Alaska Marine Expert: We really need to look at what’s happening to ecosystem from Fukushima radiation — Models don’t address ongoing releases at plant — “A lot of unknowns, a lot of uncertainties” — Ships are sampling for everything but radionuclides — Could be affecting animals (AUDIO)

Published: January 23rd, 2014 at 2:36 pm ET
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Doug Dasher, University of Alaska Fairbanks researcher, Nov. 6, 2013:

At 7:00 in

The concern has been we have these models indicating the potential for levels to increase, potentially up to what they saw in the levels in the North Pacific during the 1960s nuclear testing. That still would not indicate an immediate health problem or exceeding the FDA guidelines. But there’s a lot of unknowns, a lot of uncertainties. There are others that also have the same message that they want to get out, we really need to sample to understand this and we really need to look at what’s happening out there in the ecosystem at the same time. There’s an opportunity to do this. It’s a huge amount of initial release, and the models do not address the continuing release. Fukushima has continued to leak […] Run-off problems from the water they’re trying to pump out and contain on the site. The tanks are leaking, several typhoons have been through there this year. […] So there’s a lot of things taking place, it’s not a stable site. There’s that issue too, which we need to know what’s going on there now, so in case something else happens, we can be better prepared for it. And account for the accumulating long term leakage for at least the next couple of years as it continues to occur.

At 23:00 in

You do have ships and programs going on that may be sampling marine waters for everything else but radionuclides, so you’re not necessarily directing that a ship has to go out solely at cost to sample for radionuclides. You’re looking at adding this on to another program.

At 43:00 in

The projections… say nothing about any ecological risk […] no concrete information to even delve into making a real judgment on any type of risk to the ecosystem. That’s one of the things with stellar sea lions, if you have an impacted stellar sea lion population like there was in the Aleutians, but it’s different things, climate change, whatever contaminants, then suddenly you throw radionuclides back into the mix where they disappeared, they can have an effect, may not affect a healthy animal, but an animal that’s already impaired that’s like an extra burden, Who knows. But the information’s not out there.

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Published: January 23rd, 2014 at 2:36 pm ET
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  • Ontological Ontological

    "It’s a huge amount of initial release, and the models do not address the continuing release". Good call, get those ships outfitted with detectors for radionuclides that are out there. The whole Devils brew recipe, may shock some of us out here into action.

  • Nick

    …" But the information’s not out there."
    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxCtLCL7e3kyN0trTUN3a0lwYkk/edit?pli=1(from above)

    ….but the radiation is, the wonderful folks in our government just aren't testing for it!

    How are we going to know what Fukushima is doing to the earth's biosphere without proper data?

    Maybe we are all just meant to go silently into the night……lay down, and die?

    Any marine expert worth their salt should demand detailed Fukushima data. Or at least attempt to gather it. Which means testing. Testing. 123 anyone there?

  • Folks this is important. In the 1960s they were doing nuclear bomb testing in Alaska. The airborne rads alone from Fuku raised the radiation level (from 2000 miles away) the same as a nuke bomb test at ground zero. Wrap your head around that.

    The proof is here, from a 300 page gov report. My critique is in the first link, the data is in the second link, and you can download the whole 300 page report on the second link too.

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/01/further-analysis-on-2011-alaska.html

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/01/cd134-cs137-ratio-and-food-chain-in.html

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      "Folks this is important."

      Great works, Stock.

      We are blessed to have you aboard. You, and Dr Green are among the best reporters. There are many here. We all give thanks for your positive contributions to the forums here, and for all the others that contribute their light here also.

      .

    • …and it's not stopping anytime soon. 🙁

      IMO – Testing is/has been done.
      We are not and will not be privy to the information we really need and deserve.

      3 years… they've tested. They know exactly.
      They are not going to tell us. EVER!

      It's to the point now that testing may be moot.
      Just look around at all of the suffering lifeforms.

  • TepcoSievert TepcoSievert

    " … testing for everything but radio nuclides …" : same situation everywhere, same old bananas being thrown at us as if we were monkeys, as if no problem existed! We have to start putting pressure on elected politicians!

