Alarm at nuclear plant after radioactive leak — “Damaged fuel in reactor” — Workers immediately evacuated from site — Reactor in “a very special condition”… Dangerous neutron flux in core reported (VIDEO)

Published: March 7th, 2017 at 5:49 pm ET
By

190 comments


Nils Bøhmer, nuclear physicist formerly with the Norwegian Radiation Protection Authority (NRPA), Mar 3, 2017 (emphasis added): October 25th brought reports that there was a release of radioactive iodine from the Halden Reactor [in Norway]… The iodine emission began when the IFE [Institute for Energy Technology] should have dealt with damaged fuel in the reactor hall. This led to a release of radioactive substances via the ventilation system… The next day, the NRPA conducted an unannounced inspection of the IFE. The situation was still unresolved and radioactive released were still ongoing… The ventilation system was then shut off to limit further releases into the environment. This, in turn, created more serious problems… Pressurize air kept the valves in the reactor’s cooling system open, which in turn stopped the circulation of cooling water. In the following days, the NRPA continued to monitor the reactor’s safety [and] received notice from the IFE that the reactor was in “a very special condition.” What that meant was that the IFE had discovered temperature fluctuations in the reactor vessel indicating an increased neutron flux in the core, and with that the danger of hydrogen formation. Bellona would like to note that it was hydrogen formation in the reactor core that led to a series of explosions at the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant… The IFE therefore had to ask the NRPA for permission to open the valves again, even if that meant releasing radiation to the public… It seems [the IFE] further didn’t understand the seriousness of the situation… [We at Bellona are] concerned that the reactor core may become unstable by just closing the vents. Hydrogen formation in the reactor core is very serious, as Fukushima showed…

Media reports after the initial leak:

  • The Independent: Radioactive leak reported at Norwegian nuclear reactor… Staff at the facility were evacuated immediately after the incident… “We will investigate how this could happen and why we were not warned until the following day,” the NPRA said in a statement. Its head of safety, Per Strand, added: “We need to gather more information … But we are not happy with the situation, that we were not warned immediately”…
  • The Local (Norway): Those who were in the reactor hall during the incident were evacuated when an alarm sounded. Workers have since been back in the hall in an attempt to identify the cause and extent of the radioactive discharge… “Our focus now is that IFE gets the leak stopped,” NRPA director Per Strand said…
  • NBC News: Norway Nuclear Reactor Leaks Radioactive Iodine: Officials… “Of course it’s an unfortunate situation but there is a low environmental risk,” said Per Strand, deputy director-general at the [NRPA]… “This is not the sort of leak we want.”
  • Voice of America: “Plant officials said a technical failure during the handling of fuel led to the release of radioactive Iodine-131 and -132 to the reactor hall. They said staff were immediately evacuated”…

See also: [intlink id=”officials-warn-mysterious-radioactive-cloud-is-spreading-authorities-baffled-over-release-could-indicate-leak-from-nuclear-plant-particles-very-radioactive” type=”post”]{{empty}}[/intlink]

Watch a broadcast on Halden’s radioactive release here

Published: March 7th, 2017 at 5:49 pm ET
By

190 comments

Related Posts

  1. Experts: Nuclear chain reactions may have lasted over 7 months at Fukushima — Neutron leakage from ‘active’ molten fuel — “Core producing radioactive sulfur” — Top Gov’t Official: MOX fuel could be neutron source April 10, 2014
  2. URGENT: Emergency at Fukushima after major M7.4 quake — Workers evacuated as tsunami hits nuke plants — Public told “Please Flee Immediately” — “Cooling systems at reactor FAILED… Fears nuclear waste may leak” — Prime Minister: We must grasp extent of damage — Officials warn of more powerful quakes (VIDEOS) November 21, 2016
  3. High levels of radioactive material has started to leak at No. 3 reactor — Gov’t says reactor may be damaged… MOX (VIDEO) March 24, 2011
  4. Leak at Shut Down California Nuke Plant: “Likely to persist for some days” — Officials “must immediately say if leak is radioactive” (VIDEO) October 23, 2012
  5. TV: Close call at U.S. nuclear plant — Evacuated for 5 hours after leak set off alarm — “Let out a large amount of gas” (VIDEO) #Farley August 3, 2013

190 comments to Alarm at nuclear plant after radioactive leak — “Damaged fuel in reactor” — Workers immediately evacuated from site — Reactor in “a very special condition”… Dangerous neutron flux in core reported (VIDEO)

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    We knew it would happen … sooner or later. Is this it?

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    There is a petition online for protesting the roll-out of 5-G wireless networks in virtually every neighborhood in the U.S. If this happens, there will be nowhere to go to escape being exposed to high frequency cell radiation and RF frequencies.

    Will post details in the Off-Topic Discussion Forum.

    Tomorrow, March 8, is the last day to sign the petition (FCC).

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    Isn't some amount of neutron flux normal inside an operating nuclear reactor? At what point does it become dangerous? Gather the issue is the damage to the fuel. Not a lot of details out there yet to explain this.

