AP: 5.6 quake rattles Japan near Fukushima site

Published: July 7th, 2011 at 4:14 pm ET
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5.6 quake rattles Japan near Fukushima site, AP, July 7, 2011:

An earthquake registering 5.6 shook the Pacific off Honshu, Japan, the U.S. Geological Survey said Thursday. That is the area of northeast Japan ravaged by a March 11 quake and tsunami that knocked out power at the Fukushima nuclear plant. [...]

Published: July 7th, 2011 at 4:14 pm ET
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80 comments to AP: 5.6 quake rattles Japan near Fukushima site

  • jump-ball

    Right on moon perigee.


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  • CB CB

    Reaallly? One look at the Quake map makes anyone an expert, theres been alot of quakes, there be alot more. I predict a 2 magnitude EQ in the next few days somewhere in the ring of fire.http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/


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  • odylan

    I’ll put this up again:
    http://www.japanquakemap.com/dailyEnergy
    - the red line is going a bit haywire at the moment – stopping and starting – I wouldn’t be surprised of there was a 7.0 sometime soon – the amount tension it seems to show -


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    • bluerthanblu bluerthanblu

      Interesting catch! The little punches of hi/low energy expenditure, especially in quakes in a similar area or geologic feature might indicate a location. If the hi/low energy of quakes are dispersed all over Honshu, down to Kagoshima, then the ‘bursts’ might show only that there is an increase in settling or possibly a new disturbance. Clearly the energy expended in all previous quakes on the graph were decreasing until Jun 8. Hmm.

      Quick, figure out the location of the hi/low energy bursts/quakes, and you might know the location (LOL)! Thanks for pointing out this feature in J-Quake Map that I was unaware of.


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  • Dr Thorndyke

    Phoenix downtown office building today:

    Almost 10-15 cpm above averages that have been stable for over a month (as long as I hve monitored them). Usually (like the last 2 months) the office ranges 42-47 cpm – today it is ranging 57-60cpm with regular spikes to 90cpm!

    F’n Fukushima then Los Alamos fire plus the $htty dust storm two days ago have me seeing the largest, most unequivocal spike in my average readings ever at the office!

    If the lying scumbags in our EPA/industry-captured-kleptocracy actually cared about our protection they would be encouraging everyone to wear some kind of particulate mask here.

    I feel extremely betrayed that I have to monitor this situation myself. I’m wearing a mask today and I don’t give a F! what anybody thinks!

    Sorry for implied expletives.


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    • CB CB

      Where’s the dignity and work ethics in the EPA. Scum


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    • Mica

      Wow! That’s a huge jump.

      My sister is leaving for NM in a week to visit family. I’m going to lend her my geiger counter – just for curiosity’s sake. We really are on our own re: testing and monitoring our surroundings. Stay safe!


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    • alasanon

      Yes, they are so out of line in the Public Health system!! I live near D.C. and personally know that there are 100s of staff making millions in the Public Health arena, yet not a one advises the public about radiation during a nuclear disaster???!! It makes me furious because we had to take endless planning and advisements re: swine flu last year–what a joke! The CDC–what exactly is their mandate??—Prevention and control of disease!!…Yet nothing?!…I think they are still obsessed with the flu. Now they call me to survey vaccinations in my family. Beyond weird. Talk about SOLD OUT!!

      I feel like I’ve had to be my own doctor or nuclear physicist on this…


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      • alasanon

        Think about all the pregnant mothers and babies in the wake of this with no warnings whatsoever… It’s inexcusable. (shudder)


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      • bluerthanblu bluerthanblu

        I think the CDC are more interested in what vaccines they can foist on unsuspecting, scared people. My parents used to get flu vaccines until the vaccines started making them sick. The fact that flu vaccines are often not a match for a new mutation doesn’t seem to bother them one little bit. They are recommended to seniors, who have more health issues and less immunity. What used to be public ‘protection’ agencies have turned into public ‘placation’ agencies when new bugs gain potential to threaten the infrastructure in a hurry. If it’s some slow, lingering, radiation illness that is difficult to diagnose and for which there are mostly non-pharmaceutical therapies, the EPA washes it’s hands of any responsibility to tell the public anything except that the numbers are ‘not significant,’ never mind bio-accumulation or in what time frame they are talking about. They assume short attention spans, I guess. We will not forget and we will monitor despite EPA’s false data reports, albeit for their eyes only.

