ABC Radio: “Cancer cases in Fukushima emerging faster than expected” — Japan Surgeon: I’m very angry, it’s very strange officials won’t release basic data (AUDIO)

Published: November 4th, 2013 at 11:21 pm ET


ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), Nov. 5, 2013: High thyroid cancer rates detected in Fukushima children […] A prominent former thyroid surgeon, who is also a veteran of the Chernobyl disaster, has told the ABC’s Foreign Correspondent program that the number of cancer cases in Fukushima are emerging faster than expected. However, another cancer specialist says the high rate is simply a product of widespread, sensitive screening, and no-one should be alarmed.

AM with Tony Eastley, Nov. 5, 2013 (Transcript Excerpts):

TONY EASTLEY, Host: One of the terrible legacies of the radioactive fallout from the Russian disaster at Chernobyl is now being visited upon people in Japan. Researchers in Fukushima are uncovering higher than expected rates of thyroid cancer in children. […]

MARK WILLACY, ABC’s North Asia correspondent: Before the nuclear meltdowns, health authorities estimated thyroid cancer rates among Fukushima’s children at between one and two cases in every million. Since the disaster […] about 200,000 children tested, there have been 18 confirmed cases of thyroid cancer and 25 more suspected cases – an unexpectedly high rate.

AKIRA SUGENOYA, Mayor of Matsumoto City and thyroid surgeon who spent years treating children in Ukraine and Belarus after Chernobyl: When I look at Fukushima now the number of thyroid cancer cases in kids is quite high. The doctors in Fukushima say that it shouldn’t be emerging this fast, so they say it’s not related to the accident. But that’s very unscientific, and it’s not a reason that we can accept. […]

GERALDINE THOMAS, Imperial College London: Following Fukushima I doubt that there will be any rise in thyroid cancers in Japan. […] If you look for a problem, especially if you use an incredibly sensitive technique, which is what the Japanese are actually doing, you will find something.

WILLACY: […] But as Foreign Correspondent discovered, Fukushima’s health authorities are acting almost in secret, even refusing our request for a simple age breakdown of the thyroid cancer victims, citing privacy reasons. This refusal to share basic data has aroused the suspicions of thyroid specialist Akira Sugenoya.

SUGENOYA: I’m still very angry. I think they have this data, so it’s very strange why they won’t release it.

WILLACY: And it’s not just the thyroid data that has been kept secret, so too were the initial meetings of the Fukushima panel charged with screening the region’s children. For parents like Tomoko Koike, who are worried about the effect of the fallout on their young children, it smells like a cover up.

TOMOKO KOIKE: I do not think they’re telling us everything. I cannot trust what they say. […]

Full broadcast available here

Published: November 4th, 2013 at 11:21 pm ET


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61 comments to ABC Radio: “Cancer cases in Fukushima emerging faster than expected” — Japan Surgeon: I’m very angry, it’s very strange officials won’t release basic data (AUDIO)

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Cancer will increase and spread further out. Heart attacks too.

    • vital1 vital1

      They only refer to Iodine 1-131 which has a half life of 8 days or an environmental life of 80 + days. They leave out the elephant in the room which is I-129. It has a half life of 15.7 million years.

      These children were not just exposed to I-131, but to other radioactive isotopes of Iodine including long life 1-129. The original EPA standard for I-129 was 0.1 Bq/kg.

      These reports indicate the populace near the fukushima plant was exposed to massive amounts of I-131 and 1-129.

      Iodine I-129 report:

      26th June 2013 – This scientific report indicates that the amount of long lived radioactive Iodine I-129, released during the early stages of the Fukushima Nuclear disaster, was 31 times greater than the short lived radioactive Iodine I-131. This study does not take into account any radioactive Iodine releases since then.

      Iodine I-131 report:

      “1.19 million becquerels/kg of radioactive iodine detected on leafy vegetables near Fukushima Medical University in March 2011. Being aware of this high radioactive iodine detection, Fukushima Medical University distributed potassium iodide pills to the doctors and nurses. The report points out that potassium iodine pills were not distributed to local men, women, and children. This university is located just south of Fukushima City.”

      • vital1 vital1

        This would mean that 36.89 million Becquerel/kg of radioactive Iodine I-129 was on leafy vegetables, at a combined total for of I-129 + I-131 38.08 million Becquerel/kg.

        The bio-accumulation of I-129 poses a serious health problem for animal and human populations. Unlike radioactive Iodine I-131, which has a short half life of 8 days, or an environmental presence of 80 days +, radioactive Iodine I-129 has a half life of 15.7 million years.

