“WIPP release story doesn’t add up… accident is unbelievable” — New tests show “high level” release underground — “Contains things far more radioactive than High Level Waste” — “I want to hear what really happened down there” (VIDEO)

Published: March 6th, 2014 at 1:38 pm ET


Carlsbad Environmental Monitoring & Research Center, Mar. 5, 2014 (emphasis added): Station A (pre-HEPA) in the morning following the event (2/15/14) showed high levels of radioactivity consisting of 1,365 Bq/m3 of Americium (241Am) and 672 Bq/m3 of Plutonium (239+240Pu). Twenty-four hours following the event (11:30pm Saturday 2/15/14), another filter sample showed much lower levels of radioactivity, measuring 130 Bq/m3 of 241Am and 17 Bq/m3 of 239+240Pu. […] It is important to note that while very high levels of radioactivity were measured immediately following the 2/14/14 radiation detection event, these values are reflective of what was measured prior to going through the HEPA filtration system […] Station B (post-HEPA) in the afternoon of Tuesday (2/18/14). Analysis of this filter showed a moderate amount of radioactivity measuring 1.81 Bq/m3 of 241Am and 0.224 Bq/m3 of 239+240Pu. […] it is evident that a moderate amount of radioactive isotopes were released into the air from the WIPP exhaust shaft […] CEMRC scientists are preparing to collect soil and surface water samples […]

SimplyInfo, Mar. 5, 2014: What is still unknown is the total of the release itself. […] DOE claims that the brief release of plutonium to the environment happened through the normal exhaust system the brief moment before the HEPA filter kicked in.

AP, Mar. 6, 2014: […] officials emphasized that all radiation readings at the site have been at low levels, and it would be too soon to speculate about any potential health effects.

Carlsbad Current Argus, Mar. 5, 2014: Employees […] can relax. [The Dept. of Energy said] the employees are unlikely to experience any adverse health effects. […] plutonium and americium isotopes continue to linger underground. […] “What the data tells me is that there was an initial puff of radioactive dust and now the air in the underground is still kicking up the dust and transporting the radioactive particles,” Hardy said. “We still have a ways to go and at least we’re going in the right direction. The HEPA filters appear to be catching the bulk of it.”

Albuquerque Journal, Guest Column, Mar. 6, 2014: WIPP release story doesn’t add up […] I also support southern New Mexico’s quest to be the nuclear processing economy of the country, cradle and grave. […] The recent accident at [WIPP] is unbelievable to me. Nearly 20 years ago I went to WIPP, rode the elevator down, saw the tunnels […] Transuranic waste, the exclusive purview of WIPP […] is classified as a subset of Low Level waste, but it contains things that are far more radioactive than anything classified as High Level Waste. […] I want to hear what really happened down there. WIPP was envisioned and engineered to never have a release for 10,000 years. […] I remember who I thought were the hysterical ones testifying to the endless public panels before WIPP opened. One read into the record a long scenario with specific chemicals leeching together, fire and the resulting black smoke belching from the horizon. That person described in great detail the underground circumstances leading up to the release that nobody thought would ever happen. That person, whoever it was, was kind of old back then, and I wonder if he’s alive to see it. I’m now thinking he may get to say, “I told you so.”

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Published: March 6th, 2014 at 1:38 pm ET


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152 comments to “WIPP release story doesn’t add up… accident is unbelievable” — New tests show “high level” release underground — “Contains things far more radioactive than High Level Waste” — “I want to hear what really happened down there” (VIDEO)

  • Its in the congressional record? well then! looks like a good read….

  • Doesn't add up?

    Well then, just WIPP it up some more, and it will add up just fine!

    Numerous, Severe Geological Problems Identified At WIPP Site; via @AGreenRoad

    • norbu norbu

      When a problem comes along you must WIPP it, WIPP it good…Devo…

    • Cisco Cisco

      Dr. G…it's amazing the cajonnes these bastards have. The data and the rationale they are serving up is so far from accurate, it's unbelievable. They have the MSM in their back pocket. They know they can depend on the MSM to serve up their disinformation, covering all their asses. We can only hope when their lackey co-conspirators discover the big lie of nuclear that has been fed to them, some of the newly enlightened will seek extreme restitution.

      • Kashiko Kashiko

        Very extreme restitution I hope. remove their damaged genetic garbage from the gene pool! Sorry.. not so nice but they make me steaming mad

        • We Not They Finally

          The WIPP facility is EXEMPT FROM ALL LAWS. EPA, NRC, environmental protection, everything! And no, regrettably no one can "remove damaged genetic garbage from the gene pool." We wish, but not going to happen and it is not even known how to do it.

          • Are they also immune to lawsuits?

            They seem to have just made up everything as they went along, and just threw whatever they wanted in there.

            • I have to say I do not like at all how currently things seem to be speeding up, culminate and amalgamate. Because I do not think this is just coincidence. Which means that is is happening for a reason – a reason we don't know.

              • sentinelle sentinelle

                Now that I've read the links to info about the history of this site, I realize that it's been a time bomb waiting to happen for some time.

                Then there's the dam up in Washington about to blow just upstream of another nuclear waste site.

                I can't help but to recall the sentiment after the BP spill, in the gulf, was that there was more money to be made in clean up than there was in the original operation. How convenient a clean up to help cover up – if anyone lives to tell the tale.

                • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication


                  Don't forget that the President's budget for 2015 removed a significant amount of money which had been allocated to continue the "cleaning up" of Hanford. What a coincidence!

                  • name999 name999

                    nonprevarication, don't think for a minute that this is the president's budget…the pressures that create this budget are not from the president.
                    presidents are not as powerful as you might think.

              • irhologram


          • American Phoenix57

            Actually WNTF they're working on it. For the wealthy elite only of course.