    Does anyone have a more clear explanation of what may be happening?

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    Sounds like the rate of flux, heading toward an uncontrolled reaction is the issue.

    This explains it better (danger of explosion of reactor core during a "supercriticality"):

    Japan Nuclear Engineer: US reactor at risk of ‘supercriticality’ during recent emergency… “That’s something scary” — Damaged nuclear fuel rods and fuel fragments found at plant, conditions reported as “seriously degraded” (VIDEO)

    Published: May 24th, 2015 at 9:49 pm ET

    http://enenews.com/japan-nuclear-engineer-reactor-risk-supercriticality-during-recent-emergency-big-spike-neutron-flux-scary-fragments-nuclear-fuel-later-found-plant-conditions-reported-be-seriously-degraded-video

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    Let us pray … or think good thoughts, whatever floats our individual boats ….

    Please, not another Chernobyl/Fukushima, oh, please.

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    This out-of-control situation has been going on since October, 2016? Is this our "Smoking gun" and maybe the cause of the high radiation levels all over Europe. I remember MVB said (his first comment re: this) was he thought something may have gone wrong with a reactor or storage facility in Norway. Right on the money.

  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    Far too late for that, democracy is dead.

    Somewhat revised, white reaper does it again.

    http://pastebin.com/Wg0Xj83U

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Irrelevant, please stay on topic

      • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

        What, the way you did with a mention of 5g, after I mentioned 5g in an earlier article? Who you tryin to fool?

        But, I agree with you, 5g is crap.

      • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

        Oh and check out watch your radar btw, maybe you'll notice something.

        • danger kitty danger kitty

          FM, make yourself useful, mutt. Explain that remark about radar. Succinctly. No links, no coy cryptic bs. Thanks in advance pending performance. Kitties do not suffer fools…

          • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

            Basically, I observed your (sorry if my assumption is incorrect) american radars, noticed something about terrestrial towers and scheduled and synchronized aircraft. I showed it to some others too. You don't have to believe me.

            As another hint, but of course I can't prove it conclusively, my father told me about geoengineering even here in south africa, back in the late 50s.

            • danger kitty danger kitty

              What I thot you meant. Not a question of believing you. I look up. I have an eye for unnatural fractal cloud formations and the circumstances of their creation.I have access to radar displays that illuminate storms being steered; sometimes making 90°or180° turns; to do various missions. I remember USAF told us decades ago they would do these things. For noble reasons, of course…

              • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                I guess I understand, my eyes have been tearing all day. Good cop/Bad cop. For noble reasons, of course.

                Again, I do apologize for my temper and incoherence.

          • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

            It's funny that you expect me to not be coy or cryptic, while insulting and mocking, as many others did. What do you guess you'll get in return?

            If you could, I'd like for you to paste or link to even a single comment I made with similar sentiment.

            • danger kitty danger kitty

              You are not who you don't say you are. Leave it at that

              Gotta go: after all that rain that didn't break Oroville; at the last minute–weather switched. Now it's hot; rattle snake season. Two months early.
              I'm string slashing weeds down.

    • GOM GOM

      Farthington

      F— off you C—?..Who was that for? I would assume HoT. In that case, would please leave..this is a nice request. For now.

      Link content.. I would assume you are a very dangerous unstable individual with a history of in-house residential treatment for many, many, issues. Please go.

      • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

        None of that was specifically directed at anyone, but at malignance. It was, as mentioned in that, "fokof poes" being the afrikaans for f-off you c-. Steve Hughes used it in one his comedy routines too, but in english, and referred to it as an ancient australian proverb.

        It's in this routine if you care to watch.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohogzxiqqkM

  • Jebus Jebus

    Radioactive release from Norwegian research reactor

    A small amount of radioactive iodine was released into the environment yesterday during an incident involving the handling of test fuel in the reactor hall of the Halden research reactor in Norway.

    25 October 2016

    The Institute for Energy Technology (IFE), which operates the reactor, said a "technical fault" occurred at 1.45pm yesterday whilst fuel was being handled in the reactor hall. At that time, the reactor itself was offline for maintenence. The incident resulted in the release of radioactive Iodine-131 and Iodine-132 to the reactor hall and led to an emission into the environment.

    http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS-Radioactive-release-for-Norwegian-research-reactor-2510165.html

    http://enenews.com/officials-warn-mysterious-radioactive-cloud-is-spreading-authorities-baffled-over-release-could-indicate-leak-from-nuclear-plant-particles-very-radioactive/comment-page-1#comment-824178

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Arto Lauri 225. Fukushima swindle of 6 million

    Dec 16, 2016
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPLdrYTvOsA

    in comment to:
    Concerns Grow About A Nuclear "Incident" In Europe After Spike In Radioactive Iodine Levels

    Feb 20, 2017
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-19/concerns-grow-about-nuclear-incident-europe-after-spike-radioactive-iodine-levels

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Norway nuclear reactor suffered radioactive leak – authority
    25 Oct, 2016
    https://www.rt.com/news/364001-norway-nuclear-reactor-leak/

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      This reactor is 59 years old. It is extremely foolish and dangerous to keep nuclear reactors in use for such a long time.

