AP reporter after going to Fukushima: “There are really people getting sick… the fear keeps building” — “It’s probably the biggest story of my life… with AP for more than 20 years” — “I don’t want to sound alarmist or scare anybody, but this is real” (AUDIO)

Published: June 8th, 2014 at 6:36 pm ET
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KQED, June 7, 2014:

Excerpts from Interview with Yuri Kageyama, AP reporter

  • 3:00 in — People are worried about getting sick, and there are really people getting sick, including thyroid cancer, which is what happened after Chernobyl. But there’s no direct proof that this is from Fukushima, but we may never know because it is very difficult to link individual sicknesses with whatever caused that sickness. So the fear keeps building, the distrust keeps building, and the people are still there living every day with that uncertainty.
  • 5:30 in — I wish there were more interest because the people of Fukushima are extremely worried about being forgotten. It’s probably the biggest story of my life. I’ve been with AP for more than 20 years. And I think it’s up to the reporters to make sure this is important story is not forgotten.
  • 6:00 in — I don’t want to sound alarmist or scare anybody, but this is real.
  • 6:30 in — I think that maybe I should worry more, because when I did go to this family for a recent a story visiting their home in the no go zone, because they were going I went, my photographer and I also went, to that no go zone and we wore gear just like they did. We just went the same way they did, but I didn’t think of that, I didn’t question that because these are the people I was covering.

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224 comments to AP reporter after going to Fukushima: “There are really people getting sick… the fear keeps building” — “It’s probably the biggest story of my life… with AP for more than 20 years” — “I don’t want to sound alarmist or scare anybody, but this is real” (AUDIO)

  • davidh7426 davidh7426

    I truly hope those nuclear apologists, shills and collaborators live long enough to realise the error of their ways. To know just what it is they've been a party too, and to see the harm and damage they've done this world and the life that exists upon it.

    • OldFool

      Many people are complaining that Yuri-chan was too vague. However, even for what she said, we can be assured that TEPCO and the Japanese Government will put massive pressure on AP to move her office into a broom closet and give her new assignments deep in Africa in the most especially horrible countries. If this does not happen, then TEPCO can easily tell their Yakuza buddies that she is a trouble-maker. I doubt we will ever hear from her again. If you think this is far-fetched, remember that Tohoku fellow back in 2011 who was publishing his Geiger counter readings. He was soon found dead in a park with a plastic bag over his head, and the police instantly declared it was a suicide that did not need any investigation.

      • Kashiko Kashiko

        OldFool. Yes I remember that.. it was the thing that really got me worried about this whole affair.

        • Kashiko Kashiko

          Sorry..really got me worried at the start of this whole affair

          • PaciFistic PaciFistic

            …..Yuri Kageyama is an MSM writer, but as she said — and on the record — "it's probably the biggest story of my life."

            I don't recall her articles as being particularly emotive, but with Fukushima we might see something different. We need to give her some slack and see what she does with it. She might try to do it in a way that upsets TEPCO/govt as little as possible while getting the story out. No doubt her effort will be found lacking in some way. If it's harmful of the truth, she'll hear about it. This chance might be the biggest test of her skill (and character).

            My own take is there is significance to the fact that she is there; what that is would be hard to say, and fate often gives events a twist.

            • bo bo

              Sorry Pacifistic….I disagree now completely. I still had reserved some hope up until yesterday that this journalist just might have something in her – along the lines of what you state above – but I now fully believe she lives in la-la land, where the Olympics is an exciting event to look forward to, sushi is still an option on the menu, and Ginza is still a groovy city, dancing and shopping to Pharrel Williams' Happy Song.

              As an AP reporter living in Japan there was no way she was not aware of the Fukushima 'Happy Song' dancing video when she tweeted yesterday about how she heard that song playing in Ginza and thought that was so cool.

              Regardless of if it was sheer ignorance or tacit approval of the Fukushima version of the song (hopefully it wasn't the latter) – in comparison to other activists in Japan who were tweeting and discussing in the past few days about how disgusted they were to see the 'Fukushima Happy Song' – Ms. Kageyama's endorsement stands out as being completely out of place and insensitive, if not intentionally evil.

              Compared to the army of tireless unpaid bloggers and journalists in Japan that I have come to admire and respect – paid journalists like her and Hiroko Tabuchi are an embarrassment to Japanese people's intelligence – IMHO.

              the Happy Song really pushed this issue over the edge for me 🙁

              • bo bo

                BTW – If anybody missed GQ's post today of the Fukushima Happy Song here it is

                http://rt.com/news/164748-fukushima-happy-pharrell-williams/

              • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                …..it's interesting that until yesterday you "still had reserved some hope."

                As I said, fate often gives events a twist….and I see in the rest of your comment the foreshadowing of one. But I should add that fate doesn't always give just a single twist.

                So until I see or hear of her coming article, and who knows, there may be more than a single one just to get the issue out of the way, my feeling is to wait….because we can't tell just yet how the reality of those shattered lives around Fukushima will affect her.

                Of course, I don't expect the truth to be more important than her career.

                And here again is something else I've observed with the Japanese, not all, of course, but with many. There is this great contrast, a kind of disconnect, between what they are seriously concerned with in the main in life and other things on a lighter level. The serious side is taken on with a diligent vengeance, but the lighter is exceptionally trivial, ludicrous, or even infantile. Now you might again say my comment here is racist, but again I'd say it's an observation, prompted by your comment on Kageyama's reaction to the Fukushima Happy Song.

                And one more, to balance things a bit…that Russian-govt-connected site — rt.com — which I said the other day was a govt propaganda arm. I should also add that it's really popular with viewers because it has lots of up-to-date news and useful articles, many of which are more truthful and revealing than that of…

                • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                  ….western media sites.

                  (Not sure what happened; thought I was watching the counter….usually you have to stop with about 30 characters to go, or you get cut off.)

            • No thanks. I think I'm glad I can't listen to that song….and sounds like our reporter girl has an ego that requires two faces. Indeed her character will be obvious within a week or so of her next tweets.

              Seems like a bit player.

      • bo bo

        Hi Old Fool… yes I kind of gave that 'being threatened' scenario a chance too… but in the end, after doing some research – I worry about people like Mako Oshidori or Tesu Kariya ( Oishinbo ) … but not her. Her story about going to the evacuation zone in 'full gear' and talking with 'people' is so vague… I almost wonder if it even happened. A quick scan of her tweets reveals a mindset of a Tokyoite that is in stark contrast with the mindset of other more enlightened activists and journalists on Japanese twitter who are furiously discussing Fukushima, seemingly without rest – like enenews on steroids.

