AFP: Fears that molten fuel went into ground after melting through containment vessels at Fukushima — They still can’t find three reactor cores (AUDIO)

Published: January 23rd, 2014 at 5:31 pm ET
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Press Conference with Doug Dasher, University of Alaska Fairbanks researcher, Nov. 6, 2013 (at 8:00 in): Fukushima has continued to leak. They continue not to be able to stabilize or find where some of the melted cores are from the reactors. […] It’s not a stable site. >> Full press conference available here (at 8:00 in)

Kyodo News, Jan. 23, 2014: In an experiment conducted between February 2012 and last month, the team succeeded in using the rays to produce images of nuclear fuel at an offline nuclear plant in Tokai, Ibaraki Prefecture. Nuclear fuel melted down at three reactors at the Tepco plant as a result of the March 11 earthquake and tsunami. Inaccessible inside the reactors, the melted nuclear fuel’s exact condition remains unknown.

AFP, Jan. 23, 2014: “We are conducting this study carefully as this enables you to find where nuclear fuel is anywhere in the world,” said Fumihiko Takasaki, a researcher at the High Energy Accelerator Research Organisation [...] Engineers working on the decades-long decommissioning are faced with a series of difficulties, not least of which is that they do not know exactly where the molten fuel is inside the battered reactors. Present technology is not robust enough to allow them to get a look inside the units, where some fear that fuel has melted through containment vessels and possibly into the ground underneath.

See also: Image published by embassy in Japan shows Fukushima melted fuel deep underground

Published: January 23rd, 2014 at 5:31 pm ET
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154 comments to AFP: Fears that molten fuel went into ground after melting through containment vessels at Fukushima — They still can’t find three reactor cores (AUDIO)

  • guevara3712

    i'm tired of hearing they can't find the cores. sorry that's just ridiculous to think they can't image highly radioactive material in a blob.they know where they are, they just don't want US to know where they are.


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    • GOM GOM

      Guevara. "blob". I don't know if anyone has brought this up and at the risk of sounding stupid, can these "blobs" meld together underground? Spread out somehow until they meet?


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    • Toadmac

      +1…… I think there is semi-truth in what they are saying. They have good data, top experts, exact building/boiling death pot specifications & design, exact tonnage/ingredients of fuel and also 50+ years of research to have a rough idea of the core locations!! The truth part is 50' or 2000'? Is it getting hotter,cooler,bigger or smaller? I am a builder by trade and my knowledge of nuclear mechanics & GE Mk1 BWR's was very limited and weak at best before Fuku. Within 3 months of this disaster I had done enough research from many scientific papers & sources to understand with confidence of what had happened……
      Total melt out of reactor vessels within hours…..
      Total melt out of containment building(China syndrome)& ground water explosions within hours & days.
      50+ years of research……… THEY KNEW THIS WAS THE OUTCOME 30+ YEARS AGO, LYING FOR PROFIT AND POWER :(
      Peace.


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      • Jebus Jebus

        Awesome, yes, sums it up… + 311 + 1049 + "no immediate harm"

        Our #3 alphabet criticality friend knows for sure.

        I bet his mother doesn't…

        Oh ya, Hey NSA!

        Truth Shines…


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      • Toadmac

        By the way, I read here every day. I dont post much anymore because the project I & others were working on attracted…..um…. strange happenings shell I say? I have a young family and thats enough for me.
        Keep the good work up everyone & don't back down.
        Peace.


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        • charlie3

          Why be so cryptic about what has scared you Toadmac? Just state what made you afraid.


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          • Toadmac

            Constant phone calls from 2 government environmental agencies asking odd questions about environmental issues?? Almost always at a really inconvenient time and they never call back when I ask them to ?. Its like they are there watching me and do it on purpose? There ph numbers are many and sometimes blocked but most of the time not hidden. They cannot be called back as the number says plz check the number and try again? I have had 4 calls just this week, always 20sec after I pull out onto the street after work? Apparently I was picked out of a hat and they told me it is mandatory to answer there questions or they will start knocking at my door? Has anyone else had this???
            I will say no more but trust me they are very persistent!!


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            • charlie3

              Have them communicate with you in writing, and through your lawyer.


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              • Toadmac

                Sounds fear? I will ask next call.
                Cheers


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                • flatsville

                  Next time they call, insist on full name, employee no., name of immediate supervisor, working retutn phone number and explain you will have your legal counsel return their call on your behalf.

                  If that doesn't stop it, there are other things you can do. I speak from experience.

                  >>>Apparently I was picked out of a hat and they told me it is mandatory to answer there questions or they will start knocking at my door?<<<

                  This makes little to no sense.


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                  • flatsville

                    And since their claim doesn't make sense, explain that since you have not been served with a subpoeana and therefore not compelled to answer any questions, you eill need them to cite, in writing whatever statute, reg or rule they believe authorizes them to question you and requires you to amswer. You will then pass it to your legal counsel to respond.

                    This sounds more like a prank or some extermely bored govt. functionaries freelancing with a little harrassmemt. Shutting this down should be relatively easy if you stand your ground and don't show fear.

                    It's at best a rank amateur effort…I've actually seen this kind of thing happen with faked subpoenas.


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                    • Toadmac

                      I have been advised to no longer answer any blocked or unknown callers. If they do manage to catch me off guard I am to notify them the call is to be recorded for reference purposes. I'll wait & see what happens I guess?
                      Cheers.


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            • Jebus Jebus

              I don't know where you reside Toadmac, but where I come from, those individuals would get the Fukushima single finger salute, in no uncertain terms and without mincing words…


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            • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

              Toadmac…I didn't have what you are speaking of but I received several strange calls from a State of California Emergency response office that I was selected for a "mandatory" census on what I was going to do in case of an emergency i.e how much food and water on hand.

              They also wanted to know how many children were in my household, and what medical conditions and medications of everyone in the household. They called several times once at 8PM, and I told them I wasn't well and couldn't talk (which was true) and so I never gave them any answers. This was in October 2013 and I moved away from that area, so I haven't heard from them since.

              Probably legit…but very weird.


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            • Toadmac

              About 30 seconds after the above post went online they ring me to tell me about an environmental law concerning port Phillip bay, Victoria and ask me what I think then say bye. I try to call the number back and wrong number??????????????????????????????????????????
              That is no coincidence!!!


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            • zogerke zogerke

              document every call. time, voice, questions, numbers. Call it harrassment. You have no idea if they are legit. And even if they might be. Can you block individual phone numbers? Can you use a screening mechanism? Agree, ask for name, ID number, supervisor's number. Accuse them of being an identity fraud phishing scam and say you will not speak to anyone unless verified. And agree, mention lawyer. Document document document


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            • jec jec

              Tell the police! This is some nut job. If they see you leave for work (OR its the same time each day..might be different)..its could be someone living nearby. On the phone number, its likely not even the right one. Been there done that. Changed my phone number, it fixed that. Plus Make sure your facebook, and contacts setting are NOT public. I stay off facebook.


