“We’re Alarmed”: Chunks missing from bodies of salmon from Pacific — Lesions in over 50% of fish being reported — Experts: “Looks like traumatic insult… followed by bacterial invasions”; Investigating for pathogens — Wounds this significant must impact ability to survive (PHOTO)

Published: August 31st, 2014 at 4:18 pm ET
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Vancouver Sun, Aug 30, 2014 (emphasis added): Sockeye salmon… are showing up this year with chunks taken out of their bodies, raising concerns about the [parasitic Pacific] lamprey’s impact on the spawning migration. Rick Jeffries, a former commercial fisherman who is in charge of marketing a Secwepemc aboriginal commercial fishery in Kamloops Lake, said more than 50 per cent of the sockeye have bite marks, some with multiple bites cutting right to the flesh. “We’re alarmed at what we’re seeing,” he said in an interview Friday. “These are significant wounds that must adversely influence the sockeye’s probability to survive.”… Lara Sloan, spokeswoman for the federal fisheries department, confirmed that sockeye in the Thompson River system this season have been caught with circular markings that could be from lampreys, but the exact cause cannot be confirmed without testing.

Salmon wounds this year — Warning- graphic pictures, Fish Sniffer Forum, Aug 23, 2014:

  • I’m seeing more pics posted with wounded river fish. I don’t think any of my fish last year had these wounds.
  • I also heard that a lot of fish are being dragged in like wet socks. They go on one run for the deep and then submit… Whatever it is, it’s not good I’m sure… The dead fish I’ve seen have also had these on them.
  • I’ve never seen this many fish with wounds in the past… If I was to catch one that looks like a couple of those pictures, There’s NO WAY I’m eatin’ that ugly puppy.
  • Got an update from the fish pathologist. “these lesions do look like a traumatic insult and then maybe followed by bacterial invasions. The more rash like lesions may be a bit different with respect to potential causes. To really get a better idea, a full necropsy with some histological analyses would be more informative.” He also said that the lesions were noted in the Winter run salmon this season. Gonna bump this up to the next level with some sample collections and necropsies.
  • Heard back from Dr. Scott Foott from the U.S. Dept. of Fish and Wildlife… “The best candidate is a trauma site leading to columnaris infection”… Still wonder what is causing the initial trauma and why it is so much more prevalent (or apparent) this year.
  • This doesn’t sound good to me. Not trying to be a buzz kill here, just concerned.
  • Over 50% of the fish in the Tisdale to Verona section have these wounds. I’ve seen 20-30 fish caught there (live or txt/emailed pics) and most have some kind of wound.
  • Two UC Davis fish pathologists are going to look at some salmon that show these wounds and examine them for the presence of pathogens in the wound itself and organ systems. Glad to get them on board to take a look (note they are not just hack grad students). They were pretty interested in what is happening to our salmon this year.
  • This thread is a great example of what the forums are all about. We can all put our two cents in to try and figure this problem out. However, we now have enough interest generated on this topic that fishermen are willing to volunteer their salmon to research so the experts can find out what is happening based on the facts. A great team effort by all involved. Hopefully the mystery can be solved and it won’t be too bad of news.

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170 comments to “We’re Alarmed”: Chunks missing from bodies of salmon from Pacific — Lesions in over 50% of fish being reported — Experts: “Looks like traumatic insult… followed by bacterial invasions”; Investigating for pathogens — Wounds this significant must impact ability to survive (PHOTO)

  • hbjon hbjon

    Yes, it is well known what causes every single ailment, disease, and aberration that sea life and mammal life suffer from. It goes back to the knowables and unknowables that the scholarly elites want to share with the poor peasants.
    It hurts. Very painful. The manifestation of a similar disease is knocking on all of our doors. Those who are affected can be heard going boohoo.

    • Let's boohoo with boots on, People

      Fukushima Business Cards 4 U! And everyone else, too!
      http://tinyurl.com/fukushimabusinesscard4u

      These nifty cards are easy to print and pass out.
      Or leave randomly, where ever you please. Distribute liberally.

      Also … Dana needs YOU!

      Fukushima : Expedition For Life Aug 30th 2014 Updates
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtjAQqwZGn4

      Other get the rad word out resources for you:
      http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation/comment-page-13#comment-478924

      Get the rad word out, People.

      • hbjon hbjon

        It will be too bad of news and too bad for news. The buzz kill happened on 3/11/11.

        • Boohoo. Better one know than none.

          8-31-2014 Dana Update
          Fukushima: The Sun Does Not Create Man Made Ionized Elements
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRyQ9Q6khZs

          For those with morals, boots and boats on.

