Doctors: 3,000+ microsieverts of internal radiation for residents in town 40 km from Fukushima plant

Published: June 24th, 2011 at 9:29 am ET


High level of radiation exposure estimated, NHK, June 24, 2011:

A group of doctors has found that the estimated level of accumulated internal radiation exposure for people living in Fukushima Prefecture has exceeded 3 millisieverts.

The researchers, including doctors who have provided medical care to A-bomb survivors, conducted analysis on the food and urine of 15 residents in Iitate Village and Kawamata Town in Fukushima Prefecture. These areas are about 40 kilometers from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

They estimate that residents have been internally exposed to up to 3.2 millisieverts for about 2 months, measuring from the date of the accident in March until early May. […]

Published: June 24th, 2011 at 9:29 am ET


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117 comments to Doctors: 3,000+ microsieverts of internal radiation for residents in town 40 km from Fukushima plant

    • jump-ball jump-ball

      And the u.s. coast guard’s history of toxic dumping of used batteries into American rivers and lakes:

      It’s a government thing…

    • Just thought I’d add a new level of doom to the day:

      v On June 21, 2011 at 1:22 universal time,
      Sunspot group NOAA AR11236 Released a C7.7 X-ray solar flare.
      A Halo Coronal Mass Ejection associated with that flare and a filament eruption just above the active region was observed in the SOHO C2 coronagraph field-of-view at 03:16 universal time.

      It had a measured speed of 640 km/s. The NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Space Weather Lab has predicted the CME will impact the Earth around 7 UT on June 24th plus or minus 7 hours.

      It is expected to produce a minor geomagnetic storm with aurora visible at high latitudes. This video shows the filament eruption and solar flare visible with the SDO AIA instrument. Also, the CME observations from SOHO C2 and C3 along with the space weather prediction are shown.

      Halo CME from June 21, 2011 Heading for Earth

      ~ Animation ~ (earth is yellow).

      I have a feel these CME’s (Coronal mass ejections) cause earthquakes, as well as volcanic activity. by speeding and slowing the oceanic beltway, Creating seismic activity stirring the plates on earth. Aside from creating the spectacular aurora’s that they do.

      This is a Aurora live in china taken (today china).

      On march 10th @ 6:30 pm “UT”, A coronal Mass ejection, that was a released brushed earth. It was Unlike the CME arriving today, which is a direct hit.

      The following day in Japan the 9.0 and tsunami occurred.
      I feel this was a direct implication of the solar flare from march 10th…

      My point:
      I am in no way implying that this is a huge Threat; However,

      “I feel that the coronal mass ejection hitting earth today could potentially create a 6.0 – 8.0” Magnitude Earthquake within the next 1 -3 Days.

      I hope that mainstream scientific communities take this seriously; and the proper authorities have been alerted to this.

      I expect the incoming CME To effect the fault line off the Eastern coast of Honshu. (via pacific plate).

      The only explanation I could give you is:
      I speculate that CME’s that are earth bound, effect a collaboration of the speeds being altered in the oceanic conveyor beltway, and earths magma flow. The sudden drop or rise of deep oceanic currents and magma, hold pressure inside the earth, that creates energy.

      That energy then is released through tectonic shifts, as a sort of venting…

      The current solar storm could be the reason there has been such a dramatic increase in seismic activity globally. Japan alone has had thousands of “aftershocks” this year…
      (6.0 aftershocks?)…

      Japanese Tectonic Plates:

      Oceanic Conveyer Belt:

      I would keep your ear to the ground and your eyes on the cams, Just in case this CME gives us a little trouble…

      On the brighter side:
      There should be auroras out tonight. So feel free to check out the beauty of nature:
      (visible at high latitudes).


      • Another Asteroid To Give Earth a Close Shave June 27, 2011
        June 23, 2011
        A newly discovered house-sized asteroid will miss the Earth by less than 17,700 km (11,000 miles) on Monday June 27, 2011. That’s about 23 times closer than the Moon. The size and location of the asteroid, named 2011 MD, should allow observers in certain locations to take a look at the space rock, even with small telescopes. It’s closest approach will be at 13:26 UTC on June 27.
        asteroid 2011 MD is estimated to be between 9 to 45 meters (10 to 50 yards) wide. Dr. Emily Baldwin, of Astronomy Now magazine, said there is no danger of the asteroid hitting Earth, and even if it did enter the atmosphere, an asteroid this size would “mostly burn up in a brilliant fireball, possibly scattering a few meteorites.”