        Ms. Kagenuma tweeted on May 31, 2014
        'Sometimes you jump into the nearest sushi place after returning to Japan. But it's soba today. お蕎麦はやっぱり日本人! ( eating soba means you are Japanese!) Ate it so No Photo.' #LoveJapan

        I don't have exact tweet here but more recently she tweeted how she heard 'Happy Song' playing in Ginza ( Fifth Ave. equivalent of Tokyo) and it was groovy!

        George Orwell once said
        'Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.'

        Mako Oshidori may be a comedienne originally, but she is the true journalist. Ms. Kagenuma is just doing PR. Mako's office and restaurants she frequents were wiretapped recently. I doubt Ms. Kagenuma will have that problem any time soon.

      • We Not They Finally

        Yeah, the article above is pablum. Has to know that the "direct proof" IS the escalating illnesses! It's just sometimes hard to assess people's mentality when they are speaking against pressure not to, or how far they go out on limbs, or whether they really know what is happening and want to report it, but are calculating if they can continue to report at all if they say too much. But that said, it's better to keep ANY reporting in the arena than not.

  • Ontological Ontological

    This shit just got real, 3+ years ago. Wake up folks.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      No kidding Onto…I can't picture myself posting comments here in 5 years asking when is this crap going to end…

      It will never end. Not until all nuclear facilities are shut down and all the money funding the military industrial complex is poured into dealing with all the nuclear waste that will be dangerous and some of those isotopes will be hazardous for 250,000 years.

      • name999 name999

        newsblackout…Really, the nuclear plants and polluting industries have to be shut down right from the
        start for any action to take place in cleaning up this very tragic polluting system that is built to spill.

        Without that we can't begin to take making this possible to rescue. That is the catch…catch 22.

        • We Not They Finally

          It's already way too late. But the nukes HAVE to be shut down anyway. Just imagine what would happen if (let's say) a solar flare hits the grid. Mega melt-throughs everywhere. Then the short timeline we tragically now have, will be all the shorter.

    • Ontological Ontological

      After the skull cancer surgery I had, I doubt I will have a quality life over that 5 years. No one wants to give me that however. Face to face because I have chosen to look good and have a happy attitude I have been told by many as of late that I lie about my cancer because "I don't look sick". People are CRUEL. I can't even get the Rx items and a hospital bed I was prescribed for life still 18 months after. And I am suffering big time for it. Must be they think I photo shopped my ugly scar pics of my neck, and leg up on Facebook. Amazing how small many minds are out here. Tiny insignificance for a mind too many I know in my life have.

  • Sickputer

    We never tried to scare people. The truth is scary on its own.

    Nobody is paying me to give my opinion of the situation in Japan. The ones getting paid are among the majority of the liars who failed to warn the public.

    They will not escape the verdict of history.

  • GQR2

    It is not hard to prove the sickness is from Fukushima radiation at all. That is the first lie. Proof!?! By whose determination? Oh the medical profession? Well its time to take this out of their hands. Their words and ways cannot be trusted. I will take the words of Nurses and teachers,parents the dog catcher is more reliable than the Medical Industry. The people have all the proof they need. These liars need to read the studies and get real. Its real and they need to get real.
    The fear is not the issue. Not the issue at all. They ought to adverse to moving in the hot zone of 3 ongoing Nuclear Melt Downs.

    The reporters do need to keep writing – i can't believe they are sending a bunch of students over there. They better watch out for law suits. Is not a learning experience. as she said – its real and yes she should worry. She is going to sick in about two yrs if that.

  • name999 name999

    GQR2…I do sometimes disagree with you because I think you are a Libertarian and I am clearly on the Left. That you attack Barack Obama and I defend and support him.

    That being said, usually I can't tell the difference here and that is a good thing.

    These ethics violations cannot be ignored…more smoke before the fire…

    • GQR2

      i think libertarians and republicans and democrats,and even the greens though i like that platform,that is the kind of person i am.
      Smoke before fire. No not at all. The ethics violations are will be broken barring some act of Nature.

      ah you are my favorite kind of person 999, i was a on the left and still value my common sense,and humanitarian impulses but the values that were supposed to be there are only there in empty words there is no difference between any of these parties. Its all a game, a show. Ok that being said i never cast a republican vote in my life,and i won't but Obama lied. He lied so bad. It hurts me when otherwise very intelligent well meaning people cannot see beyond their confirmation bias. For example this happened to me during Clinton's reign of terror,my demographic is lead by the dems like sheep with rings in their noses. Fukushima changed that, my personal politics became even more global and i studied and still do. Its hard to have been fooled. I watch C span i am that type. And the show is really putrid.

      • GQR2

        i think all the parties are bunk and i hope you and me can be friends and have good understanding. The president must be criticised i was relentless on Bush, it would be mindless to give Obummer a free pass.

        • PaciFistic PaciFistic

          ……..GQR2….your evolution with politics is interesting, especially that Fukushima changed things for you.

          And by coincidence, which similarly might also involve a lot of others, for Yuri Kageyama, the AP reporter interviewee, Fukushima was a signal event…with AP 20 years, a whole generation, but says "it's probably the biggest story of my life."

          Bush…let's face it, he just was not presidential material, and myself, was never able to take him seriously.

          Obama is a different story altogether. He has to make a lot of bad decisions, as he is a middle roader. Given the nature of the times, it's a wonder he's able to get anything worthwhile accomplished. I still give him a little benefit of the doubt. For people like him, it's damned if you do and damned if you don't.

          Has he ever made a statement on Fukushima? If he hasn't, that's a huge failing! In fact all incumbent politicians have failed on Fukushima.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            Senator: Fukushima Fuel Pool Is a National Security Issue for AMERICA
            Posted on May 6, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog
            “After visiting Fukushima, Senator Ron Wyden warned that the situation was worse than reported … and urged Japan to accept international help to stabilize dangerous spent fuel pools….”
            http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/05/senator-fukushima-fuel-pool-is-a-national-security-issue-for-america.html

            Senator Markey gives shocking statistics on NRC whistle-blower harassment
            http://nuclear-news.net/2014/06/05/senator-markey-gives-shocking-statistics-on-nrc-whistle-blower-harassment/

            “…I have frequently wondered why Representative Ed Markey is such a powerful antinuclear activist. The mystery has not been just trying to understand why he is so actively opposed to nuclear energy, but how he accumulated so much legislative power so early in his career.
            …”
            http://theenergycollective.com/rodadams/66961/ed-markey-lng-and-antinuclear-activity

            Sen. Ed Markey praises pending closure of Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant
            http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/08/sen_ed_markey_praises_pending.html

            • PaciFistic PaciFistic

              ……thanks VanneV, that was very informative…though what I really wanted to say and didn't was "…all incumbent heads of state… ."