          • hbjon hbjon

            Perhaps our experimental power source is a little harsh on the ant farms. Send in the jackbooted thugs to beat them down, put them on boats, and/or railroad them to death camps. We must stop creating undesirables that we eventually will need to sterilize. It is a civilization ending vicious cycle. (Hitler rant over)

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            Besides, it's never one or the other. It is always both/and. It is always radiation from the sun plus all the other radionuclides in the environment accumulating from 1940 plus all the other dioxins and toxins. All the ionizing radiation and all the other pathogens, toxins, viruses, etc. work together with a synergy that makes the whole much worse than the sum of the parts. It is obvious that all life on earth is dying rapidly and this toxic dump will never recover as all the radiation will last millions of years at the very least.

            • hbjon hbjon

              I admire your ability to be a tall glass of water, and the data is very useful to help comprehend our day to day struggles with the observed phenomena that is spooned to us, spoon by agonizing spoonful. I wonder if the heaviest elements would really take that long to filter out of our environment. Millions?

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                It's more like billions of years:
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radioactive_isotopes_by_half-life

                Mining of uranium and then creating radionuclides that don't occur in nature was a deal breaker.

              • nedlifromvermont

                Let's not give up the ship quite yet … there is still time to figure out why it is we have hit this radioactive "iceberg" thingy …

                J.P. Morgan only owned 19% of the Morgan banking conglomerate upon his death, it turns out …

                Apparently he was carrying water for the Rothschilds …

                The plot thickens …

                Hint: it was not the 'Titanic' which plummeted to the ocean bottom before 'help' arrived on the morning of April 12, 1912 …

                Things just never are the way they seem to be, to contemporaries … it takes fifty to seventy-five years for the truth to come out … or one hundred and two …

                Think: Titanic; Lusitania; Reichstag fire; Pearl Harbor; Gulf of Tonkin; JFK assassination; World Trade Center … you get the picture; all false flag events …

                Big Nuke greedy idiots killed rooftop solar in the 1970's … Khomeini was sent back to Iran … and now we have permanent war economy due to Islamic terrorism … the whole Sunni-Shiite split is a succession struggle gone bad and now replayed for fourteen centuries …

                Who is the puppet master? Goebbels is dead … … or is he?

                • PlowboyGrownUp

                  Puppetmasters at this point IMO it's

                  Apparently he was carrying water for the Rothschilds …

                • Cisco Cisco

                  If we hadn't been so thoughtless and uninformed, we might have had more time.

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    Those that are smarter and with power are raping the planet and the rest of us along with it… 🙁

                  • Cisco Cisco

                    Obe…Aside from Fuku, we were doomed before, to a sooner than expected extinction. It's been discussed by 2 noted economists, that we are/have been for a decade consuming/using 1.6 to 1.8 times the planet's resources; and, that's unsustainable. My research supports those estimations.

                    Many populations globally are already suffering, sick and prematurely dying, from polluted air and water and contaminated food (pesticides, herbicides, GMO's, et al); and, here in some regions in North America, that wave is already upon us. All of these conditions are working to compromise all biological immune systems, setting up these populations for bacterial and viral attacks, (In 1919 Flu killed 50-100 million worldwide…maybe 3X that…this time?) as well as all the other dozens of autoimmune diseases.

                    All nuclear (fission, waste, and medical) is turbo charging the speed of our extinction. Fuku is the infinitely massive multiplier…maybe a 1000X, conservatively?

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      It's a grab bag of, get all you can, as fast as you can, and don't look back… 🙁

                      Yes, we are all screwed at this point…the human wake is vast and way too large.

                      Greed has a way of doing that with everything it touches. 🙁

                      Greed has been/is the only reason for the pending demise of this once beautiful planet..

                      Education..what has it been good for?

                • 4Yahshua

                  9~1~5995(out of 6000)in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse! Last evil days of "Manmean"!
                  Yes! Yahshua the Messiah returns VERY SOON! HalleluYah! (Hebrew:Praise ye Yah!)

                  This 33 year Bush Senior New World Order under the Vatican's Christian Cross (the #666 in Greek, Greek Diaglott,Free on The Web). Jeb Bush is now being touted as a "frontrunner" in 2016. Northern attack against Israel AND U.S. by Russia, Iran, and friends will happen SOON! (10~4~14, Yom kippur, Yahweh's Day of Atonement?) The sealed in Yahweh and His Son Yahshua will be SAVED! Revelation 14:1

            • We Not They Finally

              anne, you're right, it's about SYNERGY. Like all things work together for bad…

      • We Not They Finally

        chemfood, we love Dana! (beautifulgirlbydana) He's the one doing the best work with the Pacific Northwest near Vancouver.

        • KANYUN

          Let us all wish Dana good weather and kindness on his venture. I would like to see connecting dots join up at the same locations for a comparison of the data.

          Truth shall overcome.

          We just bought a lockable petrol cap for our Ute. Lockable petrol caps stop people putting sugar in your tanks. $20.00¢ well spent.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Wounds this significant must impact ability to survive."

    In other words.. many are dying…

  • 2014 Salmon Second Mass Die Off In Progress From Fukushima Radiation? First Mass Die Off From Dams, Running The Gauntlet; PBS Nature; via A Green Road
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/05/salmon-running-gauntlet.html

  • alasanon

    What a truly great Fish!!.. So nourishing, so versatile, so vital.

