Japan Expert: It was a nuclear explosion at Reactor No. 3 — I believe fuel rods were blown out of spent fuel pool

Published: December 13th, 2011 at 8:09 am ET
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Japan nuclear expert Setsuo Fujiwara’s interview with SPA magazine, published Dec. 13, 2011, translation via EX-SKF (best-effort translation without detailed technical knowledge of nuclear physics, subject to revision) [Emphasis Added]:

Background of Mr. Setsuo Fujiwara

  • Worked at Japan Nuclear Energy Safety Organization (JNES)
  • Nuclear plant inspector
  • One of those experts who know the nuclear power plant facilities and operations in great details

Nuclear Explosion at Reactor No. 3

  • “The explosion in Reactor 3 at Fukushima I Nuke Plant on March 14 was nuclear!”
  • “There was a flicker of fire”
  • “Then a vertical, black smoke up the reactor building”

Spent Fuel Pool No. 3

  • “A more important source of radioactive materials dispersed is the Spent Fuel Pools”
  • “The upper frames of the reactor building are blown off at the location of the Spent Fuel Pool”
  • I believe there was an explosion inside the SFP, and the fuel rods inside were blown out

Sequence of Events

  • “The amount of cooling water decreased in the Reactor 3 SFP prior to the explosion”
  • “Hydrogen was generated from the zircaloy-water reaction”
  • “The upper part of the cladding melted, and the pellets fell out and piled (at the bottom of the pool?)”
  • “Inside the SFP, it was like a nuclear reactor becoming critical, and the water boiled”
  • “Then there was a hydrogen explosion above the surface of the water in the SFP”
  • “Due to the pressure from the explosion, voids (steam bubbles) in the boiling water were compressed”
  • “The void coefficient was negative, so the reactivity of nuclear fission was suddenly heightened
  • “Resulting in a nuclear explosion from the prompt criticality
  • “When you see the slow-motion video of Reactor 3′s explosion, you hear three explosive sounds”
  • “It is the evidence that the nuclear explosion occurred after the hydrogen explosion”

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116 comments to Japan Expert: It was a nuclear explosion at Reactor No. 3 — I believe fuel rods were blown out of spent fuel pool

  • Whoopie Whoopie

    NEW ONE FROM TODAY – THE FRENCH MAN
    Kurihara contaminated strow stays in Kurihara: “We are paying for our ignorance!”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utKW3sbPDuA&feature=channel_video_title


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    • midwestern midwestern

      Thanks, Whoopie. So profoundly sad–some astute observations. He is right about the potential of education in and out of the classroom to encourage or inhibit the development of creative, open-minded thinkers. And that we are ALL paying for this and need to join together to forbid and condemn its continuation in NPP’s, weapons, etc..


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    • jonjon

      I don’t think this is the FRENCH MAN.. There’s another guy who is the FRENCH MAN.. he’s a lot more emotional.. THis one sounds hispanic. They do look a bit similar… I was born in france and speak fluent so I can spot the accent.


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  • Flapdoodle Flapdoodle

    A little off topic, monitor please move to an appropriate place if needed.

    I have been pleased that southern NM has been out of the jet steam until now. I have avoided going into rain and snow, but now the jet stream has bought warmer air and caused fog and mist. It occurred to me that fog and mist may be the most dangerous because small droplets have more time be exposed to Fuku particles, and they are easily inhaled.


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  • jackassrig

    Now all the “Experts” are grawling out of the woodwork to tell how it happened. Why didn’t these Sh*t for brains tell us how to avoid this mess. Oh they might loose their high paying job.


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  • Confirmed: Fukushima disaster contaminated ocean with 50 million times normal radiation, leaks still ongoing

    http://www.naturalnews.com/034395_Fukushima_cesium_radiation.html#ixzz1gQJv4z83

    Things are suddenly heating up again with Fukushima. As we reported yesterday, the southern wall of Fukushima reactor #4 apparently collapsed over the past few days, calling into question the structural integrity of the remainder of the containment building

    The mainstream media has said absolutely nothing about this development, continuing its pattern of downplaying news involving Fukushima, radiation or the flawed structure of nuclear power plants. This is hardly surprising, given that many of the largest media outlets (such as NBC and MSNBC) are owned by corporations such as General Electric, the designer of many of the world’s nuclear power plants.Photos of the failed structure have emerged on Enenews.com, where a report explains that a once-intact wall is now essentially “missing” and that further degradation of the structure could lead to mass evacuations in Japan (http://enenews.com/report-confirmed…).

    As this report is still not confirmed by other sources, we continue to take this with a sense of caution here at NaturalNews. We will continue to monitor the situation and report any relevant developments.

    50 million times higher radiation levels

    What has hit the mainstream media, however, is a report entitled Impacts of the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plants on Marine Radioactivity, authored by Ken Buesseler, Michio Aoyama, and Masao Fukasawa

    This report, published in Environmental Science & Technology, reveals that levels of radioactive cesium reached 50 million times normal levels in the ocean water off the coast of the Fukushima Dai-ichi facility. Even more concerning, the abstract of this paper concludes, “


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  • 2 high school students died in Tokyo


    2 high school students died in Tokyo

    Both of them died of cardiac arrest.
    One is a boy (17~18) ,third grade of the high school. There is no school lunch. He did not play sports hard. He was just studying for the entrance exam of university. He called in sick on 11/29/2011 ,and died the next day.

