Published: May 24th, 2012 at 3:18 am ET
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Fire aboard nuclear submarine at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard
WCSH 6
May 24, 2012
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In a press conference at 11:30pm Capt. Fuller of the Shipyard said:
“While the fire is not out the situation is improving. Due to the heat that was created by the fire, steam continues to emit from the ship from the fire-fighting efforts.
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According to the reporter above, the submarine’s dimensions are approximately 360 feet long by 32 feet wide. The reactor appears to be located about 200 feet from the front of the vessel where the fire is said to be burning.
SOURCE: localnews15
Published: May 24th, 2012 at 3:18 am ET
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Good grief!! Another log on the nuclear fire.
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What if it does a number 3?
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ah, it's all ok, cnn says it's extinguished. i shouldn't be so edgy i suppose
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It is a submarine. So, I guess that technically the reactor is in cold shutdown as long as the entire ocean is not boiling
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No, if the sea started boiling CNN would probably try to blame it on global warming.
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I wonder how much radiation is in that smoke in the video? Remember the rules of nuclear disaster minimization:
If the people see smoke, tell them it is harmless steam being vented.
If the people see an explosion, tell them it was harmless hydrogengas.
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"firefighters from numerous Seacoast communities, including Portsmouth, Kittery, York and South Berwick, provided mutual aid. An engine and foam truck were also requested from Logan Airport in Boston. State, local and federal authorities have been notified.
The shipyard gates remain open, and Fuller said the workforce will report to work as scheduled."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz9LAB7_C0w
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Blown camaro I think your terms are spot on and might I add that in minimizing the hydrogen explosion…that in itself could be liken to simple event that we could call Nuclear Flatulence…just passing some harmless gas…
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"the workforce will report to work as scheduled". It's not so baaaaaad, they'll say, sheepishly.
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Looking a bit more closely, it says "The shipyard gates remain open for workers to report for their shifts as usual on Friday."
This happened Wednesday, right?
Today is Thursday, right? No workers today? Wny not, if everything is so safe and the fire is out?
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@aigeezer: the shipyard gates are open…there's got to be a citizen scientist w/ geiger somewhere in that city…hoping for a CPM post here or youtube in the next 24, God willing!
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Nice idea, ion jean, but…
The story says "The shipyard gates remain open for workers to report for their shifts as usual on Friday" which may or may not allow a citizen scientist to walk into a naval shipyard with a GC (on Thursday).
If one does, security is lousy. If one doesn't, they keep their secrets. Lose, lose for the public.
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Actually, in the video interview, it does not mention Friday. The commander said the gates are open for workers to arrive "tomorrow." Tomorrow now meaning today (Thursday) as it was recorded last night.
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Good eye (ear?) huskydawg44. The text from the WCSH station website says Friday, but your version seems closer to the source – and probably makes more sense.
http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/201619/314/Fire-aboard-nuclear-submarine-at-Portsmouth-Naval-Shipyard
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This is bizarre. Look carefully at the text at the top of the page below the heading "In the control room of a Los Angeles-class submarine."
I won't spoil the surprise. Hehe.
Admin – please leave it there for a while.
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CIVILIANS? WTH?
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And the Fuzzy Math begins again!!!
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this is a recycled graphic from an incident where a sub hit a trawler.
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You mean there has been more than one scary moment with a nuclear sub? (sarc off)
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Cha-Ching!! Departing NRC Chief Presses For Heightened Safety Regulations http://huff.to/Lr4O6P via @HuffPostGreen
Come on Jaczko!! SPILL THE BEANS! IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO SHINE!
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Shine on Jazcko, you Crazy Diamond! I really hope you're reading this!
Know the Truth, and the truth shall make you free (in your mind, at least!)
Our children are counting on you, Greg!
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What is the purpose of the new safety regulations?…is this the hardened vents thing again?
Does anyone really believe that these reactors can be made safe?
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"What is the point of the new safety regulations?"
They want to make sure no one makes it out!
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PS..The point is NO NUKES..the only rational lesson from Fukushima.
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PS..Jaczko isn't resigning just yet..he stays to finish his term ..and his pals have indicated he could be renominated ..so for Jaczko's fans..it's all good.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2012/05/nrcs-jaczko-right-now-i-intend-to.html
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I'm R E A L L Y not a big fan of any of these guys but I have hope he WILL SPILL with his resignation! He WARNED about Daiichi. For that HE GETS A GOLD STAR…1 only.
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Here are the new rules…
I'm sure are sufficient.(not)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/health-science-technology/nuclear-aftershocks/first-post-fukushima-safety-rules-approved-by-nrc/
The first new reactors in 30 years has been licensed under his chairmanship.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/09/news/economy/nuclear_reactors/index.htm
Crazy Diamond..oh.. Whoopie..you are sweet..but I would never say such a thing to anyone..even in lovemaking..lol.