    If you've ever had truly well-prepared Salmon, it's spectacular!!
    But, these fish are not doing well.

    Don't they mention something about the "death of the seas" in the Book of Revelations?? The magnitude of this tragedy is reaching Biblical proportions.

    • alasanon

      We still have fish farms, but it doesn't compare to Wild-caught salmon from the Pacific Northwest and Alaska… That was The Best.

      …and now it's in the direct path of Fukushima-poisoned currents. 🙁

      Whoever allowed this to happen–you are losing outstanding cuisine for your lifetime. This natural treasure was one of a kind!…

    • We Not They Finally

      alasanon, I think it was one-third of the sea dying in Revelation. But people get freaky about prophecy. They say, you see, it's "a sign" — then they they feel all self-righteous and religious and that somehow it's like a GOOD thing because it was prophecied.

      It's a TERRIBLE thing, whoever predicted it or when!

      But don't worry so much about gourmet salmon. It just says that people ongoing will have less to eat. It may be about subsistence level soon enough, especially for populations right on the ocean.

      • It is the reddening sky from "smoke" that is described as knocking the moonlight then the Sun out. This would be the QED change of the ocean turning red from Ba137 turning the sky and ocean purple/red (the color known as blood. So it is not so to speak real blood, it is the color of said blood. Go ahead folks crucify me again.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Yes, see the references to "Wormwood" and "one third of the seas shall die and all the creatures in them" (loosely translated) in the Book of Revelation. I don't think we're quite there yet, but yes, mass extinctions were prophesized. Not that this situation isn't very bad, by any means.

  • OldFool

    I remember reading that commercial fish farms are Absolutely Perfect breeding grounds for growing pathogenic bacteria and fungi to attack the flesh of wild fish. I wonder if this is an example of what the fish farms are doing to the ocean. Yet, so many things appear to be happening in the Pacific since 3/11/11, some direct or indirect causation would seem possible from 3/11/11.

    • OldFool

      The assertion that lampreys are causing all of these wounds on such a vast number of fish appears logically unlikely unless there has been a truly astronomical population explosion in lampreys.

      • PurpleRain PurpleRain

        They do sort of look like blood-sucker bites from the photo's shown though, don't they? What else would make small round little bites?

      • There could be another explanation. Maybe because of the death of the Pacific Ocean, the lamprey are having trouble finding hosts. (They are a parasite/ blood sucking fish.) So when the odd salmon wanders by, the ravenously hungry lamprey lurch and bite!

        This could connect the "lamprey numbers are falling" dot, with the "what's taking chunks out of salmon" dot.

  • VyseLegendaire VyseLegendaire

    These news stories aren't getting better now are they…

  • WWJD WWJD

    I agree, these news stories do keep getting worse. Very sad to be witnesses to all of this.

  • sayonara kitty sayonara kitty

    ill miss your comments johnny blade, love to you and yours

  • Nigwil

    This is So Karma! In denial since the earthquake hit the plant and the sailors were irradiated, and now it arrives rotting on the doorstep. Suk on that USA!

    • 53rockwell 53rockwell

      That really pisses me off. I recommended navy to my son as a safe alternative to USMC or army. I was wrong.!

      • 53rockwell 53rockwell

        There is no safe alternative anymore.
        Kansas has gone BYE BYE Dorthy. Matrix, reference…This is the real. You choose the Red Pill baby!Go all the way back home,all the way to Valhalla. Fuck the Jew Bitches Zion.,Racist. Yeh….

        • 53rockwell 53rockwell

          You gotta b that way sometimes . I hope yall understand.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

          Your racism will come back to haunt you. Why don't you try reading Romans for a change.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            53R, looks like youre in trouble with On High. Youve been hereby judged as being judgmental. But anne, why not let us who are no strangers to hypocrisy; the codes who are quick to judge the judgmental, …the ones who hold no pious foot in the door to salvation….cast the first stone. Thats what I do, I take the fall so the righteous need not. And besides you deprive me of righteous indignation! My rabbi suggested this; Romans 2:1. And this excuse doesnt stand "I didnt judge, I pray for those who sin" Leave the hypocrisy to us 🙂

            • 53rockwell 53rockwell

              I dont pay much attention to comments from Jews or Niggers:)Thanks for the Heads up code.

              • zogerke zogerke

                ah rockwell, its been a while. Thanks. In YOUR name, I shall follow thruuuuuu on $$$ donations to the NAACP…….to the Shalom Center (again)….and to Truah: North American Rabbis for Human Rights. Tra la lah. Your red neck makes my little bit of green travel widely…..

                zogerke

              • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

                53rockwell
                August 24, 2014 at 11:29 pm · Reply

                Hey yall. I been gettin drunk, and coming on here and raising hell for the last3 or 4 months. Im trying to get my shit together,and quit that. I apologize to all I have offended. And all Ive entertained with my crazy, half baked bullshit. . I will endeavor to be a sober contributing menber of this board fron this day forward. Can I get another chance?.Thank you if you answered yes..Shit everybody needs a second chance sometime.

