Anonymous Japan Official: We must prepare for Fukushima radioactive leakage into ocean becoming ‘drawn out’ — Prime Minister: “The future of Japan” is at stake

Published: September 22nd, 2013 at 7:58 pm ET
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Title: INSIGHT: Abe takes political risk by stressing government in charge of Fukushima plant
Source: Asahi Shimbun
Author: Norihisa Hoshino and Tomoyoshi Otsu
Date: September 20, 2013

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has raised the stakes in his gamble concerning the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

[…] by bringing greater attention to the accident, Abe has opened himself up to potential criticism if problems and setbacks continue to emerge in a cleanup process that has so far been anything but smooth.

Abe told workers at the plant site, “While the work you are doing is difficult, the future of Japan rests on your shoulders.” […]

Abe focused on efforts to prevent the contaminated water from leaking into the ocean. […]

A former Cabinet minister said measures to address the various problems related to the Fukushima nuclear accident will have a major effect on the nation’s fiscal condition. […]

“One thing we will have to think about in the future is what to do should the problem become drawn out,” a high-ranking government official said.

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Published: September 22nd, 2013 at 7:58 pm ET
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58 comments to Anonymous Japan Official: We must prepare for Fukushima radioactive leakage into ocean becoming ‘drawn out’ — Prime Minister: “The future of Japan” is at stake

  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    “One thing we will have to think about in the future is what to do should the problem become drawn out,” a high-ranking government official said."

    Drawn out, as in, oh, a few billion years?

    I'll tell you one thing, when the Japanese finally do crack their stoic personas, it will be epic. Everything the Japanese have believed, everything they have stood for, every story, every ounce of their being, will have been for nothing. Their leaders will all die as cowards, hounded by a population dying from their leader's hubris. There is no more honor in Japan. None.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Now, Now, I know time is short but the fate of the Japanese People will be the fate of the world!

      if they lose faith then the rest of the world will lose faith and then I am afraid its game over for everybody.

      We all are complicit in this folly!

      This ongoing running Zeitgest Matrix has been a very powerful controller for the entire world!

      • >> if they lose faith then the rest of the world will lose faith and then I am afraid its game over for everybody.

        If that happens, I don't want the 1% ers selecting the next game. They lost, they don't get to pick.

      • We Not They Finally

        obewan, you keep wanting to make us all complicit. We are NOT all complicit. I'm not complicit — no way, no how! It would be helpful if you stopped doing this.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          We have been over this before and you are wrong.

          If you pay by force taxes to your government entity and/or pay any energy bills for electricity, then you are then complicit, just like I am and everyone else consuming electricity derived from Nuclear Power Generation!

          • We Not They Finally

            That's completely disrespectful branding me "wrong." Anyone with paychecks doesn't really have any choice about taxes. Look — a proportion of ALL of our taxes goes to so-called "black projects" which have always been concealed, and wrongfully paid for by the tax payer. Yet we need government money for vital services and the like.

            And shutting down the government, like the do-nothing Congress apparently wants, just hurts everyone. The problem is the system, not me. My responsibility is to be aware, and to support efforts to protest or change. But I'm not complicit in the likes of Fukushima — no way, no how!! I condemn it with every fiber of my being.

            This is something you actually have no right to decide for others.

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              You can think what you want to and I stick to my statements and if you like me are going to enjoy this dynamic ride called progress, then we all better pay better attention to why we pay our taxes and for what reason we pay them the same as those there energy bills each month.

              This massive Nuclear Problem did not just happen while you and I were sleeping..

              This has been a huge problem for a very, very long time, in fact for most of our lives!

              We were all hoodwinked by the best!

          • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

            Your argument we should go off the grid because our energy supplier co-mingled the sources doesn't recognize corporate use far outnumbers residential. The numbers needed to make an impact would have to be substantial. The position also doesn't recognize the the nuclear industry is a deep pocketed behemoth that shoved these things down our throats. Although it might not have been the same nationally, the local reactor in my area growing up was fought tooth and nail. Did nothing. The locals and their concerns were a mere blip on the corporate radar. Then while it was being built the stories from temps about drinking, drugging, and napping on the clock from the inside….(shakes head). People tried to address these stories but it was just deny, deny, deny.