            • Angela_R

              AmericanPhoenix57 Re "a powerful new way to edit dna"

              They spliced the atom and now they're doing it to DNA. Atomic isotopes produced from man's stupidity show instability on their own; they are destructive.

              Do they anticipate a different result from a similar aim in genetic interference?

  • WIPP Ventilation System 'Unstable', Possibly Due To Underground Explosion, Another Explosion Possible AT ANY TIME via @AGreenRoad

  • "…scientists are preparing to collect soil and surface water samples in the vicinity of the WIPP facility." – CEMRC

    The event occurred on 2/14/14.

    How long does it take to 'prepare' to take soil and water samples?

    Q: Shouldn't testing of these things be done immediately without question?
    A: Of course it should.

    We're now going on 3 weeks.

    Once the samples are finally taken, then we get to wait for the results that inevitably never seem to come in a timely manner. Sometimes results are released, but then a year or two later they admit they lied or were mistaken in their initial readings, so of course, more testing may be needed. 😉

    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      Well, sooner or later the guys that work there will get tired of all the nonsense, waiting to see whats up.

      And, sooner or later, they will quit getting paid to wait.

      I agree with you, they need to get moving. Waiting is not better.

    • Cisco Cisco

      "How long does it take to 'prepare' to take soil and water samples?"

      A long time…when your objective is not to take them. SSDD!

      Welcome to the psychopaths' reality.

    • S.O.P. hide 99%, admit only 1%.

      After all, there are no 'flight data recorders' like they have on jets, and these nuclear facilities can kill millions of people, instead of just hundreds at a time.

      Amazing, how they get away with murder and without being forced to reveal ANY evidence of the crime.

      Hide it all, cover it up, and no one can prove any different.

    • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

      Chas – They delay as long as they can so that many radionucleides will disapate and they want to aknowledge as little as possible, also levels of remaining contamination will be thinned and spread out further. Whole freakin nuke bizz regs are rigged in favor of the house.

    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication


      I still believe the beginning was on February 5th with the truck fire. Americium and Plutonium would diminish if it was not reported until February 14th. Therefore, not such a large release. Naturally so little truth is told that everything is a guess.

      • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

        @NP; "Me too"!!, I thought something didn't smell right on 2/5 as well??!! If it was a "salt truck unrelated to the nuke crap" I don't even believe it would've made it into even the local news media reports and I had the same sense of dread as 311 did or as Peter Parker would say,"my spidey-senses were tingling"??!! If we aren't all already dead(?)then their lies & actions will kill us before they're done! 🙁 I have to get away from this PC now. The wife''s sick[er](again) and I'm about to blow a head gasket with all the shitium flying through what's left of my mind right now!! They reall FUKuD us!!(again)…

    • Same thing happens after every nuclear accident..

      Lots of promises, different government agencies saying that they WILL test and report, then nothing.






  • Nick

    Why would ANYONE take the official lies anymore?

    You need to make your own decisions about this event NOW if you are downwind.

    A little caution is better than panic.

    Expect results from the offsite testing to be classified.

  • SadieDog

    The DOE will host a town hall meeting at 5:30 p.m. Thursday, March 6, at the Walter Gerrells Performing Arts Center. Community members and interested stakeholders are invited. Media is also welcome, but questions will not be taken from reporters until a news conference call is held that same evening at 7:30 p.m.

    Rep. Pearce will hold a town hall meeting Friday afternoon, March 7, in Carlsbad to listen to concerns local residents have regarding WIPP. According to a press release, federal, state and local officials have been invited to help answer questions. It will be held at the Leo Sweet Center at 4 p.m.

    The U.S. Nuclear Waste Technical Review Board will hold a public meeting at the Marriott Hotel in Albuquerque  on March 19 to discuss research and development on using salt to dispose of high-level radioactive waste and spent nuclear fuel.

  • Cisco Cisco

    GEE…Whoda thunk! Government intelligence?

  • Tiza Tiza

    This is really bad:

    Thursday, March 6, 2014
    ALERT! Airborne Cesium 137 Was Detected At WIPP Facility: Sign of SIGNIFICANT UNDERGROUND DAMAGE
    New (and better documented) data has been released by CEMRC showing that Cesium 137 was initially detected during the explosion at WIPP. This detection is a bad sign for two reasons:

    (1) It shows that the explosion and its after affects were strong enough to affect the highly radioactive "Remote Handled" TRansUranic waste (RH-TRU)….

    See rest at website.

    • There is not supposed to be any cesium down there, right?

      • Shaker1

        "There is not supposed to be any cesium down there, right?"


        It's basically an article describing some of the politics and costs of the plutonium management agreement between the US and Russia and their respective policies toward that end. This seems to include both civilian and defense PU. Both countries have interest in using this a MOX, the Russians in particular in their current and developing fast breeder reactors. Part of the policy here in 'immobilization', which is what I imagine is what might be happening at WIPP if any of the waste from Savannah River is different than just the low level waste most thought they were supporting for internment at the site when I lived there. Certainly, nothing that I heard in those discussion was anything of the 'cannisters' mentioned in the above comment. There is no metion or picture of such in the article, but there is a picture of a proposed 'can-in-a-cannister' which is a welded structure which contains immobilized PU surrounded by highly contaminated radioactive waste that seems designed to kill anything trying to access the PU before that access happens. That makes some sense, but one does wonder how well these would survive tons of material falling in on them…The article itself is well worth the read, and I've added the site itself to my list of worthwhile informational links.

  • until and unless there is a imminent awakening to the premeditated genocide goals of the nukesters events like this at wipp are to be expected, if not planned.
    I for one do not expect such an awakening. hope and change are always followed by despair and genocides in human history.
    prove me wrong.

