Alpha radiation detected near Japan’s west coast in Niigata, Yamagata — Local official suspects levels too high to be from Fukushima Daiichi (VIDEO)

Published: May 9th, 2012 at 4:48 pm ET
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南相馬市 大山こういちのブログ : 日本海側のアルファ線検知
Website of Oyama Koichi, member of the city council of Minamisōma city in Fukushima
Published: May 9, 2012

Via Fukushima Diary: “Oyama measured alpha ray in Yamagata and Niigata prefecture, where are on Japan sea side [...] Because this is too high even compared to the contamination situation in Fukushima, Mr. Oyama suspects it might be from past nuclear tests.”

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Published: May 9th, 2012 at 4:48 pm ET
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70 comments to Alpha radiation detected near Japan’s west coast in Niigata, Yamagata — Local official suspects levels too high to be from Fukushima Daiichi (VIDEO)

  • dosdos dosdos

    Or it might be an accident involving all that weapon's grade plutonium they're storing.


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  • GeoHarvey

    Radioactive materials were found in the Sea of Japan only about a week after the disaster started. The official story was that it had probably been moved there by currents. I spent some time trying to figure out how that was possible, and came to the conclusion that what they thought were currents in the sea were actually smoke from a pipe dream.

    We know that centimeter sized fuel fragments that had recently been part of a critical mass were thrown over a mile from the plant – we were told this by an official of the US NRC in a July 28 conference call (though the official transcript is missing a few important words). I wondered at the time whether something might have gone into the Sea of Japan. It is an awfully long way. But the force needed to throw something as small as a centimeter over a mile would have thrown something much more massive a good deal farther. It seems very, very unlikely, but really, alpha particles are not common in nature.


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      Welcome, GeoHarvey! Thank you for your thoughtful input. It's always nice to hear new voices here. :-)

      Gotta love it:

      "I spent some time trying to figure out how that was possible, and came to the conclusion that what they thought were currents in the sea were actually smoke from a pipe dream."

      LOL!!! :-D Well said, GeoHarvey! Can I borrow that from you sometime? It's a doozie! :-)


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  • Blown Camaro

    BAM! You said it.


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  • GeoHarvey

    My guess (I am an engineer, and though I would not consider myself an expert in ballistics, I have worked in the field) is that the fuel fragments left the area where they were in the plant at a velocity well above twice the speed of sound, perhaps a multiple of that speed. They were not stabilized, and had a very bad ballistic shape, so they were probably losing more than half their energy every hundred yards.

    A massive object might have gone far enough to "leave the atmosphere," reducing drag. Whether it could have gone as far as the Sea of Japan is a guess. It seems impossible. But then, TEPCO said the whole thing was impossible only a couple years ago.


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  • eatliesndie eatliesndie

    Reactor 3 blew alpha emitters all over Honshu and beyond and people are finding it everywhere there. Thicker in some spots than others.


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  • dosdos dosdos

    #3 was a nuclear mortar, but most of the stuff that went over a few miles wasn't solid, and it didn't stay in the lower atmosphere. If it's that strong and that far away, I'd look for another source.

    Keep in mind all those stories about the secretive gathering of isotopes at Fukushima and manually distributed elsewhere…..


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  • Bobby1

    1.4 uSv/hr is 20x background, and that is just alpha. That doesn't seem likely to come from nuclear tests. I don't remember seeing readings like this last year so far away from the plant… this kind of accumulation is recent, the past few months at the most.

    The radiation deposited last March and April is being dwarfed now by the stuff that has come down since then.


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    • What-About-The-Kids

      Yes, you're right, Bobby1. The accumulation adds up over time.

      And where did I read that the radiation levels/output from certain isotopes actually gets WORSE over time? (i.e. due to the decay chain daughters or something to that effect?)