      • ali-ali-al-qomfri ali-ali-al-qomfri

        Hi Tacomagroove,
        I have been on your side of the doomishness/catastrophy-ishness from the onset. Healthy debate requires deep and heavy thought and no fear of casting ideas to capture understanding and seek potential solutions. The usa is stuck on a left/right paradigm, only two choices – not true.
        I support your premise here, as I follow the Earth Expansion Theory, ie. earth is a balloon (obviously way more to it than that) but also see Vortex Based Math. Rodin’s coil = earth.

        Keep thinking out loud, keep talking.

        • Rica E

          The expando planet theory blows any others out of the primordial waters of understanding. Explains extinction of dinosaurs and other megalithic beasts of yore. Go to halfpast human, cliff high of the webbot projects site, click on interview entitled doom aint what it used to be. Also listen to cliffs interviews his ‘reports’ created by randomly scanning internet chit chat reveals future events. the report before last year said oil volcano, ill winds, diaspora………chilling

      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Hello Emmy,

        Your work is very well researched and it is great to see folks like yourself doing such a grand job of an informed info-warrior. The mass mind has come a long ways up the trail of awakening. Bless.

        This is not GLP and you should be warned that they place things on your computer to steal your information. They practice the art of track and trace for evil gains. That is why they game play ‘spider’ weirdly the sensationalism they do so well. It’s to attract YOU, the interested seeker of truth like a moth to light and then sucks it dry of your info life-force. All this using some sort of twisted “doom” psychology that only the tavistock pointed heads find useful and all that horse excrement my dear…is nothing compared to the big picture that you have so well zeroed in on here. More kudos and support from an ancient soul that has been doing and creating in the info-wars since the early inceptions.

        Stay on target…stay on target…stay on target….

        And it may be said some day….the band just played on as it did in the days of nazi germany just before WW II and the sudden realization of here we are again…about to get our arses kicked like they did. Add now the environmental soup of toxicity to the chaos. Will that be little radiation with your lime in the coconut?

        The really ingenious crazy part of it all? The American people are paying for their own demise in the coming world war.

        Hey, bless you all and thank you muchly for all your contributions to this forum of truth and honest light.

        For what it’s worth:

        Peace be with you.

      • westcoastgirl westcoastgirl

        I have to say I agree with tacomagroove, not in the sense that she has everything right (how would I know anyway, I am not a physicist or scientist), but that she has a sense, as a lot of us do, that the world is in a very shaky, vulnerable place right now, and it wouldn’t take much for something to happen to cause a major collapse.

        Something like a large solar flare may have caused a few problems many years ago, but now with the world relying so heavily on technology, it could cause huge power outages covering large areas for indefinite amounts of time…imagine what that would do to nuclear power plants all over the country/world?

        The weather changes are already causing huge damage across the country; i hadn’t even considered how that would affect nuclear plants, but obviously it can.

        We have all heard about how infrastructure all over the country is old and badly in need of repair…we are obviously unprepared for things that could happen, just as fukushima was.

        And now there are more people on the planet than ever before, so any disaxter will likely affect many more people than in the past. Tacomagroove’s example of the difficulty of evacuating Japan is a good example.

