Alert: Typhoons cause failure of ‘ice wall’ around Fukushima reactors — Highly radioactive water flowing into ocean — Structure “critically affected” — Fears over multiple sections of barrier that have thawed — Expert: “The plan to block groundwater is failing” (VIDEO)

Published: September 6th, 2016 at 12:51 pm ET


Asahi Shimbun, Sep 2, 2016 (emphasis added): Typhoons cause ‘ice wall’ to melt at Fukushima nuclear plant — Rainfall from recent typhoons caused partial melting of the “ice wall” at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant, allowing highly radioactive water to leak from around the damaged reactor buildings… [TEPCO] said melting occurred at two sections of the ice wall… TEPCO officials believe that during the latest typhoon, contaminated water from around the reactor buildings flowed through openings of the ice wall created by the deluge and reached downstream toward the sea… “If there had been an additional 15 cm of rain, (the contaminated water) could have poured out over the ground surface” and spilled into the sea, a TEPCO official said… The Meteorological Agency’s initial forecast said Typhoon No. 10 would bring a maximum 20 cm of rain a day at some locations in the Tohoku region… TEPCO admitted the underground wall of frozen dirt is not working. The company said the temperatures at the two sections of the frozen wall have climbed above zero since Typhoon No. 7 approached Fukushima Prefecture on Aug. 17. The company believes that the partial melting was caused by the influx of water brought by the typhoons and heavy rain in between.

NHK, Sep 1, 2016: Temperatures rose in parts of reactor ice wall — The operator of the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says due to recent heavy rain temperatures rose above zero degrees Celsius in some parts of an underground ice wall…

NHK, Sep 2, 2016: [TEPCO] says a series of storms have been dumping heavy rain in and around the plant since mid-August, pushing up temperatures in some sections of the ice wall. The utility says wall temperatures to the south of the No.4 reactor rose from minus 5 degrees to plus 1.8 degrees at the highest through Thursday. It adds wall temperatures to the east of the No.3 reactor also went up from minus 1.5 degrees to plus 1.4 degrees. Temperatures in these sections had been higher than others parts of the wall even before the storms. It’s feared that some ice in the sections may have melted as the rain increased groundwater flows.

Xinhua, Sep 2, 2016: “Ice wall” around Fukushima nuclear plant melts in 2 places following powerful typhoons — The frozen soil wall built around the crippled Fukushima No.1 nuclear plant have melted in two places following recent powerful typhoons… raising concerns over effect of the approach adopted by [TEPCO] to reduce the massive volume of radioactive water… [It] melted in two places following Powerful [Typhoon] Lionrock, the tenth of the season, battered the region… Groundwater flowing under the nuclear plant is leaking through the melted parts of the wall to outside and TEPCO is trying to refreeze the parts by injecting special chemicals to the wall, said the reports… The project was considered failed by some outside experts at an earlier meeting called by the Nuclear Regulation Authority…

Latin America Herald Tribune, Sep 2016: [TEPCO] Detects Increase in Temperature in Ice Wall in Fukushima[T]here are fears some sections of the wall could have thawed with the increase in underground water flow… This setback increases pressure on the company, that had barely made progress in bringing down the water still within the reactor basements…

Enformable, Sep 2, 2016: [TEPCO] has announced that the “ice wall”… has been critically affected by rainfall from recent typhoons that have melted parts of the ice structure, allowing new pathways for highly contaminated water to leak from the basements of the reactor buildings… [TEPCO] has had to admit that the $335 million wall of frozen soil and water is not working as designed. TEPCO announced that contaminated water was able to escape from the reactor buildings through the gaps in the ice wall that had melted from the rainfall and likely reached the Pacific Ocean… “The plan to block groundwater with a frozen wall of earth is failing. They need to come up with another solution, even if they keep going forward with the plant,” said Yoshinori Kitsutaka, a professor of engineering at Tokyo Metropolitan University.

Asahi Shimbun, Aug 19, 2016: Panel: TEPCO’s ‘ice wall’ failing at Fukushima nuclear plant – [TEPCO’s] “frozen wall of earth” has failed to prevent groundwater from entering the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant, and the utility needs a new plan to address the problem, experts said. An expert panel with the Nuclear Regulation Authority received a report from TEPCO on the current state of the project on Aug. 18. The experts said the ice wall project, almost in its fifth month, has shown little or no success. “The plan to block groundwater with a frozen wall of earth is failing,” said panel member Yoshinori Kitsutaka, a professor of engineering at Tokyo Metropolitan University… The water becomes contaminated with radioactive materials within the reactor buildings. TEPCO’s plan was to create a frozen wall of earth around the reactor buildings to divert the groundwater away from the plant and into the ocean… But the amount of groundwater pumped from the ocean side of the frozen wall has shown little change from when there was no icy earth wall… [T]he readings above freezing were in areas with high levels of groundwater concentration…

Watch a video report on the melting ice wall here

Published: September 6th, 2016 at 12:51 pm ET


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5,717 comments to Alert: Typhoons cause failure of ‘ice wall’ around Fukushima reactors — Highly radioactive water flowing into ocean — Structure “critically affected” — Fears over multiple sections of barrier that have thawed — Expert: “The plan to block groundwater is failing” (VIDEO)

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    The ice wall was a failure since it's inception. They just waited for another natural disaster to place blame.

    The ground dropped 3 meters after the earthquake that destroyed FDNPP. The sea water is not mentioned as an underground invader of the basements of FD. Only "groundwater". Why? What happens when you mix corium and salt water?

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      A 400-kilometre (250 mi) stretch of coastline dropped vertically by 0.6 metres (2 ft 0 in), allowing the tsunami to travel farther and faster onto land.[33] One early estimate suggested that the Pacific plate may have moved westward by up to 20 metres (66 ft),[82] and another early estimate put the amount of slippage at as much as 40 m (130 ft).[83] On 6 April the Japanese coast guard said that the quake shifted the seabed near the epicenter 24 metres (79 ft) and elevated the seabed off the coast of Miyagi prefecture by 3 metres (9.8 ft).[84] A report by the Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology, published in Science on 2 December 2011, concluded that the seabed in the area between the epicenter and the Japan Trench moved 50 metres (160 ft) east-southeast and rose about 7 metres (23 ft) as a result of the quake. The report also stated that the quake had caused several major landslides on the seabed in the affected area.[85]

      Soil liquefaction in Kōtō, Tokyo
      The Earth's axis shifted by estimates of between 10 cm (4 in) and 25 cm (10 in).[32][33][34] This deviation led to a number of small planetary changes, including the length of a day, the tilt of the Earth, and the Chandler wobble.[34] The speed of the Earth's rotation increased, shortening the day by 1.8 microseconds due to the redistribution of Earth's mass.[86]

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      2nd image. The ocean is above basement level. If the groundwater is getting in, makes sense that the ocean water is getting in. Consider also, that the ground level has dropped, though measurements of how much are conflicting. What are the implications of this?