  • Nick

    The USA has a vast nuclear navy fleet that constantly monitors radiation levels of the seas and air all over the world.

    Just let some decent scientists gain access to that data.

    Pipe dream eh?

  • Jack Jack

    Of course they're testing, just not releasing their findings. You can be sure that the federal government has been monitoring all aspects of this debacle since the start but they will never publicise findings which would cast a bad light on nuke power. And you can protest all you want but the gov/industry will continue to do what it wants. Were one to become too effective at protesting, they would be silenced. (by "protest" I mean actually doing something pro-active, not just singing to the choir in a comment forum. Do you even know the name of your congressman?)

    • Donald Shimoda Donald Shimoda

      You DO know Jack!

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      "Do you even know the name of your congressman?"

      Greetings, Jack.

      Mostly true, but even more true is the FACT that the congress critters and senate toads are ALL on the zionist rottenchildkillers pay-roll. They ALL profit from death, and destruction some how.

      You are exactly correct in saying they have been monitoring this from long before the drill happened on 3-11-11. The whole Event is well planned and timed to slowly kill off those who do not care about themselves, much less the world around them.

      Jack, we must forgive them in their ignorance, for they know no better. The trickery and obfuscation of the truth is also well planned, and calculated. The TV drug has been used well to mind-kontrol and dumb down the nation of lemmings. Even though many people are waking up as you indicate, nothing is being done, nor will it ever.

      The plan for the martial law lock down using foreign troops dressed as american troops is too far along to be stopped now. The plan to kill off the American military is almost complete. They are far and few spread out all over the world as planned. Even now, more are being sent to other lands to start wars for profits and death for the gleeful entertainment of the banksters that profit from wars.

      The sad State of America is sinking, and her destruction comes not from without from known obvious enemies, no, she will die from those that are the enemies within. These congress critters and most of govt are part of that communist take…

  • harengus_acidophilus

    I see

    "Could be affecting animals"

    And I can hear them in mind:
    "The crown of creation isn't an animal!"

    Well, we'll see … soon.

    h.

  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    Here is a blast from the past…back to 3/12/2011 when we were allowed to hear that we were being dosed by Fukushima

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/16/science/plume-graphic.html?ref=science

    Now they fear testing because once you know the truth there are no denials possible.

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      "Now they fear testing because once you know the truth there are no denials possible."

      Great, News!

      Yes, those plume maps were so well done, and no doubt pretty darn accurate. The ones that the good Dr in Germany was doing were the best.

      http://www.zamg.ac.at/pict/wetter/sonderwetter/fuku/20110526_I-131_FUKU.gif

      http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=en&VAR=eurad2500

      As everyone knows, a picture tells a thousand words and a video speaks a million. When the evil that created this ELE saw that the People were SEEING the radiation, and many were, they used the power of the rottenchildkiller empire of dirt to silence every single voice in the forest of uncertainty. The world should DEMAND they be given back to the world to see.

      The maps just disappeared after a few months and have not been seen PUBLICLY ever since. You can bet your sweet bippy they are still being generated, and by the same great map makers. The sad truth is now, those maps at this point in time will not be seen by the public again, even though they are still being generated for a select few to view today. Call it, babylonian control of the visual death that is, and has been slowly killing us ALL.

      There will be NO escape from the eventuality that seems certain on this date. Perhaps some miracle can save humanity and the planet by absolutely stopping all the nuklear madness some day in the future. How many people will perish before that happens?

      .

  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    Another flashback showing the radiation coming….
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2_oDsd8B90

  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Here is the tool.

    Can anyone figure out how to do it?

    http://transport.nilu.no/flexpart

    .

  • Papa bear

    Only my family will listen.All my frieds think Im crazy. Their still surfing. I see all the people in the water everyday.Nobody understands.Their all asleep. And now we wait for waves of illness and death. God help us.

    • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

      In an insane society, the sane will appear insane. – spock

    • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

      And the crazy surfers look back at the beach, and see all the scared people huddling around looking at a mazur.

