10+ sieverts per hour means there is direct exposure to fuel rods: Australia’s former top radiation official
Record-high radiation detected at Fukushima, The World Today (ABC Australia), August 2, 2011:
Peter Burns, former chief executive officer of the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency
- “The levels reported of 10 sieverts per hour are very high levels and it’s going to be very difficult to manage workers going into those areas and doing operations.”
- “10 sieverts is actually a lethal dose of radiation. So you can’t afford to be exposed for more than a few minutes at those levels.”
- “It means you’re directly exposed to fuel rods in the reactors or the spent fuel ponds very closely and while it’s possible to get to those levels it means there is very little shielding going on there.”
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How about No Shielding at all. And as for 10 Sv/hr, that’s the minimum possible, truth is they don’t know how high it goes. Still love the 4 mSv exposure by the fastest human beings on the planet. Prob their film badges max out at 4 mSv….
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I have a quick question….I’m assuming that at some point this is going to hit the MSM. If it really is this bad I can’t see how it can be avoided for much longer. Any ideas as to when?
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25 years. When they publish the spin-study “Cancer rises not related to radiation”
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+1
I would lol if it weren’t so dam absurd !
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BnB is right. MSM will never cover this. We wouldn’t even know 1/10th of this except for the internet, and we probably know less that 1/10 of what we should.
This site and a few others represent sands on a beach compared to MSM and the masses. Truth is, sites like this are probably allowed to continue simply because they know how inconsequential on a mass scale this is. Useful for us who are here though, to get a better picture of the future….
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The only way the rad word will get out is through the vigilance, dedication and gathering of the People
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/nnn.html
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Hi Chemfood…
I’m there every day about this time..
News all in one spot……saves us lots of time.
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Hey Heart! All…yes, rc is a news haven to share and share and share. When the shtf, many will gather there.
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Comcast, the local cable tv company ran a show yesterday about Fukushima. It was on “Green TV” channel or some such thing. It had to have been produced back in April as they never got out of March. Made it sould like the accident wasn’t all that big a deal. Fucking idiots. Anyone that saw the show would have been left with the impression it was being handled.
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Small blurb on ticker at CNN “Highest Radiation Levels yet at Fukushima” I may not have quoted the exact phrase but it’s close . They are still rambling on about the debt ceiling. So it is getting some media attention albeit minor at this junction. Things that make ya go hmmm.
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Hi Rosie,
I’ve been asking that very bloody question since late March,…still no answer. Reason: We are ALL in UNPRECEDENTED TERRITORY! Not even Chernobyl gives us a TRUE look. The bio-accumulations are the 64,000 dollar question.
My fear is that my worst freakin’ nightmare X 10,00000000000 Sv/hr will be surpassed!
Jill
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Hi Jill, I’m a bit disappointed that the majority view is that it won’t be reported. No-one I know (friends, work colleagues) are interested and they are all totally unaware. The view is that if it’s not reported then it can’t be as bad as I’m making out which I think holds a smidgeon of truth. How on earth can something so horrendous be blacked out permanently? I wouldn’t have thought it was possible. Doesn’t make sense.
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Even putting completely aside theories about MSM over the world working to hide it, the only source of data for this is TEPCO and the government of Japan. That means an extremely small number of officials control the main flows of information to the world, and the world media and governments also are likely hampering information release.
Those officials have many powerful reasons to avoid full disclosure (financial, power-keeping, inability to evacuate such a large pop, etc etc etc) that will prevent them from ever fully exposing the situation there, and abroad.
Much like the radiation, the truth will seep out over time. Sadly, truth will seep much more slowly than the radiation….
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Have to wonder how many have been around these areas before they found the problem, The 198 men missing ??
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Like right about now. I think they just found another piece measuring 10 sieverts. LOL. That means their geigers cannot go above that. I bet ya it is wayyyyyy more than that. Who are they fooling? I also heard from a TEPCO worker present at the scene that they are sealing off parts of Daichi. Something bad must have happened. Could it be that the rain forced all some of the fuel pool to sPill ?