        No wonder they are trying to hide the cancer rate data, and why it is showing up so early!!

        The more people we educate the sooner change will happen.

        Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is
        quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the lifesaver.pdf or create your own, hand it out, mailbox it, Facebook it, Twitter it, or email it. Think outside the box, put it on public notice boards, hand it out to people, or put it into letter boxes when you go for a walk.

        • gottagetoffthegrid

          "No wonder they are trying to hide the cancer rate data, and why it is showing up so early!!"

          yep. the only one's surprised at the cancer rates are the ones who have taken the official release data from TEPCO and at face value.

          the rest of us have been telling them so since mid 2011 when it became obvious that they were out by orders of magnitude.

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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Latency for childhood cancer is only one year; for adult thyroid cancer is 2.5 years:

    “Executive Summary
    “The WTC Program Administrator has determined minimum latencies for the following five types or categories of cancer eligible for coverage in the WTC Health Program
    (1) Mesothelioma — 11 years, based on direct observation after exposure to mixed forms of asbestos, which represents a change from the October 17, 2012 version of the Administrator’s White Paper on Minimum Latency & Types or Categories of Cancer;
    (2) All solid cancers (other than esothelioma, lymphoproliferative, thyroid, and childhood
    cancers) — 4 years, based on low estimates used for lifetime risk modeling of low-level ionizing radiation studies;
    (3) Lymphoproliferative and hematopoietic cancers (including all types of leukemia and lymphoma) — 0.4 years
    (equivalent to 146 days), based on low estimates used for lifetime risk
    modeling of low-level ionizing radiation studies, which represents a change for
    lymphoproliferative cancers only from the October 17, 2012 version of the Administrator’s White Paper on Minimum Latency & Types of Categories of Cancer;
    (4) Thyroid cancer — 2.5 years, based on low estimates used for lifetime risk
    modeling of low-level ionizing radiation studies; and
    (5) Childhood cancers (other than lymphoproliferative and hematopoietic cancers) — 1 year, based on the National Academy of Sciences findings….”

      • dharmasyd dharmasyd

        Great info showing it is not too early to expect childhood cancers. Thanks for the link.

      • Pete

        Isnt this data specifically referring to the World Trade Center (WTC) fallout and contamination?

        It seems to read to me that this document was put out by the WTC medical claims administrator referring to World Trade Center health program specifically.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          It is written by the cdc, Center for Disease Control. If you look at the references, you see that it is not specific to the WTC. For example, reference #28

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

            Here is reference # 19:

            National Research Council
            Health Risks from Exposure to Low Levels of Ionizing Radiation: BEIR VII Phase 2
            Washington, DC: The National Academies Press; 2006

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          A short latency between radiation exposure from nuclear plants and cancer in young children.
          Mangano JJ.
          “Previous reports document a short latency of cancer onset in young children exposed to low doses of radioactivity. The standard mortality ratio (SMR) for cancer in children dying before age ten rose in the period 6-10 years after the Three Mile Island and Chernobyl accidents in populations most exposed to fallout. SMRs near most nuclear power plants were elevated 6-10 years after startup, particularly for leukemia. Cancer incidence in children under age ten living near New York and New Jersey nuclear plants increased 4-5 years after increases in average strontium-90 in baby teeth, and declined 4-5 years after Sr-90 averages dropped. The assumption that Sr-90 and childhood cancer are correlated is best supported for a supralinear dose-response, meaning the greatest per-dose risks are at the lowest doses. Findings document that the very young are especially susceptible to adverse effects of radiation exposure, even at relatively low doses.”

          Int J Health Serv. 2006;36(1):113-35.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          Latency Period of Benign and Malignant Thyroid Tumors
          “…the shortest latency period for both benign and malignant tumors was 1 year as occurred in 3 patients,…”

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          “…• Total body exposure of 400 roentgens/rad (or 4 Gy) causes radiation sickness and death in half the individuals. Without medical treatment, nearly everyone who receives more than this amount of radiation will die within 30 days.
          “• 100,000 roentgens/rad (1000 Gy) causes almost immediate unconsciousness and death within an hour…”

    • pure water

      Thanks, Anne! I have seen it post Chernobyl, and when they talk about 4 years, it was a little bit strange for me.

  • bo bo

    So…wow… they are saying the problem is overdiagnosis due to a super sensitive detector and a biased attitude by the researchers who LOOK for cancer.