  • 4Warnd 4Warnd

    The update by the "officials" will, appropriately, be held at the Performing Arts Center. Ironically.

  • Nick

    The Salt Mine Solution
    BY MATT PALMQUIST • April 16, 2009 • 6:11 PM
    "Here, a half-mile below the southern New Mexico desert, we are entering the only operating deep geologic nuclear waste disposal site in the world. The Department of Energy’s Waste Isolation Pilot Plant has been disposing of nuclear waste since 1999; its trucks have logged more than 7 million miles across the United States, bringing both low- and high-grade radioactive waste to the facility. In its decade of operation, WIPP has disposed of 95,000 loaded waste containers, the equivalent of 250,000 55-gallon drums, with no toxic releases to the environment or contaminated personnel. "

    This was 4 years ago.

    How many of these containers are compromised?

    DOEs the salt REALLY, TRULY self seal?

    Something is fissioning in New Mexico!

    • jec jec

      Something REALLY doesnt add up..its only supposed to store LOW LEVEL radioactive waste…but guess what,DOE certified via their OWN 'executive decision' to allow higher level waste without modification of permit. Someone needs to FOIA for the email trail..

      From above:
      "disposing of nuclear waste since 1999; its trucks have logged more than 7 million miles across the United States, bringing both low- and HIGH-GRADE radioactive waste to the facility" CAPS are mine..

      Oh..is high grade nuclear waste from South Carolina, Washington State, California..and points inbetween.supposed to be transported on federal highways..without contacting the states involved in the transit..????


    • Nick, this is a special type of salt that doesn't corrode steel <sarc>

      they are storing this high level shite, in CARBON STEEL, the easiest to rust.

      • vital1 vital1

        This was sent to me by Leuren Moret, and has given permission to publish it.

        Hi Peter – I want you to know that I worked as a geochemist at Livermore Nuke Lab 1989-91 on the WIPP project. DOE spent about $2.5 billion dollars developing a “package” (canister) for the low level nuclear waste intended for the pilot study at WIPP. After 5 years in the Permian salt formation, the packages/canisters were brought back to Livermore nuke lab, along with the same canisters used to store rad waste at Yucca Mtn in Nevada. The bacteria in the “mines”, as they are referred to at Livermore, had eaten the special metal alloy
        canisters IN FIVE YEARS and left the nuclear waste.

        They STILL after 50 years have no way to safely store their radioactive waste. $2.5 billion later, a Judge in Washington DC about 5 years ago, ordered the Yucca Mtn. project be scuttled with all their fraudulent science. He told them to throw it all out and start from scratch if they wanted to pursue it. He also told them that the National Academy of Sciences had recommended that the waste must be guaranteed to be safely stored for 200,000 years. The Yucca Mtn. project ignored that non-negotiable requirement and said it would be safely stored for 10,000 years. They could not even store it safely for 5 years.

        • vital1 vital1

          The Judge ruled on the case and threw the Yucca Mtn. project into the
          nuclear garbage can.

          The entire project at WIPP and at Yucca Mtn. were science fraud at the beginning, the end, and in the middle.



          It would appear that they where relying on the salt to seal it.

    • [WIPP] "…safer than working at Toys R Us."
      – Conca director CEMRC

      Interesting inside view of the site.

      Article: 2009

  • bo bo

    Just like fuku.. the sly use of past tense: nobody knows what 'happened'…
    Isn't it more like: nobody knows what's 'happening'?

  • lam335 lam335

    POYR blog:

    "ALERT! Airborne Cesium 137 Was Detected At WIPP Facility: Sign of SIGNIFICANT UNDERGROUND DAMAGE"


    Why are there Cesium-137 traces from an explosion in a facility that is only supposed to handle transuranic garbage?

  • weeman

    Homer's Heroes, I dont want to know.
    To know is to be culpable.

  • BlondyFu BlondyFu

    The WIPP story doesnt add up because its all a lie. Try the truth. Wasnt this waste storage site supposed to hold "low level waste"? It sounds like they were storing high level waste and possibly experimenting with it to see if they could make some weapons with it. I think something happened and went very wrong and it exploded. Or there was sabotage. Or both. Whatever is happening at WIPP is ongoing and I will bet theres still dangerous releases of radiation still happening. ;0(

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    We need to stop producing this lethal Nuclear Waste worldwide and we need too stop it now!

    We are all dead men and women walking based on the Nuclear Technology scientific hubris.. 🙁

    Our children's children will all be suffering from such Nuclear Folly for many generations into the future.. 🙁

  • Who lives in New Mexico and can go ask some biting questions that will trip them up, catch them in a lie, and get them backpeddling on camera?

    If I was within 200 miles I would go. Shooting fish in a barrel these nukers are easy to topple their lies.

    The DOE will host a town hall meeting at 5:30 p.m. Thursday, March 6, at the Walter Gerrells Performing Arts Center. Community members and interested stakeholders are invited. Media is also welcome, but questions will not be taken from reporters until a news conference call is held that same evening at 7:30 p.m.

    Rep. Pearce will hold a town hall meeting Friday afternoon, March 7, in Carlsbad to listen to concerns local residents have regarding WIPP. According to a press release, federal, state and local officials have been invited to help answer questions. It will be held at the Leo Sweet Center at 4 p.m.

    The U.S. Nuclear Waste Technical Review Board will hold a public meeting at the Marriott Hotel in Albuquerque on March 19 to discuss research and development on using salt to dispose of high-level radioactive waste and spent nuclear fuel.