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one minor msm in germany is posting some updates from time to time and a green politician, Mr. Trittin urged japan to do something. http://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Strahlung-sprengt-Messskala-article3958461.html this is the message about todays 10 sievert-event.
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Anyone’s guess as to what’s going on? It sounds like its not good! Maybe coming up from cracks and holes in the ground? We need some answers soon! Is this where it all goes from extremely bad to we’re F$#@KED? or is it we’re f$%#ked anyway so who cares? My baby girls are asleep and I’m really F$#@kED OFF!! TEPCO needs to tell the world the truth!
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Googled “China Syndrome” and apparently we have it all wrong? It is only a hypothetical kind of catastrophic failure that is happening at Fukushima. It could never happen in real life as they use a containment structure that protects against those sorts of things. Soviet designed RBMKs, found only in Russia do not have containment buildings are considered unsafe by western countries. We showed them didn’t we!
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Of course the China syndrome is impossible in Japan. That payload is heading straight to Angola!
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Don’t worry, when the corium lava meets volcanic lava down there, it will be neutralized.
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Sorry for all the mistakes. Sending from my blackberry.
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P.S. It’s annoying not to be able to discuss this with anyone….hence the reason for wanting it in the MSM. I don’t know how to refute all the comments that I’m off my head.
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Me to
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Rosie,……my roommates have almost 51/50′d me,…friends have sent me snail mail letters telling me that I URGENTLY need mental therapy over this “Fukushina thing”. My family,…well, what family? I’ve lost everything BELIEVING. Know what? Good bloody ridden!
Jilly
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Same problem here. I have been told I am over reacting, being melodramatic, and of all things, NEGATIVE and I need to learn to meditate, etc.
I give up on all of them. Let them stick their heads in the sand. It isn’t only this issue, look at the financial debacle going on. We are being hit broadside from so many areas that I think most people are in a stupor !
The just do what they have been trained to do and ‘carry on’.
MSM, will always continue with snipets of semi-truth just to appease. imho
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“The fittest of the fittest will survive! stay alive!” (B.Marley).It is astonishing how this generation has been dumb down about the dangers of radiation!!This will be a thinning of the herds.
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worried sick over family & friends! But, it feels much better to know that you tried your best to inform them, provide resources, and data without bowling them over. It’s all you can do. Actually, my family is now pretty much on board. Friends have thanked me. But, it’s not on their priority list, despite having little kids…or being on the West Coast. I find my friends and family in California are the most resistant–? But, I tried, hard.
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I think most of us has a family, who don’t want to hear anything depressing.
They would rather ignore what’s going on, and go on with life as before. Maybe for them, life is stressful enough without adding more to it?
I happen to like knowing what is going on, without surprises, being able to prepare, and trying to take precautions as much as I can.
I think we should have the true official stats and information. Things should not be withheld, especially to those who want to know.
I am taking vitamins, drinking baking soda with honey, putting Iodine Tincture on, and drinking bottle water. I try not to be outside when it rains.
I doubt this is enough.
I am older and not in a panic mode (yet), but feeling sad for the young people.
I have given my family these items also, they haven’t used them. I have warned them and suggested a few things. The rest is up to them, they are adults.
You can’t beat someone over the head with a stick about this.
If you are not one of the lucky ones who can go somewhere safer, then live your life to the fullest and enjoy it.
Don’t get ulcers, driving yourself crazy about this. Instead, protect and prepare as much as you can.
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I feel good that I tried to help and opened the conversation… You’re right that there’s only so much you can do if they refuse to pay heed.
At any rate, I’m at peace for trying!
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Wise words. Thank you.
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Much resistance at first from family and friends, though some have turned around. Most do not believe it has anything to do with them in any way. I have found a few like minds. Others do not want to hear anything that is not up beat, no matter how real. Ignorance is Bliss.