        When bureaucracy turns science and agencies for the public into prime PR opportunities and lies to placate public interest and needs, look out. Ever see the old movie ‘Brazil’? That movie haunts me to this day as I see selfish, bureaucratic officials turn to rigid rules that views citizens as subordinates, either as passive slaves or treacherous misfits.

        I can’t believe they are actually surveying you for your vaccination compliance. It’s none of their damn business about your personal health records. Something’s not right here. Don’t you have HIPPA laws in DC?


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        • jump-ball

          Some of us were unfortunate enough to have accepted the 1976 swine flu shot, and then made sicker than ever, and fortunate enough to have refused all subsequent government-md-druggist sponsored flu shot promotions.

          The history of mercury-laced flu injection illness, autism and other correlations will be one of the next sad and tragic chapters in the sordid history of the manipulative FDA and other self-serving u.s. agency cabals.


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    • Dr Thorndyke

      Ok so I will walk back some of my claims about that sustained increase – allow me to explain.

      I use a device called a RadEye B20 which is a Gieger-Muller tube. It detects Gamma, Beta, and Alpha radiation. I have another devic ethat just detects Gamma (I used this more to eliminate gamma as the source of radiation when I get a spike/increased average on the B20)

      Additionally, I keep the working end of the B20 covered in a plastic sandwhich bag. This is to eliminate Alpha radiation as being the culprit of increased spikes/averages (Alpha is blocked by mere paper)and keep the GM tube free of contamination.

      Every once in a while I will get a “particle” stuck to the sandwich bag which results in what appears to be a sustained, increased average. The way to check for contamination is to replace the the plastic baggie and observed whether the average reverts back to normal. I replaced two baggies already today just to confirm my increase in averages wasn’t due to contamination on the baggie/shield.

      However that last time I change the baggie about 20 mins ago I realized that the contamination might be dust located near where I place the device. Shure enough a dust wipedown followed by a new average operation has the average back within normal levels at about 44cpm.

      I will allow it to average for another two hours and report back in. Sorry to raise fears unecessarily. There are a lot of variables that go into monitoring and I failed to control for contamination at “placement”. I always place the B20 at the same location but of course new things can fall on that location.

      Another thing to remember is that this contamination can be a Radon progeny.

      I just wanted avoid getting anybody worried (who lives in the valley) unneccesarily. I will post back in at the EOD to confirm the average after cleaning the location.


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      • if people inhale this contamination that you dusted away they are in trouble…


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        • Dr Thorndyke

          If it’s radon progeny we ALL inahle it often – hence the warnings about radon.


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          • Darth

            It would be interesting if Arnie Gundersen @ Fairwinds.com would use his mass spectrometer on an air filter from your car or of the dust sample. Could you contact him?

            All kinds of ionizing radiation that gets lofted in that dust bowl storm you had recently – from all the above ground nuclear testing.


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          • jump-ball

            I still maintain that auto, AC and HEPA filters, and various vehicle tires taken out of service in Feb. pre-Fuku and keep indoors away from rain and atmosphere, should be compared to identical filters and tires used post-fuku in the newly contaminated atmosphere and rain-contaminated roads and ground.

            My WAG: Results will be surprising.


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      • bluerthanblu bluerthanblu

        If you don’t mind my asking, how far off the ground do you have the monitor? So, after two hours of averaging background contamination, you monitor the air for increasing numbers of beta and gamma, then minus the background radiation figure? After doing this, have you ever taken the baggy off for a minute, to see if you have an immediate increase due to alpha, or is that likely to cause irreparable damage to the instrument?

        The good news with personal testing is that everyone with monitors will be prepared for a huge release in future. They won’t need EPA’s public mouth organ to talk about equipment status instead of reading the damn numbers out, as is.

        Anyone with N. SF Bay numbers? Shout ‘em out, please.