    The other one was a girl (16~17) ,second grade of the high school. She naturally had a heart problem.Her heart was smaller than usual. However ,there was no limit in her daily life. She was a cheerleader at her last sport fest. 2 days later ,she died.

    The school is in west Tokyo. No more details are announced.


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  • FDA Refuses To Monitor AK Fish – Ocean Currents Don’t Lie


    http://www.rense.com/general93/curr.htm

    In the latest example of blatant Federal negligence (coverup), the valiant and ever vigilant FDA and EPA have determined they will not be testing ANY fish from the Gulf Of Alaska. This is another egregious (not that they give a rat’s tail) abandonment of their obligation to watch over the public health and welfare. In this case, the Feds have chosen to protect the Alaskan fishing industry…the public’s right to know and to be kept safe and informed be damned.

    The Feds are already protecting the Dairy and Beef and Big Ag industries, so why not the Alaska fisheries, too.

    A simple look at the maps below tells the tale of exactly why the Feds SHOULD be monitoring ALL Pacific caught seafood.

    First off, the Kuroshio Current (also named the Black Current) flowing northbound just off the East Coast of Japan meets up with the Oyashio Current, flowing southbound next to Japan’s east coast. The two then run off together and head due EAST and become the North Pacific Current.

    The venerable North Pacific, as you will see below, jaunts straight across the Pacific and then SPLITS…with half going directly north into the Gulf of Alaska where it swirls and swirls in a sweeping counter-clockwise vortex.

    The southern portion of the split heads straight for the West Coast where it becomes the California Current as it flows south and down the West Coast into Baja California before eventually fading into the North Equatorial Current and a return trip back to Asia.


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  • Human0815

    The Spa-Magazine is not a source for accuracy!

    I would not trust them
    for Nuclear related questions!

    They are good for Restaurants,
    Pachinko and dancing, nude Girls
    but not for such an important topic!


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    • To be honest The source (promoter) may be an outside / non related party.

      However the article and author; may indeed be well spoken on these matters.

      So in truth we should be thankful that the (spa magazine) Is doing more than cnn.

      Its articles author may even be a college level physicist for all you know…

      So please be more thankful of these sources.


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      • Human0815

        For sure i am not,
        the same Magazine promote a Life-Style which led
        to this Catastrophe!

        The same Magazine promote the abuse of Women!

        The same Magazine promoted the Nuclear Complex!

        Please stop your ignorance and become more critical!


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    • dpl dpl

      Would any “credible” magazine in Japan publish an interview on this subject? It is noteworthy that an expert came forward to confirm the fact of a nuclear explosion and not just some bloggers. Did the government admit it yet?


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  • From: AlertsUSA Alert Server
    Sent: 12/12/2011 11:59:22 AM
    Subject:

    FLASH: S. wall of Fukushima reactor #4 collapsing. Structure highly
    unstable. Extremely dangerous. Bldg collapse would likely call for massive
    evac. Developing situation.

    http://sp00kje.nl/?p=9754

    Red alert: Fukushima nuclear reactor 4 possibly collapsing, say sources, mass evacuations may be necessary

    After enduring many months of total information blackout on the situation, an intelligence source connected with NaturalNews has just informed us that Fukushima Daiichi nuclear reactor 4 may now on the verge of collapsing, and that mass evacuations in northern Japan could be necessary if such a collapse occurs and is confirmed.

    NaturalNews presents this only as a precautionary alert, as we have not yet been about to double or triple confirm this report, but we are actively investigating and will bring you updates in a timely manner.

    Reactor 4, you may remember, had been given the silent treatment by the plant’s operator, the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), immediately following the massive earthquake and tsunami that struck the fragile plant back in March. For weeks, the public was left in the dark about the status of reactor 4′s cooling pools, and about whether or not the reactor’s spent fuel rods were exposed (http://www.naturalnews.com/031758_F…).

    It now appears, however, that reactor 4′s cooling tower, which had previously been reported to be leaning and in danger of falling (http://enenews.com/very-very-seriou…), is now following course with its inevitable fate, which is a possible total collapse.

    According to our source, the entire reactor 4 structure has been deemed “highly unstable,” and the south wall of the reactor appears to be headed into an imminent structural failure. ( cont: http://sp00kje.nl/?p=9754 )


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  • tomb1

    I agree with him, except one thing: The mushroom cloud was generated by a different effect than in a atomic bomb explosion.

    Atomic bomb: Incredible heat is generated and slowly the firebyll goes up, because of gravitation. Cooling down at the top causes the mushroom head.

    SFP3: The explosion caused incredible pressure in the SFP which could only escape to the top. Gases, steam and probably fuel was acceleated in the inverse direction of the pressure gradient. It resembled a big cannon firing vertically to the top.

    And yes, he only spoke out what anyone could see on youtube months ago.

    By the way: The headline begins with “ALERT”. I do not see an alert here. It is just a press release. Please, EN!