      Quoation from the link I gave above:

      "…The Halden Reactor was built in 1955 and became operational in 1958. It is a boiling water reactor which is dedicated to research purposes. '[It] is regarded in many countries as a strategic asset for testing fuel and reactor components,' according to data from the Norwegian Institute for Energy Technology. It runs at a maximum thermal power of 20 MW…"

  • Dazy Dazy

    "The IFE therefore had to ask the NRPA for permission to open the valves again, even if that meant releasing radiation to the public. The release that followed was, according to the NRPA, within the emission limit values specified in the operating permit."

    Once again "open the valves again" "The release that followed was… within the emission limit values specified in the operating permit."

    The lack of care for life is astounding.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Remember, you only get a dose a day at a time.

    Yesterday's dose is backround…

  • CANT BREATHE CANT BREATHE

    [We at Bellona are] concerned that the reactor core may become unstable by just closing the vents. Hydrogen formation in the reactor core is very serious, as Fukushima showed…
    Are the vents open? Are they closed? At this point does it matter?

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      At 59 years old..this nuclear reactor and its core is already unstable..design life was for 30 years maximum.

      29 years of pure profits will come with a very high price for all in this area.

      Shut this piece of junk down..and all the rest of them while you still can..says he.

      • DUDe DUDe

        "..design life was for 30 years maximum.."

        Issent it so that as soon as a reactor get shutdown for decommission it cost's incredible amounts of money noone wants to pay..? Let alone the bipedals with the strongest addiction to wealth , power and playing russian roulette with the mass..

        Another briljant way of putting ourself/Earth-Life in checkmate position by humanity..err by the nuclear "industry"..the nuclear waste problem..the reactor problem..the nuclear weapons race..all the same extermination "fruit" from psychopatic minds we forgot to stop in their tracks before they got us into checkmate..

        Our only excuse..they lied to us..still do..

  • razzz razzz

    Happened in October '16 and the explanation is still as clear as mud.

    So, I can guess all I want, right?

    Wikipedia says it is a boiling water 25MW reactor using heavy water where they conduct testing on fuel rods. Whatever.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halden_Reactor

    Sounds like they damage some fuel rods which led to neutrons traveling free which led to some fission which lead to overheating which caused steam pockets around fuel rods which led to zirconium cladding overheating and reacting with water to created hydrogen. If radioiodine fallout was found then the fuel rods were broken or the cladding burnt through to release the radioiodine created during some runaway fission since radioiodine is a resulting fission product. Hence the necessary venting to avoid pressure build up to prevent damaging the reactor or worse things would happen.

    Remember there has not been a reactor containment ever designed able to hold the off-gassing of a failing reactor (meltdown). You vent radioactive fallout directly to the environment to prevent reactor damage from overpressure. Core (fuel rods) might melt and you radioactively gas the locals but save the reactor shell to hold any melt and hopefully get the reactor cooled down.

    Everything is fine. The reactor is saved, cooling is ongoing, additives for poisoning the cooling water to halt fission has been injected and biological robots are expendable.

    After the damage assessment the site may close down.

    • razzz razzz

      Diabolically speaking, Russians take the opportunity to test a nuke using the damaged Halden core fallout as a cover for their nuke bomb test fallout.

    • razzz razzz

      Hopefully this damage cored is not self starting itself four months later. Probably not because the all clear to report the event has been given just not the details. Another black eye on the nuclear industry with reoccurring reactor mishaps closer together than predicted. One every 1,000 years or was it one in every 10,000 years as the baseline?

  • DUDe DUDe

    Background Radiation Has Increased 600 Percent – 1 mSv In 1950 To over 6 mSv Today; Where Is This Coming From? Physicist Dr. Paolo Scampa And Dr Busby Weigh In On The Evidence And Root Causes

    THERE WERE NO MANMADE HEAVY METAL RADIOACTIVE POISONS IN THE WORLD PRIOR TO THE CARBON FUEL/ATOMIC AGE

    “Eisenbud points out that the world Inventory of radioactive materials prior to World War II, both In the environment and in the laboratory, was confined to those which occurred in nature, with the exception of a relatively few millicuries of radioactivity produced in cyclotrons during the late 1930's. Construction of large nuclear reactors during the war and the associated operations for extracting plutonium from irradiated uranium resulted in the first extensive occasions for contaminating the environment with radioactive substances.”

    http://www.agreenroadjournal.com/2014/03/background-radiation-has-increased-600.html

  • Richardsanders

    Well-done! It is an article that is not just helpful for me but lots of many could benefit from it.<a href=" https://www.nursingessay.co.uk/nursing-assignment.php">Assignment Writers UK</a>

  • Richardsanders

    [url=https://www.nursingessay.co.uk/nursing-assignment.php]Assignment Writers UK[/url]

  • haizedustrium-1234 haizedustrium-1234

    Please complete the following for a certificate of award in basic knowlege (91.67% needed):
    Which of the following has failed mankind over and over again:
    A) Hydrogen explotion
    B) Nuclear explotion
    C) Unstable fuel
    D) Uncontrolled fast nutron flux chain reaction
    E) Leaking free radical nutrinos
    F) Unstoppable fast proton flux chain reaction (exhaustible not considerd stoppable)
    G) Excessive heat for boiling water
    H) Moderation negligence
    I) Sofistication propaganda
    J) Budget kickbacks
    K) Lack of basic understanding

    Non compulsory question for a gold certificate:
    Which technology is both approved by your neighbouring country and condemed, but never officially at the same time?