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      • Dr Thorndyke

        Just leaving the office.

        4 hour 51 min average: 45cpm
        Highest spike: 88.2cpm

        All looks to be very normal (according to my obersvations over the last 2 months)

        Sorry for the false alarm on sustained background increase – my bad.


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        • jump-ball

          My guess is that recorded 100% spikes in your location, as well as similiar jumps in westernmost Kauai and west LA, and other areas, will eventually be shown to be anything but ‘normal’.


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    • May I post your comment on my blog?

      I’ve been tracking the epa radnet for Phoenix and levels were low a few days back because the jet stream moved north; that is, they were low until the dust storm.

      My guess is that the dust storm has stirred up radioactive alpha particles that are now suspended in the air.

      epa radnet for Phoenix has been “under review” yesterday and today–which usually means “too high to report”

      I would like to post your data…


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      • Dr Thorndyke

        Majia … it’s looking more like there is nothing to report. I am looking at a 90min average that is in line with historical averages – it’s 45cpm on the dot. As you can imagine I’m releived by that. My concern was that background radiation had incresed markely (10-15cpm) but it appears instead there was contamination in the location wher I place the device.

        It’s notable that I rest my detector up against my computer monitors. Perhaps this is not the best idea but it affords me a constant view of the fluctuating values. Unfortuntely, computer monitors and TV’s are notrious for attracting radioactive dust. Most of the time it is suspected and easily rationalzed these dust particles are Radon progeny (aka daughters) – or part of the radon decay cahin process.

        So the most I can tell you is that the loction where I place my detector was contminated with something that gave off higher readings (avg 60 cpm and spike to 90cpm). After cleaning the location the averages at that location returned to normal.

        Unfortunatley, I can’t tell you what the contamination was composed of. It could be that it was simply something we get all the time (radon progeny) and perfectly natural – it could be otherwise. Without lab analysis (spectroscopy) there is no way to know.

        But it was NOT the sustained elevation of background radiation levels which was was what I was most alarmed about before I cleand the lcation where I do the readings.


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        • Based on what Gunderson has explained, I fear “hot particles” that are not densely packed in the air, but slow to decay.

          According to Gunderson, these hot particles cannot be detected easily with radiation detectors because they are not likely to be found here, at least, in high enough concentrations.

          However, they are still very dangerous if inhaled…


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          • Dr Thorndyke

            Yes I am concerned about the same. I HAVE two several “hot” spikes in the house in the last day (130 ,155cpm). The frustring aspect is that while my detector pickusp op the activity it
            does not identify the source. A moderator on list I am on for gieger counter enthusiasts has explained before that these spikes cane be explained first by nature then by man made contamination. Once you have isolated a radioactive particle you must perform spectroscopy to identify that partcle before you can say it is naturally occuring or man-made. Very few radiation detectors perfrom spectroscopy and the ones that do are rally expensive and very hard to come by.


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          • Probably the only way of determining whether these spikes are unusal using geiger counters would be to have had a “pre-3/11″ average across several months that included the spikes and then compare pre-and-post averages.

            We do know from the EPAs filter analysis that hot particles were detected in the US

            What we don’t know is how widely they were dispersed

            When I spoke to the state’s radiological lab director he said that Phoenix was hit very hard by Chernobyl and Fukushima compared to many areas of the US because of the jet stream’s currents.

            we often get this little curl in AZ that meanders off the main current


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  • TraderGreg

    Your tax dollars at work :-(
    No hope, and change for worse.


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  • markww markww

    Hey the folks over in Phoenix what direction did that dust could take I am over in Texas my Geiger counter is normal background and at 8-10 counts per minute figure the dust in the atmosphere is headed this a way


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    • Dr Thorndyke

      Came from the SE headed to the NE. We had highly visible particulates yesterday. With about half the of that today (much farther visibility). The sky here has been very dirty for a month with the fires and such. Yesterday it was filthy dirty today that filth appears to be abating somewhat.