      • The Fukushima Nuclear catastrophe is ongoing.

        A 1992 German risk study of a NPP core melt down on the upper Rhine river concluded that.

        1. Strontium-90 levels would skyrocket, and reach a peak levels around 5,000 days later. Strontium-90 levels would then stay high for around another 40,000 days + !

        We are already seeing reports of skyrocketing levels of Strontium being detected in the ground water tests, at the Fukushima Nuclear catastrophe site.

        2. Cesium-137 would reach peak levels after 10,000 days.

        Interestingly, Tepco has has tried to implemented the counter measures suggested in the German risk study, including the ice wall idea, at the Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe site. They have not had much success so far!

        Germany Risk Study, (Note: that the charts in this document are log scale.)

        If this study is correct, these increases will continue long into the future!

        All the wars, and strife in the world at present is analogous to people fighting each other on a sinking boat. We urgently need the whole world to cooperate, and focus on mitigating the Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe.

    • Jebus Jebus

      Coordinated Research Project – T13015 Information Sheet

      Management of Severely Damaged Spent Fuel and Corium – New CRP

      In the context of this CRP the term "severely damaged spent fuel" will be used. Severely damaged spent fuel covers: Material from post irradiation examination; fuel debris, fuel damaged during fuel handling operations; fuel damaged as a result of loss of cooling; corium; melted core concrete interaction products (MCCI).

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Sounds like enough damage to spent fuel in unit 4 to talk about it. We have heard the robots there went kaput. We learned that the fuel was damaged but in perfect condition. The spent fuel area was safe to work in but the robots didnt survive. Our name is TEPCO but our claims are jack

        ' A fourth reactor, although shutdown, suffered severe damage to its structure from a hydrogen explosion and resulted in plant and roofing materials being deposited in the fuel storage pool. The fuel in this pool may also have been damaged due to loss of cooling water and the introduction of seawater as a replacement'

    • As I've researched and stated before (and I personally believe it's true from the science and evidence)…

      …the socalled "Ice Wall isn't a ice anything" although (wishful thinking) it may have some slush in some small places around the site.

      This is good tech and works to cool the reactors using no moving parts while relying on the heat from the reactors to activate it but it's not a ice anything, at most it may be a slushy in some VERY small areas.

      Used to try to keep the blobs cooling below the point where they could split the water into hydrogen and oxygen. If that happens that whole area is toast with no way for the "pro nuke" crowd to deny it!

      This is the way this thing works:

      So it is easy to understand they may have some broken parts, just don't confuse that with broken ice, there is no ice to break at that hotspot and won't be for years to come.

      Sounds good that people have found a way to freeze the hottest and most poisoness place on earth doesn't it?. Try that with a volcano, oh and how about 3 man made ones that you can't get near without suffering from radioactive heavy metal intoxication that can be passed on to others like a virus…

      The Ice wall didn't break, no ice there to break in the first place…

    • …the socalled "Ice Wall isn't a ice anything" although (wishful thinking) it may have some slush in some small places around the site.

      This is good tech and works to cool the reactors using no moving parts while relying on the heat from the reactors to activate it but it's not a ice anything, at most it may be a slushy in some VERY small areas.

      Used to try to keep the blobs cooling below the point where they could split the water into hydrogen and oxygen. If that happens that whole area is toast with no way for the "pro nuke" crowd to deny it!

      This is the way this thing works:

      So it is easy to understand they may have some broken parts, just don't confuse that with broken ice, there is no ice to break at that hotspot and won't be for years to come.

      Sounds good that people have found a way to freeze the hottest and most poisoness place on earth doesn't it?. Try that with a volcano, oh and how about 3 man made ones that you can't get near without suffering from radioactive heavy metal intoxication that can be passed on to others like a virus…

      The Ice wall didn't break, no ice there to break in the first place…

  • Jebus Jebus

    Magnetic Metallic Nanoparticles.

    All ICE prime movers create them.

    From lawnmowers, to coal plants, to jet engines, to the occasional seahore corium melt.

    Some call some nanoparticles buckyballs…

    It elementary. Obvious. Yet there is a discovery!

    Alzheimer's-linked nanoparticles, found in pollution, are showing up in people's brains

    Tiny particles from air pollution could be linked to Alzheimers

    I remember learning this in school…

    • Runningonlove Runningonlove

      Can you say, "Stratospheric Aerosols Geoengineering"?
      How about "Solar Remediation Management"?
      How many slow-kill depopulation nano-particles can dance on the heads of some demented billionaires?
      THEN…Factor in the hydrologic-cycle global spreading and combination/reaction of the various Fuku nuke particles…with the SAG nano-aluminum, barium, strontium, nanobots, etc, ad naseum…
      and you've got more than enough to launch perhaps the greatest-yet "Great Extinction" on our dear home planet.
      Happy now, Mr. Rothschild? How 'bout you, Hilary?
      I find the coughing fits ironically very appropriate.
      Happy as always, in spite of it all….Good to be back here
      with my old friends!

  • DannieJ DannieJ

    This was always a long shot. Truly a desperate ploy.

    Does anyone have a live feed of a "real" geiger counter in Tokyo? The ones I had are all dead. Thanks.

  • freebywill

    Anyone know how much electricity it takes to run the ice wall ?

    What a waste.

  • haizedustrium-1234 haizedustrium-1234

    ding ding ding : typhoon caused more fish to beach

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    That will never work…it works…it doesn't work…we don't know if it will work…it works…it doesn't work…we hope it works…it only works if it doesn't rain….sort of…it works…it failed.