  • rogerthat

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-fukushima-returnees-idUSKBN16F083

    Six years after Fukushima nuclear disaster, residents trickle back to deserted towns

  • rogerthat

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/03/07/national/social-issues/financial-crunch-time-looms-fukushimas-voluntary-evacuees/#.WL_3wyN95aU

    Financial crunch time looms for Fukushima’s ‘voluntary evacuees’
    BY SATOSHI IIZUKA
    KYODO
    MAR 7, 2017

    This month, housing subsidies run out for those who fled the Fukushima nuclear disaster from areas other than the government-designated evacuation zones, and as the clock ticks down, evacuees have had to decide whether to return or move once again.

    Many of these so-called voluntary evacuees are mothers seeking to avoid risking their children’s health while their husbands remain in radiation-hit Fukushima Prefecture, according to freelance journalist Chia Yoshida.

    This is why the term “voluntary evacuee” is misleading, as it gives the impression that they fled Fukushima for selfish reasons, Yoshida told a news conference in January in Tokyo.

    At the same news conference, another journalist proposed using the term “domestic refugee” to describe them.

    The Fukushima Prefectural Government has been paying the cost of public and private housing for voluntary evacuees under the Disaster Relief Act since the reactors melted down at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant after the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami.

    The number of evacuees from the disaster, including those from mandatory evacuation areas, peaked at 164,865 as of May 2012, according to the prefectural government. …

  • rogerthat

    Its latest tally, conducted earlier this year, shows that 11,321 out of the 12,239 voluntary evacuee households had already decided where to live after April, while 250 had not.

    It was back in June 2015 when Fukushima announced the plan to end the rent subsidy this month, saying that decontamination work in the prefecture had advanced and food safety had been achieved.

    Still, the central government’s evacuation orders have not been lifted in “difficult-to-return zones,” which include the towns of Futaba and Okuma, home to the crippled nuclear facility.

    Those no-entry areas are subject to radiation of over 50 millisieverts per year, compared with the government’s long-term annual target of less than 1 millisievert after decontamination work.

    Rika Mashiko, 46, is a voluntary evacuee living in Tokyo. She has decided to rent a house near the Fukushima-paid apartment where she and her daughter, now in elementary school, are currently living so that her daughter will not miss her friends.

    Mashiko and her daughter fled Fukushima about two months after the nuclear crisis started, leaving behind her husband in their house in Miharu, located in the center of the prefecture.

    Mashiko said many women evacuated from Fukushima with their children, compelled by their instinct as mothers to avoid danger.

    “Maybe nothing might have happened, but if it had, it would have been too late,” she said. …

  • rogerthat

    Mashiko, who first moved to a house in Higashiyamato in eastern Tokyo that was leased for free, said mothers like her who fled the nuclear disaster feel they shouldn’t have to pay their housing costs and are angry at being “victims of the state’s nuclear policy.”

    Many voluntary evacuees are financially struggling as they have to cover the double living costs in their hometowns, where typically the fathers remain, and the new places where the mothers and children moved.

    In that sense, the free housing has been a “lifeline” for them, particularly in the Tokyo metropolitan area where housing costs are high, according to journalist Yoshida.

    In an attempt to extend support to those families, Makoto Yamada, a veteran pediatrician in Tokyo, established a fund with ¥3 million out of his own pocket to help them rent new houses, for example by covering the deposit.

    The initiative was the latest example of the support he has been providing to evacuees. Three months after the disaster, he held a counseling session in the city of Fukushima that attracted some 400 people concerned about radiation exposure. He has continued to hold similar sessions in Tokyo.

    Yamada, 75, says poor understanding of the plight of voluntary evacuees has also played a role in bullying cases involving evacuee children that have been reported across Japan since last year.

    In one high-profile case, a first-year junior high school student in Yokohama was called a “germ” at school, …

  • rogerthat

    in reference to his supposed exposure to radiation.

    Society appears to generally feel that voluntary evacuees have received a lot of money on top of the one-time compensation payment made by Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc., the operator of Fukushima No. 1.

    Yamada says if people understood that voluntary evacuees had no wish to leave but felt they had to, such bullying would disappear.

    The first financial support from Yamada’s fund went to 10 mothers and their children on Jan. 15. He was surprised to see the recipients shed tears of joy upon receiving ¥200,000 or ¥300,000 each.