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  • StillJill StillJill

    yes alasanon, I shudder at the thought of the moms to be too! I posted on the discussion thread just now, of another infant mortality account from my northern Cali location! :-(


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    • alasanon

      It would not be that hard to issue some basic OB/GYN warnings, public service announcements, etc. that at least put concientious families on high alert! I think that would be the minimum public health duty at this time…It’s particularly disgusting if you are aware of the huge budgets and resources allocated in D.C…The operations on flu and terrorism preparedness were staggering and comprehensive. How about showing 10% of that during 3 nuclear meltdowns and domestic threats??!!… So bizzare and sad…


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      • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

        The failure to do anything in regard to radiation exposure by D.C. is deliberate. They know people would panic if they knew just how much they have already been exposed to. I am certain we were all “nuked” following the meltdowns.

        I just don’t see how any of our elected representatives think they can be reelected when they have kept their mouths shut tight through all this. They deserve to be booted out at the earliest possible moment.

        I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes when people finally wake up to the fact that their children were exposed and their government was silent, even though they knew.


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        • theypoisonus

          Agreed, their complete negligance would be crystal clear and open the door for mass lawsuits.

          They aren’t going to do squat at this point, but continue to issue the same drivel.

          It’s every man/woman/child/animal etc. for themselves.

          We need Anderson Cooper(or any figure in that position ) in a face mask , carrying a geiger counter all over the country at this point to get through to the totally clueless.
          Even then, they would not realize it has been going on for months now.

          Don’t forget, the dummed-down public don’t have a clue. We are a small minority :(


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          • sickputer2 sickputer2

            theypoisonus typed these pixels of light:
            “We need Anderson Cooper(or any figure in that position ) in a face mask , carrying a geiger counter all over the country at this point to get through to the totally clueless.”

            You want be getting Anderson back anytime soon…he was terrified after Reactor 3 blew (see video below to see how spooked he was) and then he made a bad mistake of flying out of Tokyo soon afterward and plowed right through the plume of Reactor 3 as it wafted across the Pacific. He’s probably a dead man walking…along with his plane mate Sanjay Gupta.

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/14/anderson-cooper-in-japan-should-i-get-out_n_835251.html


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          • VanneV anne

            This is in reply to sickputer2. It was very sad watching this video with Anderson Cooper because we now know that #1 and #3 had already had a full meltdown at that time, and that other commentator was just talking complete lies.


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  • irradiated californian

    after watching the time lapsed videos of the event from the morning in fukushima, it is becoming all too clear that these mass steam releases are controlled by tepco, and are not uncontrolled happenings. it is all too obvious, they start once it becomes night, and as soon as the sun comes up it stops almost completely. i hope somebody else catches on to this.


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    • ocifferdave

      Soon enough it will be Fall/Winter and we will see more clearly the variant amounts of steam by day vs night.


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    • moonkai

      That is very possible … Regardless though, this is nasty stuff released in the air! Not cool.


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    • VanneV anne

      You might want to view videos by a nuclear expert:
      http://fairewinds.com/updates
      and
      http://fairewinds.com
      The releases are not controlled, but merely much more visible at night. The releases are continuous and very radioactive. If you watch the Arnie Gundersen videos he can explain why this is so. Also, reactor #2 is also not safe. Just because the building is there doesn’t mean that there isn’t still prompt criticallity there. The nuclear expert, Arnie Gundersen, knows much more than someone call tell from their own observations who is not a nuclear expert.


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  • DarylAnn

    Does anyone know how I can find out the radiation readings for dairy products and fresh veggies grown in upstate New York?

    Any info would be appreciated!

    I too am shocked at the complete lack of media coverage regarding this disaster – it’s stunning actually! Personally I don’t think that it will ever be reported unless people stand up and demand answers. Sorry to say I don’t see that happening whatsoever as most Americans are consumed with their economic reality or focused heavily on non-issues & drama. What a shame!