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      • What-About-The-Kids

        Though, on the other hand, we probably didn't see such readings from these places last year because either:

        a) they weren't testing for these alpha radioisotopes or more likely:

        b) they weren't sharing the fact that they were testing nor were they sharing the results of their tests

        So it could be from other, more local sources…scary thought that it is. :-(


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      • Bobby1

        Kids, yes it's possible, plutonium-241 decaying into more dangerous americium comes to mind.

        Fuku Diary has a story, 250 uSv/hr in Namie. That is absolutely nuts. Chernobyl is a Mary Poppins story compared to that.


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      • GeoHarvey

        The will get worse, because the daughters have shorter halflives. But the daughters will nearly never be alpha emitters.


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    • vital1 vital1

      Americium-241 is the most prevalent isotope of americium in nuclear waste and it is an Alpha emitter.

      It is also disposed of all over the world by the industry in tiny little bits in ionization smoke detectors.


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      • Spectrometising

        Hey Vital1, Good point.

        On a slightly different note, i think it awesome you have bitten the bullet and purchased gamma spectrometry equipment. I can send a small samples of radioactive mineral samples (Free) which will be encapsulated in epoxy resin in the form of buttons. The mineral contained within will be tiny, but more than enough for good gamma spectrometry.

        I can get your postal details from Steven if you ask him to send them to me, or on facebook at 'gamma spectacular' facebook page.

        Offer is there.

        This should help you to calibrate your apparatus. :-)


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      • vital1 vital1

        Correction, "Americium-241 is the most prevalent isotope in nuclear waste and it is an Alpha emitter."


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  • Jebus Jebus

    What are the odds, that an already twice nuked little island country, the size of montana, with over one hundren twenty million people, would put fifty four plus nuclear power plants, all along their ocean shores, in one of the most earthquake and tsunami prone areas in the world? Sheesh, what are the odds?


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    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      GE and Rockefellers, and others, were encouraging if not forcing nuclear research over there. Too bad the failures are now all over the Northern Hemisphere especially, and the Southern Hemisphere as well. Every one should boycott NBC and all other GE products. I know I am. All TV and radio and newspapers should refuse their advertising.


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      • americancommntr

        "Autism, Mercury, and the Global Vaccine Agenda" by Michael Ayoub, MD, available at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIFpbAxDMYI
        contains mention that those who began working on Memorandum 200, found the Rockefeller Institute was decades ahead of them already in research and work toward reducing world population in almost every conceivable research topic area.


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    • NoNukes NoNukes

      Jebus, I think this is why everyone wants the atomic bomb, they saw what the U.S. was able to accomplish in Japan for decades afterwards. Insanity.


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  • If 3 is gone, I’m no longer sure 4 makes much of a difference.

    Professor Koide claimed the following: 1331 assemblies = 5000 X as much cesium 137 as released by Hiroshima (89 terabecquerels) (Footage of the NYC Press Conference May 4th 2012 Cinema Forum Fukushima http://cinemaforumfukushima.org/2012/05/06/archive-footage-of-the-nyc-press-conference-may-4th-2012/)

    According to the report linked here (http://www.nirs.org/reactorwatch/accidents/6-1_powerpoint.pdf),

    Each spent fuel pool at the reactor buildings contained 3,450 fuel assemblies.

    Hence, we can extrapolate that spent fuel pool #3 had 2.592X as much cesium as spent fuel pool 4 (1331 assemblies). So, spent fuel pool #3 could have had 12,960X as much cesium as the Hiroshima bomb, or 1,153,440 terabecquerels of cesium-137.

    These figures are really only general estimations and do not address the relative depletion of radiation in the spent fuel pools since they're based on Koide's estimation of the amount of radiation in fuel pool 4, which contained new fuel. So, the figures are useful but only ballpark in nature.

    STILL, we are talking huge amounts of fuel that could have been vaporized at 3 (and this doesn't even include the fuel in the reactor core)

    moreover…


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  • StillJill StillJill

    I'm so sorry majia! Almost laid down with a headache myself today,….but I just can't sleep, so why bother? My stomach was like yours last night,….cried myself to sleep.