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How bad does this have to get before they finally realize they will have to bury this thing in concrete?! I love the fact that they are saying “10 sieverts per hour may indicate that the fuel has melted through the containment vessel…” No shit, Sherlock. No one around me cares about this either. I don’t get why people are ignoring this…in a few years, they will all wonder why the cancer rates have skyrocketed, and they’ll blame it on something really stupid. Maybe 25 years from now, there will be SOME information published, but we will all be dead by then. People wonder why we have seen so many miscarriages/still births in this country, but they aren’t paying attention to this at all. I have already known two women who have had multiple miscarriages since this crisis began, and one who gave birth to a still born. The doctors can’t explain what happened…
This has to stop.
Sorry for the rant… I’m just so tired of TEPCO doing NOTHING.
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Burying in concrete is bad. Material needs to be captured from below, cut-up, and isolated. Remote operated vehicles will need to be built to perform operations. Special cutting methods are necessary for materials at those temperatures. They aren’t even taking suggestions from people with experience cutting exotic materials with alternative methods. Just Burying would be the cheap and incomplete solution that TEPCO would love the public to support. Until the material is separated it will continue to make decay heat and pollute water tables, air, and ocean. Also, if the individual chunks are not captured and prevented from randomly moving as the burrow done, any separate chunks may eventually migrate and combine resulting in more prompt criticalities. This needs a moon shot level determined effort to resolve not sweeping it under a rug and hoping people don’t realize how bad that it is. Japan’s new department for scrubbing nuclear news is not helping
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In 5 months, I suspect that a lot of the fuel, active or spent, has migrated until it is now unrecoverable.
Christopher Busby thinks the international nuclear industry should be the focus of the blame. How separate are the international nuclear industry and the governments of the various countries which use nuclear power? I suspect that there is very little separation. NWO or a world shadow government may already be here.
It will not, in my opinion, be survival of the fittest (a Darwinian, superman, physical, racist fiction). Those who last longest will be those most prepared, however you define preparation.
But if the tipping point of nuclear proliferation hasn’t been yet reached, it soon will be. There will be no survival of the fittest of the human species that is at the top of the food chain.
Someone please stop the nuclear madness NOW!
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“Fittest” doesn’t always mean ‘biggest and strongest” you know…..
Those with “superior survival skills” and all that entails and luck will live the longest. Lucky them.
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“Material needs to be captured from below, cut-up, and isolated. Remote operated vehicles will need to be built to perform operations. Special cutting methods are necessary for materials at those temperatures.”
TEPCO already said in 10 years they can start to do just that, provided the technology required for the job is invented by that time…..
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Inventors At The Ready! Atten-SHUN! PREE-ZENTTT-ARMS!
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Hi Ariana
From what I have heard, they can’t entomb it with cement, it’s to hot and the ground is not stable it would not hold.
This is different than Chernobyl, ground is not the same and it’s hotter.
I agree, I want this to stop also. Being new Grandparents, I don’t like what our new Grandson is breathing in.
I’m not sure they have the technology to stop this monster, yet.
I do believe that there are people trying to figure this out.
Since they have not stopped this monster, in the future, people will need medical care. This is something that everyone (rich or poor) should be able to receive.
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Thank you for explaining that to me… I have read countless books about the Chernobyl reactor, but am not a scientific mind, by any means… I know there are people who want to help, but it seems as though the Japanese government are either too proud or too stubborn to accept assistance.
What I want to know is: has the worst already happened at Daiichi, or could this get even more horrific? What could happen next?
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Ariana types: What I want to know is: has the worst already happened at Daiichi, or could this get even more horrific? What could happen next?
SP: Bad things have happened most notably the Reactor 3 blast into the jetstream in early March and the continued air and water emissions from reactors 1-4 and the common spent fuel pond.
Certainly it can get much more worse…worst case scenario everyone (workers) flee and Reactors 1-6 all blow uncontrollably. Ten miles away another Fukushima plant (Daini) could be the next one to blow from the workers fleeing the radiation from a totally out of control Daiichi.
As power fails in northern Japan then other plants domino one after another. So yes, it can get much worse…world-ending worse.