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    • arclight arclight

      theres various advice strewn around the sight…avoid berries mushrooms seaweed and there this eu directive from april listing things to watch out for! also on the sight is a 21st centry cleaning lady/man/person called noah who gives advice on cleaning food and stuff…happy surfing! heres the link to the report repost
      Radiation risks from Fukushima ‘no longer negligible’ http://www.euractiv.com/en/health/radiation-risks-fukushima-longer-negligible-news-503947
      peace


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      • odiez1 odiez1

        That report is from April 11, so it’s pretty old now. BUT the last lines are still applicable I believe…

        “If more fires are reported or if the operators are forced to release more steam in order to prevent hydrogen explosions, new massive waste releases will occur, the institute warned.”
        That’s all happened since then.. :(


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      • CB CB

        I can see this snowballing from here. I hope sheeple of the world care that the power industry basically stabbed there unborn children, mothers, fathers, and friends, and do there part in bringing this world back from the brink of annihilation.


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  • CB CB

    BLDG 4 looks very differnt than a few days ago. Maybe it’s decaying the way BLDG 3 has.


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    • bluerthanblu bluerthanblu

      I saw Bldg 4 blowing out a wad late Jun 4-5th and it was NOT STEAM (I know, don’t go there..). How long can their 2nd floor bracing last in that environment? All it would take is a more shallow earthquake on land near the plant. Here’s hoping that corium will not destabilize the ground under the plant. Feels like I should have a drink in my hand when I say this! Might not be a good clincher.


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  • fuckyoushima

    st louis rainwater.

    plastic bag with paper towel at bottom, saran wrapped terra mks-05 (black) atop paper towel; held at waist height above ground

    dry – .08usv/hr

    wet (10 min old rainfall) – .12usv/hr (max@5min)

    inspector 4 handheld in the mail.

    it does appear that the rainwater is radioactive. i can check car later tonight to try and estimate half life. this was my first rain test.

    more to follow.


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    • odiez1 odiez1

      Can you hang on to some of your samples for a week and run the tests again? Without a spectral analysis there’s no way to tell what the isotopes are, but if it’s reading less in a week maybe it’s I-131.. Who knows..


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  • VanneV anne

    Here’s some WONDERFUL news!
    Nuclear industry suffers major defeat in Iowa: Reactors rejected in Iowa
    “After the disaster in Fukushima, Friends of the Earth activists in Iowa sprung into action, compelling the Iowa legislature to reject a proposed hike in electricity rates to fund new nuclear reactors. This win for the public puts the nuclear industry further on the ropes nationall”
    http://www.foe.org/nuclear-industry-suffers-major-defeat-iowa


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    • aldo aldo

      Yay! When people learn how much they’ve subsidized the nuclear industry then public investment in alternatives starts to make a whole lot of sense.


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  • VanneV anne

    More GOOD news:
    III. Another possibly fatal blow is being struck against the global nuclear power industry.
    NEWS BRIEF: “Mock attackers ‘strike’ 24 nuclear plants, ‘breach’ two”, CNN News, June 29, 2011
    “Mock commandos who staged attacks on 24 nuclear power plants in pre-announced drills last year were able to “damage” or “destroy” critical targets at two of the plants, according to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission … Each year, about a fourth of the nation’s 104 commercial nuclear power plants undergo security tests, which involve several weeks of security inspections and table-top exercises that probe for holes in security, followed by three consecutive nights of “force-on-force” assaults. The assaults are pre-announced to avoid confusion with real-world events, and participants — in a high-stakes game of laser tag — attack plant defenses in an effort to “destroy” critical buildings or equipment.”
    When you couple this news with daily reports of nuclear contamination from Japan’s cripple plants and the possible contamination from American nuclear plants being flooded in the heartland region, you have real trouble brewing! Someday politicians in countries all over the world are going to rise up to demand that nuclear power plants be decommissioned and plants using other types of fuel take their place — just as Germany is already doing!
    “Green Earth” economics is on the horizon and will be aided greatly by this sudden trouble in the nuclear power industry!
    http://www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/newsalert.htm
    http://articles.cnn.com/2011-06-29/us/nuclear.plants.security_1_nrc-nuclear-power-plants-nuclear-fuel-facility?_s=PM:US


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Washington State Environmen­tal Organizati­on Shows EPA Testing Insufficie­nt And Incorrect
    http://news.lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/2011/07/washington-state-environmental.html