            • PaciFistic PaciFistic

              ……btw, VanneV, I imagine you to be a superGemini!

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                I don't know what a superGemini is. I am a Christian, and was born under the sign of Scorpio. But I don't follow astrology or horoscopes.

                • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                  ……there are many Christians who follow/do astrology. In fact, the 3 magi who took their journey to the Holy Land to honour the birth of the Christ child were astronomer-astrologers. But there's nothing wrong with not following astrology. It's probably the right thing for you not to.

                  A superGemini would be one who is up on the latest news and information, and likely works easily and speedily to communicate great amounts of it to large numbers of people, while using all the current electronic & digital devices.

                  If you were born under Scorpio, that means the Sun was in that sign at your birth. However, at the time and place of your birth, the sign of Gemini might have been rising on the eastern horizon, which would make you a Gemini Rising or Ascendant Native with a natural fluency in communication. And with other Gemini factors thrown in, you'd qualify as a superGemini type.

                  To get back on topic, however, the ruling body of Scorpio is Pluto, which often renders Scorpios as people to be reckoned with. I consider Hillary Clinton to be a superScorpio, a very powerful person.

                  Pluto is about power itself, also the power of transmutation and transformation, is connected with atomic energy and radiation, is invisible as the Lord of the Underworld, is very toxic.

                  So interest in Fukushima is right up your alley. Of course, all of this is unsolicited and you don't have to believe any of it.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                    My ascendant is PISCES rising

                    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                      …..you know more than you let on (a good thing). Pisces on the First House cusp, and Sun in Scorpio renders you as a double Water Element Native. Much feeling, even if as undercurrent.

                      Neptune as ruling planet of Pisces is the ocean and fish, sympathy and empathy.

                      Mercury is the communication planet and is very speedy…yours could be in Gemini. It's the ruling planet of that sign.

                      You could well tell me different re. your Mercury (which btw is now retrograding).

                      Sorry, shouldn't be continuing O/T.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      If this is from the hour you are born, I don't have that information. I just made up a time, because I don't believe all that.

                    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                      ….it's from a much much narrower span of time. That time can be discovered if you don't have it (after a lot of work, usually). It's not necessary for you to believe. You are who you are, regardless of your belief! Cheers!

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    golly PacifiFistic, I think you just equated VanneV with Pluto, Hillary Clinton, power itself, atomic energy and radiation,… invisible as the Lord of the Underworld, and very toxic.

                    All under the thread of a reporter saying Fukushima is the biggest story of her life.

                    My feminine intuition says youre…a superAquarius? No wait…a superPisces…ah whatever, my guess couldnt be any further off than yours was of Anne! Since Fukushima, all signs of the zodiac will be horrorscopes.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      TY, Code. horrorscopes indeed. Astrology seems to be the ultimate in labeling.

                    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                      ….my intuition is feminine too…how about that, though I could be a male.

                      Btw. I never guessed about Anne. I only went by what she said. As for the Gemini part, we don't know, and maybe even she doesn't. I only 'imagined,' as a way of speaking.

                      Since Fukushima, we've come to know many things … let's be ready for the final truth. Our own! We may have free will, but it's subject to limitations.

                      In any case, I'm not long for this site. Have outstayed my time.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                    My reading didn't say that about Pluto. Only:

                    Pluto in 5th house
                    You have unusual talents and hobbies.

                    Great creativity and self-expression is possible.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Great creativity and self-expression…now that I can believe. A musician, a scholar, a self repaired cancer survivor! Maybe you werent looking under "superScorpio" which seems to be a new classification…

                    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                      …..VanneV…entire books have been written specifically on Pluto, heavy tomes. Cuz Pluto's the 'heaviest' of the heavies.

                      In order to know you have Pluto in the 5th House, you had to have provided a birth time; otherwise, chart was set up probably for Noon.

                      Yes, great creativity & self-expression are possible for that placement. But as said, Pluto may not actually be there.

                      Anywhere Pluto is placed, there's the possibility of contracting cancer, arising of course from karmic tendency for that, set off by more immediate causes in the near present. If Pluto is in the 6th House, which is the House of Health…doesn't mean you'll get cancer…can be any illness (depending), or someone close to you will be struck. Or you could work in a cancer lab.

                      Many factors are looked at & integrated to get close to the Native's reality.

                      Wherever Pluto's found, matters of that house are asking to be exposed, reformed, transformed, regenerated. So the demand by necessity is heavy.

                      If you ever ever get a notion to have your horoscope done properly, find someone with real expertise, don't be afraid to pay (and they shouldn't ask too much)…the good ones are often very busy. But first ask for a 'rectification' to determine birth time…might take a few tries for this precious data.

                      Your great interest in Fukushima is saying your Pluto is being highlighted at this time.

                      Be careful this is not all projection on your part.

                      The best to you!

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      PaciFistic, I found my birth time on my birth certificate. Pluto isn't in any of my houses. Pluto is in Leo.

                      Anyway, astrology is all nonsense. God is my Creator, not the stars. And Jesus is my teacher and redeemer and I won't give any authority to the stars or to any human, and the angels protect me and the Holy Spirit guides me and my decisions. My dignity and fate are in God's hands and Jesus dwells in my heart. There is no room there for an astrologer or the teachings of astrology. I don't give any credence to any kind of determinism or deterministic thought.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      Fukushima was predicted years before it happened, but not by astrology. It was predicted because it couldn't pass the safety checks, and there were so many scandals in the management. It was rated as the most dangerous nuclear power plant in the world. Leuren Moret published an article in a Japanese newspaper predicting Fukushima, but the nuclear industry didn't listen. Also GE engineers quit because they knew the design would never stand up to any kind of accident. And this happened when the design was first decided on.