                —————————-

                53rockwell
                September 1, 2014 at 6:03 pm · Reply

                I dont pay much attention to comments from Jews or Niggers:)Thanks for the Heads up code.

                —————————-

                This is a international forum reaching out to readers of all ages from all layers/levels of many different cultures and society's , take your aryan suckerhood filth somewere else…

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              Code, I was thinking of chapter 11. Rockwell in the past has professed to being a Christian:
              http://www.gci.org/bible/rom11

    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

      Thats kind of mean, Nigwil. America is a beautiful country, a melting pot of beautiful people from all over the world. Washington, on the other hand is batshit crazy and dripping in blood. Don't tie us all in with that crowd. Unfortunately Americans have been spoonfed war propaganda for years and quite frankly are clueless about our foreign policy. They truly believe they are defending the world from tyranny and spreading democracy. When I try to tell people we are an empire, they look at me like I'm insane. Anyway, aside from all of that, its not just America that will reap this karma, its the entire biosphere. We are all in this together. One. Grieving for this teardrop of a planet, that is our mother and our home. The least we can do is put aside the illusions and the hate that got us here and try to comfort one another the best we can. It may be too late to save our home, but its never too late to save our soul.

  • devark devark

    And sadly this is only the beginning

  • 53rockwell 53rockwell

    If they ban ya you can still read the posts. Speak your mind.
    No Fear.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    THE WORLD'S OCEAN . . .

    Mass die-offs and weird illnesses happening continually since Fukushima.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    The problem with blaming ..the large number of wounds on Lamprey..is that Lamprey numbers along with other fish has been declining

    UI study launched to boost fish stocks

    Summer research aims to increase salmon, trout, lamprey
    July 11 2013

    http://www.cdapress.com/news/outdoors/article_fcb5fd6f-8a0c-5485-92d0-4108568d1021.html

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Elmer Crow Jr.

      "
      On July 26, 2013, Elmer Crow Jr. perished in the process of rescuing two of his grandsons from the Snake River at Buffalo Eddy. He died saving those he loved, at a place that he loved and in a river he loved.

      Elmer was born March 24, 1944, in Orofino, to Elmer Crow Sr. and Hattie Joy. His blind grandmother Edna Miller took the responsibility of raising Elmer and instilling in him the traditions and culture of the Nez Perce and Cayuse tribes"
      "
      Around the time of Elmer's heart problems, the already-low Pacific lamprey returns to Idaho began to plummet. Once returning in the millions, in 2009 only 12 lamprey passed Lower Granite Dam, the last major dam before they reached Idaho. Elmer took up this cause, pouring his heart and soul into ensuring the lamprey – or "eels" as he always called them – would be rescued from the brink of extinction. He worked tirelessly with tribal, state, and federal agencies in his mission to save them. He almost single-handedly drove lamprey recovery from obscurity to a funded, active program with regional support. Now huge agencies feature eels in their lists of priorities, and "Eelmer" (as he was known) is responsible for that."

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        (cont.)

        "His actions not only resulted in a Nez Perce translocation program – where lamprey trapped at lower Columbia River dams are transported to Idaho to be released in tributaries throughout north central Idaho to spawn naturally – but also drove federal and state policy and program management changes to provide resources for this under-appreciated and forgotten fish. His passion and concern was contagious, instilling many people, from federal agencies to the general public, with a desire to help the lamprey and an appreciation for Elmer himself. Driving home after the tragedy, one of the grandsons he had helped rescue asked Lynda, "Oh no! What is going to happen to Papa's eels?" That this was what his grandson thought of, at such a time of loss, is testament to Elmer's teaching and dedication, as well as confirmation that his work to bring back the eels will live on."

        http://lmtribune.com/obituaries/article_268f0e5c-0b56-5b5e-935b-c958cbb32b02.html

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          ….A moment of reflection beside the campfire.
          Drums cease ..leaving only our pounding hearts..
          Dream well ..Enenews.

          • PurpleRain PurpleRain

            That's really wonderful to learn about. Thank you.

          • ISeePinkClouds

            Awesomely interesting and timely story Heart. Great interlude too. "Eelmer"! Funny. Just to think, the Nez Perce and the Cayuse survived Western Expansionism. Maybe that shows there is still hope for Life still; maybe even Human life. Love, compassion, and surely some hard work on Eelmer Crow's part saved the Lamprey. What great power we Humans have to change things for the better. I say we take a lesson from Eelmer, and see if just maybe those tactics will work for us today. Can love, compassion, and hard work turn things around for all Life, including Humans? I don't know, but…isn't it worth a try? I think it is. In fact, I think it is what we are trying to do here. Great Story Heart. peace

        • We Not They Finally

          It's a negative human trait to blame one (species, race, person, whatever) for the death of another, or to say that one has the right to live, but not another. Nature,as humanity found it, was A BALANCE. That's been wrecked to pieces.