    Tepco raised rates by 18% in 2012, more since, record bailouts and record profits…

    The ice-wall is a diversion to justify the profits and fill the statute of limitation void.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Tepco: Build an Impermeable Wall to fully enclose Reactor Ruins 1-4, of interlocking sheet steel pilings, made by extending the wall that is already in place along the harbor. Should have done this in the first place. Replace the harborside leg of the wall, if structurally unsound.

    Too much water flowing in underground river for Frozen Wall to work. Bad idea, anyway, when you have a Frozen Wall trying to contain the heated groundwater from 3 missing molten nuclear cores.

    By the way, where are those missing nuclear cores, eh, Tepco? 😉

    • PlowboyGrownUp

      PUN has the right idea, imo.

    • norbu norbu

      Yes let us blame the Typhoon for the failed Ice wall, even though it did not work from the start. The water is flowing into the Ocean because they are letting it. What plan? Oh the plan to screw the ocean and all the critters in it , oh that one….pathetic…liars…Where are the the Corium?? In the ground water Duh…

    • Hey man (PhilipUpNorth) haven't heard from you in a while…

      There's NO way to build ANYTHING impermeable.

      We know this, it's not a test or a dress rehearsal.

      Let's put our collective knowledge together and stop the unfettered production of pollution now!

      And if we get lucky we can stop the infiltration of the death of ANY child because of a lie…

      …just sayin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Marcie

      Cores….smores….must you dwell on the negative? This is such old news. How are they supposed to keep their lies straight with people constantly bringing up the past? Didn't you believe the pics of the scientific looking guys in white lab coats walking around a pristine structure proving that there was no damage? I'm sure the robot that was KILLED just trying to enter one of the reactor buildings was a total coincidence and unrelated to any contamination.

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    Back in 2014 "TEPCO Concedes Failure of Fukushima Ice Wall
    August 20th, 2014 by Sandy Dechert " No typhoon mentioned.

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    When water has particles in it, a solution, the freezing point is lowered per the concentration of the solute. A formula:
    If the particles are radioactive, causing heat, well there you go.

    • Sol Man

      Hovering within a few deg. of 0 C. doesn't give much room for getting the solution frozen. So, wonder what calculations they are using for the "soup" flowing through to determine just how cold it needs to be to freeze? Inquiring minds you know.

      What (a) waste.

  • Jebus Jebus

    I think this is the difference in the recent ice wall announcements.

    "Officially named the Land-Side Impermeable Wall"

    Japan’s $320 Million Gamble at Fukushima: An Underground Ice Wall

    Enigma's raise their own memes…

  • Nick

    "The success of the ice wall is believed to be key to resolving the plant’s water woes."

    Resolution happen by July 2020.

    Think Olympics.

    Yeah Right.

  • jec jec

    Gee..I guess the steam from the reactors yesterday..and before..and in the a real issue. TEPCO Webcam 1, showing Reactors 1 and 2 plus a distant view of Reactors 3/4 showed quite a bit of steam which really highlights the failure of the Ice Wall. TEPCO is counting money..and looking for more financial help from its victims..whoops 'customers'. By customers..its going to be all of us in the short term future as this poison pours into the Pacific.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Those sunsets look natural to me… 😐

    PHOTOS: Walk the Line

    Appropriately titled…

  • demise demise

    Don't kid yourselves. It was not working in the first place. The ice wall was just a propaganda tool. It was a flawed concept and poorly executed, but they had to save face by doing something, even idiotic.

    • Sorry for the late reply…

      ..did you happen to notice that the experts didn't "run right over there" to fix it?

      No one want's to get near it… Now here we are years later and no further along than we were? And maybe worse now as some would have us believe?

      I personally don't know (or have) all the facts, but neither does anyone else…

      "Best we all get back to learnin"…

      …Grandmaw sure would say so.

  • Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is quickly, and efficiently.

    You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the lifesaver.pdf, or create your own, hand it out, mailbox it, or email it. Put it everywhere, libraries, Churches, notice boards, web pages, forums, Facebook, and tweet! Think outside the box.

    From Chemfood – Please help Us Get the Rad Word Out, People… Fukushima Business Cards 4 U! And everyone else, too! These nifty cards are easy to print and pass out and leave randomly about, where ever you please. Distribute liberally. Post to all social media.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Do bequerels take into account any biological functions?

    Do sieverts take into account the excitation of the chemical toxcicity of the isotope?

    Does any of this take into account a marine environment?

    It's the twenty first century.


    • The massive amount of radioactive environment pollution from Fukushima has resulted in the Northern Pacific Ocean food supply crashing, and the present ice wall failure will make the situation worse.

      Like the human embryo, embryonic sea life including fish eggs, are hypersensitive to radioactive contamination, hence the large number of reports of seals, whales and birds etc., washing up on the west coast of North America, starving to death.

      This view is sported by Dr. Sternglass's research paper below. It clearly demonstrates how nuclear contamination from the nuclear bomb testing era caused a significant crash in Pacific Ocean fish stocks. If this was the case then, it would be logical to assume that the Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe is having a similar effect.


      “The purpose of the study was to determine whether continued atmospheric testing by France and China or potential releases from underground detonations that might unexpectedly escape into the nearby fishing grounds could have detectable effects on the reproduction of fish populations similar to the unanticipatedly severe effects of low level radiation on the human embryo and fetus (2, 3, 4) recently confirmed by independent studies by other investigators (5, 6).”

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Sternglass; "it is possible to estimate that the deposition of only some 250 curies of Strontium-90 and its associated fresh fission products from a nuclear test appear to have led to a l% reduction in the California fish catch."

        Fukushima release estimate range is 13 million to 25 million curies. ( 37,840,000 to 486,500,000 curies total land and air) So if 250 Curies of Strontium-90 and other fission products from a nuclear test reduced the California fish catch by 1%, you could multiply 250 curies by 100 to get a reduction of 100% fish catch (thats 1% x 100 = 100%). So, extrapolating, thats 25,000 curies = 100% reduction in fish catch. But we have 10,000 times more than that! So even if we over estimated the release by a factor of 10 (not likely) and the toxicity to fish was overestimated by a factor of 10… theres still enough radiation to reduce the fish catch to zero.
        No need to ring the alarm though because our scientists dont believe that 10,000 Hiroshima bombs could do ANYTHING to the ecosystem. Meanwhile, anti nukers have not been able to convince them otherwise

    • Runningonlove Runningonlove

      What do the great whales think of this? They are sentient beings, perhaps with wisdom beyond any of our earthly power brokers. Perhaps we can learn from their songs of lament and strength.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Did three reactors blow?
    Did the coriums go?
    Did a fourth one glow?
    Will we ever know?
    How much is enough?
    Did the Reagan get slammed?
    Will the sailors be damned?
    Is the trial a sham?
    As per Tepco's plan?
    How much is enough?
    Did the seastars die?
    Does sea snot lie?
    Did the sardines say goodbye?
    Do whales sigh?
    How much is enough?

