300 times more radiation released into atmosphere from burning debris than claimed by gov’t

Published: June 13th, 2012 at 9:56 am ET
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Eco-Model City Kitakyushu and Japan’s Disposal of Radioactive Tsunami Debris
The Asia-Pacific Journal, Vol 10, Issue 24, No 6
June 11, 2012
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The method of burning the debris is fraught with danger since it is being done in normal waste disposal facilities not equipped to handle radioactive materials. Both the central government and Kitakyushu’s local government have claimed that bag filters in the incinerators will capture and contain 99.9% of the radiation. However, the various makers of these bag filters refuse to give any guarantees, and concerned scientists question whether the government has even tested the filters. (Source) The authorities are apparently relying on two different strands of research to support the safety of bag filtering. The first concerns the release of micro-particulate matters with a diameter of 2.5 micrometres or smaller. Since filters were able to contain such fine substance particles it is now assumed that they will also be sufficient to contain radiation emissions. Secondly, research conducted in 2009 by a local government in Japan found that bag filters can handle naturally occurring non-radioactive cesium 133. These findings were apparently extrapolated to suggest that the filters can also handle radioactive cesium 134 and cesium 137. (Source) However, the science regarding this is far from conclusive. For instance, in May 2012 Shimada city in Shizuoka prefecture also began incinerating tsunami debris, and initial reports suggest that some 32.6% of the radiation contained therein was released into the atmosphere. (Source)

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33 comments to 300 times more radiation released into atmosphere from burning debris than claimed by gov’t

  • CaptD CaptD

    AGAIN, the Japanese Government is caught lying about radiation released…

    To the Japanese People, I say,
    "Trust your own Geiger Counters N☢T what the Government says…"

    What a Nuclear Waste!


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  • Sharp2197 Sharp2197

    First the burning debris, with a mixture of wood, fiberglass, plastics, metals, polyethelenes, causes a witches brew of toxic chemicals. Then add radioative particles to the mix, I don't care what kind of filter they are using. This is spewing a cancerous cloud into the atmosphere.


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  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    Dr. Chris Busby; Consequences of Burning Radioactive Waste In Japan; via A Green Road Blog
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/dr-chris-busby-consequences-of-burning.html

    As Dr. Busby says, if radiation is spread all over Japan, and everyone is dying from it equally, all over, it is hard to sue for damages, because that establishes a new 'baseline'.

    No one can prove that Fukushima caused their cancer, so no one can win a lawsuit.

    Wow, what a solution Dr. Stranglehold

    Contaminate all of JAPAN, and RADIATE EVERYONE!

    Then refuse to do internal radiation tests at hospitals, clinics, etc.

    Then blame all radiation caused problems on stress, lack of smiling and mental problems….

    Yup, time to pull out the prescription pad and make some more money…

    Wow, this is a GREAT MONEY MAKING GAME..

    Wish we had thought of it earlier.. Everyone will be coming to get some more happy pills. We are going to be RICH!


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  • CaMom

    NASA can track smoke from Siberian wildfires all the way to the US. Why not give us alerts when the particulates are from Japan?

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/12/siberian-smoke-tracked-to-north-america/


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    It's all our air ..everyone's in the world. So, where are the other countries? ..namely the U.S. (who developed and built the technology that created this radiation spewing mess in the first place). And from the beginning, Gundersen clearly (as usual) warned the world about this burning. Obama needs to step in (is he just a puppet?) and demand that the U.S. helps. Lots and lots of help is obviously needed here.


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    • Sharp2197 Sharp2197

      Yes, he is just a puppet. Controlled by corporations.


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    • nohobear nohobear

      "or is he just a puppet?"- I assume that's a rhetorical question. Your post bigpicture ties in with Camom before it. They know. They've known since 3/11. I'm sure the presdunce (I call him dunce because he still is a big booster of commercial nuclear energy) receives a daily update from Nasa with detailed satellite imagery. You can bet all the higher ups are undergoing radiation protocols, their food is scrupulously checked, and the bug out shelters are ready and standing by. This is all about preventing panic and economic collapse if the full truth were told to the citizens of the world. If you knew you had inhaled plutonium and there was a 90% probability you'd be dead in 3 years, would you care about paying your credit cards or funding your 401K?

      Someone said it very well on an earlier post. The regulars at enenews have been following Fukushima closely since day 1. Over time we've put the pieces of half truths, lies, omissions, together with what our common sense and instinct tells us. We may not be all nuclear physicists and engineers, but we are way better informed than the average citizen. On bad days, our minds come up with the answer "extinction level event". Then we retreat from the magnitude of the horror, and regain enough sanity to think, ok, how can I and my family survive what is coming.