        • WNTF, if Obewan thinks your wrong that is not disrespectful. It is his point of view. Personally I think we are all complicit in this as we have allowed this to happen in a democratic society. Democracy requires eternal vigilance. You have allowed your taxes to support the nuclear industry. Collectively we all have been asleep at the wheel. You said "But I'm not complicit in the likes of Fukushima — no way, no how!! I condemn it with every fiber of my being. This is something you actually have no right to decide for others." Everybody has a right to his or her opinions. Enenews is a place for everyones opinions to be heard. You said "Anyone with paychecks doesn't really have any choice about taxes. Look — a proportion of ALL of our taxes goes to so-called "black projects" which have always been concealed, and wrongfully paid for by the tax payer." Sounds like you are resigned to this situation. You do have choices but the easiest most comfortable thing to do is to just let it happen. Collectively, we have just let it happen. I think that is what Obewan is saying. I agree. We have free speech and the ability to get as involved as we want to in the political system. Many don't even vote. Many vote and think thats enough. Rare is the citizen that makes a political statement every day. I'll be the first to say I could have done more.

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Me too! 🙂

            And why we are here now and yes I am complicit and yes I am guilty as charged by myself!

            Others must now take a look in the mirror too!

            Unless we lay blame on ourselves.. nothing will ever change!

          • hbjon hbjon

            If you and Obewan feel guilty and partially responsible for the nuclear situations around the world, that's between you and your better angels to come to peace with. A lot of us here have educated ourselves in the dangers we face and have written our congressmen. In a society where news and information threatens the survival of the 1 percenters, people will remain powerless and ignorant on all the major issues. You can't blame a dog for crapping on your carpet.

            • There is a feeling of helplessness a lot of people have that nothing will change. This thinking leads to half the voters not bothering to. The other half feel that civic duty is fulfilled by voting every four years. The number of people that will write a letter to a politician is a tiny fraction of the voting public. Kudos to you, hbjon.
              Since half the people don't even bother to vote, then an optimistic expectation would be for 25% of the voting public to actually vote meaning if 25% more of the voters would actually invest an hour every four years into our political process this would be a big step forward. However when you think of all the full time lobbyists, politicians and media personnel working 40 or more hours a week to creat an agenda, once every four year participation rate doesn't cut it. Collectively we don't invest enough time into the political system. Democracy requires eternal vigilance. Not just voting every 4 years and more then a bit of research and the odd letter to a politician. We've collectively been asleep at the wheel only to wake up in the dark. We are the master of the dog that pooped on our rug but we were too lazy to wake up and put the dog outside.

              • hbjon hbjon

                We are the master? Nope, we are the dog. The master is to be blamed for the mess on the carpet. Perhaps Obewan is the master?

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  First off all you can't blame the dog for crapping on the carpet if the master never unlocked the door after feeding him his meal…

                  The dog only behaves as well/good as he is trained by any master..

                  Yet, if the master dies and has locked himself in the same room with the dogs, surely the dogs will eat their master in order to survive..

                  A wild pack of dogs may have no human master and they often rule the lands that they travel..

                  Alpha dogs then appear to be all our masters thus making the masters and the dogs one and the same..

                  I rest my case..

                  • hbjon hbjon

                    Thanks Obewan for making my point. As the Master can you predict any future carpet messes with all us ignorant dogs running around with bellies full of tuna?

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Since we are all dogs many of us will die a horrible death from eating tuna..you should let the rest of your pack know right away.

                    • hbjon hbjon

                      I tried to tell some of the dogs in my pack but their too busy licking their privates and crapping on the carpet to really understand the magnitude of the situation that faces us. They'd prolly kick my arse and shove my nose in their pile if they read what I said about them.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      .. 😉

              • NoNukes NoNukes

                Nuclear is a net consumer of energy, it has nothing to do with producing energy, it has everything to do with producing weapons.

                • many moons

                  +1,000!!!!

                • Anthony Anthony

                  With ya….