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  • I hate to say it, but this is old news. We have known since JULY that reactor #3 sfp only contains 1 discernible fuel bundle since this explosion…the rest blew up into the jet stream and was likely “vaporized” or turned into a gas (per Prof Chris Busby)…into the ocean, and all over the countryside. You probably have a few particles of this in your firewood or christmas tree :( This guy is a little late to the party.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    “GE has maintained that the design of the Mk1 reactor was, and is, superbly safe. Yet, as reported by by ieee spectrum http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/nuclear/24-hours-at-fukushima/0 the reactor pressure vessels of this design, which is copied in every unit at Fukushima, essentially were designed to have hernias in their bases. The holes and seals through which the control rods pass through to the core is at the bottom of the reactor, not the top. As soon as there there is a melt down in GE Mk1 based design, there is an easy route for melt through and escape of the molten core material from the pressure vessel. The weak spots are holes and seals the control rods pass through at the base of the pressure vessel. How did this design gain a pass from the regulators? Are they all nuts?
    http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/the-disaster-chain-at-fukushima-the-story-of-the-reactors-designed-to-have-hernias-in-their-bases/


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    • When You Combine Grown Men Holding Physics PH.D’s Who Have Have Advanced Psychological Complex’s and “Little Penis” Syndrome With Infinite Amounts Of Money And Power Being Supplied By Nihilistic Suicidal Satanists you get -

      Fukushima And The General Eugenics (not electric!) Mark-1 Death Reactor.

      GE = General Eugenics

      TEPCO = Tokyo Eugenics Pandemonium Crime Organization

      Yeah’ They Are All Nuts And Exclusively Use Only Their Reptilian Brain. What are We Gonna Do About This?

      FIGHT IT OUT! – Peacefully at least until Non-Violent Resistance Fails.


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  • aigeezer aigeezer

    We (the Good Guys) keep getting suckered into doing sensationalist responses to the deafening msm silence. We’re like little kids trying to get mom’s attention. “Mom, mom… MOM, tugs skirt, MOM MOM, makes face, MOM MOM MOM, rolls on ground, MOM MOM MOM, bursts into tears…”

    This plays into the hands of the Bad Guys, who can then dismiss us as fringe tinfoil hat types.

    The Bad Guys also troll often, here at Enenews and elsewhere, inserting tinfoil hat posts into otherwise rational threads. This helps drive away reasonable people looking for objective information.

    If you are a reasonable person looking for objective information, please, please skim over any of the noisy stuff and don’t let it get to you.

    After all, where else can you go for objective information – CNN? ;-)


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    • To the innocent readers looking for truth in regards to the fukushima crisis.

      Notice the amount of users attempting to discredit key articles on all online forums.

      These are chinese paid promoters.

      They work in vast internet lobbies with 30-50 people per room. In a complex in China. Every day they frequent assigned websites and use selected scripts to leave blog posts to minimalize the effects of the on going crisis at fukushima daichii.

      It is a rouse.

      Please ignore these posts as it is the only real truth you should acknowledge:

      This is what the writing on the wall is telling you:

      The fukushima dachii crisis is so dangerous; that top government officials have declared a state of emergency.

      In that declaration: a choice was made to misinform the general public of all nations;

      This means that the situation is so out of control, that they would rather lie to your face, than let you know the truth…

      Obviously there is a great deal of danger involved in telling the general public what the consequences of this incident are.

      A great deal of danger to me, you, and mostly our entire global political parties.

      Do not be misinformed. Take the time to dig for fukushima related articles, and combat these lies.

      It is your civic obligation to defend your own families by standing up for what is right.


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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Exactly. In fact that’s what the Nuke Trolls do to us, day in day out. There has got to be a better …. way of handling this.
      THAT very subject being discussed RIGHT NOW with a few others. I PRAY TO GOD something “comes of it”. This ISSUE will be targeting the NRC, timeline and New Info. (keep fingers crossed)


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      • aigeezer aigeezer

        Hi Whoopie. I’m thinking every forum has to deal with trolls, but Enenews’ subject matter makes it especially sensitive.

        I don’t know of any forum (on any theme) that has solved the troll problem completely. One approach that seems to work fairly well is to have moderators/administrators gently move posts to other headings – leaving a trail, no censorship. That way, if you really want to pursue someone’s post about a nuclear explosion caused by a conspiracy among the aliens from Alpha Centauri, the Zionists, the Illuminatei, and/or the Freemasons, you can pursue it in its own thread. ;-)

        One person’s troll goofiness is another person’s insightful truth-telling, even without Bad Guys deliberately adding FUD to the mix.

        Messy business.


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        • Whoopie Whoopie

          I hear ya. It’s messy but there are ways to deal with it.
          I imagine all Fukushima Blogs get HIT with Trolls. Well yes, FuDairy spoke of it. It’ll probably INCREASE as we go along here. Afterall Fukushima is far from over. :( What am I saying!?! It’ll never be over. Felt for decades to come.


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    Someone watching the live Cam stated they saw an explosion but I have checked the live cam and I don’t see any evidence of such an event taking place. I’m sure the poster was mistaken but if anyone knows something to confirm this event, please post.


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    Also, just wondering if any of you are preparing for the worse case scenario if Reactor 4 spills the beans and what your plans are. Would you head to the southern hemisphere, or just hunker down with food, water, etc. Don’t misunderstand, even without Reactor 4 taking a tumble, I believe 3 melt throughs are enough to take action.


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  • Bobby1

    The nuclear corporations don’t want us to know that earthquakes can cause meltdowns, they blamed it on the tsunami.