        Many societies in the past have been wiped out; it can happen again.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Japan’s toxic trials
    “Their Faustian explanation: to avoid releasing water of even higher levels of radiation into the ocean, we must first dump water with lower radioactivity.”
    “The sad truth that has emerged in my research of the role of cesium-137 in Chernobyl, however, is the fact that daily industrial toxins play a far greater role than radiation in the contamination of nonhuman and human bodies and environments.”
    “Usually people visualise the food chain with a generic man at the top, but Sandra Steingraber illustrates in her book Having Faith: an Ecologist’s Journey to Motherhood that it is not a ‘man’ but a fetus that is the final resting place for Earth’s toxins. The placenta magnifies the level of toxins admitted to the fetus.”
    “Other common food sources that raise concerns about toxins in the food supply are fish and seaweed, which can concentrate radioactive elements as they grow, leading to levels that are higher than in the surrounding water. Toxic substances can concentrate in higher levels in water than on land because food chains tend to be longer there.”
    “On average, breastfed infants in industrialised countries ingest each day 50 times more PCBs per pound of body weight than do their parents.”
    “Japan’s government also insists that it is not in immediate violation of international law by discharging radioactive water into the sea either under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, designed to protect and preserve marine life, and the Convention of Early Notification of a Nuclear Accident.”

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      These quotations are just excerpts from this longer article which contains more explanations.

        • That’s a very telling article. The opening sentence says enough to me:

          “The IAEA chief declared a nuclear safety conference a success Friday even though member nations still refused to give his agency any enforcement powers over new safety measures.”

          So, they have said it.

          Failure = Success.

          Indeed this is the world predicted so accurately by George Orwell all those years ago.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        This was back in April. Is anyone testing the radioactivity of the ocean for levels now?
        Japan Finds Toxic Fish, As Ocean Radiation Soars To 7.5 Million Times Legal Limit

      • CaliMom

        Wow. Everyday I am more and more dismayed over how things are unraveling all around us. The people we thought were there to protect our safety and interests are complete failures at both. Its really starting to feel that we’re on our own.

        • Whoopie Whoopie

          Me too Calimom…me too. And we haven’t seen the worst of it yet. I’m not sure what’s going on, but our Gov is hiding major info from us, from Japan to the local plants. Oh hell, much much more than that. But you catch my drift.

          • CaliMom

            And, I still find that so many of my neighbors are STILL completely unaware of Japan’s situation, much less our own calamity of water overload on the Missouri. Seriously, what will happen if something dramatic happens to catch everyone’s attention? Like Reactor 4 suddenly exploding, or the like. That’s when everyone will panic. It could get very ugly.

            Never in my life have I ever considered buying a gun. But my son, who’s in the Army, keeps telling me to get one. I don’t want to be that person, but my Momma Bear side is going into protect mode.

          • Cougar Annie Lives!


            A sprinkling of mirth never hurts, and works like a hazmat suit.

          • Plants are Showing Us There Is Something in The Rain. (Pictures)
            Monday, October 11, 2010

            It’s Snowing Oil in Seattle and… It Gets Stranger ! *VIDEO*
            Sunday, January 23, 2011

            Stay out of the rain folk’s now more then ever !

        • They’ve most definitely abandoned us.

          They are deliberately endangering the lives of millions—especially newborns and pregnant mothers-to-be.

          This is irresponsible and unacceptable, not to mention murderous.

          I would guess Arnie, Busby and others know about this, but managed to get into the fray quicker than the big boys. Luckily we got their message early without too much interference.

          Perhaps the big story is we’re all dead already—in two ways. We’re in a death state (i.e. a Bardo, as per The Tibetan Book of the Dead).

          And, through hot particles and bio-accumulation we have no chance.

          • A friend emailed me this morning from Ca. Told me a Friend had gave birth to a still born child, un unconsolable in grief !

            : (

        • CaliMom

          Cougar Annie is my new favorite person! I love stories like this. 🙂 Thanks!

      • I have read an article re results of sci research into synergistic effects of radiation and chemicals in our body and outside. And under favourable conditions acid rain will be an order of magnitude more if radionuclides were present where fossil fuels are burnt(Flyash is a radon source). I will google search and let you know.

  • nomade

    3,000 microsieverts sounds a lot worse than 3 millisieverts doesn’t it.

    I posted this news item too … hours ago.

    • RemainIndoors

      Maybe you should start your own blog, knowitall.

    • CaliMom

      I agree. The exaggerated details are meant to shock. But, ironically the less exaggerated truth in all the articles here, is the most shocking news I’ve ever read. Look at it this way…if people are drawn to this site because of a ‘shock’ title, and end up becoming more aware of the severity of this crisis, then so be it. Whatever it takes, I say. No one seems to be paying attention otherwise.