  • Ontological Ontological

    This news bugs me even more than all the other news since the gulf. I am, speechless, oh that's due to my jaws being rebuilt and no financial ability to finish the "dental" work.
    I can certainly believe this, I saw it coming. The logic of "ventilation" in a high level waste storage facility is completely stupid; until it becomes a premeditated murder weapon. Wind Injected Plutonium Puffer = WIPP. WTF is this demented bunch of government fools up to now? These days an 'accident' is not acceptable as an excuse for murder. If this WAS a real screw up, well then FRACK on baby FRACK on! Destroy the most ancient and stable part of the Earths mantle, just a perfect end to such an idiotic race.

  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    I think they know what is happening and hope it will go away on its own. And at the same time know that it won't. So they have a problem and would like a long period of privacy to dwell on it. From the link to "Numerous, Severe Geological Problems Identified At WIPP Site" given above it is obvious this was a bad idea to begin with. They know recriminations are in order–but wish to postpone them indefinitely. So once again as at Fukushima early bad planning. Then carelessness on a regular basis. Now they find acting as though it is a real surprise seems the way to go.
    Since this is a clear demonstration of what we can expect from gov and corporations we have no grounds for imagining any improvement. Human nature being what it is nuclear power and other technological miracles are too dangerous. We need to start immediately to drop the idea of science and technology as saviors completely out of our minds. The next you read or hear of a new scientific discovery realize it may well be reason for fear and trembling. Breathe and relax and go for a walk if necessary. Release this phantom of evil from your mind!

  • dosdos dosdos

    The history of nuclear waste disposal has been one long constant fight. Those who possess want to be rid of it as cheaply as possible. And this task often ends up in the hands of the lowest bidder. There are still cases today of nuclear waste being dumped in landfills, some sixty years after it was a common practice by those making a fast buck. The nuclear waste disposal industry still has the same mentality, do it as cheaply as possible. (Ooops, tagged and shipped the wrong set of barrels…)

    It's a sleazy business, because those disposing the waste aren't willing to pay the full price for it to be done properly. No matter how it gets regulated, it's still a sleazy business.

  • 4Warnd 4Warnd


    That is the number of nuclear explosions unleashed upon Earth. See the time lapse of the count from 1945 to 1998. Appalling. What were they thinking?


    Some one above commented with "…trying to harness…." but the history is really the unleashing of nuclear. Oh, and maybe we'll see if it can be harnessed up later on!

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      "2053-That is the number of nuclear explosions unleashed upon Earth."

      Yes, Four.

      When one looks at that map, you can see how many of those explosions happened in the southern hemisphere. Those considering escaping from the hell on earth that is about to hit the USA in the global reset, are going to South America. Sounds good in theory, but when you look at all that fallout hitting the SA continent, and how it winded up throughout the panama canal region, there is no reason to think that going from one hot situation to another that is worse, is any escape at all from the growing radiation pollution and contamination all around the world.

      Of course, one would escape the reset and coming martial law(nazi germany 2.0) in America by going down to SA. It's a real toss up, because these banksters have conquered almost every country, but America. If only we had all our troops guarding our borders from the enemies within, instead of guarding every other border in the world.


      Focusing on our local preparations is good. Distractions from the big picture are what is happening on the world stage. We should not detract away from this local issue.

      May this next news be good news. Hopefully, we will have a representative from Enenews there to take notes and ask questions. Questions like, what are the CPM's outside of this facility, and what are they downwind RIGHT NOW? No BS measurements, just give us something easy to…

  • GQR2

    Simply info:
    they're planning re-entry next week.

  • jec jec

    PUFF PUFF PUFF..anyone think this is a good scientific term? Lets call it what it is..an EXPLOSION, NUCLEAR ACCIDENT or BOMB BLAST.

    WIPP and DOE dumb down the reports..with 'apple pie' semantics..
    RELEASE=RADIOACTIVE CONTAMINATION (Hey..better NOT be on purpose..a RELEASE is on purpose..or should be)

    • 4Warnd 4Warnd

      Please, now you've torn the veil. And, before you're mayhem upon their language, it was so, so, comforting!

    • Alright – enough is enough !
      I hereby arrest you for revealing state secrets to the enemy, better known as "the public".
      Please follow me inconspicuously and try not to attract attention. That would only worsen your situation.

      • Why that dream was so nice… just nice gentle 'puffs' of creamy plutonium to add to the ice cream..

        Now it is just a dirty plutonium/cesium/amercium bomb that went off and it just keeps on going, going, going, with no end in sight.

        And it got covered up for the first six days, just like Chernobyl, TMI, Santa Susana, Fukushima, and all the rest..

        Absolute banana whitewash is the rule, minimization de law, and complete cover up if possible the policy.

  • Fred

    Just like nuclear power company executives, we'll all feel much better when the really nice, new executive homes for the director, his family and upper staff, and their families are completed right next to where the exhaust ducts from the mines releases the purified, continuously HEPA filtered, zero nucleids-tolerated air into his nice new home's purified air intake.

    Won't you feel better? Let's build them all nice homes in a nice community, on the site, and force them, if necessary, to live there to make us all feel safer. If there's no releases and it's all as safe as they say, they won't mind at all….(c;]

    Secondarily, it keep the plant from cutting corners and getting cheap and slovenly, forever, if his family dies FIRST…
    All nuclear facilities should be modified this way….

    • Only makes sense to be close for emergency response. Ill pitch in for the fund.

    • Better yet, build those executive homes right on TOP OF the exhaust vents, both at the nuclear power plants, mines and storage facilities, so if any explosion or release happens, they are the first to experience it.

      Of course, they get free air conditioning, straight out of the mine shaft, cool, dry and 'fresh' air…

  • I think I found the Old Man who testified: it is Harry Willson, and i posted his speech is here:


    may he rest in peace.

    • 4Warnd 4Warnd

      Thank you for that post aff!

      And, the moniker "a female Faust" reminds me of the tale of Faust, his bargain and his fate.

      This story is another way of understanding what we as a species have done with N-science and the technologies of mass death.