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          • Toadmac

            @charlie3. Your not one of them are you? Where are you from?
            Am I watched under the terrorism laws? Is there any polite Irish on here that someone can point out?
            Just curious?
            Family time now.
            Peace.


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      • dharmasyd dharmasyd

        Hi Toadmac. Good to see you again, and I applaud the points you make. I also have posted very little lately, but I always read. I'm still fighting. I will keep fighting as much as I can at 81 yo, low income senior, disabled. But I'd rather die protesting than live on my knees allowing this travesty to go on.


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        • Toadmac

          A true heart you have! I was disappointed in two senior citizens last week while discussing greed, pollution and murder for profit. It will effect our future generations. There answer was "we don't care because we will be dead soon". It was hard to take, especially coming from my parents :(
          Take care.


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    • WWJD WWJD

      I agree, they want to just keep talking while doing nothing about it.


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    • Gradius

      Are you forgetting this thing EXPLODED?!?

      It exploded 3 times if you don't recall!


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  • pattersonp

    So lets take these statements a part a little bit:

    1) they want to find SOME of the melted cores
    1b) re-critical fuel, melt through, ejection from explosions, etc has moved considerable amounts of the fuel OFF-SITE.

    2) They are trying to devise some new technique for finding ANY fuel ANYWHERE in the world but are NOT testing it at Fukushima (yet)?

    3) Present technology cannot allow them to 'see' inside the buildings.

    In other words: they know fuel has left the buildings but don't know where (underground, atmosphere, etc), researchers are not even directly studying the Fukushima site directly, and the technological barrier is somehow stopping them from directly viewing melted corium 3 years after it started.

    We can get to the moon through radioactive space-time, land gadgets in intrastellar orbits on OTHER planets but TEPCO can't slide a worm camera down a hole into skeleton-like buildings for 3 years.

    http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Douglas_Dasher/ < he found Plutonium in 2008 in Alaska.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      you're aware, pattersonp, the containment areas within these buildings experienced unprecedented exposure to radiation. I'll be reviewing the challenge of assessing the damage, as I know you're already aware of the situation:

      These reactor buildings and 'cores' are constructed to contain the 'burning' fuel, while 'protecting' personnel from undue exposure to same. If you ask anyone (other than a TEPCO-approved representative), it's generally accepted that the containment system for each of the three buildings, has been breached and exited same. In the process of burning-through 'containment' (and their respective support structures), the surrounding materials have 'soaked-up' massive quantities of radionuclide byproducts. This slow-crawling 'excursion' resulted in the rad-contamination of all surrounding materials; both man-made and natural.

      Attempting to 'snake' conventional sensors and/or vision systems into these contaminated areas, is (currently) impossible. The semiconductor industry is currently researching a new generation of transistor technology that can survive high rad-flux conditions. While they've successfully built prototypes of these rad-hardened transistors, it'll be years before they move from 'breadboard' to system's level fabrication. Until that goals realized, 'in-vivo' analysis of the aforementioned conditions will be impossible…


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      • humptydumpty

        I don't buy that argument. Electronics don't need to be located on board robots, and it isn't necessary to use robots to do remote imaging. Fiber optics can extend the range of sensors and hydraulics can provide mobility. I agree with pattersonp — they're making lame excuses.


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      • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

        AFTERSHOCK & pattersonp:

        I am compelled to chime in here on this issue of getting cameras
        in to the buildings in any attempt to see what is going on.

        I spent 20+ years immersed in GaAs IC design, both for digital and microwave applications.

        Gallium Arsenide was a default choice for many space applications
        because it was inherently rad-hard by default…..no special processing needed.
        Silicon required rather exotic (out of the commercial norm) processing efforts/tricks to get it to be radiation tolerant.

        Needless to say, the demand for rad-hard silicon ICs is very low
        in terms of commercial volumes.

        Also note that in today's Si processes (typical BiCMOS) the glass
        plates will cost you about $1 Million and take many months to get them all back after you place your order.

        Add to that the fact the wafer fab will take easily 9 months
        or longer.

        The latter does not account for the cost of the wafer fab either.

        Add in an agenda for rad-hard and the situation gets very time
        consuming and expensive, even if you could get the rad-hard fab option.

        The problem with the Fuku mess is that it is still being dealt with as though it is a commercial (non-military) problem.
        And some one elses problem.

        Hence, the suits do not see any ROI on any money spent to get
        specialized electronics (rad-hard CCD and processors)made just
        to satisfy a curiosity about where the coriums are.

        Even if they found the coriums, then what??

        The nuclear genie is out of…


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        • orsobubu orsobubu

          Fire, if you're right this would be another proof that capitalistic system of production is inadequate to manage this disastrous technology and, in general, to allocate resources to solve generald needs of mankind. About commercial question, i would no be so sure that military aspect can be considered out of question here, maybe there are some nuke implications that constrains authorities to act this apparently absurd way.


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          • artika rama

            orsobubu Military aspect definitely plays an important part here imo . infact main reason IMO they have been using MOX fuel in those untis . Those plants are not only used for producing energy . but this is only my opinion ;)


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            • orsobubu orsobubu

              Agree Artika, one aspect for me is plutonium is key factor in any national nuclear energetic policy, the other is I cannot imagine a big and powerful country like japan, third economy in the world, being only the seventh for military expense and I cannot absolutely imagine having not a secret nuclear arsenal, ready or at least planned


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              • artika rama

                orsobubu I have been discussing about thi on other forums as well and i have been chatting with people who have been involved with the nuke industry and they are totally sure those nuke plants were not built ONLY to produce energy . They were more like test and production of rare isotopes etc for weapons development . Infact it seems , MOX is not the best fuel if you want to produce electricty and it is not only japanese but also other countries are involved in it .


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        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          great comments, fireguyjeff. I think we discussed this very topic, years ago; when they first attempted to use vision systems to assess the damage in one of the buildings.

          Really great to see someone who understands the technology and manufacturing process of semiconductors. Equally important was your exploration of the cost issues and their ability to impair the deployment of electronic technologies. Given how bad the situation is, I'm sure they'd spare no expense if such technology offered any viable solution.

          I've only cursory experience in the use of GaAs technology; RF high-gain amplifiers to be more specific. I couldn't say if this technology is robust enough to within high-levels of radiation bombardment. I suppose, anything's better than BiCMOS technologies when it comes to avoiding rad-induced ionization and/or latch-up conditions within the CMOS junctions. So the question becomes, can GaAs withstand high-energy particles? I know they're applying GaAs technology to a wider range of power-control applications; Power Factor Controllers being one example and if I'm correct, MOSFET power switches, as well. But does GaAs lend itself to VLSI solutions? Fab-yields aside, would such minute semiconductor switches be reliable enough to withstand rad-particle bombardment?

          The uninitiated may want to review the following link:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hardening


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    • Jebus Jebus

      Nice segue,

      Promising the muon: Scientists to map Fukushima nuclear hotspots with cosmic radiation

      Japanese scientists say they have successfully completed a pilot program that allows them to use cosmic rays to determine the location of nuclear fuel inside the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant.

      http://rt.com/news/fukushima-muon-nuclear-tepco-102/

      :)


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    • Jebus Jebus

      Does it really matter if we can point to the coriums on a map?