      • CaliMom

        My comment was directed to you, nomad. 🙂

      • Whoopie Whoopie

        Good point Mom. I’ve come to like Enenews for INFO and also it’s members. I’m one who always wears my heart on my sleeve, whereby I tend to get excited. I’m trying to curb that because it does NO GOOD whatsoever. The news coming from Japan is shocking itself. TY

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    The BP Corexit Japanese Connection – Why Toxic Solvents Were Used & Covered Up

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Oceans awash in toxic seas of plastic
    “Both PCBs and DDE have been proven to disrupt the endocrine system, the extremely sensitive set of glands and hormones that regulate functions such as insulin production, metabolism and sexual development. And now, they’re showing up in plastic garbage that acts as a magnet to leach them out of the marine soup.”
    “’Chemicals like PCBs and DDE are very hydrophobic,’ explains Takada. ‘That means they have a very high affinity for oily materials. Basically, plastics are solid oil. Therefore, plastic pellets accumulate hydrophobic pollutants with a concentration factor that’s almost 1 million times (compared to the overall concentration of the chemicals in seawater).’”

  • has readings for Virginia. (Have invited him–and a few others–over from YouTube):

    “The most I have gotten was twice background. I am sure there is radioactive material in the water, but nothing that high. My channel has many videos of my taking tests before, during, and after rain. Also, my website has 2.5 months of minute by minute data too. Anti-proton. Dot c o m”

    • alasanon

      Thanks–I’ve also been watching VA state govt. readings–very lacking in timely updates! Thomas Jefferson & Patrick Henry would NOT be proud! Give me Liberty (with frequent readings) or give me Death!!!

      Anti-proton hasn’t detected too much. I’m curious as to whether this science-minded gentleman may be living near the VA mansions of Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, etc. & their safety bunkers??!…always curious! 😛

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Toxic Cloud Wraps Around Japan
    The latest Forecast from ZAMG is not looking pleasant. The map shows the Toxic Cloud of Death wrapping around the base of Japan, blanketing the whole country then moving over South Korea and back up over the north of Japan. With the radionuclides being dispersed from the “fizzle” explosions at the Fukushima complex including Pu-239, U-235, Cesium-167 and Iodine-131 this is a complete catastrophe of unprecedented scale and risk to human life unfolding as we watch.
    The Toxic clouds pumping out of the facility are caused by low grade “conventional” explosions in the order of 2000 pounds of TNT. They are happening constantly like a mouth full of fizzer. As the molten cores descend into the mantle they vaporise and incinerate anything in their path turning them into highly toxic gases and particulates. The Toxic cloud is then emitted through the chimney’s that have been created by the process of descent. This Toxic plume is then dispersed in the surrounding area, water table, Ocean and Atmosphere. The ocean currents and the wind patterns of the Northern Pacific disperse the cloud plume across the globe.
    We are seeing a disaster on an unprecedented scale. The loss of life in Japan and now Korea too is going to be severe beyond anything we have ever witnessed before.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    June 24th
    Anne Landman/Co­mmonDreams­: What Happened to Media Coverage of Fukushima

    • Whoopie – Thanks much for the relevant links you post. It is strange, but there is consistently something up with these links and they often don’t work. Not sure why, but they usually have extra dashes throughout that make the URL inaccurate. For instance, the one you have posted here tries to load this page:


      There are three extra dashes in there (the last part “24-0” is correct). Something seems to be up with the copy/paste method you are using? In any case, here’s the correct URL:

      “What Happened to Media Coverage of Fukushima?”

  • Is it possible to color white steam a black color?

    Well, I wonder if that is what is happening now:

    Steam still coming out, but a darker color. (Check pixelation around #4).

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    “Synergy is an important issue that is mostly disregarded by the FDA. Many will even debunk the idea that low dose synergy is real. In combination with other commonly used products, the toxicity of the migratory chemicals from plastics can be potentiated by synergy. A synergy can occur between two or more chemicals that elevate the combination’s toxicity to hundreds of times greater than that of the individual chemicals. Besides plastics, other household chemicals can be part of a synergy with plastics.