    Are you doing the soak baths majia? Epsom salt, baking soda, and MSM powder. As hot as you can stand,…and stay there for 20-30 minutes and SWEAT, K? Pretty please. Your kids need you,…WE NEED YOU FRIEND! :-)


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  • RutherfordsGhost

    Alpha energy spectrum's are easy to measure -it will tell you what the material is. Where is Busby?


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  • Sickputer

    Get better Majia… I get relief with hand-held hair dryer just to get some sensation other than throbbing. ;-) Headaches here in Texas also…son, spouse, and me. In the land beyond aspirin. But we're tough. Still doing things that need doing. Hang in there. They haven't killed us yet.


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  • Sharp2197 Sharp2197

    Radiation on the Japan sea side of the island. We must take into account that N. Korea is attempting to go nuclear. They could have had an accidental release… or possibly a purposeful release under the cover of Japans nuclear problems.


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    • Sickputer

      Whenever I see the reports of heavy fallout here, there, or everywhere (Europe back in November, etc..)…I seldom take my eye off the emissions from Fukushima Daiichi.

      Until proven otherwise I am going to believe that megaplex is the main polluter of radioactive fallout for the entire globe.

      Get your calculators out…

      TEPCO said they have (had) 1,760 TONS of uranium at Fukushima Daiichi. Page 4 in this PowerPoint:

      http://criepi.denken.or.jp/result/event/seminar/2010/issf/pdf/6-1_powerpoint.pdf

      So…2,000 pounds to a ton gives us a grand total of:

      3.5 million pounds of uranium.

      For comparison….Chernobyl had 180 tons (360 thousand pounds) of unenriched uranium (.07% of U-235) versus the enriched uranium fuel for Daiichi which contains 4 times more U-235.

      So ten times more nuclear fuel and 4 times more powerful per unit. But wait…we have a MOX fueled Unit 3 that absolutely raises the bar to another level. And it has already blown the coop into the atmosphere.

      Unit 4 may also be loaded with MOX fuel, although this has not been verified. In any event…spent fuel always contains plutonium (about 1%) as a waste uranium byproduct.

      Emissions (visible at times, invisible other times) are leaving every day from Fukushima Daiichi. With a inventory of fuel that started at 3.5 million pounds of uranium this plant has the ability to deposit huge amounts of airborne and waterborne radiation fallout all across the globe.


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      • mikael

        I agree, and dont for a moment loos he whole picture, because is the problem, the constant driwel about "how fu.. low the emition is". I am saying that the numbers are a divertion, from simple fact as scaleand scope.

        The other is whats been sayed and mesured thrue the last year, is almoust Nothing. The downplaying is still the agenda of the day, I dont belivwe in ANYTHING they say or diplay to the public.
        Nothing is true.

        We have atleast 10-15 metlouts and still we driwel about a "pool".
        We have gone beyound everything is the past, plutonium is even in Europa(remember the Baltic readouts).
        The nexts is the Comercial fliths, whitch I warned about a year ago, that will eventualy expoce the dagerous levels, if not dealt with, it will anyway manifets it self.
        Again, its the prace of stupidity and ignorace, is going to be High, I am afraid.

        The issues are spreading fast, over a continously broader specter of comerce and travel, afecting everything. And still the only real news lately is the wakeup of the Japanes people.
        We are witnesing brave people, doing and stating issues unheard of just years ago.
        The ONLY hope we all have, is that people realise the size of this fu..up.

        I am afraid its already to late, whats nexts is to behold the damages done, and the corruption of the media, policys and corporat gread, when the world dies.

        The only salvation there is, and I know where to find it, its the nearest Mirror, is all you need.

        peace


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  • Dogleg Dogleg

    Gotta be some more of that Glow in the dark paint they kept finding about 10 mo ago. I cant stop laughing….


