AFP: Steaming Fukushima reactor is ‘baffling’ — Tepco: We still don’t know what caused it and are currently investigating

Published: July 19th, 2013 at 2:03 pm ET
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AFP, July 19, 2013: Fukushima steam still baffling: TEPCO [...] The operator of Japan’s crippled Fukushima nuclear plant said Friday it still did not know what caused steam seen inside a reactor building, nor why it was no longer there. [...] The company said it was looking at the possibility that accumulated rainwater had been the cause, but admitted Friday it still did not know for sure. [... Tepco] said the steam did not contain an abnormally high level of radiation. “We still don’t know what caused the steam and are currently investigating,” said a spokesman. [...]

See also: Alarm as steam rises from Fukushima No. 3 reactor -- Concern about uncontrolled chain reaction -- Contains highly lethal MOX fuel -- Tepco: "We don't believe an emergency situation is breaking out" (VIDEO)

Published: July 19th, 2013 at 2:03 pm ET
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52 comments to AFP: Steaming Fukushima reactor is ‘baffling’ — Tepco: We still don’t know what caused it and are currently investigating

  • norbu norbu

    [... Tepco] said the steam did not contain an abnormally high level of radiation. Please tell us how you know this and the numbers and content of the steam. If they are not that high why hold them back. Because it is not abnormal for high level radiation from burnt Mox fuel. Tricks with words.
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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    While we are at it, TEPCO, what is the exact location of Corium3 (besides all over the surrounding Pacific Ocean and countryside)? How do you know? Give us the numbers. Images?


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  • davidh7426 davidh7426

    It's OK, panic over, the world is now SAFE, because…

    TEPCO is 'CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING'.

    Why do those two words 'currently investigating' send shivers down my spine, and why do I have the feeling that we'll be watching a Japanese remake of a "Inspector Clouseau" movie ( feel free to hum the Pink Panther theme tune while they're currently investigating ;) ).


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Steam coming up from the ongoing triple nuclear meltdowns is cause for concern.


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  • It's scary/insane when words like this are used in describing a Nuclear Power Plant.

    "baffling"
    "under investigation"
    "still did not know for sure"
    "precariousness"

    "While the natural disaster claimed more than 18,000 lives, no one is officially recorded as having died as a direct result of the radiation released by the disaster." – last sentence of article

    However, ….over the next several years and decades…?
    They forgot to mention that part. ;)


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  • razzz razzz

    Steams only during a high tide??


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  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    What's 'steaming' is what they're telling us.


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  • AntonButler

    THE POPULATION OF UKRAINE DECREASED BY 7 MILLION POST CHERNOBYL.
    The doctor head of Chernobyl clean up states the number of victims is 2254000 dead.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Ts18dxuH0


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    • WorkerBee

      "Chernobyl – 25 years later" starting at 0:16:59"
      "The number of victims of the catastrophe is estimated to be
      2 254 000. These are people who require medical aftercare. Yet even before the 20th anniversary, the UN, the IAEA, and the WHO decreed that medical supervision should be reduced or even stopped."

      Well, 2,254,000 people cannot yet be dead if some of them require medical aftercare. However, the real crime here is the attitude of international agencies that these people are to be ignored, forgotten, and left to die alone. Friends, you are one nearby nuclear disaster from becoming part of the ignored and forgotten. Never forget.


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    • Sometimes a life is MUCH easier to believe, and the truth seems to be too far fetched and outlandish.

      IPPNW – Health Effects of Chernobyl 25 Years After The Reactor Catastrophe (69 million casualties); via @AGreenRoad
      http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/07/ippnw-health-effects-of-chernobyl-25.html


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        • WorkerBee

          Thanks for the links in your article. The numbers keep increasing. I was aware of Yablakov's (sp?) estimate of around one million deaths. However, it reasonable to assume a high fraction of fatalities among the cited 9,480,000 victims of intense radiation exposure.

          I keep wondering whether or not the cherries from Washington State or other fruits and vegetables from California in the supermarket are safe to eat. I've tried to eat healthy, but now I don't know what healthy is any more.