      [And, the original is also a good read.]

      • "Der Herr
        Solang er auf der Erde lebt,
        So lange sei dir's nicht verboten,
        Es irrt der Mensch so lang er strebt."

        "The Lord
        As long as he’s alive on Earth, So long as that I won’t forbid it,
        For while man strives he errs."

        I second that last sentence :-(.

        • 4Warnd 4Warnd

          chills down my spine…

          • Want more ?

            Habe nun, ach! Philosophie,
            Juristerei und Medizin,
            Und leider auch Theologie
            Durchaus studiert, mit heißem Bemühn.
            Da steh' ich nun, ich armer Tor,
            Und bin so klug als wie zuvor!
            Heiße Magister, heiße Doktor gar,
            Und ziehe schon an die zehen Jahr'
            Herauf, herab und quer und krumm
            Meine Schüler an der Nase herum –
            Und sehe, daß wir nichts wissen können!
            Das will mir schier das Herz verbrennen.
            Zwar bin ich gescheiter als alle die Laffen,
            Doktoren, Magister, Schreiber und Pfaffen;
            Mich plagen keine Skrupel noch Zweifel,
            Fürchte mich weder vor Hölle noch Teufel –
            Dafür ist mir auch alle Freud' entrissen,
            Bilde mir nicht ein, was Rechts zu wissen,
            Bilde mir nicht ein, ich könnte was lehren,
            Die Menschen zu bessern und zu bekehren.
            Auch hab' ich weder Gut noch Geld,
            Noch Ehr' und Herrlichkeit der Welt;
            Es möchte kein Hund so länger leben!
            Drum hab' ich mich der Magie ergeben,
            Ob mir durch Geistes Kraft und Mund
            Nicht manch Geheimnis würde kund;
            Daß ich nicht mehr mit sauerm Schweiß
            Zu sagen brauche, was ich nicht weiß;
            Daß ich erkenne, was die Welt
            Im Innersten zusammenhält,
            Schau' alle Wirkenskraft und Samen,
            Und tu' nicht mehr in Worten kramen."

          • "Faust
            I’ve finished Law and Medicine,
            And sadly even Theology:
            Taken fierce pains, from end to end.
            Now here I am, a fool for sure!
            No wiser than I was before:
            Master, Doctor’s what they call me,
            And I’ve been ten years, already,
            Crosswise, arcing, to and fro,
            Leading my students by the nose,
            And see that we can know – nothing!
            It almost sets my heart burning.
            I’m cleverer than all these teachers,
            Doctors, Masters, scribes, preachers:
            I’m not plagued by doubt or scruple,
            Scared by neither Hell nor Devil –
            Instead all Joy is snatched away,
            What’s worth knowing, I can’t say,
            I can’t say what I should teach
            To make men better or convert each.
            And then I’ve neither goods nor gold,
            No worldly honour, or splendour hold:
            Not even a dog would play this part!
            So I’ve given myself to Magic art,
            To see if, through Spirit powers and lips,
            I might have all secrets at my fingertips.
            And no longer, with rancid sweat, so,
            Still have to speak what I cannot know:
            That I may understand whatever
            Binds the world’s innermost core together,
            See all its workings, and its seeds,
            Deal no more in words’ empty reeds."

          • "Faust
            Bei euch, ihr Herrn, kann man das Wesen
            Gewöhnlich aus dem Namen lesen,
            Wo es sich allzu deutlich weist,
            Wenn man euch Fliegengott, Verderber, Lügner heißt.
            Nun gut, wer bist du denn?

            Ein Teil von jener Kraft,
            Die stets das Böse will und stets das Gute schafft.

            Was ist mit diesem Rätselwort gemeint?

            Ich bin der Geist, der stets verneint!
            Und das mit Recht; denn alles, was entsteht,
            Ist wert, daß es zugrunde geht;
            Drum besser wär's, daß nichts entstünde.
            So ist denn alles, was ihr Sünde,
            Zerstörung, kurz, das Böse nennt,
            Mein eigentliches Element.

            Du nennst dich einen Teil, und stehst doch ganz vor mir?

            Bescheidne Wahrheit sprech ich dir.
            Wenn sich der Mensch, die kleine Narrenwelt
            Gewöhnlich für ein Ganzes hält –
            Ich bin ein Teil des Teils, der anfangs alles war
            Ein Teil der Finsternis, die sich das Licht gebar
            Das stolze Licht, das nun der Mutter Nacht
            Den alten Rang, den Raum ihr streitig macht,
            Und doch gelingt's ihm nicht, da es, so viel es strebt,
            Verhaftet an den Körpern klebt.
            Von Körpern strömt's, die Körper macht es schön,
            Ein Körper hemmt's auf seinem Gange;
            So, hoff ich, dauert es nicht lange,
            Und mit den Körpern wird's zugrunde gehn."

          • "Faust
            We usually gather from your names
            The nature of you gentlemen: it’s plain
            What you are, we all too clearly recognise
            One who’s called Liar, Ruin, Lord of the Flies.
            Well, what are you then?

            Part of the Power that would
            Always wish Evil, and always works the Good.

            What meaning to these riddling words applies?

            I am the spirit, ever, that denies!
            And rightly so: since everything created,
            In turn deserves to be annihilated:
            Better if nothing came to be.
            So all that you call Sin, you see,
            Destruction, in short, what you’ve meant
            By Evil is my true element.

            You call yourself a part, yet seem complete to me?

            I’m speaking the truth to you, and modestly.
            Even if Man’s accustomed to take
            His small world for the Whole, that’s his mistake:
            I’m part of the part, that once was – everything,
            Part of the darkness, from which Light, issuing,
            Proud Light, emergent, disputed the highest place
            With its mother Night, the bounds of Space,
            And yet won nothing, however hard it tried,
            Still stuck to Bodily Things, and so denied.
            It flows from bodies, which it beautifies,
            And bodies block its way:
            I hope the day’s not far away
            When it, along with all these bodies, dies."