    “Nuclear radiation can also severely damage the endocrine system. According to Dr. Ernest Sternglass, Professor Emeritus of Radiological Physics at the University of Pittsburgh Medical School, the synergy between nuclear radiation and chemical toxicants is well documented.”

    • Thanks for the mayan article on plastics etc. There is true knowledge, learn thou it is this: To see one changeless life in all the lives, in the separate, the One Inseparable.
      There is imperfect knowledge:
      To see the separate existences apart and seeing them apart to hold that thats the truth(The basis of the modern as opposed to the normal). See

  • From food creatures become;
    From rain is the production of food;
    Rain comes from return;
    Return from action;
    Action from the all embracing integrality;The all embracing integrality comes
    From the One Unknowable;
    Those who disregard this wheel of health
    Are living for themselves
    And will be destroyed.
    The Gita Time less Authorless

    • Au Au

      For those who only want scientific facts skip this post.

      For those who are so inclined, for those who realize that all things are connected:

      Mother Earth you are my life support system
      As a human I must drink your blue water
      Live inside your red clay
      And eat your green skin
      Help me to balance myself
      As you hold in balance the earth, the sea, the space environments
      Help me to open my heart
      Knowing that the universe will feed me
      I pray my feet will always kiss your face
      And my footsteps match your heart beat
      Carry my body through space and time
      You are my connection to the universe
      And all that comes after
      I am yours
      You are mine
      I salute you.

      From “Men Who Stare At Goats.” I changed a couple of words.

      Has anyone read Strieber’s “The Master of The Key a True Encounter”?
      Interesting book. A couple of things, that the very intelligent “visitor” had to say:
      Secrecy is killing the earth (and therefore us)
      and that “Entropy is the natural tendency of all things to disintegrate. Evil is the addition of intention to that process.”
      And that time is short but if we collectively try to change things there is hope. “Between now and then (the end), mass prayer can be used to change the world. It isn’t necessary to pray the same words or to the same god. But only to raise your voices.” Action and compassion are needed. And about consumption: “After the suffering you are about to endure, mankind will never again lust after material wealth. You are about to suffocate in your own garbage.” Facts are not always the truth. When one dies or starves-we all die and starve. We are all responsible for each other.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    “ In following the science it is essential that EPA fund a series of interactive studies to determine the additive or synergistic effects of radiation and chemicals. Risk assessment of single chemicals is a fraudulent process designed to delay and obfuscate the risks.”$File/Public+Comments+submitted+by+Lynn+Howard+Ehrle,+Chair,+International+Science+Oversight+Board-3-4-11.pdf

  • Toadmac

    I’m sure you are well aware of the situation at the plant? everything is just fine cos TEPCO and the japanese government say so! If we can’t believe them who can we believe? Everyone on this site believes what there Governments say because they have told nothing but the facts right from the start! Hope they turn them back on and get power back up and running soon. Japan should build heaps more nuclear plants because nothing can ever go wrong, even when they have sudden criticality causing nuclear explosions of Mixed oxide fuel (MOX fuel) reprocessed plutonium and uranium are really good for your health.
    plutonium-244, whose half-life of about 80 million years is just long enough to teach our kids about the health effects of plutonium. Reactor 3 had about.. oh maybe a few hundred tons plus some. No health effects there as the reactor looks fine to me. Anyone else have an opinion?

  • nomade

    Most of the posters on here have been round for a while and know how bad the situation is. Do we need to be encouraged to panic

    @ Remainindoors. I’m not a knowitall… I only recently woke up when I noticed a teeny snippet of buried news on google news by accident saying 3 complete meltdowns had occurred. I spend most of my time very far away from civilzation, media and the internet. Think squat toilets and no running water or electricity and people surviving on $1 a day. I think about those people a lot when I read enenews. They probably don’t even know there’s been a tsunami in Japan yet they rely on fish that will be highly contaminated from Fukushima. Fish is their only source of protein. I’ve seen children die of malaria because their parents can’t even afford $5 to get them to hospital. Looking at the currents, it looks like the radiation will head straight the more remote parts of to Indonesia where these people live.
    What is going to happen to these people? Nobody gives a shit… they don’t matter. Only rich people matter.