    • 53rockwell 53rockwell

      I am a christian. I visiit the poor ,and feed the widow, and i go to visit mofos injail. Im tu

  • Ron

    The other day I was driving on the freeway through Pismo Beach. I usually smell a welcome scent of salt and freshness. This time I detected a strange smell of death and decay that I don't remember ever smelling before. I wasn't thinking about this N thing when it unexpectedly assaulted my nose.

    I am one to play "devil's advocate" and try not to make assumptions, so maybe I was wrong.

    Still it is clear the Nuke Establishment are not doing anything to resolve this crisis and would rather engage in public relations damage control, so people expecting help from them are wasting their time. We need innovators who care, to come up with a way of stopping this Fukushima Godzilla now. Then we need to stop nuke power worldwide.

    Just think, there are 500 or so of the death machines scattered across the globe just waiting for an accident to begin melting down and spewing their poisons.

    • +1

      The nose knows. 😉
      Good observation.

      Common sense says…

      "Not trying to be a buzz kill here, just concerned."
      – Fish 'Sniffer' Forum

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      I would think if you have a technology operating on a small planet.. that you can not control when it fails…the very next step would be to shut down all Nuclear Reactors worldwide until you can stop the technology assault now occurring and figure out why it can't be stopped when it fails.

      Only then after the complete shut down of all of them worldwide would you sacrifice yourself for such a noble cause and potential death sentence.

      Common sense alludes us humans way too often/too many times..

  • tbg

    Another interesting story I saw that other day about more Washington wildlife behavior. All these stories are momentarily blips in time never to be heard from again, but so many things on so many levels here.

    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Squirrely-Problem-273253901.html

    Last summer I saw bald eagles almost daily on the way to, or at work. That seemed like a lot more than the previous 2 years when I saw them maybe a couple times a week, and back then then they were usually floating up in the convergence zone. This summer I saw one. I wonder how those wa dept of wildlife radiological impact surveys are coming along. Oh yeah… there's no impact here.

  • fredquimby fredquimby

    There is a lady called Alexandra Morton who in 2010 or so was screaming that it was the fish farms (in this region) that were producing infected fish (with lice) that would also effect the wild salmon as they swam past.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Morton

    • We Not They Finally

      That may be. But obviously something WAY GREATER than that or any one factor, is in play now. The balance is gone. The immune systems are weakening. Fewer of everything survives, including the poor salmon. (Well, maybe more predators survive. Sure that the radiation-eating black fungus will survive, anyway.)

    • Super viruses, super bacteria, invasive bugs and animals, all are part of what is going on.

      But underneath, one cannot ignore and completely dismiss cumulative, chronic radiation exposure on the food web.

      After Chernobyl, 70% of the radiation problem in children was due to food and drinks, not outside of the body radiation exposure.

      People are looking in the wrong direction; freaking out about radiation in the water.. That is the LEAST of our concerns, even though it is an issue.

      The MAJOR issue is internal, coming in via radiation inside food and drinks.

      What is the effect of FUKU radiation on the food web?

      What is the effect of internal Fuku radiation on children, in the US?

      That needs to be studied, measured and documented.

      Almost nothing is happening there.. zilch.

    • ISeePinkClouds

      Not from low to high level, I hope. Shut them down. Shut all of them down. No more Nuclear Waste. No more Nuclear Anything. Encase, Entomb, and Guard in Place. Everything radioactive. It must be done. peace

  • dan dan

    @johnny
    Don't take it personally mate. We all get moderated from time to time.

    Let me tell you a little story.

    When I first started out on the site, my cracked sense of humour would get me heaps of after hours visits from the admin fairy.

    She used to flutter in though my bedroom window on those tiny gossamer wings and swirl around my room, spirals of golden magic dust sparkling in the candle light, all fantasy and lace and then she'd wiggle her tiny finger and 'tut tut' me for one thing or another that I had wroten here (sic) then kiss me soundly on the cheek to encourage me to straighten up and fly right, and away out the window and off into the sunset with a cheery bye bye she would go and all would be fine.

    Its a tougher world out there now Johnny…..now she just kicks my door in, mugs me, confiscates my mouse and eats my chocolate. Go figure.

  • rogerthat

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128283.100-scaremongering-about-fukushima-radiation-is-damaging.html#.VARjxELLjao
    Scaremongering about Fukushima radiation is damaging
    02 September 2011
    ALARMIST predictions that the long-term health effects of the Fukushima nuclear accident will be worse than those following Chernobyl in 1986 are likely to aggravate harmful psychological effects of the incident. That was the warning heard at a conference on radiation research in Warsaw, Poland, this week.
    "We've got to stop these sorts of reports coming out, because they are really upsetting the Japanese population," says Gerry Thomas at Imperial College London, who is attending the meeting. "The media has a hell of a lot of responsibility here, because the worst post-Chernobyl effects were the psychological consequences and this shouldn't happen again."
    Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency report that the release of radioactivity from Fukushima is about 10 per cent that of Chernobyl. "The Japanese did the right thing, providing stable iodine to ensure that radioactive doses to children were minimal," Thomas says…
    – this is in New Scientist. I hope some of the people who work there are embarrassed.