    • The Japanese Government admitted in May 2011 that there were a lot more nuclear reactors seriously damaged, not just the 4 at the Fukushima Nuclear disaster site. We have no real information on what has been happening at those other nuclear disaster sites, because of the news blackout.


      “According to Japan’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA), the earthquake and subsequent tsunami affected fourteen nuclear reactors at four sites along the eastern coast the Fukushima Daiichi site (six reactors), Fukushima Daini site (four reactors), the Ongawa site (three reactors) and the Tokai site (one reactor). The most serious damage occurred at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station.”


      • theworldisalie theworldisalie

        We also know that they repeatedly used the word "damage" in place of the word "meltdowns" when talking about fukushima. They also told the media to do the same.

        So since they said there is "damage" at the other facilities, let's just assume they melted down as well shall we.

        Would explain the high radiation levels found right by Daini for example… oh and the booms reported by the locals and well… The dying pacific ocean and 220,000bq per liter of rain water of just I-129….
        Or the millions of Bq of I-131 found in west coast sea weed. Or the massive amounts of hot particles in north America.

        It's so much worse than anyone can ever imagine or will ever get an official answer on.


    I have a set of 8 posts, about 10 pictures each of my organic garden, and prairie. I succeeded in each of 3 years, but by far this year is a an above and beyond success.

    I give away super healthy food whenever I can, to avoid having to "process or preserve it".

  • Should We "Fight Carbon" Or Is That Just Part of the NWO Wealth Transfer Scam and Power Grab

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      certainly this graphic indicates we have the thinnest carbon 'blanket' that ever threatened to overheat the earth. It could be considered dangerously low rather than dangerously high levels.
      Humans contribute one fourth of one percent to greenhouse effect.

      • StPaulScout StPaulScout

        CodeShutDown – I will take the word of almost every single climate scientist on the planet over your mumblings. Anthropogenic global warming is happening. You can choose to believe it or not. You really do come across as a bit of an imbecile when you state such nonsense.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          StPaulScout, an imbecile I am, I wont deny it. I have seen the graphs correlating mans Co2 output and its rise along with temperature. At first convincing, then later questions creep in.

          Global warming could be disastrous. I have been hearing about it for decades. New revelations of climate drivers illustrate that the climate models were flawed. But Im not a climate scientist. I suppose perhaps you are.

          But there are a few items that seem relevant and not disputed; that mans contribution is 1/4 of 1%, that Co2 was much higher in geological history and we are at one of the lower ebs, that co2 is a fraction of the greenhouse effect of water vapor, that vegetation is the natural c02 consumer and we have cut down half the trees and the plankton is decreasing. So as far as DRIVERS of climate change, it seems narrow to attribute it to mans c02 output…itself a small amount compared to termites, or so I read. I dont pretend to be a specialist in anything, if that helps. By all means correct my ignorance

        • Yea but…

          …If you see you know.

          We that see don't need anyone to tell us and we don't need anyone to educate us eh????

          Kinda sad as these things are killing us, our children and our parents and grandparents on a massive scale and no one wants to talk about it, much less admit to the cause…

          The sky is blue

          Water is wet

          There is a GOD (or creator if it bothers you).

          Guess what happens next if we don't take responsibility for our own children and elderly here, while we are here?

          Easy way out? nahhhhhh…

      • DUDe DUDe

        "..It could be considered dangerously low rather than dangerously high levels.
        Humans contribute one fourth of one percent to greenhouse effect.."

        We been here before..its about interconnecyed balances and we are messing with it on every level but understand nothing outside our immediate visible spectrum so simply ignore obvious interconnectedness of everything and when profit is involved agressively deny it..

        • Hey boy (and I use the term loosely)

          You need to read more before you say that, in a hurry?

          So is everybody else that will be effected by these things.

          Best get with the program and if your'e gonna discredit someone (that has done the work) back it up with REAL facts instead of a dribble…

          • Don't mess with Code, that one has done her homework…

            • DUDe DUDe

              Talking to me mr paternalistic newb ? If Code would feel attacked on a personal level by me i'm sure he would put me straight , as it has inevitable happend in the rather long past before you came here , with or without you hyjacking in because i spoke mildly critical of your policing efforts once in the past , i assume .
              Capiche boy ?

              • Yepper DUDe and then some. I hate to fly (but i will) so is it too much to ask you to come here? and get some? any time?

                I'll have someone pick you up at the airport…

                We just don't have the time for your crap…

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    get some of what Hippie Dog? Be explicit; we just don't have the time for your crap

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Hippie, looks to me like you were talking to DUDe, get on a plane and get some…then showing kick ass moves from Seagal.

                      There is no tranny, I was making light of poster PJs who was joking about another regular being 9 ft tall.

                      One thing can be said of online social media; the written word is not the clear expressive thing we think it is. Nobody really knows anybody but they build all kind of assumptions. I would say it looks pretty aggressive of you to trounce people right out of the gate.

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    I believe thats the most explicit threat Ive seen on the forum. Wheres PJ? Shes our FBI connection

                    • huh code? First of all I was referring to…

                      September 7, 2016 at 4:20 pm · Reply
                      CodeShutDown – I will take the word of almost every single climate scientist on the planet over your mumblings. Anthropogenic global warming is happening. You can choose to believe it or not. You really do come across as a bit of an imbecile when you state such nonsense."

                      And I was not threatening anyone but I Will take anyone on in the face of this pollution that's killing us all!

                      The insult deserved a response (my newbie ass has the data and has been studying and monitoring this mess for many years).

                      Anyone that that thinks I'm new to this is just plain wrong. AND I'll get on a airplane (and do) and prove it to save a child!!!

                      So before anyone get's the wrong impression, realize that the current situation of pollution requires us all to stand up in the face of ALL the crap, no matter what form it comes in. Period!!!!

