In a press conference at 11:30pm Capt. Fuller of the Shipyard said:
“While the fire is not out the situation is improving. Due to the heat that was created by the fire, steam continues to emit from the ship from the fire-fighting efforts.
According to the reporter above, the submarine’s dimensions are approximately 360 feet long by 32 feet wide. The reactor appears to be located about 200 feet from the front of the vessel where the fire is said to be burning.
"firefighters from numerous Seacoast communities, including Portsmouth, Kittery, York and South Berwick, provided mutual aid. An engine and foam truck were also requested from Logan Airport in Boston. State, local and federal authorities have been notified.
The shipyard gates remain open, and Fuller said the workforce will report to work as scheduled."
Blown camaro I think your terms are spot on and might I add that in minimizing the hydrogen explosion…that in itself could be liken to simple event that we could call Nuclear Flatulence…just passing some harmless gas…
The story says "The shipyard gates remain open for workers to report for their shifts as usual on Friday" which may or may not allow a citizen scientist to walk into a naval shipyard with a GC (on Thursday).
If one does, security is lousy. If one doesn't, they keep their secrets. Lose, lose for the public.
Actually, in the video interview, it does not mention Friday. The commander said the gates are open for workers to arrive "tomorrow." Tomorrow now meaning today (Thursday) as it was recorded last night.
Good point, Heart. This is reminiscent of the debate here about Arnie, and it reflects the dilemma we all face.
Should we be content with "improvements", knowing that the game will probably still be rigged or should we hold out for the much harder goal of "shut them all down"?
Is each little incremental victory worth pursuing? Do we put our energy into one accomplishment at a time or try to get a top-level global policy change that shuts everything down at once?…
The time will come when tptb will offer to shut down all the Mark 1 bwr reactors, ostensibly to shut us up, but really in exchange for our not opposing shiny new "safe" reactors, built at great public expense. Good is always the enemy of better – so what will we (the public) actually settle for?
My own take is that incrementalism is helpful, as long as one doesn't lose sight of the main goal. If Jaczko's moment in the spotlight yields some minor improvements, that's fine by me but I'll be looking closely to see what is being given up in exchange.
SHUT THEM ALL DOWN. (Sorry, but I needed to shout. It's been a while).
Shiny new rules..before however… the NRC had just finishing loosening the rules.
June 19 2011 http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2011/06/nrc_loosens_ignores_safety_rul.html
Yes ..I believe in small gains..
I don't believe the new safety measures are technically efficient to prevent disaster.
Yes..there is a definite exchange here.
In my position ..I don't have to settle…SHUT THEM ALL DOWN.
Yelling..perhaps…taking an exception.. as it was done with clenched teeth.)
Hobbynee- Excellent observation! Why just not choke out the fire close the lid and put it out!!!!!!! Well yes why not indeed? Obviously the drydocks main concern was putting the fire out without destroying the mundo expensive and top secret crap inside the wessel. Why didnt they pull the water gates and flood that puppy? Well it wasnt to save the sub thats already toast –Maybe it waz cuz adding the water woood just be converted to more fuel for the fire- Now what fire grows stronger with water? Well its either a nasty grease fire in the kitchen or Nu clear fuel- thats still steamin!
however we in the uk are having a heavy inundation from seemingly more than one location
sellafield (picking up gamma to 0.54 mcSv/h quick peaks this morning near oxford (in the mist 07.00 hrs gmt
this evening a lower range of 0.10 to 0.17 winds from the east
expect a release this evening again
the north of england MUST be really bad!!
sizewell in east uk is giving of mainly beta as now the peaks are 0.29 mcSv/h or less
got a kinda leady taste in the mouth perhaps.. says gulping applejuice!
heres a video of a gieger reading from london
it hasnt changed too much since..
and on the issue of coverups? at the start of the video i show kings college londons pollution montoring website..
notice that the solar monitors have been off for the last year..
it might be useful to know that they maybe turn off solar monitors maybe because the high gamma, from iodine specifically, effecting these monitors..??
london radiation from sellafield 22 may 2012 https://www.youtube…
Something fishy from the Video no water inside the ship and they blanked out the side with a screen to protect the ship from someone seeing something. The HULL IS A DOUBLE HULL so all the water they are using is NOT DOING A THING.
@markww: aren't these craft supposed to be compartmentalized? If so, how is it possible for a fire to spread through water-tight sections? Do the doors still require manual closing? If so, were there not enough personnel on board to respond?
Fishy to say the least markww! " the water they are using is NOT DOING A THING." I will give you my take: The water they are spraying on the side is to make it look like thats where the fire is? Also I would like to know what it means when stating "the reactor was not active"? Does this mean "cold shut down" or does it mean it was shut down mins/hrs/days/weeks before hand and therefore needing a longer period of time for the fuel to cool to be considered cold and safe? or was it getting fuel replaced and therefore has 2x the normal amount of fuel (spent & enriched) on board? Do these reactors use MOX? I am smelling a dirty rat to often these days. This crap just seems to much!
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