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Let me show you how bright (sarc) this woman is:

      "How does Fukushima compare to Chernobyl?
      Professor Gerry Thomas, who has studied the aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster, said: "It is very unlikely that this will turn into anything that resembles Chernobyl.
      "In Chernobyl you had a steam explosion which exposed the reactor core, which meant you had a lot of radiation shooting up into the atmosphere."
      Prof Thomas said although the Chernobyl disaster had led to a rise in thyroid cancer cases, the only people affected were those living in the immediate area of the explosion

      This shows how little she understands about what has/is happened at Fukushima.

      "and who were young at the time."

      http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=victims+of+chernobyl&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=victims+of+chernobyl&sc=5-20&sp=-1&sk=

      Yes…YES ..they were young.
      It affects the young ..the worst.

      She makes me sick..

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        Let me fix this..
        This is her whole quote..

        "How does Fukushima compare to Chernobyl?
        Professor Gerry Thomas, who has studied the aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster, said: "It is very unlikely that this will turn into anything that resembles Chernobyl.
        "In Chernobyl you had a steam explosion which exposed the reactor core, which meant you had a lot of radiation shooting up into the atmosphere."
        Prof Thomas said although the Chernobyl disaster had led to a rise in thyroid cancer cases, the only people affected were those living in the immediate area of the explosion and who were young at the time."

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Love pictures/images.. 🙂

        The truth about this Nuclear poison has ben hidden from public view for way to long.. 🙁

        Agree..she is an idiot!

      • ISeePinkClouds

        Me too Heart. I think my Daughter, a Triathelete, who lives far from Fukushima, and had her Thyroid removed this past Christmas due to Thyroid Cancer, might like to share a few choice words on the topic with Prof Gerry Thomas. She might truly say, "Its people like you that made me sick, and you still make me sick today." Sad, really sad.

    • We Not They Finally

      They never ensured that iodine doses to children were minimal. They apparently did just one pill per person for SOME (few! of the population, and many days or weeks later, after they were already hit AND ONGOING. That's pretty much "nothing."

      But I guess that all it takes is a psyche to cause thyroid cancer or leukemia? Do these people even believe their own propaganda?

  • jackassrig

    I've been tagged a couple times. In the good ole days the entire post disappeared. I never got comment for moderation. I guess the tag is in the ear like an ole cow. My number is 510.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "The more rash like lesions may be a bit different with respect to potential causes."

    Navy Sailor: Crew members lost control of their bowels after Fukushima radiation exposure, as skin rashes developed; “It was a real big problem” — Congress signs bill making military conduct health survey (VIDEO)

    Jan 14 2014

    http://enenews.com/navy-sailor-crewmembers-lost-control-of-bowels-after-fukushima-radiation-exposure-skin-rashes-appeared-it-was-a-real-big-problem-congress-signs-bill-making-govt-conduct-health-survey-video

    "During the military operation Desert Storm in 1991, many soldiers were diagnosed with extensive uranium exposure. Those soldiers experienced rashes, kidney problems, respiratory difficulties and cataracts."

    http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/toxic-metals/dangers-of-uranium

    Rashes….

  • rogerthat

    http://www.botics.com/2014/08/31/energysolutions-secures-fukushima-decontamination-contract/

    http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/townsville/uranium-site-sparks-fear-of-nuclear-crisis/story-fnjfzsax-1227043386182
    TAKEMI Shirado’s Iwaki house was destroyed and his land contaminated in the Fukushima nuclear crisis of 2011.
    But he said Fukushima farmers lost more than their livelihoods: their hopes, dreams and future disappeared with their crops.
    “People don’t buy the food if people know it has come from Fukushima,” Mr Shirado said.
    “They can’t serve their products but still they keep producing it, but they have no hope.”
    Mr Shirado moved to Townsville in 2011 with the mission of establishing the Iwaki Rice Growing Project to assist the farmers of Fukushima by finding new land for them to grow rice. …

  • rogerthat

    http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2014/08/31/3130695_2-more-hanford-tanks-declared.html?rh=1
    2 more Hanford tanks declared empty of waste
    Annette Cary, Tri-City Herald August 31.
    Hanford workers have emptied waste to legal requirements from two more of the nuclear reservation's leak-prone underground tanks …
    – find out what empty ''to legal requirements'' means in reality

  • Cooter

    Lampreys are parasitic and must travel faster through the water to attach themselves to the salmon. Most salmon can out swim a lamprey, unless the salmon is compromised in some way or another. Lampreys also do not kill their host, as this would be bad for the lamprey and the host, a no win situation for both.

    These salmon have been compromised by their environment. A previous article stated that salmon were making a detour South around the Queen Charlotte Islands to reach their breeding grounds, further using up stored fat for spawning by swimming long distances not usually traveled.