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Good point, Heart. This is reminiscent of the debate here about Arnie, and it reflects the dilemma we all face.
Should we be content with "improvements", knowing that the game will probably still be rigged or should we hold out for the much harder goal of "shut them all down"?
Is each little incremental victory worth pursuing? Do we put our energy into one accomplishment at a time or try to get a top-level global policy change that shuts everything down at once?…
The time will come when tptb will offer to shut down all the Mark 1 bwr reactors, ostensibly to shut us up, but really in exchange for our not opposing shiny new "safe" reactors, built at great public expense. Good is always the enemy of better – so what will we (the public) actually settle for?
My own take is that incrementalism is helpful, as long as one doesn't lose sight of the main goal. If Jaczko's moment in the spotlight yields some minor improvements, that's fine by me but I'll be looking closely to see what is being given up in exchange.
SHUT THEM ALL DOWN. (Sorry, but I needed to shout. It's been a while).
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good one aigeezer…
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Shiny new rules..before however… the NRC had just finishing loosening the rules.
June 19 2011
http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/06/nrc_loosens_ignores_safety_rul.html
Yes ..I believe in small gains..
I don't believe the new safety measures are technically efficient to prevent disaster.
Yes..there is a definite exchange here.
In my position ..I don't have to settle…SHUT THEM ALL DOWN.
Yelling..perhaps…taking an exception.. as it was done with clenched teeth.)
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It's an air-tight vessel, divided into many small air-tight compartments. Can't they just seal off the fire until the O2 is gone?
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Hobbynee- Excellent observation! Why just not choke out the fire close the lid and put it out!!!!!!! Well yes why not indeed? Obviously the drydocks main concern was putting the fire out without destroying the mundo expensive and top secret crap inside the wessel. Why didnt they pull the water gates and flood that puppy? Well it wasnt to save the sub thats already toast –Maybe it waz cuz adding the water woood just be converted to more fuel for the fire- Now what fire grows stronger with water? Well its either a nasty grease fire in the kitchen or Nu clear fuel- thats still steamin!
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Sure would be nice to see someone with a dosimeter confirming what ol buddy was saying in the interview.
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@stopnp
it looks like any fallout might hit greenland then norway initially and later it looks like it might split and some will go to spain..
a storm front might drag some of the fallout towards ireland but the storm disapates as it nears the continent. imo
http://magicseaweed.com/North-Atlantic-Surf-Chart/2/?imageScale=wind&size=750&chartType=WMAG&zeroHourTimestamp=1337817600&endTimestamp=1338422400&Gc=off&GcSpot=2&GcWave=1&GcPeriod=9
however we in the uk are having a heavy inundation from seemingly more than one location
suspect
dounray
sellafield (picking up gamma to 0.54 mcSv/h quick peaks this morning near oxford (in the mist 07.00 hrs gmt
this evening a lower range of 0.10 to 0.17 winds from the east
expect a release this evening again
the north of england MUST be really bad!!
sizewell in east uk is giving of mainly beta as now the peaks are 0.29 mcSv/h or less
got a kinda leady taste in the mouth perhaps.. says gulping applejuice!
heres a video of a gieger reading from london
it hasnt changed too much since..
and on the issue of coverups? at the start of the video i show kings college londons pollution montoring website..
notice that the solar monitors have been off for the last year..
it might be useful to know that they maybe turn off solar monitors maybe because the high gamma, from iodine specifically, effecting these monitors..??
london radiation from sellafield 22 may 2012
https://www.youtube…
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0TplDtRajc&feature=plcp
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Something fishy from the Video no water inside the ship and they blanked out the side with a screen to protect the ship from someone seeing something. The HULL IS A DOUBLE HULL so all the water they are using is NOT DOING A THING.
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@markww: aren't these craft supposed to be compartmentalized? If so, how is it possible for a fire to spread through water-tight sections? Do the doors still require manual closing? If so, were there not enough personnel on board to respond?
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Fishy to say the least markww! " the water they are using is NOT DOING A THING." I will give you my take: The water they are spraying on the side is to make it look like thats where the fire is? Also I would like to know what it means when stating "the reactor was not active"? Does this mean "cold shut down" or does it mean it was shut down mins/hrs/days/weeks before hand and therefore needing a longer period of time for the fuel to cool to be considered cold and safe? or was it getting fuel replaced and therefore has 2x the normal amount of fuel (spent & enriched) on board? Do these reactors use MOX? I am smelling a dirty rat to often these days. This crap just seems to much!
Peace.
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Drag it offshore and sink it..
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Do you smell the RAT ???
Things come in 3s for a reason, a human reason.
Since when does the army admit there is a fire next to a nuclear reactor and NOT categorically state that it can not possibly spread to the reactor.
All these nuclear disasters are MANUFACTURED to get YOU to accept the idea that we need an EVIL NASTY world government to CONTROL EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE !!!!!!
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