    I prefer to base my beliefs on facts (well what few facts we can get) and using my own brain to draw conclusions rather than being hold how to react.

    I’m pretty pessimistic BTW. All the signs are pointing to Tepco fucking off and leaving nature to clean things up for free.

    I am truly shocked by the way American friends I’ve talked to about this have reacted by saying OMG I need to readjust my stock market investments. Even a doctor had this kind of reaction….me me me.

    When Chernobyl happened I was in Syria…people were profiting from the situation by importing food that was destined for destruction. I only found out because a guy working in the UN with a geiger counter told me that food in market was off the scale. (He got fired for whistle blowing and telling the expat comunity about it.)
    Me and my children unwittingly ate that food and are now paying a very high price in terms of cancer

    Unless people stop seeing everything in terms of money there is no hope

    So fuck off and ban me.

    • Whoopie Whoopie

      I hope you stay. Sounds like you’ve been through the SHIT big time. I’m new here and like you all. Doubt if they’ll ban you, your voice is a voice of EXPERIENCE.

    • This will be many times worse to Islanders then the below contamination:

      What About Radiation on Bikini Atoll?
      6 Jun 2001 … Reports on the conclusions of a 1998 report by the International Atomic Energy Agency, advising that it is safe to visit the island, …

      Bikini Atoll – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      Bikini Atoll, with Bikini Island boxed in the northeast. …. The dose received from background radiation on the island was found to be between 2.4 mSv/year …

      Conditions at Bikini Atoll
      6 Nov 2010 … Report of the Radiological Conditions at Bikini Atoll and the Prospects of Resettlement. … Radiation Transport & Waste …

    • What have they done ?

      Been reported deaths of Islanders from eating tainted fish on islands they were totally unaware of near by efforts of chemicals to sink oil !

      Australia: Corexit EC9500 and Corexit EC9527A Used, Activists Claim 8 Deaths, Fish Kills Linked to the Dispersant’s !
      Wednesday, November 03, 2010

      Japan Mercury was linked above, and India has has many problems with otther 3rd world country’s !
      Ant the radiation will be the end of these populations in time !

    • nomade

      Stick around.

      Also, feel free to discuss your medical situation.

      Will help to make all this REAL to those still in fairyland.


    • Japanese ocean radiation 7,500,000 times legal limit
      Tuesday, April 5th, 2011
      According to the LA Times, though the accompanying picture is somewhat misleading: that fish is not dead from radiation exposure, it’s dead because it’s at a freaking fish market. That’s actually a sign of recovery. Go figure.
      My question is, what does 7.5 million times legal limits actually mean?

      Gundersen news *VIDEO*
      Tepco admitted that the level was 7.5 million times higher than the legal limit. CNN host makes lame comparison of amount of radioactive water released to the amount of water in the ocean without reporting the astronomical high concentration.
      Hydrogen Explosion of Fukushima reactor #2 discussed with Arnie Gundersen CNN

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Thanks especially for the Arnie Gundersen explanation of reactor #2, which I hadn’t seen.

    • Anthony Anthony

      I enjoy your posts and hope you stay.

  • You just cant leave the net for a day, without coming back to reading the latest tepco bloopers…

    Some days I swear, a mushroom cloud could be rising over fukushima, workers would be falling randomly unconscious, and helicopters would be crashing into buildings, and Tepco would still state: “We are making progress”…

    Wait that already happened today…

  • radegan

    You are comparing a fully researched event, with nearly complete radionuclide disclosures and long under control with an ongoing horror show, marked by periodic revisions of releases by TEPCO and the Japanese government. And if you check just yesterday’s posts, you see even the politicized and ineffective IAEA accuses Japan of withholding necessary data.

    Ten years from now you might be able to logically compare them. And even if the 3msv is correct – IT’S INTERNAL – not a measurement of the sidewalk. Would you eat some lettuce with 3msv of cesium on it? AND – it’s not over. It’s not over. Got it?

  • Another thought:

    If we start getting electricity problems (blackouts)—that’s it for ongoing information.