    The nuclear corporations don’t want us to know that their reactors can go up in an incredibly dirty nuclear explosion, either. They blamed it on a hydrogen explosion.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Google’s Updated Street View of Fukushima Makes Me Want to Cry [Fukushima] http://t.co/9iizaKRp
    4 minutes ago


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  • entropy

    Everyone is coming out for their 15 minutes of fame. Nothing worse than an arm chair quarterback. He should have come out immediately, now it’s like reporting a crime 9 months later. And the ALERT begins to think enenews is like main stream, we don’t need sensationalism, just the facts. If there is no real news, be honest.
    No disrespect, enenews has kept me informed and is usually correct. Thanks enenews!


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  • pg

    …and this is news? This makes headlines every month. Just dont get it. Almost like nuketard sheep herding. Lets take a look here…from March – http://www.channel4.com/news/japan-second-explosion-rocks-fukushima-nuclear-plant

    How about some real news, like the Japanese people arrest their entire government and declare war against the UN.


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  • VanneV anne

    Reactor 3 Nuclear Explosion at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant (video)
    “April 13, 2011 Possible Nuclear Explosion at 3 Scientists are investigating… “I believe that the explosion of the No 3 reactor may have also involved criticality but this must await the release of data on measurements of the Xenon isotope ratios,” he writes in a statement on Fukushima and Chernobyl.

    ———–Update 2——–
    “Reactor 3 – 5-6 Days Before Hot Rods Reach Critical Mass

    “How long does it for spent fuel rods to reach dangerous levels? “NRC calculated spent fuel rods in ideal conditions would be at risk of combustion in 140 hours”

    “As fuel rod temperatures increase, the gas pressure inside the fuel rod increases and eventually can cause the cladding to balloon out? and rupture.” Institute for Environmental Research

    “Experts are predicting Japan has until Saturday to get #3 under control. In experiments the time line of fire and explosion was five to six days after the rods were taken out of the coolant.

    “Japan has focused all their resources on Reactor 3, because the mixture of plutonium-239 and uranium-235 is the makings for a nuclear weapon.

    ——– Update 1———–

    “Update: Reactor 3 has the components of a nuclear weapon

    “Quoted from XOF(mirrored):

    “The fuel rods at all six reactors at the stricken Fukushima Dai-ichi complex contain plutonium — better known as fuel for nuclear weapons. While plutonium is more toxic than uranium, other radioactive elements leaking out are likely to be of greater danger to the general public.

    “Plutonium is indeed nasty stuff, especially damaging to lungs and kidneys. It is also less stable than uranium and can more easily spark a dangerous nuclear chain reaction.

    “But plutonium, like uranium, is a heavy element that is not easily dispersed in the air. It is the other byproducts of nuclear power generation, such as radioactive forms of cesium and iodine, that are more prone to spread and cause…


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    • VanneV anne

      [cont.]
      “Here’s how the uranium in a typical reactor turns into a mixture that includes plutonium:

      “When the pellets of uranium dioxide inside the thin fuel rods are split to create energy in the reactor, they release neutrons that, in turn, create highly radioactive plutonium-239. This is the same type of plutonium used to make nuclear weapons.

      “This plutonium also splits, creating even more energy. By the end of a uranium fuel cycle, 40 percent of the energy produced comes from the splitting of plutonium.

      “The spent fuel rod that remains at the end of the process contains uranium, plutonium, and a cocktail of other poisonous and radioactive byproducts.

      “The Fukushima Dai-ichi site has a considerable number of fuel rods on hand, according to information provided Thursday by Toyko Electric Power Co., which owns the atomic complex: There are 3,400 tons of fuel in seven spent fuel pools within the six-reactor plant, including one joint pool storing very old fuel from units 3 and 4. There are 877 tons in five of the reactor cores. Officials have said that the fuel in Unit 4′s reactor vessel was transferred to its spent fuel pool when the unit was temporarily shut in November.

      “If plutonium did get out, it wouldn’t disappear quickly. Plutonium-239 has a half-life of 25,000 years, meaning it takes that long to lose half of its radioactive potency. Uranium-235 has a half-life of 700 million years. And cesium, which tends to go airborne much more easily, has a half-life of 30 years.

      “Japan has recently built a facility to remove the byproducts and reprocess the plutonium and uranium into a substance called MOX for reuse in its reactors.

      “This was done in part to reduce the amount of spent fuel that is kept onsite at nuclear plants.

      “Japan’s reprocessing plant, in Rokkasho, a village 300 miles (500 kilometers) north of Fukushima, is only starting up, and hasn’t yet begun full operation.


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    • VanneV anne

      [cont.]
      “Japan started to use MOX in some of its reactors to learn how it affects plant operations. In general, MOX fuel runs hotter than uranium oxide while inside the reactor.

      “The United States does not reprocess fuel and encourages other countries not to do so because of fears that plutonium recovered in the process could be used to make nuclear weapons.”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k3Ofs6R9cg


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  • oscar419

    FINALLY….someone listened to Arnie besides us.
    To me it was always pretty simple and I suck at world problems….. Big boom, reactor buiding, nuclear fuel, back to that big boom, building evaporates in a cloud of debris…It only makes sense.

    I guess this really doesn’t effect people here that much as we already knew. It is the sheeplz that are going to have to swallow this.


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    • oscar419

      oops…word problems NOT world problems…hehehe


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    • Agreed oscar. Admin, repost away for the folks yet to be brought into the ene fold. The world needs as many who are willing to come forth and restate the matter as are willing to do so. How is this not a continuous alert? It may seem like old news to all of us here, and by all means say so, but what’s with not wanting others who have yet to see know? Have we become so jaded here? Until fb says there are +1 million likes no one but us knows. Thanks, Admin, for constant carring of the nuke info torch so illumination may be had for all.