    • We Not They Finally

      So if it were not for "widespread, sensitive screening," they just would have IGNORED the cancers and they would just GO AWAY?

      Where's the police there (or whatever is the equivalent there of the FBI) to come in and confiscate all the medical records? Seriously. Is there NO authority there who will not sanction these kind of criminal cover-ups at the expense of children's lives?

      It's O.K. to say that the cancer was just "overdiagnosed"? Then the child also winds up "too dead for it to have possibly been cancer"? Do they also "overdiagnose" deaths?

      But look. Fox "News" was already trying to pull that crap on America some weeks back. They had "experts" on a show claiming that cancer was being "overdiagnosed." I thought it was to get America ready for downplaying epidemics to come from Fukushima.

      And you know what? I still think so! That's exactly what I think. I was appalled, and I'll still be appalled if/when they do that again.

      Also in Japan, when they discovered that over one-third of the childhood population in the area already had thyroid nodules well over a year back, they prohibited second opinions and told the parents to just to "come back in two years" — unless it was so obviously ALREADY cancerous, that they could not send them home.

      • We Not They Finally

        P.S. Their sending home parents for two years, with children who had thyroid nodules also means that the problem by now is even WORSE than said. There are MORE children with thyroid cancer by now than they say. And it's because of UNDER-diagnosing, not over-diagnosing.

      • Max1 Max1

        "So if it were not for "widespread, sensitive screening," they just would have IGNORED the cancers and they would just GO AWAY?"

        How can something GO AWAY when it's never recognized in the first place?

        • We Not They Finally

          Exactly! Untreated cancers CAN'T go away. People eventually die.

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          I guess there wasn't "widespread, sensitive screening" when the Chernobyl "accident" happened, so they didn't find them for 4-5 years. The doctors want ancient technology so they don't find the cancers for 4-5 years as well?

          • mairs mairs

            I think WHO didn't go in to Chernobyl until five years afterwards. That was a point made by the former employee concerning the discover of cancer there.

      • bo bo

        Totally WNTF.
        And don't forget how cancer is being 'redefined' in the U.S. ( so that wsy less people will be diagnosed with it )

          • bo bo

            What is happening there now… will happen here very soon.

          • unincredulous unincredulous

            They redefined the meaning of "government."

            Now it means, "We suck."

            • bo bo

              @unincredulous – ELE (Extintion Level Event) has now been redefined as well – now it is called: BS ( Baffling Situation)

          • We Not They Finally

            bo, just went to this link — everyone should. It is completely sickening. In fact, there should be a mass vomit-in at the National Cancer Institute. Everyone take an emetic (that forces one to vomit) and go en masse to the National Cancer Institute and vomit all over these people.

            Note they also have a problem with the infant mortality statistics. They said that in the U.S., if there is any sign of life in a newborn and then he/she dies, it should be called a stillbirth, not an infant death, to bring the stats down.

            Say, maybe when these "experts" die, when THEY die, we can lay out their bodies and declare them "slightly dead," but then again, maybe it's been over-diagnosed.

            Then throw them into the sea, and if some fish swims along and eats them who isn't a species already extincted by radiation, then we can say, o.k., maybe they were dead. But we'll never know, will we, because the sharks ate them. So we don't have to include them in any damn statistic.

            Not actually trying to make a joke here, understand. It is just so revolting, that unclear what else to say.

            • 16Penny 16Penny

              I agree. I posted this a while ago on FB. I think it is more relevant to the Obamacare discussion as they are trying to tinker with how they have to provide care for the patients. No, it's not cancer, just the disease formerly known as cancer. Perhaps they are aware of the flood of cancer patients which will emerge in the coming years due to fallout and are taking preemptive measures to cover up the epidemic following Fuku fallout. I don't know their motivation but it doesn't appear to be in the public's best interest.

              • Time Is Short Time Is Short

                Absolutely they know what's coming. And they don't want to pay for it. Not that there will be enough doctors and nurses left to provide any decent care at all after all the reimbursement cuts.

                The Obamacare insurance fiasco is just the warm-up for all the medical professionals leaving the industry. They're not going to work for what they're about to get paid.

                Having insurance is one thing. Having a doctor to see, or a cancer clinic to go to, is a completely different thing.

                Got kids?

                • Time Is Short Time Is Short

                  "While previous projections showed a baseline shortage of 39,600 doctors in 2015, current estimates bring that number closer to 63,000, with a worsening of shortages through 2025," the group said in a statement."