    Then what?

    Might have to come up with a print newsletter.

    Canada—out of luck (post is on strike).

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Affichage public??

    • I dont think blackouts are an option. All in all, nuclear power supplies only about 15% of the worlds electrical consumption and there is tons of companies with capacity to fill that up with natural gas and similar.

      We could easily shut down all of the world nuclear plants if people and companies would reduce their electricity bills by 15%.

      • Very well put succinctly. I was saying these things until I realised that we are all living in the framework of the modern whose motto is maximising sales even to the effect that the efficiency of final delivered goods and services becomes negative! There is no pure reasoning in the modern ways. Otherwise they would not have had nukes and other negative deliveries in the first place. So me must change tracks and go normal which means the bottomline is to adhere to being good in thought word and deed. Like you said.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        If we used wind, solar, and geothermal we could move than cut down by 15%, and no one would be injured and we’d be more self-sufficient.

        • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

          Absolutely! I buy my electricity at home from a 100% nuke-free supplier (not only the energy is produced nuke-free, but the supplier also has no whatsoever relations to the nuclear industry).

  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    right now on Democracy Now! they featured Jeff somebody
    talking about the aging nuke-plants, metals becoming brittle.
    They usually run DemoNow a few times during the day on
    FSTV. I have come to feel Amy and crew are happy to take
    the nice paycheck and turn editorial eye as directed by same
    overlords as MSM. Now they are talking about Haiti.

  • CPM to Sieverts

    (user: antiprotons)

    “Remember, CPM does not scale to sieverts at a fixed rate for anything but the originally calibrated source. If you were calibrated for Cs137, than you tested uranium and read 200 CPM, it would not actually be 2 uSv/hr. (more like 8). CPM does not account for energy. Sieverts account for energy, mass, and time.”

    • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

      Your explanation is exactly what I have ranted about a number of times here.

      It is herding cats to get the point across about the difference between rate and quantity. Let alone the subtlety of equivalent dose.
      I struggle with how to trust media sources that report Sieverts as though it were a finite amount….like the idea that could be Sieverts in something or some one.
      The CPM clarification is a very good point. Thank you.

  • Anyone feel like doing a summary of all the reactors? I’m losing track.

    Start with the Executive Summary. Wrap it up with a summary[?].

    Executive Summary:

    The world is in grave danger.

    #1: melt-through
    #2: melt-through
    #3: melt-through
    #4: no core? crack in SFP-water leaking; bldg leaning, may fall.


    The world is in grave danger.

    Oceans: radioactive; radiation magnifies in fish and seaweed.

    Chernobyl-still active. Millions affected.

    Long-term: bio-accumulation, increased leukemias, cancers, deformed fetuses, increase baby deaths,genetic damage. Food destroyed.

    Ft Calhoun and Cooper: flooded?

    I guess it would go into more pages ….

    Solution: Attack Libya, shut down radiation monitors, increase austerity measures, deflect news to Lindsay Lohan and buy more reactors.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Corium (and also highly irradiated uranium fuel) has an interesting property: spontaneous dust generation, or spontaneous self-sputtering of the surface.

  • Mats

    Holy westwind!

    Japan is used to be saved by winds.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Here is a little history of what TEPCO has gotten away with in the past:

    And from Greg Palast:

    According to Greg Palast, former lead investigat­or in several U.S. government nuclear plant fraud and racketeeri­ng investigat­ions, for decades lead contractor­s falsified inspection reports on several key components to cut constructi­on and commission­ing costs of nuclear power plants.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Just checked HP front page. Top story right now:

    Scientists Say World’s Top-Selling Weedkiller Causes Birth Defects

    Ummm…we’ve known that for years and years, haven’t we? Why come out with this NOW?! I think they are trying to divert attention AWAY from Japan and just how bad it REALLY is. We know the TRUTH. Japan is well on it’s way to becoming the worst nuclear disaster ever, effecting everything in it’s path (PLANET) for centuries and centuries to come.