    Yamada said the government has tried to reduce the number of evacuees from Fukushima in order to claim that their ranks have decreased and that the disaster has been overcome.

    Yoshida echoed that view, describing the voluntary evacuees as “people who will be eliminated from history as the government seeks to trivialize the damage from radiation contamination and say their evacuation was unnecessary.”

    As long as there are evacuees living outside Fukushima, they will remain a symbol showing the situation has yet to be solved, Yamada said.

    “If you say ‘we will not forget about Fukushima,’ you should never forget the terror of radiation, bearing in mind that people will not live in safety as long as nuclear plants exist in the world,” he said. “So, I want to continue to think about the evacuees.

  • Sol Man

    For the love of life, of all things sacred, these machines must be turned off while we still have people in the world that can do it.

    http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CBRT.IN

    So, do you think that the world's increasing radiation has any/everything to do with the world's declining birthrate?

  • jackassrig

    The hydrogen can materialize from two sources, either from the condenser or the environment. Hydrogen generated in the reactor would find itself in the condenser as a non-condensable gas and ejected into the environment via the stack. The air ejectors would not eject into the turbine building for fear of accumulating hydrogen. The turbine building houses the switch gear with all of its many control relays and breakers. It may contain the motor control board with its many breakers and relays. One wayward spark and the entire thing goes kaBoom. Vacuum is maintained by condensation of the steam and non-condensable gases will eventually destroy the vacuum. I’m assuming the hydrogen in the condenser is a small quantity. If hydrogen in large quantities is being generated, then the reactor would need to be depressurized venting by safety valves into the environment. The reactor may have other means of venting. At any rate the reactor is depressurized. This would release steam and hydrogen into the environment. The turbine building apparently has louvers on the air intake to the turbine building. The louvers are controlled by a sniffer for hydrogen or anything explosive. It appears the air inside the building is below atmospheric pressure – induced draft. I’ve only seen louvers on induced draft. Either induced draft or forced draft there is a chance of pulling hydrogen from the outside into the turbine building. cont…

  • jackassrig

    Without outside air the turbine building will get very hot in short order due to the hot steam pipes, electric motors, turbines etc. It appears that when the sniffers detect an explosive gas the louvers close which also starts a change of events of closing motor operated valves (MOV) Idling circulating pumps and anything which could cause a spark. The statement “stopped the circulation of cooling water” suggests the pumps were secured due to possible hydrogen ingesting in the turbine building. However, the valves in the reactor building where open for cooling. It looks as if the requirements of the turbine building are working against the requirements of the reactor.
    The motor control room could be a separate building with its own fail safe system. I’m assuming the MCC is in the turbine building.
    I’m not sure why the hydrogen is lying close to the ground since hydrogen is lighter than air. It could be the venting is at ground level which could allow the hydrogen to be ingested into the turbine building or motor control room. There is a massive amount of steam because of the massive amount of water in the reactor. Going from a high pressure to a low pressure would flash most of the water to steam. Which brings up the possibility of losing the moderator.

  • jackassrig

    If you have ever watched "On the Beach", You remember the part where the diver goes into the refinery to find the "bottle tugging on the shade". That area is the power house. The turbines are the large cylindrical pieces and the switch gear is way back in the background with the gages and breakers. That is a decent size switch gear.

  • jackassrig

    These reactors have gone way past their design life. With the hardening of the metals due to radiation, they all need to be shut down immediately.

  • GOM GOM

    Ecologist (UK): Finland cancels Olkiluoto 4 nuclear reactor – is the EPR finished?

    The British Daily Mail newspaper characterised the Flamanville EPR project as one "beset by financial mismanagement with rocketing costs, the deaths of workers, an appalling inability to meet construction deadlines, industrial chaos, and huge environmental concerns", and noted that "it continues to be plagued by delays, soaring costs, and litigation in both the criminal and civil courts."

    https://www.worldnuclearreport.org/Ecologist-UK-Finland-cancels.html

  • GOM GOM

    Norway: Leaking reactor in a mountain cave?

    Halden Reactor Project [scroll photos]

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-norway-accident-nuclear-idUSKCN12P13Y?il=0

  • jackassrig

    Since the hardness of the metals are altered because of radiation, the allowable stresses used in the design phase are meaningless. ASTM standards specify the way a specific plate is to be manufactured. ASTM A285 plate will be manufactured differently than ASTM A516 plate. Hardness is one of the properties specified in most of the ASTM specifications. A285 plate will be different than A516 due to defining properties. The codes – B31.3, B31.1, ASME Section VIII, nuclear codes – set their allowable stresses assuming the plate is manufactured to the specific ASTM number – A285, A516, and a myriad of others. So when the hardness changes the allowable stresses need to be adjusted because the intrinsic properties of the plate fall outside of their defining range. The plate used in the reactors should be de-rated due to the change in hardness. To do this means a de-rating of the design pressure of the reactor an anathema to the business chiefs who have a hard time finding their rumps. So we just keep on having these accidents.