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Sick:
Correct, it is, in fact, getting much worse with each passing day that the blob have uncontrolled criticality events. One can’t control the inside of a corium mass without breaking it up and putting it in neutron inhibiting inert gas metallic cask dry storage. I suspect that without breaking those masses up that, due to increased Plutonium (radically increasing instability and the potential for future re-criticalities that make more Pu in a positive feedback loop) that more explosions are imminent at R1, R2, not sure about R3 (maybe some others could talk about this special case–where the fuel completely melted down and exploded in the R3 SPF, but I’m not sure about the reactor core, itself). I’m also not sure if nuclear explosion is imminent at R4 SPF, but if it goes completely dry and melts into a unified or large enough blob of corium, it definitely will blow or burn, which is a deep worsening of the situation. Whatever scenarios, the status quo is worsening the situation for everyone everywhere daily and far worse acute events will occur but I don’t know enough to make predictions based on mathematical models.
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This is exactly the scenario that I have considered, which is why nuclear is never safe, and why it can easily lead to an ELE, if the dominos happen to fall the right way…
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The government of Japan is a puppet government of the U.S., which is the largest single economic interest and military interest in maintaining secrecy and status quos of both nuclear weapons and nuclear power for itself. So, one of the bottom lines is that the actors within the Japanese govenrnments are yes men and cowards. The few who are defecting to tell the truth do not yet represent a critical mass. Those who are criticizing the brainwashed herd or the apparatus producing the disinformation in the Japanese or U.S. (or other) governments are being labelled as alarmist at the most charitable.
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You are right Ariana, this is horrific and I believe the longer this goes on, and I agree that it will be a deep worsening situation than it already is.
I don’t believe it will get better on it’s own, and I don’t know of anyone who has a magic wand.
I am not a professional in this, and I am also learning as this goes on.
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I found a video. Think all Japanese should watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR1wo5s3Ua4&feature=player_embedded
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Seriously, Japan, USA and all people of the planet REALLY should watch this one!!!
Then, for an opposite view watch this one:
Bill Gates LOVES Nuclear – April 10, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbbq_KdPzjE&feature=related
“Deaths per kilowatt”…. yeah right? What a joke! What an arrogant idiot!!!
I for one will never purchase another Microsoft product.
I wonder Billy’s got to say now. (?)
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Mayak
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayak
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Thanks anne, info was hidden because… “that could cause concern among people living near nuclear facilities in the USA.”
According to Gyorgy, who invoked the Freedom of Information Act to open up the relevant Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) files, the CIA knew of the 1957 Mayak accident all along, but kept it secret to prevent adverse consequences for the fledgling USA nuclear industry.
Ralph Nader surmised that the information had not been released because of the reluctance of the CIA to highlight a nuclear accident in the USSR, that could cause concern among people living near nuclear facilities in the USA.
Only in 1992, shortly after the fall of the USSR, did the Russians officially acknowledge the accident.
Kind of like our own Simi Valley California cover-up in 1959. Worst ‘known’ accident is U.S. History. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAHmaEs5cYU
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Huffington Post US has the story buried in Huff UK. They’ll probably bury it in the Green section of the US version.
Post and post and post. Everywhere you can think of. Post to local and large papers everywhere.
We’re all in this together.
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Protect your own family. Have a ready plan in case Mad Max world happens in your neck of the woods.
What is happening? They didn’t just stumble on pieces of fuel rods that fell from the March explosions. The fuel rods that are the biggest danger from 1, 2, and 3 are all melted in big chunks and
My best guess 6,000 miles away is the melt-out of corium is beginning to infiltrate the surface gound soil and soon there will be chaos at Daiichi.
Expect the cameras to be turned off at any time so get a last good look while you can…you might see the reason why they turn them off…I doubt a 30-second time delay will help them censor the beginnings of the end for Daiichi.
Peace.