      This has not had enough views…

      Pandora's Poison

      Part 1
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Od_W4tbDHw

      Part 2
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvUd2IppVEc


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    • jec jec

      What happened to the new 'find the core' technology/Xray system in test? Is it like the water system? Broke before used?


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  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    It says in the Japan Today article that Tepco has not given permission for scientists to try to locate the cores. Three years in and still they don't want any help?

    Why would Tepco want to keep everyone away? What were they doing, or what is going on they don't want anyone to know about?


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    • bf9 bf9

      (going to try an html tag just for fun, if applicable forgive my fail)
      <blockquote cite="Why would Tepco want to keep everyone away? What were they doing, or what is going on they don't want anyone to know about?">

      We have a winner! I been coming to the conclusion in the last few months that Daiichi may have been equipping a reactor to produce bombs, with at least R3 already doing so. Would certainly explain almost everything especially if the US had anything to do with it.


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      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

        bf9—-Someone in the military questioned the reason the SFP's were four stories up…someone said this sounds like a loading position for nuclear warheads into submarines. caveat…all hearsay and speculation…but if there are any folks on this site that knows about such things speak up please :-)


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        • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

          I believe that's a design feature of the Mark I reactor.


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          • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

            SykeWar:
            You are quite correct.

            The elevated SFP is a definitive design feature (problem!!) of the GE Mark1 reactor.

            The "military" idea is coming from some one who has
            not studied this topic much at all.

            The problem of an elevated SFP has been a hot topic (no pun intended) in terms of safety for many decades.

            The problem with the nuke apologists is that if an accident
            related to an elevated SFP has not happened, then they feel the option/need to take on an "I told you so" stance on it.

            Not unlike the mind set of the alcoholic who has not been pulled over yet but drives drunk on a daily basis.

            Lack of an accident does not imply safety, yet they will argue just that.


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          • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

            Thanks Syke and fireguyjeff….now I know and will let the person know who mentioned that theory.


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      • humptydumpty

        I think you are getting close to the truth. There were suspicions (I can't remember where or from whom) of a (possibly underground) weapons lab near the Daiichi site, based on the amount of heavy trucks hauling stuff away. Why would they take the risk of refitting the CV casings of R3 and R4 for MOX fuel, for which these reactors were not designed, if not to produce material for the further enrichment of weapons-grade PU?


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  • johnnyo

    ….
    can't find coriums
    they're not where we left them but
    not sure they have moved


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Geee george…do ya tink dey iz down der sumwher?

    Duhhghhh….d…i…s…t…r…a…c…t…i…o…n!

    http://enenews.com/image-published-embassy-japan-shows-fukushima-melted-fuel-deep-underground-photo

    .


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  • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

    Uh, wasn't shooting cosmic rays at an intensive radioactive source how Godzilla was created? :-)

    Muon Tomography
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon_tomography (see fukushima application)
    http://csis.org/images/stories/poni/111007_Cox.pdf
    http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2012/ph241/khan1/


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  • ratpuppy ratpuppy

    I am guessing the cores can't be in a "Happy Fun" place, or TEPCO would be claiming they were totally contained.

    Maybe if all affected governments downwind or across the ocean started charging trade tariffs on Japanese imports to recover cleanup, damage and medical costs incurred, would Japan start getting serious about dealing with their deadly nuclear poison.

    Only when we hit these callous and criminally negligent corporations in the bottom line, will they care at all about their responsibilities.

    Then we can see how far they get trying to tell their shareholders that there is nothing for them to worry about…


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  • GOM GOM

    This is some weird form of PSYOP crap. Make it seem like they 'don't know but they are trying'..So when the whole thing blows sky high and comes back down into it's own crater, people will remember 'they looked for it'… I can hear it now: "Well, you have to give them credit, they did look for the cores". What a circus.


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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    Did they check under the table for that core?

    I lost Jack there the other day.

    He just sorta rolled under…

    If it wasn't for his mutated nose,

    catchin' on the metal grate,

    he'd be down the air duct,

    all dryed up and shriveled.


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  • American Phoenix57

    "The number of children and grandchildren with cancer in their bones, with leukemia in their blood, or with poison in their lungs might seem statistically small to some, in comparison with natural health hazards. But this is not a natural health hazard-and it is not a statistical issue. The loss of even one human life, or the malformation of even one baby-who may be born long after all of us have gone-should be of concern to us all. Our children and grandchildren are not merely statistics towards which we can be indifferent." – President John F. Kennedy, July 27th 1963 Radio and Television Address to the American People


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  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    I guess Fukushima Daiichi is Japan's Affordable Care Act. Bungling corporations and governments. Perhaps if any entity composed of humans becomes too large it begins to freeze up and do bizarre things. The large banks who took a criminal turn. The US gov which consistently screws up as with Fast and Furious and Benghazi. Now Japan is having its go at incompetence. England is certainly turning into a mess. France. China will soon have its turn. What will things look like in ten years? Black karma.


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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    "We are ready to use it at the Fukushima No. 1 plant if Tepco cooperates."

    if TEPCO cooperates? if???

    Strong arm help here please…

    It's really not up to you…TEPCO, to tell us what you won't allow. You see…we all here at ENE have basically demoted you to head porta-pottie cleaner, on the next boat out of here heading your way.

    Sometimes this old heal draggin gets old TEPCO…real OLD.


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  • SadieDog

    This is dedicated to TEPCO , GE or whatever arm of this monster you wish – "one" , U2

    Is it getting better?
    Or do you feel the same?
    Will it make it easier on you now?
    You got someone to blame

    You say, one love, one life
    When it's one need in the night
    One love, we get to share it
    Leaves you baby if you don't care for it

    Did I disappoint you?
    Or leave a bad taste in your mouth?
    You act like you never had love
    And you want me to go without

    Well it's too late tonight
    To drag the past out into the light
    We're one but we're not the same
    We get to carry each other, carry each other
    One!

    Have you come here for forgiveness?
    Have you come to raise the dead?
    Have you come here to play Jesus?
    To the lepers in your head

    Did I ask too much? More than a lot
    You gave me nothin' now it's all I got
    We're one but we're not the same
    Well we hurt each other then we do it again

    You say love is a temple, love a higher law
    Love is a temple, love the higher law
    You ask me to enter but then you make me crawl
    And I can't be holdin' on to what you got
    When all you got is hurt

    One love, one blood
    One life, you got to do what you should
    One life, with each other
    Sisters, brothers

    One life but we're not the same
    We get to carry each other, carry each other
    One


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  • jackassrig

    "where some fear that fuel has melted through containment vessels and possibly into the ground underneath." GD I'll tired of hearing that tripe. Before anything will happan, the Depublicians are going to have to be replaced with dead beats that are not as bad as the deader than dead beats that in the Congress now that will address this issue.


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  • I'm just guessing.

    Where are those cores?

    - Unit 1's blew up and down.
    - Unit 2's went straight through the bottom and did not blow up the building.
    - Unit 3's went sky high.

    All reactors were built over an underground river… Who let that detail slip though?