    • Thank you an important issue that metals get stressed over time and radiation lowers metals strength over time. No 1970's era nuclear power plants should be recertified in my opinion. Fukushima was built decades ago amid whispers of criminal activity and corruption. Real possibility of sub -standard materials used to build it and others in Japan.

    • razzz razzz

      Contrary to end of life reactors, you have San Onofre replacing steam generators that were a failed upgrade design and began leaking within months of operation. Leaking to the environment around San Clemente and Camp Pendleton military base with no public warnings or notice. PG&E's solution after plugging damaged cooling tubes, is to run the reactor at 80% of output when marginally 50% was recommended. We know how that ended and it involved two brand new heat exchangers at the two reactor units there.

      I still get charged a monthly fee for decommissioning on my SDG&E bill. SDG&E (now Sempra Energy) only held a 20% interest in San Onofre or still has a 20% responsibility. This fee was put in place when the site was being constructed before it even produced any power.

      "…A reactor vessel of a typical nuclear power plant (PWR) endures in 40 years (32 full reactor years) of operation approximately 3.5×1019 n/cm² (E>1MeV).[5] Neutron flux causes reactor vessels to suffer from embrittlement and the steel gets activated…"
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_flux

      Head seals will fail long before safety valves kick in to begin pressure release. Over-pressured reactors leak like big teapots from the damnedest places which forces manual engagement to release over pressure before safety valves normally activate.

      • razzz razzz

        Correction to PG&E and San Onofre. Southern California Edison (SCE) has the controlling interest and responsibility of San Onofre (SONGS), not PG&E.

        'San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station'

        "…The nuclear facility is owned by Southern California Edison. Edison International, parent of SCE, holds 78.2% ownership in the plant; San Diego Gas & Electric Company, 20%; and the City of Riverside Utilities Department, 1.8%…"

        Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) owns and operates nuclear Diablo Canyon Power Plant site.

  • GOM GOM

    Alarm Bells

    San Onofre Falling Into The Sea..PHOTO

    http://ourpeacecenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/san-onofre.jpg

    Sea water washing over, severe coastal cliff erosion. WHEN were they going to declare this obvious state of emergency? Severe Pacific storms continue.

    Millions of tons of waste sitting here..with the sea washing over

    http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/okbbh0-b88878231z.120170124174104000gnelaas4.10.jpg

    Notice they don't show other side where the sea has breached the plant. Top link photo.

    Stunning reality amid the LIES & coverup

  • GOM GOM

    NRC ORDERS 'STAND DOWN' AT SAN ONOFRE NPP

    Stand-down order at San Onofre questioned.

    The plant is closed, but radioactive material remains

    http://www.energy.ca.gov/commissioners/weisenmiller_docs/articles/2015-11-14_Stand-down_Order_at_San_Onofre_Questioned.pdf

  • At least in Norway the word does get out that there is a radiation leak?
    Wonder how it works in North Korea, China or Russia.
    Obviously numbers are suspect. We have seen, those of us who followed the story, Fukushima numbers under reported from the beginning, fact of melt through conditions suppressed and radiation pouring out into the ocean daily as remediation funds based on bank loan payments.
    In short environment is sacrificed for monetary gains. Everywhere through multiple industries. What a shame!
    Trust me the study on effects on the environment and food chain of the Pacific Ocean due to reaction of microscopic plastic compounds and Fukushima multiple isotope radiation airborne and water bound plumes has been done and is thoroughly suppressed. Now enjoy your day!

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      The past is creating our future..how is it going out here?

      Anybody sick out here? Any violence or strange behaviors anywhere? Know anyone with cancer?

      Health Effects of Chernobyl
      25 years after
      the reactor catastrophe
      https://www.ratical.org/radiation/Chernobyl/HEofC25yrsAC.html

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        The United States spends and/or charges it's citizens close to 3 trillion dollars a year for health care.

        The biggest scam in the world…

        • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

          OH but won't you believe, they will try and identify as many forms (incorrectly) of cancer as possible, too. Sell it to you as say, a very simple cheap self-administering cellphone addond, simple blood test. Now you too could know if you have IMMEDIATELY need chemo-therapy, almost as conveniently as taking a pregnancy test.

  • Sol Man

    Earlier menopause after radiation exposure.

    http://www.bioone.org/doi/10.1667/RR2676.1

  • razzz razzz

    Some comment somewhere was linking to inept and confused nuke engineers trying to figure out where Daiichi went wrong. Besides being built in the first place, the great quake violently shook the site for almost 3 minutes. Unit 1 was already steaming away about a hour before the tsunami arrived which there is a picture of it steaming, actually venting before the flooding.

    Daiichi had a loss of coolant for various reasons before it had a loss of power (station blackout). The quake cracked and dislodged plumping during the shaking. Before a tsunami arrives the ocean recedes as noted by a worker in a group that evacuated to higher ground and observed the sea receding hundreds of yards exposing the ocean floor.