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The authorities and the media are probably confident they can suppress everything except another 8.0 plus quake and tsunami washing Fuku I radioactive remains inland, a criticality event or explosion or fire, a reactor building collapse, or a rise in Fuku radioactivity requiring complete worker abandonment of the reactors.
Maybe the occurence of one of these events would break the silence and the unbelievable worldwide denial, and begin the entombment process.
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Last night Des Moines radiation was 318 beta which is over 10 times “normal” background.
Someone who posted at my blog on these high levels said she saw beta go up to 490 yesterday.
see http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/des-moines-radiation-levels-very-high.html
No cities in the region were anywhere near as high yesterday.
Fort calhoun nuclear plan is immediately due east of Des Moines. Could it be the culprit?
Radnet beta data are not available this morning.
I cannot check it today–will be away from my computer.
If anyone can please do because this is not right…
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wow–coming my way! YUM!!!!!
We will NOT be outdone by Japan. No sir.
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Majia, I was able to get on the site a liitle while ago. Here are the readings for Des Moines from the last week. Many readings well over 400 CPM.
2011-07-26 00:17:04 74
2011-07-26 01:17:17 79
2011-07-26 02:17:32 84
2011-07-26 03:17:45 93
2011-07-26 04:18:00 109
2011-07-26 05:18:13 136
2011-07-26 06:18:27 167
2011-07-26 07:18:41 191
2011-07-26 08:18:55 219
2011-07-26 09:19:09 250
2011-07-26 10:19:23 269
2011-07-26 11:19:38 281
2011-07-26 12:19:52 285
2011-07-26 13:20:06 277
2011-07-26 14:20:19 234
2011-07-26 15:20:34 199
2011-07-26 16:20:48 159
2011-07-26 17:21:01 149
2011-07-26 18:21:15 131
2011-07-26 19:21:29 122
2011-07-26 20:21:43 121
2011-07-26 21:21:57 123
2011-07-26 22:22:11 119
2011-07-26 23:22:25 114
2011-07-27 00:22:39 114
2011-07-27 01:22:53 120
2011-07-27 02:23:06 128
2011-07-27 03:23:20 136
2011-07-27 09:24:44 444
2011-07-27 10:24:57 396
2011-07-27 11:25:11 375
2011-07-27 12:25:25 382
2011-07-27 13:25:39 401
2011-07-27 14:25:53 447
2011-07-27 15:26:07 463
2011-07-28 09:30:19 479
2011-07-28 10:30:33 397
2011-07-28 12:31:01 441
2011-07-28 13:31:15 433
2011-07-28 11:30:47 417
2011-07-28 14:31:28 242
2011-07-28 15:31:42 201
2011-07-28 16:31:57 274
2011-07-28 17:32:11 305
2011-07-28 18:32:25 249
2011-07-28 19:32:39 187
2011-07-28 20:32:53 149
2011-07-28 21:33:07 143
2011-07-28 22:33:21 155
2011-07-28 23:33:35 180
2011-07-29 00:33:48 210
2011-07-29 01:34:03 225
2011-07-29 02:34:17 223
2011-07-29 03:34:31 226
2011-07-29 04:34:45 238
2011-07-29 05:35:00 243
2011-07-29 06:35:13 263
2011-07-29 07:35:27 266
2011-07-29 08:35:41 252
2011-07-29 09:35:54 301
2011-07-29 10:36:08 355
2011-07-29 11:36:23 385
2011-07-29 13:00:14 79
2011-07-29 14:00:28 193
2011-07-29 15:00:41 249
2011-07-29 16:00:55 229
2011-07-29 17:01:09 223
2011-07-29 18:01:23 215
2011-07-29 19:01:37 183
2011-07-29 20:01:51 159
2011-07-29 21:02:05 136
2011-07-29 22:02:19 108
2011-07-29 23:02:33 99
2011-07-30 00:02:47 85
2011-07-30 01:03:01 70
2011-07-30 02:03:15 67
2011-07-30 03:03:29 79
2011-07-30 04:03:43 96
2011-07-30 05:03:57 120