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          • razzz razzz

            Inhaling anything radioactive is more of a concern than ingesting it. The digestive track handles it better than the lungs.

            In other words, you eat bananas, not inhale bananas.

            Then once in the body, radioactivity is measured in 'biological half-lives' because the body excretes what it doesn't need and shortens the stay.

            So, you would have to be constantly exposed to abnormal radioactivity or take in massive doses to begin having any dangerous levels. Of course it is hit and miss because at anytime a cancer could instantly form and disregard the incubation period of 5 to 70 years. Not to mention any DNA damage the body can't repair that can affect future generations.

            Smoking would be a good example as sticky tobacco leaves collect radioactive airborne particles beside the plant up-taking radioactive minerals from phosphate fertilizers and concentrates all these elements. But still it usually takes a lifetime for cancer(s) to catchup to smokers.

            Seems like any initial low level fallout dusting of the ground would begin entering the natural cycle and concentrate underground or in runoff, lessening the near term exposure. (Except Daiichi with continuous releases).

            http://melpor.hubpages.com/hub/The-Radioactive-Polonium-In-Cigarettes-Smoke

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_half-life


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  • AntonButler

    THE CHILDREN OF THE CHERNOBYL HAVE MANY CHRONIC DISEASES.
    LIFE EXPECTANCY IN THE CHERNOBYL REGION IS REDUCING FROM 75 YEARS TO 55 YEARS.


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  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    We would know nothing if not for websites like these. I found a website from France showing the deposits found across the USA. http://cerea.enpc.fr/en/fukushima.html. There is a paper from Scripps Research that babies are being born with hypothyroidism in southern California. Orange County got deposits 200% higher than many areas of the west coast.There is a book called "Deadly Deceit" that was written in 1992 detailing the increase in death rates on the west coast in the years following Chernobyl.

    USA acceptable level of radiation in food is 1000BQ in Japan it is 100BQ. Blue Fin Tuna caught in San Diego has cesium, but yet they say "safe to eat" japan now importing food to USA. i.e rice, vegis etc. Thanks for having this website, it is a great resource.

    I am buying a geiger counter because we are 2+ years into this accident and I have been watching the rads at FD raise over the past week and they are now at 147,000 radiation map link. http://jciv.iidj.net/map/


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    • We Not They Finally

      EPA, as we speak, is making this much WORSE. Now soil used to grow produce can have 800% enough plutonium in it to kill you as the "acceptable" level. See Michael Collins, enviroreporter.com. Government-approved death right here and now.


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      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

        I went to that website, and I want to thank you for the information. The rates by where I live in Southern California are elevated. The peer reviewed papers I read (from Europe) stated Southern California got the highest deposits of the west Coast.

        I guess they found a great method to de-populate the planet. When we all get sick from this, the death panels on Obamacare will say there is no use treating us because we will absorb too much of the health dollars.

        A lot of people I know are ill with strange things. My friend who was very healthy got heart failure out of nowhere. I saw an interview where someone said a certain type of radiation attacks the muscles and people get cardiac problems.

        In a country with "Free Press" you would think one of the talking heads would report on a real issue such as this.


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    • The rads in Fuk. had been up to 177.000, I'd say two months ago. Surprising it went down after all the things that have been going on since then.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Around 2,000 Fukushima Workers At Risk Of Thyroid Cancer Due To Radiation: TEPCO

    Around 2,000 people who have worked at Japan's wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant face a heightened risk of thyroid cancer, its operator said Friday.

    Tokyo Electric Power (TEPCO) said 1,973 people — around 10 percent of those employed in emergency crews involved in the clean-up since the meltdowns — were believed to have been exposed to enough radiation to cause potential problems.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/19/fukushima-workers-risk-thyroid-cancer_n_3622529.html


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    • Jebus Jebus

      Think about it.

      Probably over twenty thousand individuals have been through that radiation plant in two years and four months.

      20,000 people, approximately 850 days.

      24 people a day minimum estimate…

      Is that comparable to a banana in some way?


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    • Jebus Jebus

      Just think again…

      If this multiple nuclear meltdown were to happen on USA soil,
      would they get 20,000+ pro nuclear advocates to help clean it up?