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      • oscar419

        :( One of the most frightening things is people who just do not care about it, living in the rural area I do I get a lot of “Well that’s Japans problem and not ours”. From what I can gather just one hot particle can potentially alter the rest of your life, maybe that is an extreme but IMHO it is better than the other extreme of “ignorance is bliss”

        Keep in mind where I live Hank Hill could be a scholar.


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  • StPaulScout StPaulScout

    It is nice that Mr. Setsuo Fujiwara told us what we aleady had determined. Even if it is way after the fact, it does prove what many here have said all along. Let the detractors say what they want, many here have been spot on since day one and any corroborating evidence, no matter how late to the game, is valuable.


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    • aigeezer aigeezer

      I agree with the spirit of this, but quibble with the detail.

      For example, “it does prove…” No, it supports, but does not prove anything (alas).

      Also, I don’t think Enenews posters, in mass, have been consistently right. There are so many opinions here over the last few months, that one could cherry pick to claim almost anything was known in advance by this group. Unfortunately, the pro-nuke forces could cherry-pick also to demonstrate that Enenews posters are consistently wrong (especially if they cherry-pick some of their own troll posts here).

      I think Admin and many posters deserve huge credit for sensing that this is news, it is big news, it is bad news, and it is developing news, and for staying on message with these themes despite all the moment-by-moment distractions.

      Kind of makes me want to buy some Enenews T-shirts (I’m a pensioner, so I don’t say that lightly). ;-)


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      • StPaulScout StPaulScout

        There are certain key posters, that have been correct right on down the line. Those of us that have been reading postings here since the inception of enenews know who these people are. As far as it goes, it DOES prove that what some were saying many months ago is in fact the truth.


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  • Bobby1

    This is a resurrected post originally posted on another board in May:

    It now appears very likely that there was a prompt criticality or nuclear explosion at Fukushima in the period March 13-15. Using the Takasaki CTBTO data at http://www.cpdnp.jp we can see elevated levels of I-135 between Mar 15-17. According to Dr. Hiroaki Koide of Kyoto University, this supports the nuclear explosion theory onioni2.blogspot.com The very high concentrations of Xe-133 detected support this theory http://www.igse.net And finally, using the CTBTO’s own criteria, the amounts of 1. Tc-99m (Mo-99 daughter product) 2. Te-132 & I-132 3. I-131 4. Ba-140 & La-140, found on Mar 16-17, in that order, indicate a nuclear explosion had occurred. http://www.nrl.moh.govt.nz

    http://www.cpdnp.jp/pdf/110513Takasaki_report_May10.pdf

    http://onioni2.blogspot.com/2011/05/cesium134136-xenon-133-tellurium-129132.html

    http://www.igse.net/typo3conf/ext/naw_securedl/secure.php?u=0&file=fileadmin/Hamburg_workshop/AndreasBecker.pdf&t=1305745865&hash=e4d7da6d777eace56569022d26b0f624

    http://www.nrl.moh.govt.nz/faq/nrlreport2005-1.pdf

    A. Tc-99m 130,378
    B. Te-132 25,177
    C. I-132 35,700
    D. I-131 55,607
    E. Ba-140 542
    F. La-140 1,521
    A > B+C > D > E+F = nuke


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    • VanneV anne

      Thanks, Bobby 1:

      The Facts Concealed by Japanese Government: Iodine 135, Xenon 133, Tellurium 132, Promethium 15 and More Detected; Land Surface Cesium 137 Reaches Over 80 Ci/km2 in Iitate Village (37km from Fukuoka Daiichi), 1.4Ci/km2 in Chiba (220km); WSPEEDI Still Undisclose

      “…It is important to know that Iodine 131 becomes Xenon 131m, Iodine 135 becomes Xenon 135, and Xenon 135 becomes Cesium 135 (which half-life is 2,300,000 years) after omitting all the radiation. Then, can it be said that there must be huge amount of Cesium 135 have been accumulated on the land of Japan? (Does anyone know of data on Cesium 135 in Japan?)…”
      http://onioni2.blogspot.com/2011/05/cesium134136-xenon-133-tellurium-129132.html


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  • crystalwind crystalwind

    Everything being relative…wouldn’t the fuel rods being blown out months ago mean that there is less molten mass working its way down….gee….wouldn’t that be GOOD news?? :[


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    • StPaulScout StPaulScout

      They are talking about the spent fuel pools fuel rods being blown out of the pool. The corium is made up of what was in the core of the reactor after it melted. Two different things.


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    10 lbs of Plutonium evenly distributed would kill off our species ten times over, Reactor 3 contained 100 tons of Plutonium. Hmmm, I think we already in big trouble whether the SPF at Reactor 4 takes a tumble or not. I hope I’ve been misinformed and would love to be wrong.


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    • James2

      Moonshell please be careful with your numbers. I don’t know exactly how much, but there is not nearly that much Plutonium in one of these reactors.

      The plutonium in MOX is mixed in at between 6 and 15% of the total fuel and I believe I recall that in Fuku it was 9%. #3 was loaded with 1/3 of a MOX load – i’m not sure if the other 2/3 was in the spent fuel pool or not, but that would put the MOX plutonium in there at something between 1 1/2 and 6 tons. Then you have to add the small amount of plutonium in the spent fuel that is produced in the reactor, and you get the total.