    • Are you speaking about Round up, Much the same as A O, ..?
      Being used on vase farming lands …
      World’s top commercial weed killer linked to infertility …

      May 11, 2011 … Monsanto also produces “Roundup Ready” corn, soybeans and cotton genetically engineered to withstand large doses of Roundup that would be …

    • Toadmac

      I have noticed a lot of cancer and the causes stories of late? None pin point any radiation as a cause? Yet here in australia they had an on going ad for as long as I can remember about the suns radiation being the cause of skin cancers.”Slip,slop,slap” and “there is nothing healthy about a tan” ads. Strange enough all the ads stopped after fukushima? Hmmmm… A tan must be healthy again. Bring on that radiation baby!

      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        I absolutely agree with you – we want facts. Problem: there aren’t any (or – not enough). I get also annoyed by some ramblings here and there – but, aggressing people gets us nowhere.

      • Au Au

        What he is referring to is, “Slip” (protective clothes) “Slop” (on some sunscreen) “Slap” (on a hat). By not running these ads that remind people how to avoid skin cancer people may forget and thus cancer increases and can’t be pinned on fallout.
        That is his point.

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Hope you don’t mind my posting this. Listening right now:
    Talking about the Japan economy and much much more.

  • Toadmac

    Pripyat, the town closest to the reactor (3 kilometers distance)
    That Would also indicate to me with some very simple math about 20x closer. Or maybe I missed something?

  • bfly

    FYI Dr.Caldicott has a she just put up an interview with Arnie.

  • bfly

    the interview is on subject .

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      bfly, sorry! My comment was referring to the side-show fights further up the thread!! I was glad you were bringing us back to the subject.

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Japan’s expecting some nasty inland-blowing wind over the next 2 days (see loop):
    That in combination with the rainy season…*sighs

  • bfly

    DR. Caldicotts website is interview with Mr. Gundersen is easy to find there. under the Fb section.

  • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

    Everyone should be made to know Dr. Caldicott’s work. She
    was a lonely voice striving to overcome Industry Politics,
    the military-industrial-classified Big Bucks. There are
    great lectures given by her available on video twenty years
    ago and since.

  • nomade

    Good old NHK has published some of the readings…

    “Six locations, including a park in a municipal housing complex, registered radiation levels of over 3.4 microsieverts per hour when measured one meter above ground. This exceeds the prefecture’s threshold for re-checking.

    Radiation of over two microsieverts per hour was recorded at 182 sites.
    The city said that it re-checked the six sites on Friday, and all locations registered lower radiation.

    But the city intends to restrict use of the park in the public housing complex, where radiation of 4.15 microsieverts per hour, which exceeds the central government’s limit of 3.8 microsieverts for a park, was recorded 50 centimeters above the ground.”

    They don’t mention the highest reading in that text but you can see it on the map in the link… 6.65mSv.

    Someone should tell the parents to demand readings at 0cm too.What’s the rationale behind taking measurements at 1m, 50cm and 5cm? Pseudo scientific BS!

    If you want to protect the children then take measurements where radiation levels are likely to be highest ie RIGHT ON THE GROUND…especially important in parks where kids play and in schools.

  • radegan

    Of course it cannot be a disaster. As you know, Dr. Yamashita has finally spilled the great secret of radiation – your attitude affects how you process radiation. Therefore, anyone who ever got sick from radiation had only themselves to blame.

    Think that’s crap? Me too. And that is the kind of ‘facts’ that have been released from Japan so far, that man tells those lies to the citizens who pay him. And he hangs dosimeters on their kids.

    The facts of Chernobyl are known. Day by day we come to know the lies that have already been told of Fukushima. The polite Japanese word is ‘revision’ of some measurement. Give it a decade and then compare. And remember, it’s not over.

  • Misitu

    Your pity is welcome, but better left for the perpetrators of the nuclear calamity when they come to be judged. Hopefully your turn will not have come when you offer to speak up in their defence.

  • The policy is based on the assumption that residents near disposal sites will be exposed to less than 10 microsieverts of radiation a year.
    The ministry will allow local governments to bury burned rubble containing less than 8,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium per kilogram of rubble at waterproof final disposal sites for ordinary waste. However, the ministry will ban such disposal sites from being converted to residential areas in the future.