            • Gasser Gasser

              So if this world is of intelligent design who is creating these Billions if not Trillions of weird creatures Sea, Land & Air that fight and feed off each other for survival and territory, just as we humans creatures do, or is it just haphazard freak molecular big bang conglomerations, or sinister young ass~hole celestial students on the secret side seeing who can create waring pain and suffering creatures to win creative ego battles for quantum leaping bet’s or bragging rights on round planetary objects floating in a space medium contained in a clear amphora on the work table lab of a supposed Gods scientific creation exploits to make life shit happen in order to qualify the unqualified?

              I’ve got ultra serious doubts about this pice of shit supposed created haphazard world…there I intellectually stirred the creative turd's punch bowl to cause thinkamation.

              who’s going to fix it?…in your “fix it” equation factor in, Hanford, Fukushima, WIPP, plus 700+? tons of Nuclear waste and 440+ other aging Nuclear reactor time bombs, just to mention a few of the $cientist $granted nasty human screw up’s, along with bad ass Mother Natures unpredictable whims…ya baby were screw pooches without a “There I fixed it” bark.

              • I spent nights upon nights thinking how this might all fit together. Without actually finding a reasonable theory, unfortunately.
                However, one of the most devilish thoughts I came up with is as follows: What is if they have the technology to decontaminate matter or neutralize radiation, but they do no plan to use it to save us ? What if they intend to barricade in their bunker at safe locations, watching and waiting us die before they use their magic technology ? So that them (plus the necessary number of slaves) will by everything that is left of mankind, by design ? The raise of a "sustainable" two-class system à l'Egyptiènne ?

                • And don't tell me man would not be capable to commit this kind of "crime" (a suitable word would have to be invented, I guess).

                  • 4Warnd 4Warnd

                    try this:

                    Die Herstellung von Tod


                  • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

                    I'd held that thought of the possibility of the existence of radiation "neutralizing" technology since this particular mess began 3 years ago and said the same thing here in my posts as early as late-March,early April 2011 and I can only assume that the blissfully silent majority of the public must think they will break out such devices or compounds to save everyone like a Bruce Willis vs. an incoming asteroid movie even though heroes don't save the world from disasters or evil men in real life(?). The thing is that again I don't think anyone who "appears" to be a "man" who would commit such an unprecedented atrocity could actually BE human & if so would be a "sub-species" unworthy of living if they are so inclined to participate in such a vile series of filthy acts or even be so negligent as to allow so much suffering & death to occur as is possible with nuclear crap whether via "intent" or "incompetence" & worse of all if they do in fact have the ability to end this global crisis underway easily capable of wiping everyone out(?)! Or at least I tell myself that or perhaps I'm already "dehumanizing" those responsible so I wouldn't feel hesitation or remorse if our shared troubling thoughts of "Agenda 21" possibilities became known & proven true while I still had the strength and/or opportunity to extinguish those responsible including their existing bloodlines in retaliation for our grievous losses at their genocidal,inhuman hands & I'd bet I wouldn't…

              • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

                here's the thing though "G",radiation mutates DNA and any higher power who created us in his image can't possibly have been behind nuclear's invention. As for the rest of the questions about the other life forms I have recently began to understand why we don't get the answers at this plane of existence but I had a feeling come over me lately that tells me we don't have much longer to wait for them to be answered. But that's about as far as I'm qualified or willing to go into a subject that's been banned here for good reason even if the time to re-evaluate the issue is very near.But anyone who has answers to anything I've pondered in this thread is more than welcome to elaborate further in an acceptable manner & method since I'm struggling with the same things more or less myself and wish I knew "why" and what to do next! Take Care friends 🙂 ..

            • name999 name999

              "how all things live and work
              and ever blending
              weave one vast whole from life's ample range.
              how powers celestial
              rising and descending
              their golden buckets ceaseless interchange
              their rapure breathing pinions weaving between heaven and earth
              their genial influence bringing
              through the wide spheres
              their chimes melodious ringing" Goerthe, "Faust"

      • GQR2

        really great post a female faust
        i had never heard of Harry Willson.

      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Hello AFF,

        We have heard (corrections required) that the time of release of any potential radiation at WIPP was in the neighborhood or 33 minutes, or something along that line. Right?

        So, this video on your page showing 2:44 minutes of filmed release far exceeds that of what they SAID we released. Are we off here? It is obvious that the release was ongoing BEFORE this was filmed, and it is obvious it would have been ongoing AFTER this video was taken. So how long was this release of the hazardous evil killing radiation?

        The point is, there could have been a heck of a lot more radiation released here, as well as so much beforehand and after that was UNSEEN. The darn sad thing is, the lame stream media can not be trusted to tell the truth anymore. Truth in media is a thing of the past. Something that might have at one time existed in the history of this once free nation. Only the foreign press tells the truth anymore.

        If anyone has questions, (Stock) maybe you can call this reporter and have him ask your questions for you. If he does not do it, then it will be be plain Jane obvious they are covering this up, like the fukushima ELE. That being so, and as was mentioned here above, the intentional population elimination agendas march forward under the clouds of ignorance, and denial.

        Reporter Zack Ponce may be reached at 575-689-7402.

        From this article below.


    • Hero = Harry Wilson

      Memorable statements.
      Thank you Mr. Wilson!

      These words belong in a verbal 'Hall of Fame'.

      I really like this tidbit.

      "We who see the truth and protest what you are doing are a tiny voice crying in the wilderness, but we will not shut up, and lying about safety will not make what is unsafe safe, no matter who does the lying." – H. Wilson 1997

      Dang! 🙂

  • Chief

    I have been reading this site for awhile and decided to register so I can ask and answer.