                      And yet the US has 40 nuclear power plants with the same design, and they haven't yet decommissioned them. They are all ticking time bombs waiting to go off. And the predictions are made by scientists based on scientific knowledge and scientific experience. But the nuclear industry worships the money they receive and are addicted to blue color and addicted to the power and belief that they have mathematical skills that should be worshiped. And the nuclear industry is also a cult of death.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      My comments on Fukushima has nothing to do with the stars, or the exact time of my birth. I'm not really motivated by interest in Fukushima, but with concern for everyone in the world suffering from nuclear radiation and from the horrible economic and climate problems stemming from use of nuclear technology and nuclear energy. Nuclear energy is destroying the earth and the possibility of life, and good stewards of the earth should be protesting against the nuclear industry in my opinion. I am totally against the nuclear holocaust which is not occurring.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      TYPO: now occurring.
                      comments…have

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      My motivation stems from all the cancer and death in my family (including one of my daughters) which has been bombarded from nuclear bomb testing and from being near and contaminated by the largest nuclear accident in US history at Santa Susanna, which is 240 times worse than TMI, and by all the nuclear accidents and waste accumulating worldwide.

                      People are harmed or helped by actual, real events and people, not by the position of the stars and planets. Pluto isn't even recognized as being a planet anymore.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      Fukushima occurred because nuclear technology is lethal and the plants should never have been built. 40 years of incompetence and scandal and failure to shut down these nuclear plants, added onto previous decades of nuclear insanity. The stars look on blindly impersonal.

                  • Angela_R

                    The wise men were astronomers who followed the 'star'. I gather their information about the birth was gleaned from prophecy/prediction, which is not the same as astrology.

                    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                      ….hi Angela…there's heavy research going now into ancient astrology, and even before this, it was understood astronomers around the time of Christ's birth were also astrologers. Certainly before then they were also; one side went with the other.

                      The source of prophecy/prediction, as I understand, at the more immediate level can vary. Those who prophesy/predict can be full clairvoyants, simply highly psychic, or are prophetic dreamers…so, clairvoyant & psychic vision, dreams, and the final result can be aided by arts such as numerology/astrology, and others. The deep source…well, you know where that is. Prophecy/prediction are the result of various gifts/arts.

                      Three astrologers I know of came very close on 9/11, even closer on the Iraq war. These arts are not always about prophecy/prediction. They are more about helping people troubleshoot troubled circumstances. Not that many practitioners do prediction. Lack of interest; difficult.

                      One somewhat recent prophet was Edgar Cayce, as you know. Who brought forth from an unconscious state. He's said to have read the Bible cover to cover once through for every year of his life. Very devout. From his readings we have what is known as Draconic Astrology, and he provided the details for setting that up.

                      Regarding Japan, he predicted Japan sinking into the sea. Didn't say how far or in how many steps, but from the East Tohoku Quake, that part of Japan was….

                    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                      …..moved 8 feet. It also sank a little putting some places along the northeast coast underwater now at high tide.

                      No one, as far as I know, predicted Fukushima. Though the Sendai region being very quake-prone, it's not surprising an NPP thereabouts would get damaged. Just crazy to put nuke plants anywhere in Japan, …or anywheres on the globe, for that matter…given the penchant of humans for accidents.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      .. 🙂 Very powerful knowledge..

                    • Angela_R

                      Unfortunately there is no reply button PaciFistic next to your post, however hopefully you will see this:
                      My take: we are physical beings and as such are affected by different energies; as such they could be 'mapped,' so in that respect we could be 'plotted.'

                      However, as I understand, the heavens have changed position since the Egyptian period, my sign is no longer what it would have once been.

                      I am mindful that we are given reason and free will and our response should use both, not just follow predetermined physical forces.

                      I attempt to temper my inherent physical impulses, though many times I am unsuccessful in achieving the right balance. An example: my ex would remark, "I knew you would phone tonight, there is a full moon."

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      The earthquake was predicted by an earthquake scientist in India, and not by astrology.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      Necromancy is specifically warned against in the Bible:

                      http://biblehub.com/topical/naves/n/necromancy–general_scriptures_concerning.htm

                      False teachers and false prophets are also warned against. I really don't want anyone taking my hope of heaven away from me.

                    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                      VanneV……I trust you belong to the Jehovah's Witnesses as they say they are the ones who possess the real biblical truth and thus are the only ones who will be taken up during "the end times."

                      And only a certain number of their adherents.

                      Fukushima certainly seems like a 'sign' of those end times.

                      Jus' say'n what I heard, not to cast aspersions on your belief(s).

                      (Some of my best friends are Jehovah's Witnesses…seriously, they are…and they don't 'believe' in astrology either.)

                    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                      …..obewanspeaks

                      ….did you mean knowledge Edgar Cayce sourced was powerful,

                      or were you referring to astrological knowledge,

                      or both?

                      or the fact that a quake moved that NE portion of Japan 8 feet?

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      I do not belong to Jehovah's Witness. Never have, never will. Most attempts at labeling are totally inaccurate.

          • GQR2

            He is nothing short of a manchuian candidate imo. a soldier for the bankers and the fourth Reich. He has made no mistakes and done exactly as he is told. imo. He is a suit empty and absolutely morally bankrupt,you have to be for the job these days. He is the Pepsi president,very sophisticated branding. imo. i don't give a hoot what their signs are they are psychopaths the clintons,the bushes,the obamas all building their personal empires,none gives a flying fig about the masses. Not a fig about the constitution. Not a fig about Radiation,gmos,toxic pharmacy NON of it. We are their chumps. Their cattle to cull.

            And libertarians are opportunists imo,none of them care either not a one. Especially those miscreants the Pauls.

            The reporter is a day late and a dollar short but better late than never- it is unconsciounable imo to send a group of student reporters there. Shows there has been no awakening to me. just my opinion. And trying to bring it back to the topic.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            President Obama, "Let me repeat that. We do not expect harmful levels of radiation to reach the West Coast, Hawaii, Alaska, or U.S. Territories in the Pacific …. "

            He went on to say it was not necessary for people in the U.S. to take any measures to protect themselves. Then he went on to say "we will continue inform the American people."

            ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=095dqQn_3H8

            Yeah, right.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        The Greens are the only party which is against fracking, against the Keystone Pipeline, against nuclear energy, and won't accept donations from corporations.

        Only Republicans or Libertarians say there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. There are differences between the parties.

        • PaciFistic PaciFistic

          Good for the Greens!

        • I think there are differences in the PEOPLE in the *parties*. Too many people, no matter what their affiliation or title in some group is, are trying to hang onto useless, harmful paradigms. I will never automatically put my energy behind a generality thing. I look at individual track records, breakthroughs and where the funding comes from and once in a while do notice a brave systems buster who works from within.