                      Surly but true…

                      And btw who is the tranny?

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

                      I've never talked to anyone at the FBi about this forum. I sent off a very explicit email once. And an FBI agent left an answering voice mail for me. But I never returned the call.

                      One reason I made so many foolish statements was so I couldn't complain to the FBI about all the abuse I receive on this forum.

                      I'd be glad to apologize (although I'm not sure the truth deserves an apology). Anyway, the last time I apologized the person said I wasn't sincere. So that was just another attack on me–that attack called invalidation. I'm not sure where I should have put this post, but I'm too tired to figure out where to put it. Somehow no matter how I denigrate myself, I just get more and more attacks.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      excellent choreography and skill from Jet Li for bullish poster Hippie Dog


                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    🙂 He never gets dirty..I like that.

              • DUDe DUDe

                Yes it is a clear threat. I will give a copy of this to my lawyer . You better hope the lightning does not strike me lol.
                I avoided talking to you , i even dont read your post's are the first that i suspect solely on gut feeling. I normally wait till there is a rational explanation for that..when the agenda becomes clear.

                Clearly with newb i mean on this forum bulb , anyone less then a year active here is a newb in my book lol. I dont give them any less respect but they better watch how they treat oldies around here..

                But i noticed from the beginning you have a suspicious dominance resonating in your post. Like it is important to you to get control over the memes here..
                I just could not figure out yet why..

                Thanks for proven me right "hippie".
                You are an aggressive climate denier..
                I was talking to Code , explain the insult from my post to you that gives you the right to come out swinging like that to me maggot.

                "..huh code? First of all I was referring to…


                "..The insult deserved a response.."

                "..Yepper DUDe and then some. I hate to fly (but i will) so is it too much to ask you to come here? and get some? any time?

                I'll have someone pick you up at the airport…

                We just don't have the time for your crap…"

                "..And I was not threatening anyone.."

                BS ! All of it ! What insult from me to you shitbulb ?

                Your from the fossil fuel department..and far from being a hippie or Earth first..

                I'm done…

                • DUDe DUDe

                  got cut off..

                  I'm done with you..this wont be forgotten.

                  • Well your'e wrong about this and just let me know…

                    Seems to me you would have understood that I was not replying to you but someone else and the attitude dictated the response then and now.

                    Go on about your life and contribute to something good, if not, it's 3 hots and a cot for ya if you get lucky…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      helloooo. Hippie youre going to have to say you put the wrong post in the wrong spot and mixed people up or something, because the record of truth is just above you in this thread. Funny though that you would continue with a demeaning attitude even now. H Dog

                    • I totally understand your post CodeShutdown and have said it more than once.

                      I'm here to help, that's my primary goal and though I like to write, make it interesting, challenge others and get to the absolute truth without ANY bull or distractions. The truth is nothing I said was meant as a threat for him or anyone else (and I think you know that already).

                      No discord, no threats, no tears, just enlightenment…

                      Funny that the original guy (or gal) I was actually answering has said nothing here about it.

                      NO time for grouses and it all should be for fun and knowledge…

                      ..and if I can get someone's attention, it's worth the time it takes to type these things.

                      Not going after ANYONE, don't come after me…

                      …A TOTAL waste of time.

                      Oh and check this Jackie Chan doc out, real people that do amazing things for sure…


                      …and none of them hurt each other on purpose.


                      What do we need to do to get past this?

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              ouf…uh…theres a nine foot tranny wielding a light saber in the room and I think shes had a rough couple of days. Thats just one foot short of ten

          • DUDe doesn't deserve disrespect

            Be hard on the argument, easy on the people

    • Jebus Jebus

      Results will always be the sum of the parts.

      We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than Global Warming

      Steffen said the research showed the economic system was "fundamentally flawed" as it ignored critically important life support systems.

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    Tepco Schlepco sat on a cold wall
    Tepco Schlepco released some hot balls
    Tepco Schlepco fooled most of all
    Tepco Schlepco what to make of it all
    Tepco Schlepco the worlds last missed call

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingJesus(Eashoa’ M’sheekha)

    Tropical Storm "Malou" hits Okinawa, heading toward Tokyo, Japan
    “…JMA expects Malou to continue strengthening and have maximum sustained winds of 101.8 km/h (63.3 mph) by 06:00 UTC on September 8. At the time, the center of Malou is expected to be located about 84 km (52.7 miles) south of downtown Tokyo, moving NE at 39 km/h (24 mph)….”

  • NoFixedID

    For those who may have overlooked it: The last of the news articles listed above, which announces that the ice wall had 'shown little or no success', was released 11 days before Typhoon Lionrock hit the Fukushima coast.

    The experts quoted in the article make no attempt to blame the failure of the ice wall on abnormal rainfall.

    PUN's suggested alternative of a steel wall may work if the underlying bedrock is largely impervious (and free of cracks). What are the chances that this is the case?

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      All they need to do is build a huge dam around the whole complex, fill with water and scoop out everything with big football sized digging machines and carry away in a sluice for processing. Cant cost as much as the Panama canal and seems worth it compared to losing whats left of Japan and the pacific ocean

      • StPaulScout StPaulScout

        Won't work. Radioactive Iodine still being produced. Iodine is a fission byproduct. No tool on earth can touch that shit, let alone get close to it. Haven't you been paying attention?

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          StPaulScout…I guess the earth can get close to it. I think you misread my post. I didnt say fission was not happening. The key to designing the tool is to make it feed out a sacrificial manipulator, if no material is capable of handling the heat. I envision water jets for cutting, water pressure for moving. Why the downer on code StPaul? Im just another ENEnews fool doin my thing. Are you a specialist in this stuff? IF so, I thirst for your contribution!

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      They should use the equipment to make ice cream instead. Then, they can have a fun=raiser and try to hire someone with a four-pound brain

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      thank you for your interest? On behalf of ENEnews, could you thank Jay for thanking you? thanks

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      That was a political response. I received the same exact reply from politicians. No answers, and remember that it's not worth your time to bug the man. So, don't do it again.

      At least that is what I get out of a message like that. If you are lucky, they say thanks for your interest and repeat their position. Your position doesn't matter to them, but hey please give them your vote. (In Dana Durnford's case… thanks for your interest, Dana keep your hands where we can see them)

      • Ya Cullens response is pretty much, fuck you, we don't need to hear no shite from no little people. We got the grant money and our marching orders on what to find. Thanks for your interest, and don't even effen contact my bitch in training again.

        • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

          So, you wrote to said trainee and it was forwarded to Culler, who then replied to you with "thanks but no thanks" essentially? What did you ask, if I might ask?

          • I asked her to consider the Chitin /Radiation biomagnification connection.

            Note that in Orwellian manner, Cullen is listed as her "Supervisor",

            not educator, not mentor

            thus the earth was lost

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Oh damn! The ice wall failed? Shhh. Don't spread the word till I sell my shares in the Ice Dutch Oven business

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Maybe they could build their tsunami wall out of ice. Ice is great stuff.

    Hey, let's build an ice wall on the moon— not because it's easy, but because it's hard.

    Donald Trump should have Mexico build an ice wall on their Northern border…

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    When the floating nuclear reactors melt down, think they will build an ice wall…

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    They should make nuclear reactor control rods out of ice, because… I don't know. Ask a nuclear engineer

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Abe should buy a few of those radiation fences and build a wall around the plant.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    The world we live in

    Where are the Fukushima melted cores? Remote viewing?

  • Sol Man

    For those searching for a black swan to affect some dramatic change you may consider the possibility of ALL fraud-based schemes collapsing simultaneously. IOW, an entire flock of black swans coming home to roost at once.

    Now that would be some fireworks.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Tepco announced this week that Unit 2 inspection of the pedestal area will be put off until 2017.
    Simply Info. 🙂

    (No announcement of dates for inspection of pedestal area of Units 1 & 3.)

    Tepco: You have 3 100-tonne coria of molten nuclear fuel, clearly still molten, if the presence of short-lived Iodine-131 is to be believed, which is, you say, in an unknown state and location.
    And you are taking your sweet time locating it, even after 5 1/2 years.
    Where are the radiation-proof space suits?
    Where are the robots?

    Where is the damn corium?
    Git 'er done! 😉

  • TimV

    It always seemed clear that the planet "reset button" was pushed on
    3/11/11. Might take a couple of hundred years , none the less
    we should not stop trying.
    It's all about the epitaph now.
    Unless some of our scientists come up with a
    anti radiation ray gun.
    Love your life , love your family.


  • Nick

    "Former Japanese prime minister Junichiro Koizumi has blasted current premier Shinzo Abe’s stance that the situation at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant is under control.
    “It’s a lie,” an impassioned Koizumi, 74, told reporters in Tokyo on Wednesday. “They keep saying it’s going to be under control, but still it’s not effective. I really want to know how you can tell a lie like that.”

    Cold Shutdown.

    2020 Olympics.

    All okay.

    Now, go shopping!

  • Nick

    "there is no groundwater contamination being released to the Pacific Ocean at F. Daiichi. There are several reasons why I make this claim with the highest possible confidence."

    You betcha!

    Everything phine. (:-) )

    No worry.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    "According to Gregory Jaczko, former head of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), it is not likely the fuel will ever be recovered: “Nobody really knows where the fuel is at this point, and this fuel is still very radioactive and will be for a long time,” Ibid."

  • Sol Man

    Is neutron radiation taking out the trees?

  • TEPCO is lying about radiation continuously flowing into the Pacific, this article at Rod Adams site says there is actually NONE, ZERO.

    Shame them to hell

    Tepco and the NRA have every reason in the world to admit they are wrong about F. Daiichi’s groundwater constantly contaminating the Pacific. Ruthlessly clinging to this fictional worst-case assumption poses Pascalean quandary. Tepco and the NRAS have everything to lose and nothing to gain by continuing the false conjecture, but everything to gain and nothing to lose by admitting their obvious mistake.

    I suspect that Tepco and the NRA do not have the courage to do the right thing. I hope they will prove me wrong, but I’m not holding my breath.

    • theworldisalie theworldisalie

      I am dumbfounded at the Audacity of these "people"…

      • I know, it makes me embarrassed for the 3 pound insane monkey brain.

        • Silverlok Silverlok

          "…I know, it makes me embarrassed for the 3 pound insane monkey brain…"

          Always so hard on us poor monkeys…perhaps some of those (*cough*politicians, *cough* academics; not as smart as they think they are ) monkey brains are conditioned ( by unearned and unwarranted rewards) to think they are soo very, very smart and better than everyone by extension ( yes that is a penis joke ) and become the quintessential 'useful idiots' ( as opposed to the general population…yes that is a prison reference , for all involved )that are real life models for the metaphysical concentration of that concept as the: chess board rook; a rarely well played pieced and one that nearly everyone sacrifices when need be.

    • AND NEVER stopped from the beginning!!!

      3 pounds? kinda optimistic don't ya think?

  • You know lying arse Jay Cullen and Kenny Boy Buessler are paid to lie about the contamination of the Pacific. Cullen is at U Vic.

    What if you had every email to every graduate student at U Vic Oceanography? Do you think you could say something that would matter, that would stop the lies?

    Here they are, all the email addresses.

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog


    Fukushima Daiichi

  • Nick

    Unless you crawled out of a cave….

    …..the latest, as Nick seize it. 🙂


    GMI 2 Spread faster than Zika


    • Zeka smeka it's a distraction from the real problem.

      It's a distraction from what could actually kill you and your kids.

      Don't think for a moment that the poo poo virus from a mosquito south of the border is a problem. POLLUTION (and mosquitoes) OF ALL KINDS are a KILLER problem in the northern hemisphere and have been for years. THIS IS PROVEN!!!

      If you pay attention to the distraction (Zeka?), you are NOT paying attention to what is going on right here, right now, daily!!!

      It's a distraction (zeka) and NOT a threat here AT ALL but it makes a great excuse and takes up the time, they could be shouting about the radiation and pollution threat we all face! GMA could teach you how to put a hat on a cat in a few seconds, but won't tell you anything concerning the real threats to your family. And guess what? They are owned by the very companies that created these the threats in the first place. Hummm wonder why they don't report these things to you? Could it be they are the ones responsible? GE? Westinghouse? Etc???

      It's like Capt. Crunch for breakfast. They could be reporting the real threats (but instead keep people from studying the real things that matter with a zeka distraction) that are proven to be a problem in our environment right here, right now, in our country…

      Get ya some BooBery with the zeka preventive (red40) instead.