                • hbjon hbjon

                  Now that's just silliness. It has a lot to do with producing energy. Let me try to explain. One gram of uranium has the heat energy of 2000 tons of coal when its full potential is realized. Sounds like economical energy when the cons aren't figured in. Industrial reactors are not designed to produce weapons grade fuel. But, you have more cheerleader so I guess you're right.

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                if 100% of the people vote, but the same proportion vote the same way, it makes no difference. If 100% vote, but there is nobody good to vote for, its also not effective. If there is someone good to vote for but he is controlled by hidden forces, then its still no good.

                How much money did the Obama campaign spend on figuring out what buzz words people wanted to hear? Millions. So if 100% of the people vote, and by a miracle there is a good candidate, and by providence he is not controlled by larger forces, you still have the problem that the minds of the voters are controlled by highly funded campaigns. So its still not effective in guiding the powers that be to do the right thing.

                Actually, the truth of this is seen right before our eyes. So I dont know why people keep complaining and putting blame on voters. Leaders are SUPPOSED to do the right things, more or less, without constant and ineffective prodding. Millions have protested, yet the bankers still took the loot, the criminals still got away with it, and nuclear poison still kills millions. I dont know who is the stronger die hard; will the last person standing say we need more voters or will he say we need more nuclear reactors?

            • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

              After 70% of Americans asked Congress to refuse Hank Paulson his $700 billion TARP fund only to have it pass anyway I don't hold much stock in the public's control over Congress. They said we didn't understand but I know I did: the system would have had a cleaning out. That is their stock response; we don't understand. They know most of us are disengaged and they act like the rest of us aren't getting the information although it is true. There is much kept quiet under the guise of national security.

              My personal experience is that people somewhat embrace nuclear energy. I think they're afraid of coal's health issues. I think they believe a fracking accident is more likely than nuclear. I think that unlike ene readers, they don't keep up on the accidents/leaks in reactors in their vicinity and feel the linking of health problems to background radiation mere scare mongering. I think there are far more people out there with this line of thinking then we sometimes want to admit here at ene.

              I also think the surveillance state we've realized we're in makes people worry about their association with certain causes. I know some worry how their employers would feel about it and feel they have to tread very carefully.

              • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

                "although it is true" at end of 1st paragraph was supposed to be edited off as I'd originally gone off on some other tangent there. Sorry I neglected to grab the whole piece and looks like I'm suggesting we don't have all the info.

              • NoNukes NoNukes

                I may ask my kid what she would like to do, or what she thinks is best, but that does not mean that our family is a democracy, or that her ideas about what we should spend money on have any bearing because she does not have any control over the cash.

                The United States and Japan are not "democracies" either as the people do not have control over the money. The Bank of Japan and the Federal Reserve do have that control and have been systematically destroying the people's economies for generations.

                Those in the financial sector who are responsible for destroying the economy for the people have also supported the spread of nuclear weapons and poisons. The people are the victims of these frauds. Follow the money.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Only if the majority of tax payers revolted, amounting to a government boycott, would change occur. But you cant get the majority to do this. Its the same with voting, which has not demonstrated positive results, and even worse for demonstrations like the occupy movement. At this point, public activism only gives the illusion of personal power, in practical reality there is none.

          From a different viewpoint, an argument could be made that we are all part of the same fabric of life and the evil doers are a reflection of our consciousness, as we are of theirs, thus some influence exists. But that type of argument is fraught with impracticality. It assumes free will and many things which are not consistent with its own unification premise. i.e. if all "individual parts" are illusory thus interdependent, then by definition, there are no independent individual parts to exercise freedom to influence the others. Thus, we had better stick to the practical, even if illusory, since its the acting principle on the stage of life experience

      • We Not They Finally

        Yes time is short…Looking back at the unfolding of this world diseaster…It seems almost unavoidable.The first lie was the lie of the nuclear industry claiming that nuclear energy was safe.The rest is coverup and inevitability.If Obama has terror in his eyes . Thats totally understandable.Any sane human would also.Will our alien friends try to rescue us?I dont know.Time is short. prepare yourselves..Forget the rest.Meanwhile the sun is going nuts. Pole shift will come soon and massive explosions may soon be our fate.There is no safety near the earths core and no safety anywhere.Planckton is dying in the ocean and oxygen is being lost along with the ocean.If the elite wants this dying earth let them have it..