    Fact:
    We now know for certain that containment vessels can be breached.


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  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    Now radiation does have a competitor in GMO's. Please do not under-estimate the capacity of these engineering marvels to slay us before radiation gets a chance. I am not a betting man so I will leave it at that. These GMO's allow for the usage of very toxic pesticides and herbicides.
    Now given this situation it becomes easier to see why for the international community Fukushima is no big thing. There are other big things rolling along that have profit making potential whereas the nuclear matter is simply a loss.
    When money is involved the human being has a tendency to cast caution to the winds!


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    • lavender lavender

      One issue with GMOs is that when companies modify the food genetically, the proteins can become toxic to organs. there is no testing done that proves their safety. The most common GMOs are beet sugar, soy, corn, canola oil, and GMOs hide in many of the common preservatives/food additives. wheat is not currently GMO, however the GMO foods often cause an impaired 'gut', which can cause foods like wheat to be more inflammatory/reactive than they would be on a non-GMO diet.

      I do not consume GMOs,I am more concerned about radiation. GMOs are still easy to avoid, in comparison to nuclear energy.


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      • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

        Be careful. The GMO spread into organic foods as well. The pesticides get into the water, meat, etc. No, I think the contest is about even. In any case my point was that if the Dept. Of Ag. is this insensitive to human life, why should we ever expect them to take care regarding nuclear power plants or the spread of radiation from Fukushima. We shouldn't; and they won't. There are over thirteen hundred papers from experts warning about GMO's. There are almost none regarding Fukushima. Fukushima is almost a none issue.


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        • lavender lavender

          GMO (genetically modified organisms) are very different than pesticides. it is true that organic food has pesticides, just not as prevalent as food grown -with- pesticides.

          I agree with you- most other countries have banned GMO's, or at the very least labels them, but the USA lobbies to keep them _not even labeled_. We just lost a fight in Washington state to label them- but that's another story.


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          • Shaker1

            Maybe not the same exact story, but like porn the outline of the propaganda in the Washington initiative on GMO labels was the same:

            An former state's attorney, a law 'expert' with claims that the language is of the initiative is poor and confusing, and because of compromise exclusions, is flawed and therefore not worthy of passing.

            A woman in ads on TV claiming she's a scientist and a farmer, while never qualifying what she grows, nor of what scientific discipline she's schooled. She could have been a physicist who grows alfalfa for lawn seed.

            Or claims of the 'expense' of labels that preys upon the ignorance of the general public concerning current food processing. For instance, a farmer KNOWS he grows GM, and its simply a matter of passing the paperwork to the next in line. And a greater part of processing is done by independents despite what the brand name the label bears. I did part time maintenance at a processing plant. They produced for a number of brands, and changing boxes/labels, could be done a number of times in a day according to invoice.

            The common factor is preying upon ignorance as in 'ignore', and the general public makes all kinds of claims of concern, yet doesn't take the time to apply 3rd grade reasoning to the argument. Is nuclear much different?


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  • mairs mairs

    So they knew this a few days after the accident started. They've taken three years to break it to us gradually.


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  • atomicistheword

    Einstein — 'Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.'

    What a transformation, it must be burning them up that we're finally getting something free from them. How many lifeboats do they need before they sink us all?

    Rocketdyne
    SL1
    3 mile
    Windscale
    Chernobyl
    Fukushima
    +++

    Atomic power production is unsafe, PROVEN unsafe, dirty and polluting.


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  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    Here is someone to listen to: Dr Don Hubert, expert in plant pathology, and even with a background in radiation effects on plants . . .Kauai – Dr. Don Huber – GMO Crop Pathogen and Infertility – Glyphosate Pesticide Dangers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jkQzaCaFsY

    I am sure the blase attitude of the US gov has to do with the fact that they know we are getting poisoned anyway. There are plenty of scientists that know about what is going on but have to remain silent or lose their jobs.
    Currently lots of livestock loss. So we have a weakened animal and human life now forced to deal with radiation. It won't take much.


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  • American Phoenix57

    A person who inhales just a few milligrams of plutonium — a barely visible speck — will die in a matter of months due to massive fibrosis of the lungs as delicate lung tissues, bombarded by alpha radiation, develop scar tissue , choking off oxygen to the blood. Death follows from a kind of internal asphyxiation.

    A person inhaling a few micrograms of plutonium — 1/1000th of the amount described in the above paragraph — is likely to develop fatal lung cancer 10 to 20 years after exposure, as some of the cells damaged by alpha radiation begin to multiply uncontrollably.
    - Gordon Edwards, Ph.D., is a mathematician, a consultant, and an activist. He teaches mathematics at Vanier College in Montreal, has acted as a consultant for governmental and non-governmental agencies across Canada, and is President of the Canadian Coalition for Nuclear Responsibility. He and his group actively support the Campaign for Nuclear Phaseout.

    West Coast Radiation Induced Pneumonia (RIP) is likely to be blamed on the H1N1 flu. Cover up begins in earnest this year.

    "All those who died were between 18 and 64 years old, underscoring how the H1N1 flu virus prevalent this year is unusual in that it has not struck the very young or the very old, populations typically seen as most vulnerable to severe influenza."

    http://www.sacbee.com/2014/01/22/6092930/sacramento-countys-flu-deaths.html#storylink=cpy

    http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/01/22/3726620/four-new-flu-related-deaths-in


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    • American Phoenix57

      "In current thinking, the best way to wage war is to wage it without your enemy even being aware that it is happening. If, for example, you can control the weather so as to ensure poor crops for your enemy and good ones for yourself, in the course of years you will gradually improve the position of your country relative to his. Then perhaps you could quietly introduce a few crop diseases –nothing dramatic which would lead to suspicion, just a slight rise here and there apparently from some natural cause.

      And why stop at plant or stock diseases? Some minor human epidemics might help. Even the common cold keeps people away from work. It might be ten years or more before it dawned on the health authorities that they were really being too unlucky with minor illnesses.

      Meanwhile you inflate your own statistics a little, to avoid odious comparisons. And, of course, this is merely the biological side. Industrial disputes, insurance losses, the draining away of brain-power, and a thousand other things will help to undermine the strength of a country. Even a narrow-minded regime, an obfuscating religion, can prevent a country’s progress. And who knows whether this is just a speculation? Perhaps there are nations consciously waging this kind of warfare now.


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    • lavender lavender

      Why are you linking H1N1 to a west coast radiation pneumonia coverup?

      I have heard from nurses in some of the H1N1 hot spots, which aren't on the west coast. They are reporting H1N1 flu deaths in some of the most healthy 30-50 year olds due to a cycline(sp?) storm type immune reaction.


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  • American Phoenix57

    cont'd. . .

    …Or perhaps actual gene warfare. If viruses can be used to carry new genetic material into cells, perhaps one could tamper with the genes of another nation without their ever realizing the fact. History would simply record, as it has so often in the past, that such-an-such a nation rose to power while certain other countries entered a decline."
    - Gordon Rattray Taylor, Excerpt from “The Biological Time Bomb”, author Gordon Rattray Taylor, copyright 1968 [page 184].