                  "The AAMC projected a shortage of 33,100 physicians in specialties such as cardiology, oncology and emergency medicine in 2015."


                  Lack of oncologists? No cancer care. Lack of cardiologists? No cardio care. Both disciplines will be heavily impacted by the rad sickness now increasing. Maybe the doctors do know what's coming, and they're getting out while they can.

    • Max1 Max1

      That's the logic they're going with.

  • MichaelV MichaelV

    My neighbor confirmed what I had been told: his daughter has been having nosebleeds. Several weeks ago I was concerned about the children playing in the clay dust. The child is 2 years old and will happily show you one of the mud pies she liked to make during the past summer.

    Her dad has been hearing about the Pacific contamination, so I gave him the 2 minute version of how to minimize exposure to radiation from Fukushima.

    A curse upon all of the compliant media talking heads and the so-called experts they throw softball questions to.

    My neighbor asked to come over for more details. We have to do the media's job…!

    I'm pissed and f#@king tired….

    By the way, I live on northern California…

    • We Not They Finally

      That's terrible. And if you can get ANYONE on your local media to cover it, other parents with similar situations may come forward. Then parents can organize amongst themselves, picket the media, and the like.

      It's terrible, but that's probably what it will take. As time goes on, people will be getting terrible news privately in their doctors' offices, and feel isolated and afraid. Anyone who can organize people in picket lines or support groups is doing everyone a favor.

    • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

      Michael, I'm so sorry that sweet little 2 year old is showing those signs. But I'm so glad her family has access to someone who's been paying attention who can help them and urge them to seek further medical help. I hope you are also taking care of yourself. I've taken note of detox diets but your comments will cause me to be disciplined about making sure my family gets them.

    • pure water

      MichaelV, it is always like this – human to human. Experts calculate evarage data, as they are ordered, media speak what they are told.And individual for them is nothing more than a word or number. They do not see the faces of the victims.
      Rest well, friend, and ask the parents to tell other parents.This may seem too local for the global extend of the problem, but there is no sall good, and there is no unimportant child.

  • eatliesndie eatliesndie

    "I do not think they’re telling us everything. I cannot trust what they say. […]" – words from a wise parent…well, wise-ish. A truly wise parent would move their child away from the danger zone.

    • eatliesndie eatliesndie

      …on reading various comments above I recognise a serious flaw in my comment. Where is it safe for children to play during, and after, the nuclear Apocalypse?

      • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

        I mull these ideas over often. My spouse is not onboard w/running away. I see arguments for both sides yet for me the will to live is very strong. I can't imagine not wanting to elongate life as long as one can by whatever means possible. Most days I feel like that position is an outlier.

        Certainly the Japanese in the know must mull over moving to the southern hemisphere. That decision, however, would only buy time. Where and with whom you spend the last of your days (or quality of life) is certainly part of the equation. If I left for the sake of my children, we would be leaving behind my 80 year old in-laws for they would most definitely never leave. Oh, and our source of income would also be left behind. With most of my neighbors and the government insisting we could muddle through together, I can see how it becomes difficult to get up and go.

        • eatliesndie eatliesndie

          …personally, I'd run and buy some time… for my children. In fact I'd run until there was NOWHERE left to run to. But we all must make our own decisions, based on… our own experience and expectations…some can manage happiness amongst material poverty.

  • markww markww

    I have a question to anyone on the west coast of America.

    Does anyone have a Geiger Counter hand held that is close to the Rocky Mountains and hills around the California coast areas. Wanted to know if anyone has walked up to the hills and sides of the bottom of the mountains to check radiation levels to see if they has absorbed radiation and how much radiation is showing on the counters. Thanks MARKWW

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Great question but right after 3-11 I bought dosimeters and the older detectors and the readings where very high on the dosimeters. I had just left them on a sill where air would/could be drawn in/over them and they all climbed readily and steadily. The Sierras were slammed and finally I just put them all in storage/away since it was very evident radiation contamination was here and nothing could be done to stop the activity. I had personal symptoms and many people in the surrounding areas have come down with cancers and have since left the room. Its all a very sporadic in nature dispersal event.

      I believe this happened all the way up the secondary ranges throughout California and all the way up into/throughout the Cascade Ranges. Grandson was sledding in the Cascades in Oregon in late 2011 and he has stopped growing/stunted and I think there will be more of these reports but they are not being made public. The sporadic nature of fallout is critical to hiding the true results since its almost impossible to pinpoint theses increased health problems to the incoming invisible radiation contamination. What may have affected my grandson, may have already decayed and/or since washed away.