    Having fished SE Alaska for four seasons for salmon and with each set bringing in 25 to 200 salmon I have only seen a handful of salmon with "eel" marks. These wounds were old and had healed over but left a perfect circle the size of a dime. The only other thing wrong with the salmon was they were smaller in size, but otherwise appeared healthy.

    These salmon now can't swim fast enough to evade the lamprey and are an easy target. The real story is the salmon's compromised health and not the eel as they have co-existed for thousands of years.

  • rogerthat

    http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0001537088
    Only 31% of local govts set emergency evacuation sites
    September 01, 2014
    The Yomiuri Shimbun
    Only 31 percent of local municipalities have designated “emergency evacuation sites” where residents can take shelter in the event of a disaster, a Yomiuri Shimbun survey has found.
    Under the Disaster Countermeasures Basic Law, which was revised and put into effect in April, local municipalities are required to designate and inform residents of such evacuation sites, which are categorized by such disaster types as flood, sediment disaster, earthquake, tsunami, and volcanic eruption. …

    • We Not They Finally

      AND…. people have been forced to move back to heavily contaminated areas or lose their living stipends. (See Gundersen interview with a Japanese woman.) So they grow and sell contaminated food and get diseases themselves, or they don't survive. It's grotesque.

  • KANYUN

    THE nuvisible signs of ecological disaster. It's become infinity Nuclear.

  • Tung Jen Tung Jen

    Yeah Johnny don't leave us, do enjoy your comments.. I think not taking things personally is my lesson for today. I woke up this morning with the same old reoccurring dream where/when my husband comes back to the Farm with a party of people. I am really stressed and feel so disconnected from the crowd of these cool people… chilling out. I'm the downer the party crasher all worked up and spoiling the atmosphere. I wake up feeling very depressed and frustrated, yet my image of myself was like and out of control bitch having a tantrum screaming for attention.. … I receive no communication from colleagues, friends or students living in Japan. I pretty much stay on the farm and keep busy with the day to day challenges…. Enenews ers keep me on my path to understanding what I need to be doing. I take all of this way to personal….

  • Tung Jen Tung Jen

    Yeah Johnny don't leave us, do enjoy your comments.. I think not taking things personally is my lesson for today. I woke up this morning with the same old reoccurring dream where/when my husband comes back to the Farm with a party of people. I am really stressed and feel so disconnected from the crowd of these cool people… chilling out. I'm the downer the party crasher all worked up and spoiling the atmosphere.

  • Tung Jen Tung Jen

    Messing up on messaging in the right places, sorry about that folks!

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    It's always a mystery.
    Some garble as to how things led up to this..

    But..there is something else going on..
    My, oh ,my ..what ever could the matter be?

    Marine birds disappearing from US Pacific Northwest coast

    " Even so, other scientists say these environmental systems remain far too complicated for researchers to know for sure. We often don’t know enough yet to say where things are headed. Gaydos put the bird decline picture this way. “Something’s happening on a big level,” he said. “But what is it?”
    9/01 /2014

    http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Environment/2014/09/01/Plummeting-bird-population/

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Just a little something ..I'd like to ask ..scientists involved in ocean studies, etc…
    Perhaps ask those Navy folks..

    Birds land on piers ..don't they?

    Scripps Oceanography Pier Cam

    https://scripps.ucsd.edu/piercam

  • Jebus Jebus

    I think a moment to remember is apropo.

    Martha, thought to be the world's last passenger pigeon, died on September 1, 1914, at the Cincinnati Zoo.

    Human self destruction is not gonna stop unless humans stop it.

    The creatures don't have a chance…

  • Socrates

    I just cannot eat fish anymore. Meat is too far up the food chain. I eat non-fat, organic Greek yogurt to reduce uric acid levels and grain-fed chicken egg whites with an occasional yolk (no fish meal-fed chicken eggs). The rest is organic vegetables and fruits.

    I would cut out the eggs, too, but then I would have to eat breakfast alone. The rest of the family will be eating salmon today for lunch. I really don't miss all that sushi, clams, lobster, and shrimp when I think of what it might contain.

    The ocean is sick. I spent 60 years fishing, diving, surfing, windsurfing, body surfing, and sailing. Nuclear energy is more important than all the food and sports, right? Get your priorities straight!

  • 53rockwell 53rockwell

    Ok . I think I have a new enemy:) Code shutdown. I guess my excessive verbage pissed him off.
    ::)
    i dont want no Feuds, I have had enough

    • SadieDog

      What happened to not being a drunken douchebag anymore?

    • Sparky Sparky

      53R [or 59.5R, or whatever], So now you have a problem with CodeShutdown??? I must have missed his "offensive" comment although I looked through the thread. But I sure saw your comments:

      53rockwell, August 31, 2014 at 11:59 pm .
      "….Fuck the Jew Bitches Zion.,Racist. Yeh…."
      53rockwell, September 1, 2014 at 6:03 pm .
      "I dont pay much attention to comments from Jews or Niggers:)Thanks for the Heads up code."