2011-07-30 06:04:11 148
2011-07-30 07:04:25 189
2011-07-30 08:04:40 221
2011-07-30 09:04:54 216
2011-07-30 10:05:07 216
2011-07-30 11:05:21 251
2011-07-30 12:05:35 269
2011-07-30 13:05:49 254
2011-07-30 14:06:02 237
2011-07-30 15:06:16 210
2011-07-30 16:06:30 183
2011-07-30 17:06:44 151
2011-07-30 18:06:58 123
2011-07-30 19:07:12 107
2011-07-30 20:07:27 104
2011-07-30 21:07:41 106
2011-07-30 22:07:55 101
2011-07-30 23:08:09 94
2011-07-31 00:08:23 90
2011-07-31 01:08:36 86
2011-07-31 02:08:50 93
2011-07-31 03:09:04 103
2011-07-31 04:09:18 122
2011-07-31 05:09:33 145
2011-07-31 06:09:47 170
2011-07-31 07:10:00 188
2011-07-31 08:10:15 195
2011-07-31 09:10:28 217
2011-07-31 10:10:42 264
2011-07-31 11:10:56 303
2011-07-31 12:11:10 342
2011-07-31 13:11:24 311
2011-07-31 14:11:38 262
2011-07-31 15:11:52 186
2011-07-31 16:12:06 136
2011-07-31 17:12:19 129
2011-07-31 18:12:34 120
2011-07-31 19:12:48 118
2011-07-31 20:13:02 116
2011-07-31 21:13:16 111
2011-07-31 22:13:30 105
2011-07-31 23:13:44 102
2011-08-01 00:13:59 101
2011-08-01 06:15:22 490
2011-08-01 07:15:37 467
2011-08-01 08:15:50 422
2011-08-01 09:16:04 410
2011-08-01 10:16:17 396
2011-08-01 12:54:26 97
2011-08-01 11:16:31 394
2011-08-01 13:54:40 226
2011-08-01 14:54:54 227
2011-08-01 15:55:08 203
2011-08-01 16:55:22 173
2011-08-01 17:55:36 145
2011-08-01 18:55:50 120
2011-08-01 19:56:04 101
2011-08-01 20:56:17 87
2011-08-01 21:56:32 79
2011-08-01 22:56:46 77
2011-08-01 23:57:00 76
2011-08-02 00:57:14 88
2011-08-02 01:57:28 113
2011-08-02 02:57:42 183
2011-08-02 03:57:55 318
2011-08-02 04:58:09 322
2011-08-02 05:58:23 247
2011-08-02 06:58:37 224
2011-08-02 07:58:51 165
2011-08-02 08:59:05 176
2011-08-02 09:59:18 182
2011-08-02 10:59:33 203
2011-08-02 11:59:47 202
2011-08-02 13:00:00 205
2011-08-02 14:00:16 218
2011-08-02 15:00:30 203
2011-08-02 16:00:43 416
The following quote is from http://www.radiationnetwork.com/
It definitely appears that something is going on in Des Moines. I was going to check other cities in the area but the site is down again.
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I read that anything over 100 CPM is hazardous to human health and must be reported, pronto. I would assume that “490″ as listed yesterday in Iowa is dangerous!! Red Flag! Do I have this wrong? I got that proviso on CPM levels from the independent Radiation Network site, but I understand there are variables for different measuring devices.
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No you have it right something is going on! Above 200cpm is a remove yourself from the Radiation danger area or shelter inside. Something has happened.
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What is the link to this site? I only know of radiationnetwork, which only has background radiation measurements. I am always curious about beta, don’t understand it very well, but it seems more important.
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Here is the link. I just checked and the site is still down. It’s been down most of the day.
https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/query.do
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Jon_NY actually included a link to Radiation Network under the EPA Radnet data, above! I didn’t catch that–trying to follow the economic crisis, too.:P
490 sounds crazy high!!! Not a word on the news?