    "… the only safe vaccine is one that is never used."
    - Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the US National Institute of Health.


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  • American Phoenix57

    "The H1N1 vaccination program, when put into the same frame as the engineered virus to go with it, appears to be a clear effort to divide humanity into two groups; those who have lost their intellect, health and sexuality via a tainted vaccination, and those who have not and are therefore superior."
    - Dr. Sarah Stone, Pharm-D


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  • SpeakEZ SpeakEZ

    Some enenewsers have mentioned this before: given the porous nature of the ground beneath the Diiachi site and the amount of ground water flowing through it (recall this site is a natural runoff for water flowing from the higher mountainous terrain toward the ocean), it is quite possible that the coria are no longer in three distinct "blobs" (one for each of the rectors that experienced a meltdown) but rather have flowed in a "finger-like" formation as they penetrated the ground, spreading out through various "nooks and crannies." This is uncharted territory (no pun intended) in that there have been no studies or experiments to definitively predict the flow and behavior of coria in such a scenario. Regardless, whether the coria have merged into a single large blob, remained as three separate blobs or spread out like lava tentacles, they will never be recovered or contained. Elvis has truly left the building!


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    • humptydumpty

      While the flows of coria through porous earth strata have not been studied, lava flows have been studied quite extensively and it stands to reason they should be somewhat analogous. I think you're right, it's very unlikely the coria have remained in blobs.

      But that doesn't mean they can't be located, which should be the first step toward developing a containment/removal plan. I suspect they already know removal would be enormously difficult and expensive to do, so they're just pretending they don't know where they are and have no way of finding out. More lies.


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      • Toadmac

        I'll just add to your theory a little……….
        Lava is a liquid at temperatures from 700 to 1,200°C.
        The coria you speak of is 2000°C+. Some experiments have calculated corium can reach over 4000°C.
        My conclusion from the vast temperature differences would be more vertical movement than horizontal? I think coria would tend to cake the rock around it much the same way red hot steel would act on a sheet of ice?
        Just my 2 cents worth and am only guessing?


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        • Toadmac

          Uranium dioxide or uranium oxide-Melting point: 2,865°C
          Zircaloy-Melting point: 1,850°C. Flaking through oxidization can also occur which in turn can cause ignition of zircaloy (fire).
          Once these temperatures are reached adding water only causes more problems through the separation of H2O into Oxegen & Hydrogen (BOOM).
          Lets put this blob on the floor of there "Containment building" which is there last line of defense before it becomes a much bigger issue.
          Lets give the containment the best deal and set our blob at 1,850°C (2,500+ is more likely). Our containment concrete (our last line of defense) has a melting point of around 1,100°C.
          1,850 – 1,100°C = +750°C hotter than containment failure!!! Even given the best case scenario, China syndrome is guaranteed after 100% coolant loss within hours to days!!!
          I thought these nuclear dudes were smart??????


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          • Shaker1

            Toadmac, I think that your ideas are a good as any. First of all, at 1850C, the energy required to chemically separate a water molecule is present. My experience with molten metals, zirconium included, tells me that 'blobs' will form a cooler skin which will change its mobility. Actually, my thoughts concerning the water injections especially when they realized melt had occured were attempts to change the mobility of the mass as well as to try to cool any component that might become part of the blob. The mass may have had/has some potential for explosive criticality, but I would question whether water will do much to compromise that potential and from what I understand (and my understanding is limited) that potential is not dependent upon the heat, but the structural configuration. I think the Soviets at Chernobyl have what they have and it may be different because of the massive amounts of sand (and everything but the kitchen sink) that they dumped into the mix. They actually added to the mass, which is likely not a bad thing as that then increases its surface area for cooling and skinning as well as its physical flow characteristics. My personal thoughts (unqualified) are that the corium outside of containment will rather quickly accrete material to stop its flow downward. How far down is another question. I would question 'fingers' of molten material myself.


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            • Shaker1

              There's another thing that I don't believe that is seriously considered on this site. Please understand that what I'm writing is not a comment claiming some deficiency of this site nor the site's irrelevance. But one thing sorely lacking is a mention of the corium's volume while we speak of weight all the time. That issue volume/weight has been discussed in relation to water figures Tepco publishes, so I'll use that in comparison to make my point. Understand, too, that I'm just offering in this example an item that may be only somewhat applicable to this situation, that it's just for some visualization of size. The figure and calculations themselves might be open to mistake or criticism, but I might hold that the purpose intended may be served anyway if the mathematics are somewhat correct.

              Tepco has floated all kinds of water figures, but I'm going to use 400T, and I used an American ton in my figures. Anyway, 400T of water is a cube approximately 23.5 ft3. One can imagine that as a small 2-story American house. Concerning the coriums, while no citing any published figures but just for this example, 400T of uranium is only about 8.82 ft3, about the size of a small room. Now, the corium is going to be all kinds of materials, so I would guess its somewhat larger, but say its 15 ft3. There is simply only so much to go around. Not trying to diminish its danger or radioactive potential. I'm just try to give one an idea of what 'hole in ground' one might be…


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              • Shaker1

                Sorry, I have to ammend the above comment somewhat. It should read that 400T of uranium is a CUBE 8.82 feet per side, not 8.82 ft3. The same for the water, which is a cube 23.5 feet per side, not 23.5ft3. Forgive me. I think the point is the same, and the visualizations of a small American house and a small room are still correct.


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    • Toadmac

      SpeakEZ "one for each of the rectors that experienced a meltdown"
      Something I would like to add to this.

      The loss of cooling water at 3 reactors…..

      An evacuation order was issued to the people living within 3 kilometres of the plant and then expanded to 10 km…..

      Smoke reported coming from the plant weeks later…….

      Approximately 3,000 tons of water in the basements was found to contain radioactive substances, and Japan's Fisheries Agency refused permission to release that water back into the ocean….

      On December 26, 2011, the nuclear emergency declaration was officially cancelled but an evacuation and no fly zone still remains….

      This is Fukushima DAINI nuclear power plant NOT Daiichi!!
      I'm not suggesting that TEPCO or the Japanese government would lie about or downplay a nuclear accident….


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  • American Phoenix57

    If you really want to survive Fukushima radiation don't get vaccinated, don't drink fluoridated water, don't eat GMO foods, don't get mercury /silver fillings, don't get root canals, don't put cell phones to your head, don't put laptops on your lap, don't use compact fluorescent bulbs, don't get CAT scans, don't put your boobs in an X-ray machine, don't take pharmaceutical drugs, don't live near cell towers, don't live near power plants, don't sleep next to a "smart meter" and opt out at the airport and you'll be fine.


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    • Jebus Jebus

      You missed the unlimited nanoparticle sized short and long lived radionuclide particles in a multitude of flavors continously accumulating in our air, water, and food.
      Gonna have to skip those too…

      And no, I'm not going to avoid boobs!


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    • Mark Wonclunker

      What is wrong with root canals?


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      • lavender lavender

        weston price used to say root canals were bad, however technology was not as advanced in his time. I have 2 root canals. I'm pretty much stuck with them.