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    • NoNukes NoNukes

      Yes, paint, pottery, or maybe it is a gift from reactor 1?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLhb1W2lBm4&feature=youtu.be


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      • Dogleg Dogleg

        Wow, that Nukelchen is something else. I hadnt seen this one yet


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      • omniversling

        WTFukUp Unit1 steamin' like a bitch on steroids today…

        Did someone forget to turn the shower off? Inside the 'sanitary tent'? The plastic fabric thingy that separates us from the acutely deadly off-gassing of groundwater and sea water from the 65 tonne molten lava corium. But doesn't. ForFuku'Sake, and ours,

        NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO MORE NUKES! NO…


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  • StillJill StillJill

    Thanks NoNukes! It looks even worse the second time!

    If this (pardon the vernacular) ain't 'the smokin' gun',….there ain't no smokin' gun!


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    • NoNukes NoNukes

      StillJill,

      Your comment highlighted it for me! The image that comes to mind when I read these headlines. I tried to find Nuckelchen's video where R1 was red and you could just see the stuff raging out of it, but no luck yet.

      My visits are so haphazard right now, I feel like I have missed so much. How is Mama? I'm so sorry that you are in pain! I wish that I could heal you both right up. I can't believe that xdrfox is gone, either. Tears in my eyes, I am afraid of our future tonight.


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    • Dogleg Dogleg

      Thanks Taco. I recently had a look at clover and dandylions in my yard. Didnt see anything I thought was unusual. I will take a closer look tommorow.


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  • snowwy snowwy

    1999
    Sept. 30, Tokaimura, Japan: uncontrolled chain reaction in a uranium-processing nuclear fuel plant spewed high levels of radioactive gas into the air, killing two workers and seriously injuring one other.
    =========================
    2007
    July 17, Kashiwazaki, Japan: radiation leaks, burst pipes, and fires at a major nuclear power plant followed a 6.8 magnitude earthquake near Niigata. Japanese officials, frustrated at the plant operators' delay in reporting the damage, closed the plant a week later until its safety could be confirmed. Further investigation revealed that the plant had unknowingly been built directly on top of an active seismic fault.
    ==============================


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  • Sharp2197 Sharp2197

    Magnitude 5.2 – NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
    This webpage has been replaced by a new version and will be phased out in the future. Please use our new Real-time Earthquake Map to access the latest earthquake information and event details. The links to the World, US, and CA/NV maps that were in the navigation on the left side of the page have been replaced by the links at the top of the new Map. The Real-time Earthquake Map User Guide describes how to use the map and all its features.
    2012 May 10 00:28:22 UTC
    Versión en Español
    DetailsSummaryMapsScientific & TechnicalEarthquake Details
    This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.
    Magnitude 5.2
    Date-Time Thursday, May 10, 2012 at 00:28:22 UTC
    Thursday, May 10, 2012 at 09:28:22 AM at epicenter
    Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

    Location 39.866°N, 142.185°E
    Depth 42.5 km (26.4 miles)
    Region NEAR THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
    Distances 91 km (56 miles) ENE of Morioka, Honshu, Japan
    93 km (57 miles) SE of Hachinohe, Honshu, Japan
    161 km (100 miles) SE of Aomori, Honshu, Japan
    511 km (317 miles) NNE of TOKYO, Japan

    Location Uncertainty horizontal +/- 16.2 km (10.1 miles); depth +/- 8.4 km (5.2 miles)
    Parameters NST=400, Nph=401, Dmin=474.2 km, Rmss=0.73 sec, Gp= 58°,
    M-type=body wave magnitude (Mb), Version=8
    Source Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
    Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)


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  • RJ Rodney

    There are rumors of a sunken Russian nuclear submarine at the bottom of the Japan sea


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  • Sickputer

    Not just rumors…the Russians have admitted they are nuclear waste polluters:

    "“In March 1993, after several years of revelations about the dumping of radioactive waste at sea, the Russian government released a White Paper describing some 30 years of the dumping of radioactive waste at sea. The so-called Yablokov report detailed how 18 damaged naval nuclear reactors and two internal reactor screen assemblies were dumped in the seas around the Soviet Union. Sixteen reactors were dumped in the Kara Sea and 2 in the Sea of Japan. One reactor screen assembly was dumped in the Kara Sea and one off Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky in the northern Pacific Ocean."

