Published: February 13th, 2012 at 11:22 pm ET
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Title: Result of nuclide analysis of the accumulated water on the basement of Turbine Building 3U and 4U Fukushima Daiichi NPS
Source: Tepco
Date: Feb 13, 2012
Reactor No. 3 Turbine Building
Cs-134 @ 85,000 Bq/cm3
Cs-137 @ 110,000 Bq/cm3
Total Cesium @ 195,000 Bq/cm3 or 195 million Bq/liter
Water depth in building is 3.012 meters
Read the report here
Published: February 13th, 2012 at 11:22 pm ET
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If this water were somehow evaporated, could the radioactive materials be concentrated into a solid(ish) mass that could more easily be vitrified or otherwise contained?
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Charlie I'm not sure that it can be solidified then turned into glass.
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I am wondering if a solar distiller would work, especially if it is sealed? How about combining that with clay or zeolite?
Normally, a solar distiller will purify contaminated water, but I doubt it would work for radiation contaminated water.. Any thoughts from anyone?
Anytime radioactive water 'evaporates' or steams, it takes along radioactive substances with it, into the air. Then those radioactive substances 'float' along with the wind or the jet stream, until they come down in the form of rain or snow, possibly many hundreds or thousands of miles away..
They are concentrating the radiation via decontamination methods onsite so they can re-use the water for cooling reactors and/or spent fuel pools, but this method does not remove all radioactive substances, just some of them.
How long will it be, before they run out of room to store highly radioactive water and decontaminated waste products?
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I am wondering if it is clear that no explosion is imminent from Zirconium metal explosion or other, and, that if it seems that all that what happens next is 'burning/fire/ultra hot volatilization, then wouldn't a constant supply of dry sand on top to filter the volatilized radionuclide's be the last form of attack?
Then the contaminated sand could be taken away regularly and mixed with cement on-site to immobilize the nukes for instance …As for what is under the sand, it would vitrify and the same immobilization would occur. I would expect.
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The clay Idea I like AGreen. I know that there are clays found in South Dakota that actually act as an insulator against radiation. I can't remember the name of it though and don't know how effective it's properties are.
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You can be sure that they are allowing as much of it to run into the ocean as possible, just so that they don't have to deal with it, and so that they can minimize the amount of poinson they take responisbility for.
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charlie3,
Always been a never ending river into the sea !
How many times can they fill the same storage tanks ?
They change focus on many things to change attention and lose many on details !
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SO much is about mere appearances,
this (Unmentioned / UN measured)
river of radioactive death is scary!.
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xdrfox-san, in all fairness to tepco, this situation is so messed-up to the nth degree, anyone and everyone trying to deal with this, this…thing is going to look foolish no matter what.
Fairness To Tepco Period is now over!
What's this ND BS. Does no data mean you didn't test for it tepco, or is it that the data is not in yet and when it does you are keeping it to yourself…right. I don't know, it seems to me I-131 would be something I would what to measure for…criticality-wise
What I find troubleing about this nevering river into the sea, is the according to Uncle Arnie we've created a new kind of uranium that is water soluble. oh-no
remember that cute vid about the water cycle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T05djitkEFI
super cute…heavy sigh
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There comes a point (say by the 10th month after a disaster) whereby if a public health threat is seen to be managed insufficiently by the responsible party/corporation that the Government must step in to assure safety to the citizens. Specifically I think the government now has a serious obligation to manage the facts relating to Fukushima – not Tepco.
If Tepco failed to operate and coordinate the most basic aspects of their enterprise, why the fuck would any reasonable government entrust the health of a nation and world in the hands of people who cant manage themselves properly by their own example?
Who really believes Tepco has the morality or ability to save affected people by their catastrophe? It is criminal of the Japanese Government specifically to allow this to happen without intervention of the Government on behalf of its people.