      Which is still quite a lot of plutonium but not 100 tons of it. The real question is whether the plutonium flew during the explosion. Plutonium is one of the heaviest metals known, so it generally wouldn’t travel far in the atmosphere, however the MOX process grinds it into very fine nanometer powder during manufacturing, and I haven’t found anyone who can or will definitively say that it can or cannot come out in that form. If it can, we are all in trouble now.

      We’ve seen reports of plutonium detected in Washington and California, but I can’t tell if they are credible or not.


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      • moonshellblue moonshellblue

        These numbers are from the video “Dial M for Meltdown” thus I did not research the numbers which I should do and will right now. Thanks and I hope they are not correct as this does seem excessive.


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  • jec jec

    Wonder what in the world the light show at Reactor 3 and 4 signifies. And the green glow at foot of stack of reactor 3..and what the BIG Project was which did not work..and will be tried again. Was that dumping XXXXX in the ocean/lagoon a part of the “project.” 100 lbs of Plutonium is the stuff of nightmares..if you wake up..


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    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Yes 100 lbs was a quote from “Dial M for Meltdown” I just did a quick Google search and according to Natural News: “A simple calculation reveals that one mg of MOX is basically two million times more powerful than one mg of uranium. This is clearly not a good thing when the plutonium-containing fuel rods in Fukushima may be damaged from the recent explosions and leaking into the environment.” Thus I think 100 lbs is way off as a minimal amount of Plutonium can wreak havoc.


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  • James2

    The article is FUD.

    I’m not sure why, but they still want you to believe the spent fuel blew out of the fuel pool in what this guy now describes as a nuclear explosion on March 14th, and destroyed the rest of the reactor building, but did not blow the walls out of the fuel pool or even blow the water out of the pool.

    Plenty of pictures after the explosion show the #3 SPF still intact and holding water – which means anybody that says the explosion occured in the pool is blowing smoke themselves.

    The explosion occurred in the reactor containment – and possibly inside the pressure vessel itself. The plutonium found outside came from the core – not spent fuel.

    Now, I believe that the #3 SPF may have collapsed recently and that’s what is spewing radiation for the past couple weeks and causing all the strange fires and light shows, but I have no more evidence of that than the pictures from a distance that shows more destruction to the building recently.

    I’m not sure why they keep putting out more and more information that the pool blew up in March, when it clearly is not true. Even Arnie Gundersen keeps preaching that, when he knows full well it is not true. For sure there is a reason.


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    • StPaulScout StPaulScout

      Check Arne’s site and view his videos. He has one that clearly shows the SFP 3 being almost completely empty of fuel rods/bundles.


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      • James2

        I’ve seen most of Arnie’s videos, but i don’t recall the one that clearly shows SFP3 being almost empty.

        Please point it out to me.

        There is no possible way the explosion we saw out of #3 came from the spent fuel pool.

        It is a physical impossibility, and I will say again, anybody that is telling you that is blowing smoke.

        I’ve said it before, Arnie is doing great work, but he is not being straightforward on this one issue. Perhaps he took a position early incorrectly and simply doesn’t want to admit an error – perhaps it’s something more than that. I don’t know.


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        • Steven Steven

          What the Hell difference does it make? Is there a preference for one or other of the possibilities, from a point of view of contamination? Or is it yet another divisive issue specifically tailored to split the opposition and create yet more internal friction?

          Big box of kak went bang. Kak everywhere.

          Peace and good luck dodging the kak.


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          • Jebus

            Steven,
            It makes a HUGE difference! The nuclear industry wants everyone to believe that the primary containment is unbreachable.
            I am with James2 on this. Just looking at the video of the #3 explosion, it does not take a rocket scientist to determine that the largest part of the explosion went straight up in a column as if it was shot from a cannon. The only thing that could have channeled the column like that is the primary containment vessel.
            I have said it before, the #3 reactor containment was breached by the worlds largest water hammer ever recorded on video. I believe the flash above the spent fuel pool was an effect of the hydrogen buildup igniting from the initial breach of the primary containment, right before it went through the roof.


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        • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake

          Perhaps it is because he said it was a detonation not a deflagration at least twice now and because of serious mark I issues that need to be addressed isn’t necessarily the cause of the other issues perhaps invovled. I’m wondering if your statement, “there is no possible way the explosion we saw out of #3 came from…etc” comes not from a lack of being straighforward by Mr. Gundersen, but was because perhaps it is essentially the same question he’s referring to when he says “no one is looking at that”.


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          • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake

            What are the possible causes of a detonation then?


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            • VanneV anne

              I think a detonation means that a nuclear criticality caused the explosion, i.e., a nuclear explosion.

              Effects of nuclear explosions
              “The energy released from a nuclear weapon detonated in the troposphere can be divided into four basic categories:[1]
              • Blast—40-50% of total energy
              • Thermal radiation—30-50% of total energy
              • Ionizing radiation—5% of total energy (more in a neutron bomb)
              • Residual radiation—5-10% of total energy
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions

              Images for nuclear detonation
              http://www.google.com/search?q=nuclear+detonation&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

              Nuclear Detonation Timeline “1945-1998″
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9lquok4Pdk


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            • VanneV anne

              I think a deflagration meant a hydrogen explosion, i.e. an explosion from an interaction of gases.


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            • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake

              I think you’re right. So, even if what he says could be plausible towards the end of that April video (node 155 link), or not really, doesn’t have to be, it’s just the mechanism, but still, the next questions are what, then who helped the hydrogen.