    http://jonbowermaster.com/blog/2009/05/russias-nuclear-leftovers/

    SP: I read on this website Russia admitted to dumping 900 tons of liquid nuclear waste in 1993 into the Sea of Japan.

    http://www1.american.edu/TED/japansea.htm

    But no sense in just castigating Russia…all the nuclear powers have had "accidents" and long-lasting toxic poison has been dumped onto Mother earth.

    The officials and scientists in charge worldwide are Dr. Frankenstein bastards who should be sent to work at Fukushima. Knowing what they have done they should off themselves as an atonement for their crimes against humanity. But we know they are craven cowards.


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    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      Sunken Soviet N-sub leaking radioactivity
      website last updated: April 6, 2012

      “…Altogether, there are a total of 339 nuclear-powered ships and submarines in the five nuclear navies. Between them, they carry a total of 513 nuclear reactors, more than the total number of reactors based on land. At least seven have sunk, either at sea or in port. The navy of what was the former Soviet Union is the largest nuclear navy, with 294 reactors on its nuclear-powered submarines….

      “To this day, no official statistics concerning sunken nuclear submarines, leaks, fires or explosions exists. Seven sunken nuclear submarines are docu-mented. The number of accidents is estimated to be a few hundred. Only a few are known…”
      http://www10.antenna.nl/wise/index.html?http://www10.antenna.nl/wise/365/3591.html


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      • richard richard

        Thanks Anne. I kind of knew it was bad, what you, SP and Rodney have revealed, … just makes me feel so hopeless. This planet is toast, were is the justice? Sick, honestly, these humans are just so morally bankrupt. Apes with suits.

        Every nuker that is still breathing needs to be sent to fuku until it's cleaned up.. this is just dreadful stuff.. hopelessly dreadful. Life is so close to not be worth living, there is nothing left to loose, the pigs that have brought this onto the planet need severe retribution. The most severe that can be brought against them. The most harshest and demoralising force needs to pumped into them until they are almost lifeless, then revive them and start again. Time and again.

        Words cannot describe my disbelief anymore in the insanity of this nuclear foolery.


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      • Nuclear Ships And Subs Pose Huge Risk To Humanity; Could Easily Start WW III Accidentally via @AGreenRoad
        http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/02/nuclear-ships-and-subs-pose-huge-risk.html


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    • richard richard

      Thanks SP, I think. That's woeful, and I agree wholeheartedly with your take on the evil bastards.

      Since fuku, I've learnt the word ecocide. A new word I'm trying to get my head around is futurecide (or there abouts), for the crime against life of the future – in whatever form it maybe.

      I've decided that anyone who thinks leaving toxic waste for future generations to clean up after them is morally vacant. Every thought path I've followed on this principle just comes back to zero. I cannot find a justification for poisoning the lives of the 'not born yet'.

      Your information has reinforced my view another notch.


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    • Anthony Anthony

      You are right. The people who pushed and plied Nuclear Power into being what it is, at this point can only show their integrity by correcting this problem. Even if it is futile like Fukushima, the ones who did this need to tend this. Everyone else has their own lives to try to put back together. The tragedy in Japan was the Tsunami. I never cried harder for strangers in my life. The strong people of Japan could have stood back up after the Tsunami and carried onward. Had Japan either not had the reactors or simply managed them correctly, we wouldn't be in this awful place that no one wants to be. The reactor accidents were 100% preventable.


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  • Max1 Max1

    They're just NOW measuring increased back ground radiation from…
    … The Nagasaki and Hiroshima bombings?

    Is there an incinerator in the area?


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  • FaraFola

    There's a problems in 14 nuclear plants all over Japan after that Quake, maybe they're covering up that fact, that Daiichi is not only one that blew up sky high… Hopefully not


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