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Such High Levels of Beta wave emissions would indicate the presence of short-lived Radioiodines, which would indicate a recent fissioning process, such as meltdown stage occurring now at Ft. Calhoun??!! Beta waves also come from Tritium to a lesser extent, Cobalt-14, and Cesiums… I also noticed that there is no monitoring anymore in the NE area on the Radiation Network!… :/
What I find more worrisome than a half dozen Nuclear meltdowns is the creepy, fascist lack of media coverage….
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I know the plant is still running… albeit, feebly. There must be a lot of leaking or a meltdown in the works!! That would be my conclusion. Sadly, they’ll inform pregnant women in Omaha and surrounding fine places a few months later, as with Fukushima, I guess?!! Gimme a break.
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Thanks so much Jon-NY
Something is definitely up and I am sickened that nothing is being done to protect people.
I am sick with sadness that our government will do nothing to protect its populace.
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Glad to provide some info. I find it strange that the site has been down all day. Wanted to compare to levels pre-flooding of Fort Calhoun. Hopefully it will be back up soon and hasn’t been taken down to hide something.
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It is being blocked…
Firefox says…
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Notice the HTTPS, it is a secure site, encrypted
It is up and running, blocking pings…
Maybe ask this guy why it is being blocked…
x134.67.1.164x is from United States(US) in region North America
Whois query for x134.67.1.164x…
Results returned from whois.arin.net:
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Radiation levels this high certainly means the “fleas” have flown the coop. In other words fumaroles have opened because the corium has seeped out of cracks and is now in the ground perhaps 20 meters below. Bubble-bubble…
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Me thinks you are correct. Perhaps the corium from one and two have united who knows . I would love to see an infrared photo like the one taken in March. I guess that is top secret and will not be available to the public for some time.
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i doubt the china syndrom could happen in fuku with all the water around. corium in chernobyl took strange ways using existing tubes, not a straight hellbound drill directly to the core of the earth. it moves more like hot bitumen, not like a sun like fire cutting throgh butter.
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Chernobyl was different as it was not as old as these reactors thus less heat and easier to cover up with concrete. These reactors are hot hot hot and will take awhile to cool and then there is the spent fuel pools. ahhhh what a mess.
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To reach the core of the earth, doesn’t every volcano reach the core of the earth?
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no, Anne.
Most belong to the crust, either oceanic crust or continental crust, but there are some rocks which have been brought up from deeper, from the mantle. The mantle overlays the core.
That is a simple picture. My geology is ages old and I have too much enenews to catch up on just now otherwise I would pick up a confirmatory reference for you right away.
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Unfortunately, the water is salt water ensuring that the fission will go on forever.
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Huh? Where did you get that disinformation?
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I guess you never heard of the diasater at Santa Susanna in California in 1959. I lived near there.
Sodium Reactor Experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_Reactor_Experiment
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Governments Have Been Covering Up Nuclear Meltdowns for Fifty Years to Protect the Nuclear Power Industry , Video, Santa Susana.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/governments-have-been-covering-nuclear-meltdowns-fifty-years-protect-nuclear-power-industry
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Sodium Reactor Experiment Expert Panel Videos
“To the community, the concept of a meltdown described as “250 to 450 times worse than Three Mile Island” is frightening. The “worst meltdown in the history of the United States” is language that creates fear in the local community. People question whether to move to the area – others want to move away when they hear about this event.”
http://ourla.org/city-wide/1421-chris-rowe-sodium-reactor-experiment-expert-panel-videos
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The historical videos shown below illustrate the challenges and accomplishments of the employees at the Santa Susana Field Laboratory.
• Sodium Reactor Experiment (SRE)
o SRE Construction (July 1958) Construction of the Sodium Reactror Experiment at Santa Susana
o http://www.etec.energy.gov/Reading-Room/Video/SRE_Video/SRE_Construction.html
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o Accident Recovery (November 1961) Description of the 1959 SRE core damage accident and the procedures used to remove damaged fuel and refurbish the SRE for continued operation
o http://www.etec.energy.gov/Reading-Room/Video/SRE_Video/SRE_Recovery.html
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o Decommissioning (March 1982) Description of the decommissioning and decontamination of the SRE prior to its release for unrestricted use
o http://www.etec.energy.gov/Reading-Room/Video/SRE_Video/SRE_Decommissioning.html
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Are you trying to say that salt water plus corium and a liquid sodium cooled reactor are equivalent? They aren’t. Not even close.