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    • Whoopie LINK POST:
      Radiation Levels in Northwest Rain Were Up to 131 Times Drinking Water Standards Following Fukushima, Japan nuclear reactor explosions
      For Info: For release: July 7, 2011
      Gerry Pollet, JD, Exec. Director
      Heart of America Northwest “The public’s voice for Hanford Cleanup”
      http://www.hoanw.org (206)382-1014 / (206)819-9015 cell
      Radiation Levels in Rain in WA and OR were high enough to be of concern despite news reports and officials stating that levels were “below any level of public health concern.” Olympia rainwater had Iodine 131 at levels 41 times the federal Drinking Water Standard, Portland over 28 times the standard.
      Boise, ID levels reached 131 times the Drinking Water Standard – indicating higher levels fell in Oregon and Washington.
      Analysis by Heart of America Northwest:
      Radiation levels in rainwater collected in Portland, OR on March 25, 2011 were 86.8 pCi/L for Iodine 131 (I131), amongst the highest recorded in the US after Fukushima. Rain in Olympia had even higher levels of radioactive Iodine. The Portland result was not posted by EPA until April 4.
      The maximum level of Iodine 131in rain in Olympia, WA was 125 pCi/L on March 24, which was not posted by EPA until April 4.
      Highest levels in rainwater in California were collected March 22, 2011 in Richmond, CA with levels of 138 pCi/L.
      The Drinking Water Standard is just 3 pCi/L (picoCuries per Liter, which is a very small measurement). Thus, people drinking undiluted rainwater n Portland would have consumed and been exposed to Iodine 131 at levels nearly 30 times the DWS, and 41 times the standard in Olympia. There are no results for Seattle or Bellingham areas. The DWS is set at a level based on drinking 2L/day resulting in a 4 mrem per year dose, which is a 1 in 10,000 lifetime risk of fatal cancer in adults, if consumed daily over 30 years. Children are 3 to 10 times more susceptible to develop cancer from the same does, especially because Iodine concentrates in young thyroids. Of course, Iodine 131 may cause non-cancerous health conditions.
      If the rain in Richmond, CA had high levels on March 22, one might expect that EPA would have been testing the same day or as close as possible at Pacific Northwest locations that day. However, locations only test once a week or once a month without apparent coordination related to the event, e.g., without apparent increased testing based on weather patterns from Japan and daily events, such as explosions at Fukushima.
      The highest levels of Iodine 131 in rain were collected in Boise, Idaho on March 27 and March 22, 2011 with levels of 390 and 242, respectively.
      A high level reported by EPA was 150 pCi/L collected in Jacksonville, FL on March 31. This shows how far and wide the contamination can, and did, spread. It also reveals that claims and news reports were false in presenting that the 8 day half-life of Iodine 131 (half of the radiation remains) meant that contamination would not reach across the US. If levels of 150 were in rain in Jacksonville, the levels were much higher days earlier on the West Coast.
      If levels of 390 reached Boise, 130 times the Drinking Water Standard, the same clouds likely dropped precipitation at levels 50% higher in Oregon and Washington before reaching Boise.
      There were no samples collected and reported in Oregon and WA in the days immediately prior to the Boise collection of a sample with 242 pCi/L on March 22nd. Portland had only two precipitation samples reported during this entire period, the second on April 20, with all results “non-detects”. These results were not posted by EPA until May 24.
      While there are numerous results collected at Oak Ridge, home of USDOE’s Oak Ridge National Lab, it appears that USDOE’s Hanford site and Pacific NW National Lab were not part of EPA’s collection program – despite claims of extensive radiological monitoring at Hanford.
      EPA refuses to make public who is collecting data samples for its RadNet program, preventing independent review of accuracy and raising concern that the choices as to sampling may be biased, and leaving numerous questions such as why some collection stations were only collecting monthly even at the height of the crisis (e.g., Portland).
      EPA’s announcement that it was returning to “routine” sampling implied that there was across the board increased sampling from mid-March to May3, 2011. However, a review of the posted sampling results show many locations, such as Portland, OR, did not increase precipitation sampling from once a month during the crisis.
      EPA’s May 3 Statement:
      “After a thorough data review showing declining radiation levels related to the Japanese nuclear incident, EPA has returned to the routine RadNet sampling and analysis process for precipitation, drinking water and milk.
      “As always, EPA’s RadNet system of more than 100 stationary monitors will continue to provide EPA scientists near-real-time data on the slightest fluctuations in background radiation levels….
      “It is important to note that all of the radiation levels detected by RadNet monitors and sampling have been very low, are well below any level of public health concern, and continue to decrease over time. EPA continues to work with federal partners to monitor the situation in Japan and stands prepared to accelerate radiation sampling and analysis if the need arises. Data will continue to be available on EPA’s public website.”
      Heart of America Northwest’s review shows that EPA’s claim of “near real-time data” is belied by EPA taking a week to post data. In the event of another explosion releasing radioactive particles and gases, the serious week long gap in time between collection of results and posting could prevent a proper public health advisory and response. By taking a week to post results, the public is deprived of the ability to make its own choices in time to make a difference.
      All data from EPA: http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-sampling-data.html