      Really Rockwell, could you please just spare us your tedious, ignorant, racist, alcohol-infused, incoherent zingers? Please take that shit somewhere else, to some hate-site rather than mucking-up Enenews and attempting to create conflict among 'Newsers.

      While seasoned 'Newsers can place your offensive comments in context [consider the source], Newcomers may be understandably put-off and miss/misconstrue all that Enenews and the greater 'Newser community have to offer.

      I thought you were trying to clean-up your act, not just here on Enenews, but also in your daily life. What happened??? Maybe it was your alter ego, 59.5R, that was trying to practice a little self-respect and respect for others. Clue: you're never gonna find it in a bottle.

      Bring the other guy back, please, 'cuz this guy is wasting valuable Enenews/'Newsers' time and space.

  • 53rockwell 53rockwell

    Yeh , I called ya fool.Welcome to Texas . Now go home

  • 53rockwell 53rockwell

    Screw Yo codeshutdown, Eat my shorts

  • rogerthat

    MM: ''Washington, on the other hand is batshit crazy and dripping in blood.''
    – quote of the day

  • danger kitty danger kitty

    Rockwell,
    Glad to hear you don't want no feuds, me neither. You're a drunken- posting redneck but you're OUR redneck. It was kind of cute; but no longer. Flinging the n- word around does nothing to crush the nuke industry. We're about to get a flood of newcomers, the tide of awareness is tipping, let's not give anyone an excuse to turn away from the horror of radiation.
    Please turn your considerable energies to ripping the heart out of nuke, go for the throat, too. You can do it man; and an apology to Code Shutdown would be nice, get you an upgrade on your rack in heaven.
    your friend, kitty

  • jimbob jimbob

    I woke up one morning a few weeks ago with what looked like a burn on my ankle, it had not been there when I went to bed.

    It looked much like those pictures of the open sores on the Salmon.

    I don't believe I have an infestation of Lampreys in my bed!

    I suspect it may have been from a hot particle I picked up while working outside, I have never had anything like it before.

    It has since healed but it was a strange thing and I showed it to my landlord who had been an operating room nurse for many years.

    She said it was obviously a burn but how does one burn himself while sleeping in bed?

    It was about the size of a nickel, in both diameter and depth, perhaps a bit deeper.

    I don't know what caused it but I treated it with home remedies and now it is only a light rash.

  • 53rockwell 53rockwell

    http://youtu.be/FgBi3Ttm9t0
    I got this drinking thing . To keep from thinking thing.
    \

    • danger kitty danger kitty

      O.K. Rockwell, I hear you about the drinking' to keep from thinkin' thing. I rolled that way for a spell. I would never report for battle duty in that configuration, tho. This is holy work we do here, crushing nuke with the facts, let's do it right. Seems like a simple solution for you is don't drink and post, lol. When you report for battle duty, we want all of your considerable self.
      Still your friend, kitty
      periscope down.

  • 53rockwell 53rockwell

    All kooll. goode comments folk. But canwe please take some positve actions. ?Eh ? Give me A LiKe

    • danger kitty danger kitty

      Rockwell, now we're getting to the heart of the matter. Your words: "But canwe
      please take some positve actions. ?Eh ?
      Give me A LiKe"
      A highly trained combatant with a defined enemy does not like idleness. It hurts,I know. So, here's a mission for ya, should you choose to accept:
      Remember I posted that leaves on ash trees (Fraxinus sp.) are mutating, and that ash trees are an indicator species for gamma radiation? Well, Texas has a number of fine ash species.
      So:
      1) search the web for images of normal fraxinus leaves.
      2) scoot over to nuclear arborist on tweeter to see mutated leaves. They're pretty wild.
      3) find ash trees in your town, find the mutant leaves. a 6 foot pruner pole would help.
      4) I hear Quest Labs will test for free.
      5) take test results and photos of the mutant leaves to……? Town council, health dept. colleges? Make noise at grass roots, it'll build in volume. Radiation is no longer invisible.
      Search and destroy…nuclear Marine,
      Sgt. kitty

  • 53rockwell 53rockwell

    I have no idea why my shit rambling talk is double Posting?
    I go baxk and dellete thr dups. I try. It is not me:) Im working hard

  • David R. Canada

    Remember those GMO salmon that were released from El Salvador last year?
    Do you remember the results of the tests performed by the group in Edmonton, who also sounded the warning of what happened when those fish got hungry? They'll bite into and eat anything that moves!
    Well… it looks like the huge die-off in the Pacific due to Fukushima may have made those FrankenFish very hungry! The sardine catch off the west coast of N. America was a total failure this year. This is one of the small fish that the larger fish consume.
    Over the next couple of years we may see the total destruction of all salmon in the Pacific.
    Of course these people who are responsible will never be held accountable; it'll all be blamed on Fukushima.

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