          This planet needs a reset. Won't be pretty.

          • PaciFistic PaciFistic

            ….do you think we'll be around to see that?

            • I'm not sure….but I'll keep on picturing it happening and with as little violence and death as possible. Quantum physics is interesting…need to reach critical mass in awareness while there are still enough people to enjoy the new paradigm.

              • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                Occupy is the spark for critical mass. Might be truly reached through Fukushima. Who knows. But there are several other factors running parallel. So I think if it really arrives, it'll be sooner than later!

                • Occupy has been a favorite of mine….not a hierarchy in the sense the press would like it to be. "It's not real, not structured, it has no leaders," they cry. Boo hoo…

                  LOL Exactly! It's fast communicating bunch of individuals, (quickly hooking up in work pods), who get the word out, gather and coordinate with other volunteers… transporting people and equipment, food and medicine, to where ever there's work to done.

                  They function as a harmonic that creates an incredible larger spectrum of efficiency. They don't sit around on their butts doing a study first. 🙂 Love 'em!

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    I always imagine if the 99% rose to power, if they would care any more about the 1% than they did about us, and who now sit under our windows in rags chanting "restart nuclear, restart nuclear" Heck, I guess if they got up enough signatures, we would relent and start up a FEW reactors anyway…

                  • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                    ….LastChants Teri…..Occupy is the answer to our times, because it's the answer to all our dysfunctional systems. Grassroots is where we have to start from scratch. It has its own spontaneous inner ordering, which we don't have to worry about.

                    Collective action where we can retain our individuality not harmful to that action.

                    If it is not too late, as it seems to be!

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      For public demonstrations to work, two things are required; first, demonstrators must demonstrate and secondly, they must influence the people in power. They got the first one but missed the second entirely.

                      Thats the problem with pleading before criminals or greedy people without moral compass to have a heart, give up their lucrative income and go to jail…Yet its simply incredible how much faith and hope we have that someday it will work….if only we could get enough signatures…

                    • Oops, now I'm replying to code's post @ 1:47pm but no reply button on his post soooo:
                      Oh, you're talking about occupy's street demo's & I agree about what a demo can or can't achieve. I don't pay much attention to the demo's or media's peepoor coverage that focuses on a couple of idiots or instigators in the crowd.

                      Earlier I was more talking about why they're so amazing in the way they appear when there's a disaster (like hurricane Sandy) and complex needs are assessed and solutions happen lightning fast. Within hours there were hundreds of individuals bringing & sorting donated supplies… climbing the tall bldg's darkened stairways wearing headlamps & backpacks, emergency meds and food…knocking on each door, taking prescriptions and special messages to loved ones…carrying people down on litters to safety or hospitals, via volunteers' vehicles. Coordinating too w/ Greenpeace's resources arriving at the scene, even feeding *other agencies'* hungry volunteers hot food out of Occupy truck/kitchens combing the stricken blocks.

                      Meanwhile red cross eventually set up a couple *offices* with no emergency supplies or food…just aid eligibility forms to fill out for financial help later.

                      Occupy works because they use a fluid methodology composed of so many smart, humble compassionate people who jump in where help is needed. I love that the emergency responders don't try to impress anyone at the top or news media. During a crisis their grassroots…

                    • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                      …..yeah, their grassroots get the watering and nutrients as called for by needs of the event.

                      To me it feels like Marshall McLuhan's 60s-prophesied 'Global Village" is really starting to come together. It's an altogether unprecedented revolution that can't die out.

                      What is dying is the old linear-raveled, greed & ego-bloated, competitive, profit-driven hierarchic world from the last millennium….to be replaced by a new tribal holistic one. Well, that was supposed to be the scenario.

                      But for the uncharted moment, we have peaking resources, global warming with the ice caps going, climate extremity, Fukushima and the rest of the aging NPPs.

                      Pockets of survival with inhabitants enlivened by newly evolved powerful DNA fortified against heat, nuclear radiation and other anomalous conditions is what we could be looking towards.

                      An altogether new age with truly sustainable, collaborative, cooperative, peace-and-love-engendered life for all.

                      Is that too much to look forward to?

                      In a couple of generations?

                      What else is there?

      • We Not They Finally

        Indeed. The left now abounds with disillusioned activists (us too,) quite sold out and betrayed. I've never not voted, but now ANY vote would come with pain. Obama wanted a post-partisan Presidency, but all that seemed to mean is corporatist. We were already horrified when he drilled in no blue america, no red america, just one america. It looks like one America under G. But the G. doesn't stand for God — it stands for G.E.

  • mutante mutante

    It's funny how som believe that the people who are responsible for the creation / maintenance & proliferation of any form of nuclear -related objects will someday have a moralistic epiphany & throw themselves into some form of cathartic confession. Maybe a few will, but the majority of these humanoids are sociopaths. So for the naives, I wouldn't hold my breath for this to save you.

    • PurpleRain PurpleRain

      I agree with you, Mutante. The majority of those in the Nuclear Industry will NEVER admit they were wrong or take any responsibility at all… they will never be able to "see" that they were wrong, not ever.

    • We Not They Finally

      I'm waiting for ONE to show profound public remorse, shame, and turnaround. There is a bit of truth in the biblical "What profiteth a man to gain the entire world if he loseth his soul?," but none of the guilty parties seem to get it.

  • Lion76 Lion76

    What are we, CHILDREN? I don't need my emotions regulated by anyone. However I react to any information is perfectly valid, because I am a HUMAN BEING and an ADULT in a supposed "free society" I swear I want to start punching people when they talk about not sounding "alarming/scaring"

    I think I was "alarmed" when I watched the mfing buildings destroy themselves 3 years and 2.8 months ago…

    PARENTAL GOVERNMENT of the NANNY STATE mommy hold me I'm scared.

    *rolleyes*

    • bo bo

      Lion76 I just listened through and agree with your sentiment here.
      I wanted to be supportive but what exactly is Yuri saying here…?
      Kind of vague statements all around…
      'I think it's a challenge for any government to stay transparent when they have something like a nuclear disaster etc..' 'distrusting the government… that is not a unique thing that happens in Japan… happens everywhere… even in U.S…. '

      I felt like there was a lot of ambiguous statements

      • Lion76 Lion76

        We don't want to disturb the precious "economy" I think.