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Re: BREAKING:NUCLEAR EXPERTS – pumping sea water to cool Japanese nuclear reactor is an “act of desperation”
Perpetual hot spot.
Re: BREAKING:NUCLEAR EXPERTS – pumping sea water to cool Japanese nuclear reactor is an “act of desperation”
“It’s a SELF-GENERATING, Exothermic molten slag that must
expend its own Radiation before it will stop on its own.”
And how long will that take?
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1391250/pg1
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I read the whole thread and there’s nothing there about “fission going on forever”. Lots of speculation about the elements dissolved in seawater somehow magically becoming radioactive. Lots of misinformation about the actual effect of water of any type on corium. One or two rational posts about what happens.
Bottom line: Corium + seawater doesn’t equal fission.
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I quoted one statement from this blog:
“Perpetual hot spot.”
Definition of PERPETUAL
1 a : continuing forever : everlasting
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perpetual
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Corium and Prompt Criticality
http://ingodwelust.com/2011/03/corium/
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Prompt critical
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prompt_critical
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Newton may = M.H.
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https://twitter.com/#!/reiki_bunbun/status/98031009009909760
The site of the 1st Fukushima nuclear power plant. Site inside land of crack crack is resulting here and there and the knife black steam of a/the high temperature is said to be spouting from there
This is another translation.
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To the person that posted the tweet..we hear you and thank you.
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Whatever our pals at Tepco have been doing since March the radiation levels continue to rise.
Now it is too high to measure with their equipment. I call that unprecedented. Makes me want to switch my coffee for a beer this morning.
Lots of radio-active iodine in seawater around plant means fission is ongoing.
Whatever they can do they better do now and fast. If this trend continues neither man or machine will be able to approach Fukushima puddle of muck.
Radiation is invisible. Radiation is complicated and unfamiliar. And people don’t want to hear bad news that affects them personally. Makes it easy for the “spin”.
Trust your instincts and do what you can. Best case scenario your in an old folks home at 92 years old wondering if the baking soda and vitamins helped…..
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Well, I think we all have been aware of this happening sooner or later, however we wished that the PTB could come up with SOMETHING.. that’s why they make the big bux.
It seems they don’t know how to do this, and now, they can’t even get close enough to do much at all.
That recent video of the plant with the IAEA fellows walking/busing around showed so much more damage in the background, and that suprised me. We have seen people and machines milling about for months now, and the place still looks like the day after the incident happened pretty much. Debris everywhere.
For the first time I can say, I’m glad to be 65, I’m glad I never could have children, and I do know how to end things if need be without suffering.
And, unfortunately, that is the up side.
Hate to sound gloom and doom, but I don’t think at this point they have a snowball’s chance in haites of getting this thing remotely under control.
I sure hope someone can come along and show us how they can. This is the worse news to date, other than all those children getting exposed and the deaths of so many from tsunami.
    
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forgot the ; after the html spaceer code.
I have been know for years as a wonderul code dropper. my one claim to fame on the computer.
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This might be the worst news to date coming from Fukushima, but we need to look ahead.
Not even a space suit could protect you from that level of radiation. Chat and watch the Fukushima Daiichi Plant – LIVE Cam at http://www.RadioactiveChat.Blogspot.com
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Check out these images – one showing two gamma ray emanation regions.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/08/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-10-sievertshr.html
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Ummm…everyone? The MSM has it
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/08/02/lah.japan.radiation.levels.cnn?iref=allsearch
http://www.foxbusiness.com/industries/2011/08/02/tepco-detects-hotspots-at-fukushima-site-no-delay-expected-for-recovery-plan/
although of course FOX has it in business
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