      This makes radiation contamination the perfect killer, silent, evasive, invisible, stealth, tasteless, odorless and constantly changing intensities and locations on the fly as the wind or rain blows/flows… 🙁

      • weeman

        What were the reading to the best of your memory, no use posting with no correlation, you would not be the only one to take readings, thx I sense I am in the presents of the force and it is stong.
        Ps get the Geiger counter out of storage.

      • Ana Ana

        I am so sorry your grandson has been affected. I live in Sacramento and we are purchasing a very good Geiger counter this month. We hope to be able to connect to some of the networks and provide readings for everyone.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Checked the Radiation Monitoring Data forum? That's where all that stuff is. There's some pretty good info in there.

      Clearly the radiation is higher in other areas east of the Rockies, but if you live on the West Coast you'll find what you're looking for.

  • mungo mungo

    Government to improve medical care response to nuclear accidents

    November 05, 2013

    By YURI OIWA/ Staff Writer
    The government is planning to enhance medical preparedness for nuclear accidents by designating "nuclear disaster hub hospitals" capable of treating patients with low-dose radiation exposure.
    The Nuclear Regulation Authority’s secretariat will set up a team to discuss revisions to the current system based on lessons learned from the disaster at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, sources said.

    The government plans to include the new system, including special assistance teams, in its basic disaster management plan by next summer following NRA approval, according to the sources.

    The core hospitals will be selected from among those offering emergency care on a daily basis within a 30-kilometer radius of a nuclear power plant and adjacent areas.

    Tentatively called nuclear disaster hub hospitals, they will be designated by local governments based on national standards set by the NRA secretariat.

    The hospitals will receive practical training on a regular basis so that residents in wide areas can be decontaminated and treated when they suffer from low-dose radiation exposure.

    Under the current system, there are no uniform standards for appointing hospitals responsible for decontamination and medical treatments.

    Local governments have traditionally selected them based on the

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Is this the new facility that will strap a muzzle on the patient, lock up their medical records, and forbid speaking about the exposure?

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      This is great and this should never ever had ever been required on the surface of this planet we call Earth… 🙁

  • Sol Man

    For the record, of the homes that I was fortunate enough to own since about 1984 I had never applied any herbicide for weed control; organic manure only and reseeding every few years.

    And, only used a electric mower because I didn't want any gas sitting around, as well as never did like the noise the machines made.

    We will probably all have to pay the cost of poisoning the waters and lands. We have sick "leaders everywhere!"

  • pkjn

    High thyroid cancer rates detected in Fukushima children
    November 5, 2013 ABC News
    Before the nuclear meltdowns, health authorities estimated thyroid cancer rates among Fukushima's children at between one and two cases in every million.
    Since the disaster the Fukushima local government has carried out a large-scale screening program and with about 200,000 children tested, there have been 18 confirmed cases of thyroid cancer and 25 more suspected cases – an unexpectedly high rate.
    And it's not just the thyroid data that has been kept secret, so too were the initial meetings of the Fukushima panel charged with screening the region's children.

  • Shaker1

    Silent shadows
    watching the skies,
    waiting for sunrise
    in careful disguise
    to ambush their master
    and laugh as he dies.

    (Copyright Rob Schneider)

    You're so correct, purewater.

  • mairs mairs

    I asked a friend what she'd heard about Fukushima lately. She's an example of someone who doesn't pay any attention to it unless there is a news report on a major TV network and she's sitting in front of the TV. She said that she and her husband don't eat Pacific seafood anymore, though it's not always easy to find other sources, she said. I was glad to hear that information like this is at least filtering through to people who aren't really paying attention, though she had no idea that they were about to remove fuel assemblies from SFP 4. She doesn't know what those are. At least she is becoming mindful of what not to eat.

  • Mats

    But where are the new numbers?

    Those 18 and 15 are from August i believe.

    There has to be some more now.

  • FXofTruth

    What kind of statement is this?

    "However, another cancer specialist says the high rate is simply a product of widespread, sensitive screening, and no-one should be alarmed."

    No-one should be alarmed?
    Stupid Specialist ALERT!!!
    I beg to differ with the "Cancer Specialist" it's time to be Fuk'n alarmed you idiot! Cancer is not normal. It's from doing crazy fuk'n things like 3 nuclear meltdowns!

    What did you get your specialist degree from a gumball machine?