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        • lavender lavender

          that has been debunked. how many people have root canals? most everyone.


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            • lavender lavender

              here is one, but please do your own research. I spoke to my own dentist about it who I trust. root canals can get infected; but generally you would know it.

              http://www.dentalcomfortzone.com/story.php?aid=216


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              • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                It apparently has been studied and shown that it's not a 100% safe since the pulp chamber can't be sterilized 100%. Anaerobic bacteria reside in microscopic tubules which can't be removed through any dental process. Evidently this bacteria can produce toxins which may find their way into the blood stream. I'm not a doctor or dentist.

                http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2639870


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                • artika rama

                  sykewar Thats correct but we shouldnt forget that THE REASON one needs a root canal is that THE WHOLE CANAL was filled with millions and millions of bacteria ..
                  SO root canal should ONLY be doen when you allready have many bacteria in the canal ,, to open the cnals ,, clean them the best way possible and fill them up with somehting so the infection will be minimized and our immune system can dela with it ..
                  but allways ,, there are bacteria in every root canal treatment


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                  • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                    Root canals are also done to fit a partial bridge. This can't be done with "live" teeth as anchors.


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                    • artika rama

                      sykewar Well , it depends syke ,,only if the teeth is MOVED too much that they cant build it in a decent way ,, but it is actually possible to use vital teeth as anchors and usually it is even a better choice ,, but there is the risk it can cause hypersensitivity unless done by a good dentist in a decnt way ,, so i think usually they just dont want to take the risk and remove the nerve anyway ,,


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                  • Mark Wonclunker

                    artika rama:
                    Root canals are also done to deal with problems arising from gum recession.

                    If it was suggested to you that you should have a root canal, presumably you would refuse. What would you do instead?


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                    • artika rama

                      mark Thats not true ,, root canals are onlt done when infection gets INTO thye canal ,, the gum disease can be the CAUSE ,, or the ROUTE of the infection getting into the canal but gum disease alone is not reason to do root canal treatment . Its something else called PERIODONTAL treatment,, NOT root canal ,, (ps i am sorry i have to say this each time but muy caps locks are not meant as ranting or anything :) i ma just using caps lock in the old fasjhioned way ,, just making sure the points are made :) sometimes people even ask why i get angry ,m, i am absolutely no :)


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                    • artika rama

                      OMG i didnt spell check ,, what a terrible message :( shall i type it again ? sorry :)


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                • artika rama

                  sykewar Thats correct ,, its never 100% safe ,, its just not possible to do a treatment in somebodies mouth and keep it totally bacteria free IMO,, its an illusion ,, and in that sense that paper is totally correct .


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              • artika rama

                lavender Root canals are ALLWAYS infected ,, there is no way any dentist can fill up a canal under sterile conditions ,, i am sure any dr here would agree with me on this .. so there is allways some bacteria carried into the canal with the canal fillings .
                In the end THAT infection turns into an abcess and thats the end of the canal treatment .


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              • artika rama

                lavender It not possible to feel anything happening in the cnalas cause there is no nerve in them ,, infact thats the canal filling ,, its put in place where the nerve WAS ,,
                You can feel it in late stages ,, when the infection ruins out of the tip of the canal and gets into the bone / tissue .


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        • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

          The point of all this,radiation,GMO's. etc. is the degradation of the human species. For example one in fifty children with autism. It is used to be rare. Predicted by 2025 it will be one out of every two. Vast increase in people diagnosed with a mental disorder and put on very dangerous drugs. People are always sick now. This was not true prior to 1960 or so. The SAT's after that had to be made easier. Education has been downgraded. That should be obvious to all of us. No matter the scandal whether the official reports of 9/11 totally debunked, Benghazi, the NSA spying, falsified weapons of mass destruction in Iraq . . . nothing happens. The banks steal vast sums. No one goes on trial. I think it obvious that the voice and will of the people mean practically nothing. The laws are null and void for the powerful. To actually take steps regarding Fukushima would mess with some power elite element. So it is simply not a problem. Perhaps because we missed those 35 childhood vaccinations we are too touchy and imaginative? For relief drink some diet soda and put on a few pounds.:)


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          • If we measure the damage done by Fukushima by the genetic disease and mutations of ourselves and our first generation offspring, then it's possible that we'd see damage of equal magnitude caused by gmos and toxic pesticides and herbicides.

            But the human gnome is so much more than just what we see. For every gene that is dominant, having obvious effect on an organism's viability, there are many recessive genes that also have been damaged, but this is damage that won't show up for generations. Fukushima radiation is now corrupting all of this. It's attacking our dominant and recessive genes, and the genes of our children. Children who will reproduce. Genes from which our progeny inherit our physical traits, our instincts, our personality.

            But it's not just attacking humans, it's attacking all life forms' gnomes. Animals, insects, trees, mushrooms, everything.

            Deformities, genetic diseases, and even corrupted instinctual behavior are all likely to increase. Imagine a tree that grows away from the sunlight instead of toward it. Imagine birds who do learn to fly.

            Now imagine a further gnome corruption with each successive generation of all life forms on earth, from now until eternity. How do we know how to breathe? It's instinctual behavior, subject to change, subject to damage, in the offspring of all living things on earth.


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            • Socrates

              The code breakers are work from every angle.

              Future generations are affected through epigenetic alone. Rat offspring can be adverse to an odor experienced by a parent rat if that odor is paired with a very traumatic event.

              Mankind is tinkering with a genetic code that he does not understand. Chemicals and ionizing radiation combined at low but continuous levels will change behavior, immunity, cellular signaling, mutations, cancer rates, fertility.

              Madame Curie found out the hard way. We developed these chemicals and ionizing radiation before the double-helix!

              Today, so much more is known to science but ignored by governments and industry, that we will wipe out the codes of life, or severely downgrade our genome.


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          • If we measure the damage done by Fukushima by the genetic disease and mutations of ourselves and our first generation offspring, then it's possible that we'd see damage of equal magnitude caused by gmos and toxic pesticides and herbicides.

            But the human gnome is so much more than just what we see. For every gene that is dominant, having obvious effect on an organism's viability, there are many recessive genes that also have been damaged, but this is damage that won't show up for generations. Fukushima radiation is now slowly corrupting all of this. It's attacking our dominant and recessive genes, and the genes of our children. Children who will reproduce. Genes from which our progeny inherit our physical traits, our instincts, our personality.

            But it's not just attacking humans, it's attacking all life forms' gnomes. Animals, insects, trees, mushrooms, everything.

            Deformities, genetic diseases, and even corrupted instinctual behavior are all likely to increase. Imagine a tree that grows away from the sunlight instead of toward it. Imagine birds who never learn to fly.

            Now imagine a further gnome corruption with each successive generation of all life forms on earth, from now until eternity. How do we know how to breathe? It's instinctual behavior, subject to change, subject to damage, in the offspring of all living things on earth.


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            • Admiral Rickover, in 1982:

              "Until about two billion years ago, it was impossible to have any life on earth; that is, there was so much radiation on earth you couldn't have any life—fish or anything. Gradually, about two billion years ago, the amount of radiation on this planet—and probably in the entire system—reduced and made it possible for some form of life to begin…"

              So, what's another two billion years, give or take?