        Like Bush said after 9/11, "keep shopping"

        • We Not They Finally

          Yeah, they think the dollar will collapse, but it probably will anyway. They're robbers, and the economic system is a house of cards. Far as we can tell, when they keep concealing the truth, and doing outrageous things like raising so-called "safe" limits of radioactivity to lethal levels, then they are just criminally complicit is the greatest crimes against all life. I see NO good in it.

    • We Not They Finally

      People should at least be given enough valid information to BE scared. One cannot even DO brave things if kept in the dark.

      Then people will die and that is somehow better than "panic"? Us, we at least knew enough to be scared enough to get the hell out of New Mexico. And that has been a GOOD thing.

  • mutante mutante

    Corporations–>lobbyists—>political party systems –> puppets of corporations –> naive, anti-intellectual general public
    Corporations –> ownership of media sources –> media coverage censored by corporations –> naive, anti-intellectual general public
    Radiation–> environment–> organisms' absorption of radioactivity
    Organisms'Absorption of radioactivity –> genomic instability
    Genomic instability –> cellular mutations –> cancer
    Genomic Instability –> genetic mutations in DNA–> mutated, compromised offspring
    Mutated, compromised offspring–> sterility in Mutated, compromised offspring

    Prognosis for all life forms' future existence –> highly unlikely.

  • How did that reporter come across to a general uninformed audience? Effective? I can't watch (dial-up) and anyway, I could really care less about how she would come across to me…the preaching to the choir thing. 🙂 But I'm hoping she sounded realistic and will keep reporting.

  • rogerthat

    ''It’s probably the biggest story of my life. I’ve been with AP for more than 20 years. And I think it’s up to the reporters to make sure this is important story is not forgotten.''

    – The MSM has yet to write the story of Fukushima. I hope Yuri Kageyama writes the biggest story of his life, now that he has noticed it's there, waiting to be written.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        Concerns Over Measurement of Fukushima Fallout
        By DAVID MCNEILL | THE CHRONICLE OF HIGHER EDUCATION MARCH 16, 2014
        “…The pressure he felt is not unusual — only his decision to speak about it. Off the record, university researchers in Japan say that even now, three years after the triple meltdown at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, they feel under pressure to play down the impact of the disaster. Some say they cannot get funds or university support for their work. In several cases, the professors say, they have been obstructed or told to steer clear of data that might cause public concern.’…”
        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/world/asia/concerns-over-measurement-of-fukushima-fallout.html

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        Unskilled and Destitute Are Hiring Targets for Fukushima Cleanup
        By HIROKO TABUCHIMARCH 16, 2014
        http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/world/asia/unskilled-and-destitute-are-hiring-targets-for-fukushima-cleanup.html

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        Nuclear Operator Raises Alarm on Crisis
        By HIROKO TABUCHI
        Published: August 23, 2013
        http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/world/asia/nuclear-operator-raises-alarm-on-crisis.html

        Near Fukushima, a Human Crisis Quietly Unfolds
        Oct 1, 2013 – Tomas Munita
        http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2013/10/01/world/asia/20131002-JAPAN.html#1

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

        With a Plant’s Tainted Water Still Flowing, No End to Environmental Fears
        By MARTIN FACKLER and HIROKO TABUCHI
        Published: October 24, 2013
        “TOKYO — For months now, it has been hard to escape the continuing deluge of bad news from the devastated Fukushima nuclear power plant. …”
        http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/25/world/asia/with-a-plants-tainted-water-still-flowing-no-end-to-environmental-fears.html

      • bo bo

        VanneV I have HUGE issues with NY Times and Pulitzer Prizes – and Hiroko Tabuchi ( the writer of many Fukushima NY Times articles – is both those things. Actually, through the following article breaking down 'Queen Hiroko' I discovered that this AP writer Yuri Kageyama is known among the inner circles as 'Lady in Waiting' to Hiroko Tabuchi's vapid and empty twitter 'Queen' status.

        http://goyamagazine.com/2013/08/09/nyt-hiroko-tabuchi-japan/

        I mean, how can you be covering Fukushima, get pulitzer prize and tweet : TOKYO GOT OLYMPICS !!! YAY !!!

        • bo bo

          If you read through this article you realize – Hiroko Tabuchi may not even be a real journalist… just a fictional superwoman / avatar

          Of course, it is just an observation – but I'm just throwing this idea out there…

          • bo bo

            And VanneV I do realize often times you're just throwing out the links not necessarily agreeing with those articles. So I am not arguing with you or complaining you posted those. Actually I am glad you posted them because it opened up my curiousity about these 'journalists'

        • PaciFistic PaciFistic

          ……this may sound racist, but is actually from personal observation over a long period….the Japanese are Japanese first and individuals second, being a very group-oriented people.

          And, especially if one is a Pisces, Sun sign or Ascendant person, then very contradictory.

          But aren't most of us like that sometimes. Not an excuse, just an observation.

          • bo bo

            Yes it sounds racist and is racist.
            It's ok though because I am guilty of stereotyping those who take astrology seriously as lacking an ability to think for themselves. Please don't respond to this response of mine, as you gave already digressed many other posters off track on this thread, and whether or not you are a racist or whether or not I was offended is completely irrelevant to this much important topic. Racist or not I would like for us to all survive. We will figure out the rest later. Thank you.

            PS- and yes I have seen your posts defending astrology, no need to repeat here. If you feel the need to explain again, please post in the Off Topic forum. Thanks again.

            • PaciFistic PaciFistic

              …..the truth I feel is Fukushima is trying to bring out the individuality of Japanese more than ever.

              As for myself, all of the thousands of Japanese Ive met I've seen as individuals, down to the person, without a shred of doubt. But often when they speak and act, it doesn't 'seem' that way, as even the Japanese themselves admit.

              Johann Kepler and Isaac Newton lacked the ability to think for themselves…sure, anything you say, bo

              You seem to know all about racism, not to mention, astrology. You could be my role model!

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                Fukushima brings out the individuality of Japanese…some get leukemia while others suffer nose bleeds, and yet others die from thyroid cancer…you know, I think youre onto something PaciFistic!

              • bo bo

                Lol Pacifistic I'm glad you got a taste of what it feels like to have someone paint you with huge brushstrokes…I actually am open minded and would give your knowledge about stars a chance if you would bring it to the Off Topic forum – but I phrased it that way so you get a taste of your own medicine.

                And as I said, the biggest issue I have with your posts above is not even the racism – but the fact that you are completely derailing the discussion from the main topic at hand, in the behinning of a thread.