  • Nick








  • Nick

    Take a moment to ponder cosmic radiation.

    Is CO2 solely to blame for atmospheric heating?

    I think not.

    When the sun goes quiet, cosmic ray penetration increases as magnetic fluxes shift.

    None of us know half of the equation.

    • Nick, you are getting close….then as more cosmic rays get in, they nucleate clouds, that causes cooling.

      Got ice?

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        30 thousand scientists sign petition claiming global warming science is hoax? If so, thats quite a turn out. A paltry three thousand spoke out against the world trade center demo which is so in your face obvious. Thats when I really started mistrusting the science community. And those guys are designing our high rises and planes and nuke plants! Expect more failures in the future

        • In fact, OISM signatories represent a tiny fraction (~0.3%) of all US science graduates (petition cards were only sent to individuals within the U.S)

          According to figures from the US Department of Education Digest of Education Statistics: 2008, 10.6 million science graduates have gained qualifications consistent with the OISM polling criteria since the 1970-71 school year. 32,000 out of 10 million is not a very compelling figure, but a tiny minority – approximately 0.3 per cent.

          There are many issues casting doubt on the validity of this petition. On investigation, attempts to undermine the scientific consensus on climate change often appear to have ideological roots, vested business interests or political sponsors. The claims made for the OISM petition do not withstand objective scrutiny, and the assertions made in the petition are not supported by evidence, data or scientific research.

          Several studies conducted independently (Oreskes 2004, Oreskes 2007, Doran and Zimmerman (2009), Anderegg et al. (2010), Cook et. al., 2013) have shown that 97% of climate scientists agree that humans are causing the climate to change, and that anthropogenic greenhouse gases are causing global changes to the climate. These views form the scientific consensus on climate change.

          • Wonder what kind of OTHER petition .3% of all scientists would sign?

            The Earth is only 2,000 years old

            Bet you could get more than .3 percent to sign a petition agreeing with that as well.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            AGR, far less spoke out against the world trade center, yet it is obvious to anyone that it was some kind of demolition. You can read the official NIST report…I studied the digest version. The only thing to their credit, in a huge study of nonsense, is that they printed the picture of the woman standing in the hole where the plane went it, proving their study was valueless. Look how many scientists speak out against the ICRP no threshold linear dose model which legally permits nuclear in all its forms. Could it be that all these scientists everywhere are so duped, so stupid, so sold out? This is really really bad news for our species. It turns out to be as bad as one can imagine, thus nobody will believe you. Your argument of percentage of scientists to sign the climate petition does nothing to convince me. Why would it?

            At issue is more than the existence of a changing climate. The causes and effects are so complicated, and so much is yet to be learned, that it is all but foolish to think the scenario of a global climate scenario has been figured out. Chief among these questions are the climate drivers. Do you believe unequivocally that mans puny c02 contribution is the sole driver, larger than man cutting down forests and poisoning plankton? Can you say for sure you can differentiate causes and effects? The truth is we know nothing, you and I, and the scientists havent unraveled either. There is a solution; rely on natures standards, then hope for the best.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              Defaulting to natures standard is pretty obvious; dont pollute, dont cut down trees, dont try to modify the weather, dont poison everything, dont over populate, dont trend toward actions that are out of balance. Navilu's investigation of damming of the rivers is a good example. But we are in the thick of it now.

              Isolating one possible climate driver and ignoring all the other factors, and on top of it trying to make tax schemes is obviously foolish. If man insists on tying everything to climate change, and this is painfully obvious already, then he is certainly doomed, as he will continue is reckless destruction of the ecosphere. In that case, even if it turns out science was right that c02 is the big danger facing mankind, it was still worse than a waste, as the world will be trashed, the animals dead

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                with all that said, it remains that I was the one who posted the story on climate fraud signatures. If it doesnt matter how many or how few scientists signed, whats the point? Remember, 4 out of 5 doctors recommend Camel cigarettes, and an astounding 6 out of five recommend radiation and chemotherapy for cancer! Well, IF it really is 30,000 signatures, thats still a surprising turnout. In the end, it matters not, so long as mans mighty machines of destruction of all types continue to grind the world to a pulverized scorched and lifeless earth. Half the animal life gone since 1970, and NOT because of climate change

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              clarification; the public at large will not believe the claims that the science world is duped, befuddled or corrupt and sold out. Indeed it appears that they are smart enough to fool themselves and their students. The world would do well to remember that all through history, man was only partly correct, or in complete error, even as they considered themselves all knowing

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              Im embarrassed and apologize for my poorly written and unedited posts. Going to sleep then

        • Climate change studies almost all agree that global warming exists and is human caused, less than 1 percent disagree
          Video; 4 min


          Conclusion; if it had not been for the ocean soaking up all of the CO2 and heat, the temperatures would have soared more than 30 degrees Celcius by now.

        • Bill Maher last night tackled Republican climate denial and asked what exactly they have against listening to the overwhelming consensus of over ten thousand climate scientists. He brought up a study showing those thousands of scientists agree on man made climate change, compared to two who don’t.

          Click on link to listen and watch Bill Maher

  • Nick

    "The Thermosphere

    The Earth's thermosphere is the layer of the atmosphere which is first exposed to the Sun's radiation and so is first heated by the Sun. The air is so thin that a small increase in energy can cause a large increase in temperature."

    The sun is not the only player.

    Thin k cosmic.


  • DUDe DUDe

    A underground river flowing at least 300tons over the cores and in to the ocean is called "groundwater" now ?
    Can an artificially made, by the same incompetence that gave us this mess to begin with mind you, icewall stop groun… err i mean underground river ?

    How far are they in attempts to gain upstream control over the underground riverflow over the melted coriums ? I mean..its inevitable this needs to be made happen..

    Oh , its still on the bottom of that dismissed brainstorm paperstack..

    But negotiations about exporting the technollogy are more alive then ever..nuclear is like capitalisme..they seem to be infested with
    "infinite growth" dogma dissorder..

  • Jebus Jebus

    Nuclear Hotseat Producer/Host Libbe HaLevy attended the US 9th District Court Hearing on USS Reagan Sailors v. Tokyo Electric Power Company. The sailors were on an humanitarian aid mission to Japan following the 2011 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami, which caused the Fukushima Daiichi triple meltdowns. TEPCO never informed the US Navy of the dangerous release of radioactivity from the crippled nuclear reactors and as a result, the sailors were exposed to catastrophic levels of radiation.