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          • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

            "Predicted by 2025 it will be one out of every two"

            Just shows you how much "bad karma" will follow you along the road for quite some time.


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        • artika rama

          syke Thanks syke i just checked the link . I am not 100% oke with it . SOme good info but also a lot of misinfo .
          He presents the root canal treament as bringing / causing an infection and creating breeding ground for bacteria but he doesnt mention that before the treratment the whole necrotic empty canaal was actuall where those bacteria were in miiolns .
          He say extraction is a good option ,, but he doesnt mention that synthetis polymers in the dentures etc are much more harmfull and carcenogeneous than the root canaal tretment itself,,
          He has Sme good info about the link between teeth problems and arthritis heart diseasse etc ,, very true , most people just consider their teeth as an esthetic issue and forget how important a healthy mouth is .
          I wpould say i like the article 50/50 :)


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      • American Phoenix57

        Root canals contain deadly poisonous mycotoxic anaerobic (need no oxygen) bacteria that have been traced to the most degenerative chronic diseases afflicting modern man in the last hundred years. – Lower IQ, Arthritis, Tumors, Cancers, Neurological, Immunological and Chronic Diseases.

        Google it. Go to the Weston Price Foundation and read the fascinating research spanning a century. Dead teeth have no blood supply so the become festering incubators of some on natures most toxic bacteria poop which depending on your immune system slowly infects (through microscopic cracks in the root canal) other organs in the body. I had mine replaced with ceramic (not titanium) implants by a biological dentist and my energy levels shot through the roof. This is one of Dentistry's dark little secrets along with fluoride and amalgams that thanks to the internet is now starting to come to light.


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        • Mark Wonclunker

          My root canals are filled with a silicone-type compound, and topped off with a gold crown. They are excellent. They are sterile and have no bacteria. None have ever given any trouble.

          The best condition for an old, gum receded tooth can be a root-cannelled gold-crowned tooth, which needs no further maintenance for the rest of your life.

          I am very pleased with mine, and acquire new ones whenever appropriate. Most of my molars and pre-molars are done like this.


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          • lavender lavender

            Thanks for chiming in. I have yet to see any recent scientific studies showing a link between root canals in disease.


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          • artika rama

            mark All root canals are temporary ,, you dont see it but there is allways an infection underneath it ,, you dont feel it cause there is no nerve = no feeling . But they all fail in the end .
            The best is ofcourse not to need one but if you do a gutta percha filling is the best option . Its produced from a tropical plant , totally natural .
            Gold is an excellent choice as a crown .


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            • Mark Wonclunker

              artika rama says "All root canals are temporary".

              My oldest one is 47 years and going strong. All my more recent ones are intended as permanent and are obviously so. Once you have a root canal, do you ever change it? What would you change it for?

              I think it is time to "agree to differ" and move on.


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              • artika rama

                mark :) not necessarily mark , 47 years old root canal is most probably NOT oke ,, but you dont know it ,,you dont feel it ,,
                maybe you should ask your doctor/ dentist if there were any bacteria underneath or in it . WHen was the last time you had a rx of that tooth ?
                I think we are going waaaay off topic here so i will try to keep it short .
                There is no nerve in that tooth ,, so you dont feel anything .
                neither there are any nerves IN THE jaw bone.
                When you start having problems with your root canal it usually is the last treatment for that tooth and the next option is USUALLY to remove it .
                In extreme cases you can RE-DO a root canal treatment but mostly when it fails its the end of the stroy .
                Unfortunately all root canals fail .
                In any case if you have it for 47 years then you must be very lucky .
                I would suggest you check out the link syke gave about the health problems with root canal treatments .
                Just because you dont feel anything doesnt mean its oke ,, it just means the nerve is removed so no nerve no feeling ,, its a dead tooth ,, cant feel anything .


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        • artika rama

          american phoenix Root canals are not the cause of those infection but the treatment choice for those infections. Its true that when a caries gets bigger and bigger it finally reached the pulpa and nerve dies and all those nasty bacteria have the time of their lives but NOT treating it can have much worse complications .
          Amalgam is nasty
          fluoride can be nsaty unless used properly


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      • artika rama

        PS nothing wrong with the root canals ,, its the amalgam in the old fashioned metal fillings that is the problem . Its a mixture of lead and mercury ,, one more poisonous than the other.


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  • tsfw tsfw

    Isn't the purpose of a root canal to remove the dead matter from an already damaged tooth to prevent bacterial infection?


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    • tsfw tsfw

      Sorry I didn't see the above links until after I posted–

      "Dr. Price, while head of research for the now-defunct National Dental Association, took one thousand extracted teeth and reamed them out as dentists normally do, prior to filling the canals with wax. Price sterilized the canals with forty different chemicals far too toxic to be used in a live human situation; he wanted to see whether the canals could be permanently sterilized. After forty-eight hours, each tooth was broken apart, and cultured for the presence of bacteria. Nine hundred ninety out of one thousand cultured toxic bacteria just two days after treatment with chemicals designed to make the tooth sterile. Where did these bacteria come from?"

      That is disgusting, I have two root canals- something else to worry about that I can't change wahooo this just keeps getting better. But knowledge is power, thanks for sharing. At the rate Fuku is going, our fake teeth will be the only teeth we have left in 20 years so might as well embrace em!


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      • lavender lavender

        Try not to get too stressed out. I have 2 root canals too. Speak to a dentist you trust, OR, try to find any studies preformed by anyone other than Weston price on this matter before you draw conclusions.


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        • Mark Wonclunker

          It's best to get the latest silicone type. The old way was to fill the root with amalgam, and I have still got 2 of those. The new way is better. [You can always check you have got a silicone one because it doesn't show up on you whole-mouth X-ray like the amalgam ones do.]


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          • artika rama

            mark wonclunker I think the best one is the plant based one mark . Its gutta percha and its better biocompatible . Amalgam is the worst ,, never let any dentist put any amalgam in your motuh ,,, it is even forbiden in many countries in europe.
            Its so toxic you cant even throw it in the dustbin ,, shoudlnt be in anyones mouth .


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      • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

        We can not live a medically perfect life; nor always have wonderful food. Consider Alexandra Solzhenitsyn–a gulag is not a nice place. And yet he survived and wrote powerful books and die at an advanced age. It is not one or two mistakes that destroys a person. We are build better than that. And we know very little about the human body. Very little about anything. Sure, if you have the money and interest take care of your teeth. But your life is more than root canals. Given the twists and turns of society we may have some very hard times to go through. Survival will not be based solely on perfect hygiene. It will come from a deeper place. Worry is a serious problem. So is anxiety. There are all kinds of herbs. Who knows but that if you need one it will present itself. Magically almost. The world is a dream like the other dreams only a bit harder to wake from.