            • We Not They Finally

              I'm an astrologer too. It can be profound and exact. Just do not think that P is a very good one — way too general to even mean anything. IMHO.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            I'm not Japanese, but American, descended from Europeans traced millennia ago to the Middle East, and native American, Powhatan and Cherokee. I don't believe in racism either. I don't have any contacts with any astrologers. I believe in free will, not in any deterministic rule of the stars. I find the readings funny because they always seem to have enough information to cover almost any contingency even including contradictory readings.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              Im descended from the Neanderthal…thus the..ahem, superior intellijens. Neither am I racist as I think all human races are just like different dog types…no discernible difference between them! I believe in free willy and the interconnectedness of all things….Doh! Maybe astrology works on that basis…sort of like quantum entanglement. Well at least were all entangled to our own opinions!

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                I think astrology is a way to make money off of people, rather like a snake oil scam or the whole nuclear scam.

                • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                  …..never made a single pence, cent, yen, clamshell, whatever, over decades.

                  Do you think the 3 magi charged? Jews did numerology, which is what astrology really is. Do you think they made money off people? Please be careful here!

                  Johann Kepler, Isaac Newton?

                  Opinions are OK if you recognize them as such.

                  We all come from Lucy, but have lost our lucidity along the way.

                  Is Fukushima really waking you up?

                • We Not They Finally

                  Wow, Anne, please do NOT go there! You haven't a clue. Astrology is just practiced poorly for the most part. The ancient art is exacting and profound. It's not a Sun Sign parade or some idiocy you read in a newspaper. And like I've said before to Pacifistic, YOU [meaning him] ARE NOT HELPING. Unfortunately.

                  • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                    ……WNTF…it's interesting/strange as an astrologer, your opining about my capacity as one also, while seeing merely a few points I could only generally have made having been given no real data…though in any case I wouldn't have taken it anywheres toward accuracy, especially if the pronouncement might in anyways be upsetting. I only began with a question which could have yielded an answer regards her strong penchant for communicating on Fukushima, something confirmational. However, threads happen when there's real interest negatively or positively.

                    So generalness here wouldn't have anything to do with any astrologer's real abilities. If you need to be assured, the let me assure you, I can take it as accurate as anybody on this planet. Whereas, with yourself, ask anyone reading here, whether your statements about my position with astrology assumes a superior stance on your part, at least in the sense that you know better. I could go on, but don't want to belabour…etc.

                    I myself would prefer not to say anything about your actual astrological practice or theoretical knowledge, unless there were some outstanding call for it and I had some 'real' evidence concerning 'your' astrology.

                    On the other hand, to be clearly positive here, I do feel on occasion it might be necessary to enlighten people re. obviously serious misunderstanding, as you tried to do immediately above, though the attempt often is rather iffy as regards results.

      • PaciFistic PaciFistic

        …..here's something interesting from the NYTimes:

        http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/27/science/chernobyl-capping-a-catastrophe.html

        Writer, Henry Fountain, comparing Chernobyl to "two other major accidents, at Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania in 1979 and Fukushima in 2011.," says, "At both of those plants, reactor cores melted down, but the core material — the nuclear fuel — remained within protective containment structures."

        I wrote the Times on the blatant error, and checking back a week later didn't see any correction…though there may be one there now.

        So, it doesn't matter what the source, MSM or alternative, we need to be cautious about the truth of any piece of disseminated information (including birth times people give astrologers for their charts), by double-checking and withholding our true inner judgement where possible.

    • rogerthat

      sorry, Yuri, ''now that she has noticed''

    • bo bo

      Yes I agree rogerthat I hope she writes the story too.
      So far… I feel like saying 'and so…where's the story…?'

      Am I being impatient ?
      3.5 years is a long time to wait no…?

      • Nemo Me Impune Lacessit Stax

        Hi bo,it's just like waiting for the 'Chilcot report' ,almost never ending,infuriating as Tony Bliar builds his fortune when he should be otherwise employed (inmates work party,for instance.

        • bo bo

          Interesting… dunno much about this but you made me look it up thanks stax 🙂
          I was an airheaded raver until 3/11 so sometimes I have chunks of history missing from the past and have a lot of catching up lol very embarrassing

          • Nemo Me Impune Lacessit Stax

            bo- just got home,was listening to various techno tunes while walking my GSD,I know what you mean,had a personal preference for black microdots myself-good excuse to not dance!
            On a lighter note,I listen to 'black moon rising' followed by 'draft dodger rag',they never fail to make me giggle.

  • PaciFistic PaciFistic

    Does anyone know for sure whether Yuri Kageyama is a she or he? Yuri in Japanese is a 'she,' in Russian, a 'he.' Could easily be part Russian.

    Over the years, I've read a great number of articles by this reporter…always solid straightforward reporting. Whenever I saw the name, I would read that news piece.

    Like LastChants Teri, I can't get YouTube.

    • rogerthat

      the voice recording works

      • rogerthat

        Yuri is in AP's Tokyo bureau. She should also worry about the people of Tokyo, who were not warned there was a radioactive cloud heading their way, and who were all irradiated

      • PaciFistic PaciFistic

        ….I knew I should've added 'Audio' after YouTube.

      • On 24.6 Kbs? Never had vid or voice work for me. I actually need transcripts without a bunch of other stuff that makes the page freeze up before it finishes loading.

        • We have ONE antique underground phone service along our highway (modern when it was put in during the early 70's) It has to feed about 200 households that I know of, maybe more. No cell phone service here. People that can afford $80 a month, 2 yr contract do the satellite subscription for internet.

          Like pushing a tsunami through a straw on dial-up. 🙂

          • PaciFistic PaciFistic

            ……many third world spots in Canada & US. Places like South Korea and Romania have us beat on speed being collectively available.

            Will we be notified when the next really hot cloud blows over?

            • No, no, and no. Does that answer the question.

              Buy a radiation detector, keep it turned on 24 hours a day, and have an alarm feature enabled.

              It will warn you WAY before any official announcements or warnings.

              Guarantee? You cannot depend on your government, the nuclear industry or emergency services.

            • We Not They Finally

              You weren't notified in the first place. Gina McCarthy, queen of turning radiation monitors OFF, won her promotion to head of EPA shortly thereafter. Sickening.