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      • Whoopie Whoopie

        Thank you xdrfox
        WHAT NOW? WHAT THE FUCK NOW. Myself, I feel sick and ill – mentally and physically. Something is wrong and it’s HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. I see it in ever aspect of MY LIFE, be it “bites” suddenly appearing on my skin to the implications of this MONSTER we call FUKUSHIMA.

        To say I’m not scared would be foolish. I have a new 1st Granddaughter who rocks my world. What’s coming for HER? (btw i am 60 plus – she’s my 1st granddaughter God damn it!!) EXCITED….but oh so worried. So worried, I took the day off….from ALL THIS SHIT.
        It never gets better…always worse. The Japanese people are my greatest concern. What are they to do now? What about their Children? What about LIFE as ANYBODY knows it?
        It’ll be decades and decades of suffering and DEATH.
        Go ahead…raze me for speaking the truth. THE IMPLICATIONS are HORRIFYING.


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        • Whoopie, I know, and many here feel your exact scare, pain and worries, but we must keep our heads and do what we can because others may need us !


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          • Whoopie Whoopie

            I know xdfox. You and all the others have been outstanding. I’m just FUCKING DEPRESSED. Think I’ll go to a doctor I “dont have” and ask for PILLS to fix me. Riiight. Never have had pills in my entire life. I HATE WHAT FUKUSALL HAS BROUGHT INTO OUR LIFES!
            Or do I? without this crisis, would we NOT BE FIGHTING NUCELAR TODAY? No WE WOULDN’T!! Fight on! We MUST!!


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          • A bit more sleep then normal will go a long way, Eat well, Make sure to keep your health up, you are the “Matriarch” !


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          • jump-ball

            Dr F: Remember my earlier updated R.K. quote, and your responce:

            “If you can keep your head about you, while everyone else is losing theirs, maybe you haven’t heard the news.”

            ‘Keeping our heads’ and ‘doing what we can’ sounds to me very tepco and very Japanese patriarcal obedience: rather, it may now or soon will be time for Japanese to ‘keep their heads’ and ‘do what they can do’ – by voting with their feet and evacuating.


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          • The writing was on the wall before this happened only think tanks could not imagine so many at once they say, but did not GE and the Nuclear Licensing committee, “Japan”, “seaside”, “earthquakes”, “tsunami’s” ???

            Not stupid, just gready $$$
            minus Safty for $$$


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          • We are supposed to have government’s to protect us from greed as this and safeguards the world people, but the Corporate lobbiest and moneys are to entrench in the pockets of the people who swore to protect us !


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        • Yes’m, my granddaughters are 12, 10, and 8. Fabulou skids, but maybe I am prejudiced in their favor! The 12 yr old near PDX the other 2 in Georgia. The parents regard me as a bit cuckoo on this. :(


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      • WorseThanChernobyl

        I find it odd that the Hanford area in WA has no radiation testing. I live about 8 miles from Hanford and about 11 miles from the Energy Northwest plant. I am very curious to know what the numbers are around here. I have been getting these dizzy spells, where I almost pass out when I stand up and feel like something is squeezing my head. I don’t know what is causing it, but it is strange and unsettling. I am taking sups and have been taking Lugols iodine since even before Fukushima. Hopefully, it is just a sign I need to drink more water and not something else.