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@AGreenRoad
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr/07/world/la-fg-japan-water-20110407/2
"UC Berkeley nuclear engineering professor Edward Morse said the water needs to be diverted into a concrete-lined holding pond fairly soon, where natural evaporation can help reduce its volume."
Youichi Enokida, a specialist in nuclear chemical engineering at Nagoya University in Japan, agrees that the material should be put into some type of storage that would concentrate it through evaporation, though Japanese experts generally talk about the need for a sealed pool.
"We must concentrate the liquid," he said.
Even with a pond, it could take up to 10 years before the radioactivity would decay enough for the material to be handled, Morse said. Building a storage pond "buys you time," he said.'
"A factor that could vastly complicate the problem is the presence of tritium, or heavy water, which is produced during fission. Tritium cannot be filtered out of water, instead requiring an extremely expensive treatment process.
"If the contaminated water has relatively high tritium or tritiated water concentration, then treatment could be more complicated," said Joonhong Ahn, a nuclear waste expert at UC Berkeley." Municipal water treatment facilities and commercially available water filters cannot remove tritium from drinking water.
"At Three Mile Island it was decided to allow the tritium-contaminated water to evaporate, though that meant the tritium escaped as well."
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No worry, those water will end up in ocean. Problem solved.
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Cute the way Tepco fondly trots out their cubic centimeter usage instead of how many becquerels in a traditional unit of measure: a liter of water:
Radiation in the basement at Fukushima Daiichi:
195 BILLION BECQUERELS PER LITER OF WATER!
(Thanks Admin for your always perceptive accentuated footnotes showing measurements the average person can grasp)
Good thing for Tepco Erin Brockovich is not serving liquid refreshments at the local news conferences.
I imagine the stress of lying is going to push some of these nuclear cabal officials over the brink pretty soon.
Get ready for sickness, harikari (2012 style), and a floodgate of defections to the public viewpoint. Even the Yakuza can't scare you when you know you are dead men walking already and your family members are drive-by shooting victims via high speed gamma rays..
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hara kiri
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Thanks FGJ sensei! *;-)
I usually check my Japanese words in Google…I see now seppuku is preferable usage to harakiri. I need to brush up on the code of bushido.
SP
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Yes can somebody covert the bq measurement into seivert measurement. I know there are conversion tables I've found in a search but they don't make it any less complicated. How many milliseiverts is 195mil bqls?
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apples and oranges
becquerel is a measurement of radioactivity – think, decay rate
seiverts is a dose equivalent of exposure – think, how long you stand there
All designed to confuse!
http://online.unitconverterpro.com/unit-conversion/radiation.html
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Thanks Jebus
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THX Jebus… x2
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Maybe if they throw a bunch of fruits and vegetables at it they could get it under control. Noe seriously. Fruits like apples, oranges, almonds, red grapes, pear, plum, kiwi, sultanas, dates, vegetables, soybeans and nuts are rich sources of Boron. Chickpeas, borlotti beans, hazel nuts, currants; peanut butter, red kidney beans, tomato, lentils, olive, onion, potato wine, beer, etc., are also notable sources of Boron
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Really on a personal note, Bentonite Clay is an effective way of removing radioactive nucleotides from your body and system.
http://newparadigmdigest.com/5706/additional-radiation-protection-from-boron-bentonite-clay-and-fulvic-minerals/
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I meant to write nuclides…
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patience is the sea …
and they gave him more and more ..
like a bad dream …
more and more
and all the hot particles are in search of hosts and storage ..
The lottery of the DNA mutation is no longer on hold
cancerous ulcers are to normality ..
the dead has its catchment area
increased
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@Bleifrei
At last!! Someone who knows the word is normality, not normalcy (normalcy was a term coined by a former U.S. President=ignoramus).
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"At Three Mile Island it was decided to allow the tritium-contaminated water to evaporate, though that meant the tritium escaped as well."
Seems like the "evaporation solution" has a little problem. Out of sight, out of mind.
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