    I dug up an older article (2010) about WIPP and the fact that DOE needed a place to put the High Level junk that was suppose to go to Yucca Mtn in Nevada.


    I guess that the move was made and maybe the design of the facility for low level junk wasn't good enough for high level junk ?? There is a lot of money riding on this storage facility and the precious jobs. Can't spend it if your dead.


    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Welcome, Chief.

      Please share your light, and questions. Someone may answer them, or comment.

      What we see, is not always what will match the truth. Get used to it. If you are down there near this Event, please connect with Stock here and go ask them some of his questions if possible.



  • Flapdoodle Flapdoodle

    We are still getting the initial "puff" of radiation from Fuku. At this moment, the wind is 17 MPH from the South, which is where WIPP is from me, some 85 miles away.

  • We Not They Finally

    We're here in New Mexico and we're angry. We're in Albuquerque, supposedly out of the pathway of the plutonium releases. But then we both had the same bizarre, never-before physical symptoms within a day of each other. Nothing life-threatening (I guess that would not show up for a few years in any case,) but strange enough that we both said at once, "This has to be radiation!"

    We just put ourselves on a seventh waiting list to move back East. Soon as something liveable and affordable shows up, we're gone!

    A group called ResistanceUnited did a very good hour-long doc called "Radioactive Plutonium Plume coming out of New Mexico's WIPP" — the whole history of WIPP — who tried to stop it, and how there is NO REGULATION in play — not EPA, not NRC, not subject to environmental hazard laws, not anything. They could kill a million people penalty-free.

    here was even an elderly woman shown who was alive at the fist Los Alamos bomb tests. She said that all their crops died all their livestock died, and they were never told a thing by anyone. Then the people starting dying — lots of cancer in her family.

  • Nigwil


    'It's said that a single alpha decay has enough energy to visibly reposition a grain of sand on the beach.'

    Plutonium emits alpha. Inhale a particle of that, and imagine the ongoing damage happening inside you.

    From earlier reports:
    '.. every single worker on the site when the alarm was triggered late night on Valentine’s Day Feb. 14 received internal dose…'

    Poor beggars. The Valentine's Day gift that will keep on giving. So sad.

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      From earlier reports:
      '.. every single worker on the site when the alarm was triggered late night on Valentine’s Day Feb. 14 received internal dose…'

      Nice catch, Nigwil.

      Made a big boo-boo in the post above. They say this was going off for 33 minutes? We said it was longer than that looking at the smoking video thinking 33 seconds above. Opps!

      But in reassessing the point of view, how about this reasoning: If this is true that the alarms were "triggered late night", and we view the above mentioned video that seems impossible to find a link to now, that shows it was smoking away in the day time, what was going on in the time between the triggering of the late night alarms, and the time of day that this smoking plume of radioactivity was filmed? Hard to get a time stamp on this video as it cannot be found. Something unseen and unreported is what should be looked into.

      Hummmm…sounds like the second question to ask. First being, how hot in CPM's is it outside of WIPP RIGHT NOW today?


      • It could have been venting for 6 days straight.. who will know any different?

        They covered this up for six days, before saying anything about it.

        What happened during those six days?

        Twiddling their thumbs?

        Playing cards?

        Maybe doing a full on, full blast, no filters release, trying to clean up the air?

  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    Lest we forget..New bubbles in the Bayou Corne.. We never did figure out what exactly was down there.. http://www.wafb.com/story/24844744/residents-who-remain-near-bayou-corne-sinkhole-say-theyre-losing-faith

  • cooterboy

    In any ventilation system there are two types.

    This relates where the fan is located, inside the mine or is it located outside the mine?

    If the fans are located inside the mine the duct work is pressurized flowing to the surface and where it exits the ground, there is, and will be leaking before it gets to the HEPPA filters through the duct connections.

    In any inspection of an HVAC system there is a "extraneous leak coefficient" percentile on the downstream air flow that is figured in the TAB,(testing, adjusting balancing) form. In other words how much air is leaking from the duct work given that 100% of all seams, joints and connections are properly sealed. In a commercial building this is around 1.4% for every 10 connections.

    Given that a HEPPA filter is 99.7%, at 5 microns, effective where is the calculations on the pressure loss? There has to be some.

    Elements that affect duct work performance are; expansion, contraction, temp, wind, location, size of vent, humidity, UV degradation, type of joint sealants etc. These elements all affect the performance of air flow or lack thereof.

    If the fans are located on the surface the duct air flow is under negative pressure, sucking in air around the joints all the way to the fan which would not allow any air from escaping into the environment. If the HEPPA filter is on the negative side of the fan there would be 100% particulate entrainment, less .3%.

    Does anyone know where these fans are located?…

  • vicky13 vicky13

    Just received this from ArnieG at Fairwinds,,

    What’s leaking from the nuclear Waste Isolation Pilot Program?


    • combomelt combomelt


      • GQR2

        doesn't it though combomelt? It must have taken a lot of brains to think up that storage scheme. 10,000 barrels per panel(what they call the football size rooms they carve out in the damp salt in the middle of the fracking that is taking place all around the WIPP. What could possibly go wrong? No worries cue the cartoon happy music these are smart scientists ..their motivation is pure. They are carrying on the utter insanity of Edward Teller, in some of the rooms down there with experiments for thermal rockets, neutron experiments too.

        A gigantic collusion of systems is woven in here. university, DOE,CEMRC,the DOD for sure, and a few others. (the head of LNAL quits a bit of an oppsy the corruption and collusion is so rampant)
        No one is accountable and they just keep doing it! Making more waste they have no idea what to do with …so they put the deadly stuff in household goods,feed,other metals. Utter madness.