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              • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake

                how and why and when, if any on all, would be nice too.


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              • VanneV anne

                The hydrogen explosions were in $1 and #2. MOX has more plutonium which is much more fissile than the uranium Lack of water covering the fuel either in the SFP or the reactor caused the temperature to increase enough for the plutonium to reach criticality and a detonation. Look at the article on Plutonium in wikipedia. Plutonium reaches criticality at a lower temperature than uranium. This is why MOX should never be used in a nuclear power plant.


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                • VanneV anne

                  Plutonium

                  “Criticality potential

                  “Toxicity issues aside, care must be taken to avoid the accumulation of amounts of plutonium which approach critical mass, particularly because plutonium’s critical mass is only a third of that of uranium-235.[8] A critical mass of plutonium emits lethal amounts of neutrons and gamma rays.[99] Plutonium in solution is more likely to form a critical mass than the solid form due to moderation by the hydrogen in water.[14]

                  “Criticality accidents have occurred in the past, some of them with lethal consequences. Careless handling of tungsten carbide bricks around a 6.2 kg plutonium sphere resulted in a fatal dose of radiation at Los Alamos on August 21, 1945, when scientist Harry K. Daghlian, Jr. received a dose estimated to be 5.1 Sievert (510 rems) and died 25 days later.[100][101] Nine months later, another Los Alamos scientist, Louis Slotin, died from a similar accident involving a beryllium reflector and the same plutonium core (the so-called “demon core”) that had previously claimed the life of Daghlian.[102] These incidents were fictionalized in the 1989 film Fat Man and Little Boy.

                  “In December 1958, during a process of purifying plutonium at Los Alamos, a critical mass was formed in a mixing vessel, which resulted in the death of a chemical operator named Cecil Kelley.[103] Other nuclear accidents have occurred in the Soviet Union, Japan, the United States and many other countries.[103]

                  “ Flammability

                  “Metallic plutonium is a fire hazard, especially if the material is finely divided. In a moist environment, plutonium forms hydrides on its surface, which are pyrophoric and may ignite in air at room temperature. Plutonium expands up to 70% in volume as it oxidizes and thus may break its container.[104] The radioactivity of the burning material is an additional hazard. Magnesium oxide sand is probably the most effective material for extinguishing a plutonium fire.


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                • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake

                  I understand, but he said the fuel pool was empty.

                  http://fairewinds.com/node/155 “4:20 fuel pool, which is a large 50x50x50 ..was empty and it was filled with gases…” as he explains the dynamics of it exploding..

                  I’m wondering what helped it. or caused it.


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                  • VanneV anne

                    It wasn’t empty before the explosion. I haven’t watched the video in a while. As I remember, if the SFP was empty after the explosion, he is explaining why the SFP exploded rather than the fuel in the reactor. Also he is basing his explanation from looking at the video and the side where the SFP is.

                    I only know what I read. I have no first-hand experience with nuclear fission.


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                    • LetThemEatYellowCake LetThemEatYellowCake

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov263oQDPbU&feature=player_embedded
                      11:05 “need to understand how that happened (the detonation)… no one’s looking at that”… That’s why I was wondering. I don’t know either other than the definition, like you mentioned, that insinuates help. I could be wrong, but he saying regarding the containment/reactor being intact, and the explosion originating from the sfp, then saying it was empty, then talking about the possibilities of how an explosion could have occured in it lead me to understand what he’s saying is that yeah, plutonium etc has been found and it’s from reactor 3, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it came from a full fuel pool in my mind, nor did he actually say that. Or did he? Is there somewhere that says the fuel pool was there? When he talked about fuel pools, I thought he meant in reference to when they are there..didn’t take that as stating it was in that instance. hmm That would be good to find I’ll work on that tomorrow too unless someone quickly knows. Also, he further saying that checking the ratios of types of xenon found in the atmosphere would help find the answer to that question makes me all wonder this too. I don’t either though, I have zero myself!:) And wondering why like he says, none of the agencies are looking at how a detonation could happen when it never has..maybe why he adds containments aren’t built to withstand those. Because they don’t happen without help? I dunno. :/ Or at least any agencies reporting on their musings of causes of such if they have. Mystery indeed. Anywho, night and thanks!:)


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                    • VanneV anne

                      I will be glad to respond tomorrow to:
                      December 14, 2011 at 1:18 am

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov263oQDPbU&
                      but I have to get up at 4:30 a.m. to teach tomorrow. I have to walk a mile and take the bus. I’m 71 and need to get some sleep. Also I can’t keep typing and watching the computer because my cancer surgery in 1989 took muscles off my chest wall and lots of lymph nodes and in addition I have bilateral carpal tunner syndrom and cubital syndrome and don’t have proper circulation. I dan’t see out of the glasses very well and get a crick in my neck and frozen shoulder. When this happens I can’t even move for a whole week.

                      So I have to get some sleep.

                      I would imagine myself that if there was a nuclear detonation of spent fuel it would have breached the reactor containment in the explosion which was leaking water even before the explosion. This reactor should have been decommissioned. In addition, it shouldn’t have had MOX fuel because it wasn’t built for MOX fuel. And I vaguely remember that some added safety features added to US reactors were never added to the reactors at Fukushima.

                      Spontaneous recriticality is happening to all the reactors #1-#4 off and on since March and will continue for 1000s of years.