      Hell…it's sorta nice out here now, silently bobbing on the never ending free waves. No more pesky sharks to ruin your RAD day.

    • atomicistheword

      Papa bear

      They abandoned GOD, transfigured into bestial dogs eating dogs, they lost their humanity for the worship of gold and materialism. They are like locusts of ostriches burrying their heads in a fantasy world of evil and corruption. So they proudly eat of their fish. You are only a warner my friend. If they choose not to listen, their sin does not belong to you. They will awaken soon as the devils flow reaches their shores. For what is the mark of a man, 666. Even the Japanese government has admitted that this event is an act of man and not GOD.

    • tsfw tsfw

      PB according to the last Gundersen video we can surf/swim. I'm not feeling convinced by his claim. And I don't know about you, but when I body surf, I swallow water and eat sand. I still swim, but my days of spending 3 hours a day in there are over until we have some actual info we can trust. The thought of bumping into conjoined whales or hungry sharks is kind of at the back of my brain too, although logically I realize the chances of that happening are pretty slim…for now. But real or not, the thoughts are there and the ocean is tainted either way. I hope we are all proven wrong one day soon, but I'm not holding my breath ..or my snorkel.

      • tsfw tsfw

        Perhaps gundersen wasn't referring to avid swimmers. I wonder if he would spend everyday in there…we are seeing what's happening to what lives in there, why would we want to join them.

  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    Elsevier, Springer & Wiley are the three big publishing houses that own most of the worlds more than 20,000 academic journals. 1.6 million are produced yearly. The MIT's & Harvards are two names of the schools who do these Peer Review Studies on Fukushima & we pay for them. These publishers dont pay crap & chagre huge sums to the few who get to look at these studies but they do not get to keep them. This is another scam pulled over on the Tax Payer world wide. No one knows what is found in these studies except the corporations/elites who get access to them! The funds, time man hours, energy, building space we all pay for & have no clue what is in them, I would like to WHY? Any one know who these people are & how they can just do as they please?

    All Fukushima data is out there, so they can't say there is no studies being done! There is to much money changing hands!

  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    It's all wrapped up in that whole "national security" thingy.

    If they ever let open the doors of their secret vaults….the future would change in a second.

  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    I think someone on the West Coast should be ready to check rad levels after these waves come in. Hawaii also ofcourse.

    http://www.grindtv.com/action-sports/surf/post/largest-swell-in-decades-pounds-hawaii-california-is-next/

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Computer simulations are inaccurate. Sea-life die-offs are real … it's nature showing us (( man-made radiation kills )).

  • Look, they knew back in the fifties when they open air tested a bombs in nevada that cancer rates would increased over the north eastern states. No doubt they statistically found out by how much and now they can extrapolate that info to fukushima emissions.
    More people will die of cancer but……the cancer rates have been increasing since ww2 and few are complaining. Exposure from radiated seawater is a red herring. The real issue is bio accumulation of radiation in our food chain especially pacific fish. But you can just add fukushima radiation to diesel exhaust, cleaning chemicals, bacon and tobacco smoke. Many known carcinogens right down to plastic tainted water from single serve water bottles. Those in power are not your friends. Nuclear power is also tied to military interests so good luck getting real info. Just don't ask me to be respectful of any politician. Especially Obummer who it seems has worked especially hard to make Fukushima a non issue.

  • RonM RonM

    There are massive quantities of plastic debris in the Pacific, the great Pacific garbage patch and lots everywhere else, there are lots of pictures of seabirds and ocean creatures dead with there guts packed with plastic debris that is eaten because it is mistaken for food. As the tipping point is reached and the sardines and other low on the food chain fish become scarcer more of this debris will be eaten by starving marine life and the pace of death will quicken.

    The situation is grim indeed and if they have another major accident at Fukushima the reality will set in quickly when all the human mouths that are fed by Pacific Ocean based food no longer have the resource. When chaos and fighting for food begins it will not be very conducive to maintaining any other nuclear reactors in the region and the domino effect of meltdowns will quickly turn our planet into a X-RAY death zone!

    JMHO

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