  • You want to know why there is so much radiation being dissolved out of those underground coriums….because they removed a mountain and built the Fukushima on a river bed. Seriously, here is a moving from back in the day "The Making of Fukushima"

    it is stunning.

  • Read more:

    What kind of catastrophe awaits this century, if the calamitous 0.12c / decade (0.21F / decade) rise continues? The answer is none whatsoever. 0.12c / decade is well within the range of natural variation.

    During the Holocene Optimum, 9000 to 5000 years ago, global temperature was warmer than today. The Eemian, the previous interglacial, was warmer still – up to 8C (14F) warmer in arctic regions.

    What is absent from historical records of the warmer past is evidence of “tipping points” or abrupt harmful changes driven by mild global warming. Even when Earth’s CO2 levels were four times higher than today, the climate was stable, and only 7F higher than today’s temperature.

    Even if CO2 is contributing measurably to global warming, it is not driving change at a rate which will cause harm to the biosphere.

    It is a measure of the desperation of climate advocates that they feel such a compulsion to leap on every slight temperature wobble, in the vain hope that ordinary people will listen to their doom laden rants.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      I just want to pay more taxes to rich billionaires who I know really love me. something like the love PJ feels/gets from Jesus.

      After is always about the money.. and so money.. must = love! 🙂

    • DUDe DUDe

      "..During the Holocene Optimum.."

      stock , i never been to the holocene optimum , sounds like fun , but would i be an idiot in assuming that the forest and the ocean algae and all the other dynamics that play a part in temp regulation were in a much healthier shape , a multitude even , then compared to..ahum..human progress peaking time.. ? Is there Anything at all we did not destroy ourselfes included..
      Anything ? Why the climate that is a complex balanced combination of everything we destroyed should be excluded from our guiltburden is behind me..

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        DUDe, man started cutting down the forests a long time ago. Yes, as soon as one sees CO2 out-gassing as one small art in the global rape and pillage scheme of man, then we can probably blame ourselves for some climate change. But nature made man, and as such is the source of her own demise

        • DUDe DUDe

          Maybe someone messed with our heads..and gave us a shave.. we behave as un-natural as manmade nuclear on this planet..

          Why o why are there human cultures that does not rape and pillage just because they can..but we do..and we murder them too..

        • DUDe DUDe

          " started cutting down the forests a long time ago.."

          Sure , but the capacity to do that was nothing compared to the forest's WMD's we apply was all fire or manpower..and our population numbers..and no concrete..and individual years/age of destruction to the environment..and we had to watch our back from our fellow species we just roll over everything without looking back..

          • DUDe DUDe

            ..and live a long time doing it..for now..

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            DUDe Man deforested Europe over 300 years ago. 'What is left in the countryside of Central Europe today as "forest", is not natural forest, but a cultural landscape created over thousands of years which consists almost exclusively of replacement communities. The oldest evidence of man and forest interaction in Central Europe is about 500,000 years ago, whenfrom some hand axes have been found. Since the end of the last glacial period, the Würm glaciation (about 11 700 years BP), humans began to play a part transforming the potential natural vegetation. Sedentary, Neolithic farmers of the Linear Pottery Culture, about 7,500 years ago, began to change the forested landscape massively. during the period 1750-1850 forests in Central Europe had been decimated, causing a serious lack of timber. Some contemporary reports even spoke partly of desert-like landscapes at that time.


            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              my view on the detached destructive nature of man is that we are no more and no less nature than anything. We dont become despondent when the acids in the stomach kill billions of microbes and churn once beautiful plants..and god forbid, animals…to a slurry, nor are we horrified when whole galaxies collide or suns explode. All of the horrible ways of man can be traced back to causative forces. Ego…hard to find its grand usefulness, but its origins are primordial

              • DUDe DUDe

                I agree to a certain point but but..

                "..Why o why are there human cultures that does not rape and pillage just because they can..but we do..and we murder them too.."

                Some code (no pun intended..;)) got injected in our algoritme along the way..maybe our technological dominance and hierarchical societal structure allowed individuals to become so powerfull the disconnection was so severe they went insane and started focussing the structure and purpose of the whole society to benefit them and over generations they shaped hole cultures of greed that were allowed to rampage and pillar as long as the majority of wealth went to the top in whatever shape..who knows..but something happened..

                Fact remains..some cultures to this day are immune fore our "desease"

  • Bad computer modeling leads to bad predictions
    Now that the global warming hoax has been utterly discredited, you have to ask how the scientists were so terribly wrong about it all along.

    If you discount for a moment the idea that they were all just lying about it, you have to conclude that their computer models used to predict the effects of rising CO2 levels are wildly inaccurate. Computer models are, of course, attempts by scientists to guess how changes in certain variables might impact outcomes.

    Learn more:

    • This is why all of us who are true scientists must remain ever vigilant about our own beliefs, and we must be willing to question them and publicly change our positions if we find we are in the wrong. (Case in point: I used to believe the global warming hype, but I publicly changed my position based on new evidence that clearly contradicted my former belief.)

      Learn more:

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        There is always the possibility that we are still warming from the last ice age and will continue to go higher in temperatures like code's candles. If we are dealing with X amount of candles steadily being lit naturally then throwing sticks of burning wood in that same room might cause a raging fire once all the candle wax catches.

        The next couple of winters should be interesting..I will continue to chop plenty of wood.

        Manmade Pollution is poison in all of this Earth.. is always better than those created that are not of this Earth.

        All of it is about the money made by everyone in a system created that is now killing this Earth.

        62 people are laughing all the way to the bank as we all chase carrots trying to please our Gods.

        • DUDe DUDe

          "..There is always the possibility that we are still warming from the last ice age and will continue to go higher in temperatures like code's candles.."

          At this speed since the industrial revolution obe ? Almost every month a new record , defenitly every year..nothing natural about that..
          I'm open to flying tru a hot spot in the milky way or something..but at this speed warming up from that..dont make it a habit to wear flammable clothes then lol..

          And there is still that blanket (irrelevant how small ) we hung up there after destroying the rest of the planet's temp regulating mechanismes and we know there are very powerfull financial interest's that dont want us to utter it shouldent be there..and they have murdered people in the past iirc..

          Clear as 911 to me..

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