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      • artika rama

        tsfw Root canals are not for removing toxic substances but for the treatment of an infection that has gone deep till the nerve in the teeth . There are allways bacteria in the canals no matter how well the dentist can prepare it and sooner or later the canal filling fails usually with an abcess at the end of the root .
        Those bacteria are usually amongst the same ones that you can find in your mouth ,, and are brought in with the viles and filling material ,,but because the environment of the canal is changed some species have the upper hand so you see more of one type (eg anaerobes) than the other .
        Basically no root canal is totally sterile ,,and every root canal is temporary ,, even if it would last for years.
        And it is the one of the most hated treatments ,, at least for me ;)


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  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    Each of is at the end of an extremely successful family and whatever preceded that. What did our ancestors go through? Solar flares, encounters with huge bits of rock from outer space, no doubt large doses of radiation from something, disease, war, accidents, fire, flood, famine . . . we art talking hundreds of thousands of years, millions of years. One fatality along the line, and the chain is broken. What incredible luck. But we always had mother nature to fall back on. Has science and technology undermined her now? I think we will have other nuclear power plants go down. Inevitable. How much can we take? The genetic engineering is a mistake. A terrible one. How long before it knocks out too much of the vegetation on the planet. And in the meantime the experimenting on people. How far will that go before we have almost universal sterility? Or worse, some kind of frightening degeneracy?
    Fukushima is the current alert. Others will come. The governments will not act. TEPCO is an arch bungler. They will make it worse.
    The governments and corporations are the Monsters of the post modern age. A grotesque fascism is rising.


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  • American Phoenix57

    "The Truth, when you finally chase it down, is almost always far worse than your darkest visions and fears."
    - Hunter S. Thompson, Kingdom of Fear; pg. 220.

    If your are one of those people that just has to know the truth no matter what then watch these videos on YT:

    60 minutes – Is there Poison in Your Mouth,
    BBC Panorama – Poison in the mouth,
    Amalgam fillings in your mouth are poisoning you part 1, Quecksilber – The Strange Story of Dental Amalgams,
    Rooted, University of Calgary – How Mercury Causes Neurodegeneration,
    Mercury Autism,
    The Mercury Amalgam Conspiracy.

    Then surf here:

    Holistic Dental Association, http://www.holisticdental.org/

    International Academy of Biological Dentistry and Medicine, http://iabdm.org/

    Campaign for Mercury Free Dentistry, http://www.toxicteeth.org/

    Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation, http://ppnf.org/

    Good Luck on your journey down one of the rabbit holes darkest side tunnels. Bring a flashlight.

    "The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it."
    - Joseph Mengele, conductor of Nazi medical experiments.


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  • Ontological Ontological

    Number 3 core/pool is most likely is in the air. That was a pretty bad vector thrust. 11 months after skull cancer, to read this spin is getting old. Round 'n round they go where they will stop nobody knows. And don't worry about your teeth. Soon there will be nothing safe to sink them into. I lost 40% of mine, don't need them, red meat was never an option, and won't be. Lost 70+ pounds, but I know from not eating much, I am better off not metabolizing environmental crap. I see the damage when were forced to have to go out to restock needs. Afraid to breath now, my long walks a thing of the past; the constant pain wasn't/isn't worth it, for this mindless way dealing with but one of many very stupid mistakes these idiots are making under the guise of making money. The world now slowly dies, and the rock flock parties on. When we have starved to death. There too will be full of the ectoplasmic remains of these idiots that have no clue. Even the afterlife is looking pretty bad. Thanks GE for the damage "bringing good things to life" can do. Fear drove you to this decision to hide the Mark One flaws, fear will now drive you down the tunnel to Hell. What you people did to Vermont with your jet engine test, and that GOD DAMMED burp gun is unforgivable! Now the WHOLE frigging WORLD ecosystem is dyeing . Shame on you money grubbing shills, shame.


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    • humptydumpty

      Ontological, your plight is very sad to hear, and even sadder is the fact that few can even hear the truth of what you're saying. The clueless people around us are not malevolent (most of them), just programmed to trust their "betters" and follow the path of least resistance. They have been deceived.

      But remember not to condemn the sinner but rather the sin. I am not a religious person, but I think there is wisdom in that moral.

      The motivations of those who pursue wealth above all else, and without limits, are encouraged by the prevailing institutions and rituals of life all around us. The resulting IMMORALITY caused by greed is manifest in many aspects of the social structures we are all bound by, so we are all complicit in one way or another.

      The vast majority has little or no control over policies that keep it enslaved, and is subject to deprivation if it does not comply. This has been a dominant theme throughout history, and while there have been uprisings and movements that restrained those oppressors, the domination of the few over the many has been ubiquitous.

      There is a basic flaw in the human psyche that has been magnified by technology. The power to do good or evil increases with man's control over natural processes. The storm that has been unleashed will determine whether our species can eradicate that flaw or whether it will be fatal.

      Nobody wants to suffer. All I can suggest to you is to find ways to alleviate your suffering. Be good to…


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  • zogerke zogerke

    on topic now. WHY would not a HEAT SIGNATURE reveal where the cores are, and burning blobs? Or is it that it would not reveal depth? but would reveal gps location?


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  • Nick

    On 3/10/11 I asked my boys if they had seen the China Syndrome ……no they hadn't.

    I explained movie, referenced "an area the size of Pennsylvania" and that led to You-Tubing TMI and discussing what terror I felt. I was in Washington State when TMI's inner core melted (and dusted) but much of my family was downwind.
    I distinctly remember telling them that no nuclear accident (especially Chernobyl) was okay, that the assault on the earth's biosphere is cumulative. We also talked about fallout from the 100s of atmospheric and underground tests (which also are atmospheric !).

    Then 3/11…..

    To this day I am still haunted. I did not predict Fukushima, but I was always scared that something like it on the scale of it might happen.

    It did.

    No spin can erase this horror.

    Knowing that Fukushima is everywhere is scary enough forever.

    We need to realize this reality. Everything else is fantasy.


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  • Socrates

    Mitochondrial DNA is inherited much more directly than "normal" or nuclear DNA – and damage is more likely to be permanent. Unlike nuclear DNA, Mitochondrial DNA is NOT recreated every generation from DNA strands of two different people, with the opportunity that gives for repair. Mitochondrial dial DNA is inherited directly from the mother, and then replicated trillions of times, and then one cell's mitochondrial DNA is passed on to the next generation…

    Mitochondrial DNA is not as protected within the individual cell as is nuclear DNA…. Mitochondrial DNA is the 'workhorse DNA of the cell, while nuclear DNA is mainly for reproduction. Mitochondrial DNA is responsible for much of the activities of the cell…."

    Reactive oxygen species are "super" free-radicals caused by low levels of ionizing radiation, especially if given continuously or in "priming doses."

    These effects and others are published in the National Cancer Database.

    Fukushima is a prime example of a Code Killer. The administration of time – release ionizing g radiation is called a "dirty bomb." This is what we were told the "terrorists" would use against us. Well, they did.

    An expose' of the nuclear industry unfolds right across the Pacific.


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  • weeman

    Wait a minute a high particle accelerator, I need help here but don't accelerators fire matter at said object, I don't know if I like that idea, are you not adding fire to the mix. m=E.


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