    How do the cooling intake pipes work when the ocean is nowhere to be found? How is makeup or replacement cooling water being delivered if your plumbing is leaking from damaged caused by the quake?

  • The nuke engineers are paid off and grateful their children haven't been
    tortured and killed and so keep their mouths shut. The technicalities of nuclear power and radiation are beyond the scope of the average citizen and so the message gets watered down. Nuclear power is bad and big business types can't be trusted and are not our friends. They will poison us if the price is right. Bright lights and price is right game going on while world slowly dies. The economy is a machination that eats up our time while destroying our world. Nuclear energy is all part of that, although, more dastardly as it's roots lie in Atomic Bomb death dream of a sick section of humanity.

  • Well, if this is anything like Fukushima, and why not; aren't they all(?), anything they say they fear, "might happen", has already happened.
    So, I'd say they're in the midst of a meltdown, by now.
    They just don't want to scare people into bedlam.

    'Cuz that's what we need…
    Just how many accidents must the world face before, "our leaders", figure this out? This stuff is unsteady. It is dangerous. It's deadly!

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Secret meltdown: Iodine 131 meldown in Halden nuclear reactor in Norway which Media are ignoring #IAEA #UNSCEAR

    arclight2011
    Published on Mar 5, 2017

    “A release of Iodine 131 from the Halden nuclear reactor adds to Europes nuclear pollution concerns and the radiation mapping is hiding the spikes of radiation from view. Bellona.org and the NRPA are trying to bring transparency and deal with the situation in a safe manner but the owners of the Thorium reactor (IFE) are doing a "TEPCO"" and protecting their investments instead of considering downwind populations in Norway, Sweden and Denmark.

    “The IFE are risking a Hydrogen explosion (the same issue that happened at the Fukushima nuclear reactor in March 2011, nearly exactly 6 years ago) to protect their PR image and because of greed. I explain the issues and here is the link to the evidence;

    “The secret meltdown in Norway is stepping in Fukushima footsteps! Iodine 131 in Europe again! #IAEA #UNSCEAR
    https://nuclear-news.net/2017/03/05/the-secret-meltdown-in-norway-is-stepping-in-fukushima-fotsteps-iodine-131-in-europe-again-iaea-unscear/

    “Previous youtube video explaining the Hungary medical reactor release in January;

    “Iodine 131 reported in Europe in January 2017 – European radiation facts revealed;
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_30LrqgHqg&spfreload=10
    “(see description under the video for links to sources)”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erOl-AzlsoM

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Possible spreading of the radioactive iodine-131 from the Halden reactor
    Published on Nov 1, 2016

    “Possible spreading of the radiaoactive iodine-131, leaked from the reactor of the Institute for Energy Technology (IFE) in Halden, Norway. The cursor points the place, where the contaminated air was at the moment in the time scale. The spot is moving together with winds and with cyclon, heading to the NE from the Atlantic coast.

    “Norra Energiatehnoloogia instituudi reaktorist lekkinud radioaktiivse joodi võimalik Eestisse ja Soome leviku tee. Koos tuule ja Atlandilt kirdesse suunduva õhumassiga liikuva reostuspilve oletatavat asukohta näitab kursor.

    “Weather map by http://www.windytv.com

    “Audio: I Found an Answer by Twin Musicom”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpXxcwDffPU

  • razzz razzz

    'Long-distance Space Travel Boosts Risk of Leukemia'

    "…The HSCs are a small minority of bone marrow cells (less than 0.1 percent), but they are a vital link in making cells crucial to fighting infections and transporting oxygen, the Wake Forest team explains.

    The radiation essentially shut them down, reducing their ability to produce blood cells by as much as 80 percent.

    The mice developed what the scientists believe to be T-cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia, they report.

    “We found that genetic damage to HSCs directly led to leukemia,” Porada said. “Secondly, radiation also altered the ability of HSCs to generate T and B cells, types of white blood cells involved in fighting foreign ‘invaders’ like infections or tumor cells. This may reduce the ability of the astronaut’s immune system to eliminate malignant cells that arise as a result of radiation-induced mutations.”

    “Appropriate physical and biomedical countermeasures” need to be developed prior to traveling major space distances, they conclude."
    http://www.laboratoryequipment.com/news/2017/03/long-distance-space-travel-boosts-risk-leukemia

    I always thought space travel was not conducive to human health. Maybe the moon and the International Space Station are within Earth's protective field but deep space, noway.

    Here are some comments about the article.
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3532917/posts

    • razzz razzz

      Then there is this.

      'Within one month, two Northshore kids diagnosed with rare disease; one did not survive'

      "…"Kawasaki Disease is the most common arteritis of childhood and arteritis means inflammation of the arteries," said Dr. Sam Lucas, Chief of Pediatric Cardiology at Ochsner Hospital for Children.