    • patb2009

      after WW2 ended a number of high level military officials ended up as peasants,
      wildly despised, and beaten for what they brought upon the islands.

      Japan found themselves no longer knowing what to believe, now they have the same problem.

      • We Not They Finally

        Actually, Shinzo Abe does NOT have that problem, he doesn't think. He is from a very militaristic background. His grandfather was a major Japanese war criminal. He himself has never given up wanting to militarize Japan, whatever international law says.

        • Shinzo Abe definitely thinks. His priorities just don't match up with yours or mine. His family background is political. Where are you getting your information from? What Wikipedia says of Kan Abe, Shinzo's grandfather. "He was elected to the House of Representatives, and enjoyed great popularity, earning the nickname "New Shōin" or "Shōwa Shōin" in honor of the earlier leader from Yamaguchi, Yoshida Shōin. At the time of his death, he was preparing to run in the first postwar general election."
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kan_Abe

      • Anthony Anthony

        Profound. True.

    • We Not They Finally

      Its not just the future of Japan..Its the future of us all including the psychopaths who have out of greed and ignorance destroyed even their own world…Yes and the darkest hell imaginable is waiting to welcome the psychopaths home.

  • mairs mairs

    Abe told workers at the plant site, “While the work you are doing is difficult, the future of Japan rests on your shoulders.”

    He's such an incredible jerk. How did they elect such a rotten human being.

    • We Not They Finally

      RE-elect. He was PM before. According to Yoichi Shimatsu, he was the one who brought MOX fuel to Japan, illegal at that time, in coordination with the Cheney cabal.

      Only 24.6% of the voting population even voted in the election that brought him back to power. And apparently no one there has the money or power to oppose him. It's all very bad FOR US ALL.

    • Anthony Anthony

      Sounds noble in a way… but what a sad state of affairs though it is in fact.

    • We Not They Finally

      Jerk is totally the wrong word to describe such a totally evil creature…I would say that Abe is the manifestation of such malignant evil and ignorance..That catastrophe walks behind his every step.That this is truly the beginning of the end of all of us.

      For 60 years we have been allowing malignant evil to transport the Earth to some kind of totality.A man made ELE:Extinction level event.God help us…

      • Anthony Anthony

        Totally agree and we can see how it manifests in the individual like a sore thumb. The trick though might be to shift our spotlight to their Job and Job Description which is the vehicle which actually transported us to this shitty place collectively. With that perspective you see that there have been untold and unnamed even Drivers who took us here over time. But it was there Vehicle, which we believed stood by and for the people it served, it was the vehicle which needed to be thrashed, broke down and rebuilt properly so it could in turn attract the right people, for and by its people like it should.

        Theres always been and always will be extra funky people.

        We have to NOT allow a system to ever be BUILT to work against us like we did this time.

        That is the real mistake.

  • razzz razzz

    Japanese government saying "drawn out" means diluting any radioactive materials like filtered cooling water and dumping it in the Pacific which everyone here already knows does not work because of bio-accumulation. Trying to dilute radioactivity and dumping it into the wild allows it to re-concentrate. Radioactivity disappearing into the Pacific has proven to be a nuclear industry fallacy.

  • razzz razzz

    Fukus' Diary mentions again nitrogen injections which TEPCO never states but have been ongoing and continuous after 3/11. That also leads me to believe the melts are nearby when TEPCO has to still be worried about hydrogen building up in all three blown units.

    The tent on Unit 1 and the plumbing on Unit 2's opening must catch and filter some of the off gassing, right? Or is it all for show to hide what is going on from prying eyes? You know Unit 3 vents to air because they can only observe the steam rising from it and can't do anything about it.

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/09/11-m3-of-nitrogen-gas-discharged-from-reactor1-and-2-every-hour/#comment-1228644

  • We Not They Finally

    "SHOULD the problem become drawn out"?? Where have they been living? Mars?

  • We Not They Finally

    When the psychopaths all over the world who have destroyed and are destroying the idyllic future that might have been ours will turn it into unending hell…..One thing that seems to be sure those who tread on this beautiful planet and are turning it into radioactive dust will never stop paying for their acts…