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    • CB CB

      It’s getting out finally!


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    • VanneV anne

      Thanks Whoopie. This is an important voice. I quoted some from the article:
      “People like myself and a lot of the atomic energy scientists in the late fifties deserve Nuremberg trials. At Nuremberg we said those who participate in human experimentation are committing a crime. Scientists like myself who said in 1957, “Maybe Linus Pauling is right about radiation causing cancer, but we don’t really know, and therefore we shouldn’t stop progress,” were saying in essence that it’s all right to experiment. Since we don’t know, let’s go ahead. So we were experimenting on humans, weren’t we? But once you know that your nuclear power plants are going to release radioactivity and kill a certain number of people, you are no longer committing the crime of experimentation–you are committing a higher crime. Scientists who support these nuclear plants–knowing the effects of radiation–don’t deserve trials for experimentation; they deserve trials for murder. . . .”

      “Licensing a nuclear power plant is in my view, licensing random premeditated murder. First of all, when you license a plant, you know what you’re doing–so it’s premeditated. You can’t say, “I didn’t know.” Second, the evidence on radiation-producing cancer is beyond doubt. I’ve worked fifteen years on it [as of 1982], and so have many others. It is not a question any more: radiation produces cancer, and the evidence is good all the way down to the lowest doses.”"

      http://www.ratical.org/radiation/inetSeries/nwJWG.html


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      • Steven Steven

        IMO this gentleman has redeemed himself by making that statement. It might seem a small thing considering his part in such a huge crime, but his words are timely, courageous, and could make a real difference.


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  • pg

    How is 52 miles away near Fukushima?


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    • VanneV anne

      USGS gives distance from Fukushima City, not from Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant. From the power plant, the earthquake is 8.4 miles.


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      • pg

        In that case, one cannot ignore that it was also very close to Daini, which is only 7 miles away from Diatchi. It is basically common sense to say that every EQ those plants are dealt, the worse they become. For example, Daiichi #4 having a list, can only become weaker. Containment, chambers weaker, 5 & 6 more cracks for water to come in, and as a whole, Japan sinking lower and lover into the sea. Let me ask this, Where are the live streaming cams for Daini and Oganawa?? I’m sure we will see some activity there as well and wouldn’t be surprised to know one plant at each facility is releasing radiation i.e. enhancing the inevitable; “nuclear reactor domino effect”.


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  • I measure about 23 miles away (from Fukushima to where the latest earthquake was).

    The shaking was pretty substantial
    [replay video]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwhnxeZM8xQ


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    • VanneV anne

      Pu239, if you stick to math, the earthquake was 1.2 miles from the center of Fukushima Daiichi.


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      • VanneV anne

        I use two similar triangles. The first was based on the coordinates of the earthquake, the coordinates of Fukushima City, and the distance given by usgs of 51 miles. Then the second triangle was based on the earthquake coordinates and the coordinates of Fukushima Daiichi. Then I used the proportion that the hypotenuse of triangle 1 divided by 51 miles equals the hypoteneuse of trangle 2 divided by the distance to Fukushima Daiichi.0


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      • VanneV anne

        I forgot to use a square root when figuring the hypoteneuse. The answer should be 7.8 miles.


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        • VanneV anne

          I used a calculator on the internet. It is 8.4 miles. There is also a map if you type in the occrdinates:
          Earthquake distance from Fukushima Daiichi and Map
          http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong.html
          Enter the co-ordinates into the text boxes to try out the calculations. A variety of formats are accepted, principally:

          Point 1: 37.116N , 140.973E
          Point 2: 37.233N , 141.015E
          Distance: 13.53 km
          Initial bearing: 015°56′58″
          Final bearing: 015°58′29″
          Midpoint: 37°10′28″N, 140°59′38″E

          13.53 km = 8.407 miles


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  • jump-ball

    “Killing Our Own” below is the most concise primer on radioactivity, using understandable plain english, without techno-babble diversion, that I have seen in 4 months:

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/oahurad.php


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