        Can you imagine standing in that room ? i would lose my lunch!

        • combomelt combomelt

          GQR2 indeed! brain trust to put all that in that cave!
          Do you or anyone else know where that cave is??!??

          im just sittin here watching the wheels go round and round,
          i really love to watch them roll…..
          thx again

    • irhologram

      In the Arnie vide, he says: what about the worker's clothes and contamination by personal contact with those exposed? These workers didn't just get dosed in their lungs…it was found in urine tests…like drug testing. My question is are they peeing into the community sewer system? Are other people, who may not now know they're "positive" peeing into municipal water? Does water treatment for this area include recycling as it does in many systems? In the future are we to be wary of air, water, food, AND THE PEOPLE WE MEET? Are there travel restrictions for those potentially exposed? Is there any form of local quarantine? I am loathe to bring up such questions. I know the answers are: no. The isotopes are freely moving in and among us as the sphere of contamination expands…not just in wildlife and the food chain as has been discussed here…but in ourselves.

    • irhologram

      Notice the # of fracking "pads" at the very end of the vid as camera zooms out. Every concrete square you see is a frack site.

  • rogerthat

    ''I remember who I thought were the hysterical ones testifying to the endless public panels before WIPP opened. One read into the record a long scenario with specific chemicals leeching together, fire and the resulting black smoke belching from the horizon. That person described in great detail the underground circumstances leading up to the release that nobody thought would ever happen. That person, whoever it was, was kind of old back then, and I wonder if he’s alive to see it. I’m now thinking he may get to say, 'I told you so.' ''

    -Hmm, black smoke belching up from the horizon, black smoke, now where have i seen black smoke belching up from four holes in the ground recently?

  • rogerthat

    Ah yes, here we are, from ENENews, February 5:
    TV: “Imminent situation” at U.S. nuclear site — Emergency operations center evacuated due to fire deep underground — “One of most serious incidents” on record — Anonymous footage of thick black smoke coming from ground (VIDEO).

  • Then they covered it up for six days (or more) complete news black out.

    What happened during those six days?

    Don't give them wiggle room.. they will take every inch and stretch it out to a million miles, smiling while they do it.

  • American Phoenix57

    Vick13 repost: Just received this from ArnieG at Fairwinds,,

    What’s leaking from the nuclear Waste Isolation Pilot Program?


    Good video, nice graphics and new data. His math on the total full radioactive flow over 30 days seems solid and scary. Nice post Vicky13.

  • James Tekton James Tekton

    "Obviously, the US/EU media is corrupt. Only a fool would rely on their reports."

    Paul Craig Roberts – March 6. 2014



  • WIPP Says the leak is plugged.

    Residents want to know what caused the leak. WIPP said it has been plugged, and it will not affect tourist attraction Carlsbad Caverns."


  • There are a number of shafts going down into WIPP..

    They plugged them all up?

    No air going in, no air going out? No elevators going down, none coming up?

    What did they 'seal' it with? Duct tape?

    Or is this just another lie and smoke screen PR statement?

  • MT

    Hi everyone ,
    I have a question , who is measuring the radiation levels in the ocean , and where can i find the information about it ?
    Thanks .

  • MT

    I was more looking for a site where i can see live ocean radiation levels . Is there a site for that ?

  • MT

    Thanks ,
    Basically i am looking for something like this http://www.netc.com but for the water radiation levels not for the air levels . If that exists .
    Thanks a lot .

    • SadieDog

      Nope, other than the govt boats and subs , I don't know. And they are gonna tell us anything. Maybe somebody else can find something.

    • MT, check http://safecast.org, they have been doing really great work. am trying to track down links on white house cuts to ocean radiation survey funding — rumour i heard, unsubstantiated. other than that, i know of no such program…

      EVERYBODY: the movie of "the underground fire on the truck used to haul salt," if that's the one that is hard to find, i archived it on my site, here:


      and since it isn't on youtube it'll be harder to pull. also i will provide a zip file of stills if anyone is interested, my email is on my blog, scroll down.

      ALSO note that THE FIRE IS SUPPOSED TO BE UNCONNECTED WITH THE RADIATION RELEASE. yes, that is what they are saying. so this vieo is of a nice lil conventional truck fire. thus no discrepancies can be intuited from the video.

      but thanks for Zack's number, anyway.

  • TO ALL YOU BEAUTIFUL ENENEWSERS: this is dedicated to 4warnd, name999, and especially fukugeddon, for making it so warm and inviting here…thank you so much for the literary inspiration, and for the praise! actually it got me off my ass to put up a post i have been meaning to for a while — here is an excerpt from the intros on the post and on the youtube page:

    …this is (in part) a presentation of my translation of the last verse of Goethe's Faust, the centerpiece of a solstice ritual whose text I had written circa 1992. It was performed live at the Cow Palace for New Year's Eve 1995 by yours truly, a female faust, in tails, top hat, & half white face, as vocalist and Enochian Ritual Unit for IAO Core in chill-room collaboration with the A.T.O.I..

    "What is destructable is but a parable;
    Here is perceived the unattainable:
    That without words
    here becomes *action*


    be seeing you!


      magnificent, a female faust. I'm totally impressed and blown away by its encompassing depth. I'll be 'studying' the composition in greater detail. While deeply grateful, I feel unworthy in only being able to offer my sincere thanks for what you and your associates have returned to this barren age…

  • (since here i am doing my best agreenroad impression –posting links– although nowhere near as informative or thorough —

    a bit of humor, if you are so inclined, that i wrote after hearing that fukushima prefecture has pledged to go all renewable energy sources by 2040…


    very very dry humour.

    ps sorry i didn't see the replies sooner!

  • Chudleigh Chudleigh

    WIPP makes TEPCO look like a bunch of nobel laureates.

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