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      • NoNukes NoNukes

        This multiple nuclear meltdown is happening on USA soil. The thing that is "baffling" is the conspiracy of silence preventing the truth of that fact from reaching the people who need the information most, like pregnant mothers…

        I just think of all the babies who have already died here and elsewhere needlessly because of what people have said and have not said.


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  • razzz razzz

    baffling is why the Japanese government wants to restart reactors.


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    • We Not They Finally

      $$$$$$$$$$$$$ is the only reason. What the $$$$$$$ will buy them?? Perhaps if they are lucky a large tomb.Intelligent life in the Universe is surely not here on earth.We are all Bozoos.


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      • many moons

        $$$$$ makes little sense…I think that mankind has always longed to have the power to control it's own destiny…but never had the where with all to complete the mission.

        If each one of us had to live forever in whatever circumstances that arose, life might seem like torture….the existence of death makes life tolerable. With the invention of nuclear bombs, plants, materials…we also have the ability now to end it all….for the first time in the history of mankind we can wipe out life of every kind.
        And we are doing it…actively and passively.


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  • m a x l i

    "[... Tepco] said the steam did not contain an abnormally high level of radiation."

    What is the normal level of radiation at the site of a multiple nuclear reactor meltdown?


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  • weeman

    If tepco is telling the truth and there is no increase in radiation, then I would presume that the steam is from convection heat, there is no doubt that the corium weather it is in a liquid state or solid state will still be giving off tremendous amounts of heat, the heat has to dissipate and is either heating concrete or the steel pressure vessel surrounding reactor, think of it as a heat sink? No cold shut down balderdash.
    If it takes 5 years in SFP to cool fuel assemblies, how long to cool run away corium blob, a long time.


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  • AntonButler

    CHERNOBYL CLEAN UP TOTAL TIME =129 YEARS
    1986 TO 2115.
    COST UNKNOWN
    TECHNOLOGY UNDEVELOPED AND UNKNOWN
    WASTE STORAGE UNKNOWN
    DEATH TOLL UNKNOWN
    DISABILITY TOLL UNKNOWN
    WHO WILL DO THE WORK UNKNOWN


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    • pure water

      I can find several reasons why it is unknown. First of all it has not finished! Than – there are a lot of efforts for hiding the unpleasant truth. Then comes forgetfulness. If you have enough time, please watch this old BBC documentary:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GezeZlu70oI
      The only lesson learned from the previous tragedy is how to hide the truth! For those, who have not got the time:
      -The end of this documentary has given a warning – There WILL BE another accident! (Now when it is a reality, people still listen to the vain safety claims!)
      -It reveals the danger from the short lived Iodine isotopes.
      -It warns about increased number of agressive, fast developing cancers.(There are such reports this time!)
      If we forget the past, we can lose the future!


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      • AntonButler

        Cancer rates in Iraq are up by 2000 percent in some towns where
        lots of DU was used by George Bush.
        Babies with such deformities that it is impossible to even look at them…………
        deformed by the United States of America,and deformed by George Bush which/who really knows how to deform babies, using DU.


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  • AntonButler

    CHERNOBYL 600 DEAD HELICOPTER PILOTS,
    THEY WERE VERY SICK AFTER 1 OR 2 FLIGHTS OVER THE REACTOR 4


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Repost..We might as well look at it while they are baffled.

    Whiff of Steam from Reactor 3 Operating Floor at #Fukushima I Nuke Plant
    July 18 2013

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5o7Yos5p5E&feature=youtu.be

    I found it..YES.

    Fukushima I Nuke Plant: Steam Rising from Reactor 3 Top Floor, 7/18/2013

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C4n2NJROiI


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    PS. Thank you so much..Nuckelchen.


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  • We Not They Finally

    Why doesnt TEPCO inquire with their anal cavities begin and their brains end?


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    "It is more likely that the steam is an indication that the melted nuclear fuel in the reactor building is relocating, heating up, losing coolant water, or all of the above."
    http://enformable.com/2013/07/steam-emitting-from-fukushima-daiichi-reactor-halts-work/


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