      As sure as the sun rises, history repeats itself. If the Black Plague of the Middle Ages could take out 1/3 or Europe, Fukushima could well take out 1/3 of…


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      • Seitsukie

        noho, would you mind elaborating on your remark about inhaling the plutonium yielding a good chance of being dead in 3 years?


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        • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

          How Dangerous Is 400-600 Pounds Of Plutonium Nano Particle Dust Liberated By Fukushima? Via A Green Road Blog http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/how-dangerous-is-400-600-pounds-of.html


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          • Seitsukie

            So, for those of us living in Tokyo… we're in a bad way, eh?


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            • What-About-The-Kids

              Seitsukie, welcome to Enenews. We welcome your participation here!

              I believe most enenewsers who have been following the events since 3/11 believe that people living in Eastern Japan, including Tokyo and south of Tokyo, should evacuate if they can.

              Radiation and its effects on living things is very serious. While no one can predict just who will fall ill from being exposed to it, or when they may become ill from radiation exposure, (whether in a one time high exposure, or lower level, long term exposures), it is a chance we all take by living in contaminated areas in Japan, or in areas affected by the Jet Stream. (The Jet Stream contains radiation because Fuku blew much of its radiation sky high into our atmosphere. As such, that radiation will continue to be transported and rained out via the Jet Stream in ways no one can predict with 100% accuracy.)

              The best way to try and stay healthy is to move out of harm's way, if possible. For those who are not able to move, there is a Radiation Mitigation forum on this website which discusses way to try and lessen exposure and mitigate whatever contamination one is exposed to as much as possible.

              I wish you and your loved ones all the best in finding the best way for you to find safety and continue in good health.

              My heart goes out to all the people of Japan whose lives have been effected by this tragedy.

              Peace and love from America.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Good info. at YouTube on micronized Zeolite. Probably not a bad idea for everyone to be using it in whatever personal applications we can. It has wonderful detox properties for all kinds of chemical nasties. Was very concerned about the smoke from the huge chemical fire in Japan (April?) probably not DU, but it burned for days and was probably very toxic.

      Between what's wafting along on the jet stream from Asian manufacturing, other Northern Hemisphere sources, Europe (radiation), and Japan (Fukushima and burning radioactive debris) I think we're all breathing and ingesting toxic stew. Oh, and let's not forget the DU which doesn't limit itself to whatever battlefield it's used on in the middle east or Eastern Europe.

      Sigh ….


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  • help from gov't? monitor radiated smoke from NASA?
    we eat GMO food EVERY DAY, radiated tuna is stacked to the roof in every grocery store, UN study said Chernobyl after effects were minimal, NPP contaminated water & gases are released on a regular basis in N.A., regulations allow it, THE ONLY HELP ANYONE WILL GET IS TO HELP YOURSELF. The fantasy of gov't protecting its people has NEVER been real. EDUCATE YOURSELF AND YOUR LOVED ONES OR SUFFER AND DIE.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Like "eat lies and die." Yes, the chemical assault comes from everywhere.

      Here's the problem I have with nuclear weapons and the whole "atoms for peace" propoganda movement.

      There has always been pillaging and raping of civilian populations during wartime. Civilians (men, women, and helpless children) have always suffered the effects of war.

      Once the bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and governments went ahead and developed nuclear weapons, it gave tacit approval to the killing of massive numbers of innocent civilians as a means of winning war.

      I had to think about this yesterday, and I realized humanity had crossed a dangerous threshold into morally malignant territory.

      The fact we have allowed nuclear weapons programs to be developed and become entrenched has made all of us "collateral damage" whenever a war is waged; no matter what its size or location.

      Bottom line: EVERYONE is epxendable when those who profit from war make the decision to have a war. Our deaths and suffering are just "collateral damage."

      So, you see, we slipped down the slippery slope into moral malignancy about 60 years ago. I don't know what others think, but I think this is of monumental importance (that we recognize just what nuclear war symbolizes; giving a nod to annhiliate massive numbers of people for profit or to "win" wars).

      It certainly puts the so called value of human life on a different footing.

      Deep philosophical and moral implications;…


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Deep philosophical and moral implications here; more at Forum if I comment further.

        IMHO, we all need to contemplate what it means to legitimize the killing of massive numbers of civilians (which is what nuclear technology ultimately represents). We need to understand this amoral philosophy underpins everything associated with nuclear technology and nuclear weaponry.

        It is Moral malignancy.