                      I don’t myself know if the explosion happened in the SFP or the reactor. But if the experts are worried about the corium reaching the groundwater and another terrible explosion, then I have to assume that it was the SFP that exploded, and the corium that is traveling downward is from the reactor and that the fuel from the reactor was not the fuel that exploded.


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                    • VanneV anne

                      LetThemEatYellowCake, Was it you that said “shukran” in another post? Are you an Arab?


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                  • James2

                    Arnie says he thinks the SPF was empty.

                    However there are photographs that show it was not.

                    He also says that the 50 foot by 50 foot by 50 foot pool could have caused the vertical shot of gases we saw in the #3 explosion – which is not correct.

                    Think of a shotgun blast vs a rifle blast. The rifle sends the shot directly out of the barrel A shotgun blast, because of the larger diameter allows a larger “pattern” of shot.

                    a 50 foot cube pool would allow a very wide “shot pattern” – which we did not see. you need something much narrower in diameter at the opening and much deeper to make the shot we saw. There are only two possible things in the Reactor building that could go off like #3 did – either the reactor core, or the elevator shaft. The elevator shaft walls aren’t strong enough to contain the blast, so it had to be the core.

                    Even if you don’t believe what I say above – it’s still not possible to have the giant vertical explosion in the spent fuel pool – have the pool walls remain intact and destroy other items in the building on the other side and below the pool walls. It’s physically not possible – that would be like having a shockwave travel through a wall and not destroy it – that’s not how shockwaves work.


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        • VanneV anne

          July 1, 2011
          [view transcript]
          New Analysis of Unit 3 Fuel Pool Video Reveals Top of Fuel Bundle
          “A video first released by TEPCO in April has been re-analyzed by Ian Goddard and appears to reveal a handle found atop a single nuclear fuel bundle. This raises more questions about the condition of any fuel still remaining in the Unit 3 fuel pool.

          “Hi I’m Arnie Gundersen from Fairewinds.
          If you have been watching the site lately, it has been about 3 weeks since we have updated a video. During that time, Maggie and I have been on the road making a couple of presentations in Massachusetts, a couple of TV shows and some radio and print. That will be on the site over the next couple of weeks to inform you of what we have been up to. But something happened last night that I really wanted to share with you right now.

          “I got an email last night from Ian Goddard. And Ian is a long time watcher of this site and has done some really great analysis in the past as well. He took a look at an old TEPCO video. And Tokyo Electric had gone into the Unit 3 fuel pool just once. You remember that Unit 3 is the reactor that is blown to smithereens. The video showed a lot of damage. But Ian Goddard was able to find one spot where there is clearly something that appears to be discernible. It looks like the handle of a BWR fuel bundle.
          Ian compares that bundle to other bundles which were looked at over in Unit 4 and it is pretty clear to me and a couple of other nuclear engineers I have shown it to, that this might be a single nuclear fuel bundle in the Unit 3 fuel pool.


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          • VanneV anne

            [cont.]
            “It raises more questions than it answers. First of all, there should be a lot of bundles there. Yet, obviously, there is only one in this picture. Where are the other bundles? The other part of the question is, this should be under about 25 feet of water. It is not, it is very near to the surface. So what has happened to that particular bundle, or to the water level in the pool that caused it to come in such close contact with atmosphere?
            Like I said, it raises more questions than it answers, but I really do want to thank Ian Goddard for discovering this. If you have any comments or questions or thoughts on what you think it might be, please send in through the comments section on the website.

            Thanks, we will get back to you soon.
            http://fairewinds.com/node/195

            April 26, 2011
            [view transcript]
            Gundersen Postulates Unit 3 Explosion May Have Been Prompt Criticality in Fuel Pool

            “When building 3 of the Fukushima Daiichi plant exploded last month, those who saw the video footage were left to wonder why it was more severe than the other explosions. Adding to the mystery were reports that the containment and reactor in building 3 were still intact. Gundersen discusses several known facts about Fukushima 3 and theorizes on a possible scenario leading to the explosion.”
            http://fairewinds.com/node/155

            http://fairewinds.com/updates


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  • James2

    When you watch the videos above, remember the vent towers are about 700 feet tall. They are huge. ‘

    It’s very easy to forget how high that shot was out of #3. Huge chunks of roof and debris flew 2000-3000 feet high, and the mushroom cloud was nearly a mile high.


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  • Did you ever notice that Fukushima monitoring stations are all upwind, but there are NONE downwind?

    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/index-e.html

    I just checked, and many months after the disaster, there are still NO RADIATION METERS downwind of the plant.

    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/index-e.html

    Of course, since almost all of the time the wind blows out over the ocean, there is no radiation to report. Bingo, no problems.

    Everything is safe, and no dangerous radiation is measured, even after MULTIPLE massive explosions and all kinds of things burning, blowing up, neutron rays, green glowing things, fires, etc.

    You would think they could install at least ONE radiation meter downwind, but then again, they would not like what they measure… and the public would not like to see what is coming out of Fukushima.

    Is this even considered scientific? I cannot believe the world is even listening to these Bu(#*@)) radiation readings being put out.

    It does not suprise me one bit that no one can figure out how much radiation is being release from FUKU. It is like trying to measure water coming out of a fire hose, by standing a block away with a water meter..

    Duhhhhh, no water coming out here… there must not be any fire.

    Anyone saying anything different is just fear mongering.


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