      Doctors say Kawasaki is not common. Lucas says the prevalence of the disease is significantly higher in people with east Asian descent and is usually seen during Spring and early Summer. In East Asia, up to 1 percent of the population will get Kawasaki. In the U.S., only a tenth of that, around two to five people in every thousand, will be diagnosed. When it is seen here, it is usually in boys six months to a year old, though doctors say it has occurred at earlier and older ages. At this time, there's no known cause…"
      http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/northshore/rare-childhood-disease-detailed-after-recent-local-cases-one-fatal/420623557

  • Will do some research tomorrow and perform a standard link dump.

    Been a long year, finally have a new bearing I think…

    Hope all are well. See you guys tomorrow. Hopefully my skills aren't rusty and I can make a good impact.

    Things were really really bad to me last year. But I am trying to get past it.
    Ok. Take care all.
    Night
    Tacomagroove

  • GOM GOM

    5G – Warning for humanity: The FCC automatically approves the use of untested frequencies

    Untested 28GHz radiation blasting from millions of new hidden antennas and tuned-up “smart” meters. A corporate free-for-all, with oversight eliminated. Total, for-profit surveillance. An “internet of everything” with “hundreds of billions of microchippable products”. Everywhere and everything… and eventually, everyone.

    This is not sci-fi. This is FCC Commissioner Tom Wheeler’s insane new plan, slickly badged as “5G”. (Fully supported by Hillary Clinton)

    5G cellular technology will blanket planetary life with ultra-high microwave frequencies

    http://www.naturalhealth365.com/5G-wireless-technology-1958.html

  • Sol Man

    Anybody sick out here?
    Unfortunately, after 5 years dear heart has had a recurrence of cancer on the opposing side. We found out very recently and am dealing with it.

    Higher BP for me.

  • Isthmus

    Sol Man , If I was you, I would handle the problem with Clorine Dioxide, no significant side effects, A small yellow paperback explains a lot .

    • Sol Man

      Thanks all for your comments and good wishes. I am more in the self-medicate mode. But, I will consider all alternatives to suggest to her. All I can do is suggest. I think I would be satisfied doing it by myself to the end. But, who can say when the ball is in your (my) court.

      Thanks, again, to all through the years since before 3/11/11 and tolerating my various comments.

      • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

        Sorry to hear dude, I don't know what to say in that situation, terrible at words.

        I hear though that fasting has been effective in inducing apoptosis, starve the cancer possibly, though of course there are other things to consider too.

        As for your high blood pressure, I have a combination ayurvedic concoction, I could list the ingredients if you'd like. Also check Kanna (tortuosum sceletium, iirc), guarana and other sympathetic system agents.

        Hope you find some of that useful.

      • danger kitty danger kitty

        Sol Man, after my wife was murdered by Fukushima AIDS last summer, I started going down the same way. Fast. I was down to 105 lbs. So, yet another suggestion—Avemar aka Oncomar. Lot of research papers on it. Integrative Oncologists use it, concurrent with rads & chemo. It's just wheat germ specially processed. Said to boost natural killer cells AND strips cancer cells of disguise they use to hide from k. cells.
        I got 10 lbs. back 1st week. 15 more next month. About $200-600 a month. My acupuncturist/healer says she's seen it work on stage 4 by itself.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          DK, I'm so very sorry about your wife. I didn't know.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Suggest exploring CBD oil, using Gasser's Maple Bicarb recipe
          (I can send it to you), detoxification.

          Have used Japanese Knotweed 5:1 herbal extract myself to treat tick-borne disesases. Works great, and it causes normal cell apoptosis. Amazingly useful herb. I use Plum Flower Brand. Get it from Humboldt Herbals in Eureka, CA. They can also send you a guide for using it (how to prepare decoctions, etc.)

          Recommend putting the whole herb in a large gelatin capsule. Take 1-2 of them 1-3 times per day, whatever your system can tolerate.

          The stuff is amazingly potent. Really believe if we can detox our bodies, avoid giving cancers food, and promote healthy cell apoptosis (plus the proper mindset) we can beat most of these things.

          CBD pulled skin cancer (SCC) out of my skin (2 areas) after a biopsy. No cancer was found in the tissues when surgery was performed. I'm pretty sure the CBD oil killed it. Now going to an osteopath who treats cancer patients. The doc says CBD is effective for many forms of cancer.

          And re: the skin cancer, the blobs that got pulled out looked like jellyfish with long tentacles that reached down into the skin. CBD oil pulled out all the cancerous looking tissue. Pretty amazing.

          Many medicinal mushrooms have potent anti-tumor properties.

          Hope CBD is an option for you. Wishing you the best.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          If you don't have the maple bicarb recipe, write to me off-list.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Sol Man, perhaps one of the most important things; your wife must decide to be 100% dedicated, diligent and comprehensive. Even the radically effective things like black salve require follow up and holistic remediation of body, environment and mind. A partial Gerson or Budwig program probably wont work. She needs to go all the way

      • earthsmith earthsmith

        Sol Man it can be beat. May you and your love stay positive and strong.
        The baking soda maple syrup mixture is a good one, also black walnut husk and garlic, cutting out all grains as well. Best wishes.

You must be logged in to post a comment.