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        • dharmasyd dharmasyd

          HoTaters—Our nuclear age, the splitting of the atom, is the trigger for the evolution of consciousness, a consciousness with a higher level of morality, of ethics. This is the mandate of evolution in our age. Will homo-(not so)-Sapens make this adaptation? That is the question. But Ma Nature is certainly giving us a lot of signals that we must — or else. More on Forum if the discussion continues.


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          • eatliesndie eatliesndie

            and maybe that higher conciousness is the only thing way we will be able to survive in the physical. A higher vibration is needed to survive the effects of continued radiation exposure. The selection criteria is set. Being loving, happy and well adjusted, with no baggage. Enlightenment I think its called. Its the next step in human evolution that the new agers have been looking for, but there's no faking it.


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        • What-About-The-Kids

          +a thousand times!

          Agreed, HoTaters. For those who can see the Bigger Picture, that is exactly what it is. A moral malignancy. Well said.


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      • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

        Good point… worth contemplating


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      • Jebus Jebus

        So, nuclear not only generates cancer in your body, it can generate a cancer to your soul…


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        • Jebus Jebus

          And taking this further at the risk of censure,
          nuclear is the anti……, fervently followed by most, that we were warned not to follow and those three identical numbers, the mark of the beast, possibly were misinterpreted. sicksicksick is the mark of the beast…
          Sick in mind, Sick in body, Sick in spirit…

          I apologize, But I can't help in seeing this as pure evil.

          Nuclear, a cancer upon all life…


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          • richard richard

            censure alert, numbers, flumbers.

            yes, nukes are pure evil.

            no need for any ambiguous fairytale to recognise it.

            (well, unless you've been blinkered by brainwashing maybe).


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            • Jebus Jebus

              Lol, Richard, I knew it would be you…

              (well, unless you've been blinkered by brainwashing maybe).

              That can be a two way street…

              And one mans fairytale can be another mans mantra.

              I'm not a believer of predetermined or the "R" word,
              but I do believe…

              You can stand on the edge without jumping…It's ok…


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              • richard richard

                @jebus :)

                yeah, sorry, i've had a rough morning and just felt like biting :)

                But in hindsight, there is nothing discriminatory about what you said, so I should keep my head down ;)

                bad morning.. sorry.

                thanks for taking it in humour.


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                • Jebus Jebus

                  @richard, all good.
                  It brings me to tell this tale about the something inside me that keeps me here…
                  I have been searching inside to reason why I am constantly coming back here. Like others have stated, thoughts of just blending back into the mass of unaware, getting back to what once was. I have many hobbies that suffer from time spent here and I can't figure it out. I was ready to take a break from this.
                  Yesterday I wanted very badly to have some fish, a nice fish and chips to eat. So miss that. Been a year now. I settled on the deli at the local market, choosing oriential with sesame chicken, noodles, brocoli beef and an eggroll. The girl at the counter was very confused getting it wrong on multiple occasions. It was very curious. At the checkout in the deli she finally asked me if I wanted a potsticker and I said, you mean a fortune cookie, don't you. She said yes. I debated for a moment, telling her, they look just like pot stickers. Then I said, sure I'll have one, not thinking much of it. Came home, and devoured the food, all the while wondering if I should break away from this. I kept going back to my responsibility as a grandfather. But I wanted things as they were. I looked at that fortune cookie sitting there, curious to see what it could possibly say. I opened it and munched it down, peeling open the note inside. This is what it said, exactly as presented…

                  :) Depart not from the path which fate has you assigned :)

                  It is taped to my monitor now…


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                  • richard richard

                    @jebus – I was going to write a bigger reply, but in simple terms, I hear you on the distraction of fuku, same drama here.

                    And thanks for cutting me some grace, I was snappy and I'd like to not be.

                    Be well.


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                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Yes, I'm learning and growing because of this awakening and I like to think now, that even with all of ENENewsers multifaceted, multicultural, diverse and unique paths to this awareness, we are all brothers and sisters and we speak with one voice…

                      May it be loud and clear…

                      peace


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  • Eric

    it is moral malignancy. It is wetiko. look it up. And HoTaters is correct about the deep philosophical and moral implications. http://www.awakeninthedream.com/wordpress/


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  • Geiger Counter Interpretation Simplified
    This pretty much kicks some serious butt, this little chart that I made. Chart in Japanese is at the Bottom

    A super condensed table on how to interpret Geiger Readings

    And seriously, if you take this radiation stuff at all seriously, then get a Geiger. All the rest is guesswork.

    Radiation Alert Inspector, $530 to $600 Amazon

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2012/04/geiger-counter-interpretation.html


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