              • We Not They Finally

                You can check, however, to see if at least the beta and gamma readings are covered for your city. Like in our former location, Albuquerque, the "dangerous" 100 CPM became a LOW reading day, with 300-500 for beta way more common. Late last December, it spiked higher than 1,000 CPM and no, the public was certainly not "warned." No mention anywhere of anything, but the EPA monitoring did show it.

                Not all cities are covered by any means. But if yours is, you can check and see if you are in a hot zone. Enviroreporter.com gives a quick and easy link to the EPA readings on the right side of the home page.

                • PaciFistic PaciFistic

                  ….when I started commenting here, not so long ago, I did find a site covering readings across at least half the globe, with a great number of monitored locations across the US.

                  Wondered why some of them showed spikes while the rest were low. Didn't take me long to figure out the high counts didn't have anything to do with Fukushima. Rather, the monitors were probably near US plants that were venting/leaking, or the like.

                  Why do you say 'former' location for Albuquerque?

  • Gasser Gasser

    He said> “I don’t want to sound alarmist or scare anybody, but this is real”

    You pice of shit pansy ass AP reporters SHOULD be scaring the living fuck out of the world populace, thats the only way there will be anything done to stop the Nuclear madness, get off your digital fast food hemorrhoid asses and do your job right, (print truth) if you don't, your just as bad if not worse then the mad nutty scientist and nuke stockholders and so call “experts” involved in this ELE FUBAR fuck up from automatic Hell…Just pissed off sayin'

    • mutante mutante

      Right on!!! That's their fu$king job. So either do it, or go clean toilets for a living!

      • melting mermaid melting mermaid

        I think at some point they changed their job from informing the public to selling product. Or maybe their job was always manufacturing consent. Molding the genomicly unstable, anti intellectual general publics collective consciousness. Control freaks never cease to amaze me. How do they find the time and energy? I trust the media about as much as I could throw them. I get my news from you guys and books. The media is always only going to tell you what their corporate overlords want you to know. If they can they'll try to stop citizen journalism and wistleblowers and the internet. They are afraid of the truth and the light, because of their misdeeds. Their survival depends on our ignorance and apathy and collectively we've had a lot more than just the wool pulled over our eyes. We are under assault. Physically, spiritually, mentally, tataly..we are misinformed, mislead and blind sided daily. Most people can't face life, much less the truth or death. How can they face this? What the world needs now is the compassion you would give a dying child, what they get is lies and the steel toe and nickeled and dimed to death and a polluted world to hand shame faced to their mutated children. Well, I think we can all agree, Christians,republicans, heathens, astrologers and astronomers, truthers and shills,blacks and browns and reds and whites that we could have done so much better on this beautiful, blue and green jewel of a planet. Don't know what you got til it's gone. I guess.

        • mutante mutante

          Very well put, Melting Mermaid. As the world's population grew, the idea of protecting our fragile environment should have been valued as paramount, not the greedy desires of the few. If we had of set up a world system that scrutinized the creation of mass-made products' effects on our environment, maybe we would be in a much less dire situation now.
          The same approach would have denied nuclear objects through the gates of man.
          But greed, short-sighted ness, materialism and comfort won out.

    • bo bo

      Amen to the Church of Gasser

    • Nemo Me Impune Lacessit Stax

      Gasser – hat off to you sir,well said.

  • califnative califnative

    rogerthat – thanks for the links, horrible to see the dead crabs.

  • Ana Ana

    Preliminary info translated from Japanese Fukushima Central Television indicates that the Japanese government is considering altering the acceptable level of radiation so that areas can be considered "safe" without expensive remediation. Of course we took the lead on changing what was "safe" long ago. It is allll about the money.
    Ana in Sacramento

    http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2014/06/japanese-government-is-rumored-to.html

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    JAPAN AND NORTH AMERICA . . .

    Emanating from Fukushima, traveling by wind and sea.

    • Angela_R

      "Emanating from Fukushima, traveling by wind and sea."

      If the map of the Gulf Stream, shown in the following video, is correct, then I doubt the US is getting much fallout by wind from Fukushima http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOp_UfjhhlE (this link was posted earlier by Heart of the Rose on the Off-topic Forum)

      The 'artificial radiation bridge' created between Alaska and Australia is possibly carrying a load of these radioactive particles. I speculate that it was believed that they would be sucked up through the hole in the ozone layer in the Southern hemisphere.
      http://rense.com/general95/haarp1.html

      If so, the atmospheric radiation being experienced in the US is more likely to be locally produced.

      • General User General User

        Angela_R
        If we give the German Model from ?1989? any credit. [enenews.com/study-finds-giant-strontium-90-release-into-body-of-water-begins-around-1000-days]
        All of the Uranium and Plutonium fallout across the USA {Tons?}is now beginning to release cesium and strontium LOCALLY. In addition to the usual NPP and WIPP and StLouis fire releases.

        Respectfully, IMO…

        • Angela_R

          Hi General User,
          I may be confused with the study you are referring to, however I think the 1000 days is the length of time it is estimated for the radioactivity to travel via the OCEAN from Fukushima to the US.
          However, it is the transference via the ATMOSPHERE, i.e. the Jet stream, that I was mentioning in my above post.

          Strontium, cesium, depleted uranium and plutonium, together will other elements and isotopes, were disturbed across the pacific in the first few days, VIA the atmosphere, after the hydrogen (some think nuclear) explosions in March 2011. There may have also been other emissions since.

          What I was citing above, and rarely mentioned, is a change in atmospheric conveyance as reported in the rense article.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Ever see that movie "Starship Troopers?" Have your seen the new movie, " Edge of Tomorrow?"

    The soldiers in those movies at least had a chance. They didn't have to fight the hordes of radioactive isotopes besieging us now.

    This war… Where to start? Hanford, or Fukushima? WIPP? Our generals won't even admit to the presence of the enemy. Because the money is like the temporal nexus in the "Star Trek: Generations" movie.

    Translation for those not into the science fiction genre : This is some pretty shit, now.

    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      one of my favs, unincredulous. I'm astonished how few get it. Starship Troopers is both brilliant parody and scathing indictment of the human species. I'll checkout the other one, ASAP…

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

      The problem is, there is no remedy. Blinding following technology, when technology has no solution. It is partly the fault of education which is so specialized, when a broader-based education would have given people some judgement to see the consequences of pursuing nuclear energy. Also putting smart meters on homes and other wifi guarantees the end of the human species and all species.

      The death of all the bees and nuclear pollution mean that everyone will starve to death even before the end of the human genome and excess temperature spikes fry everything is sight. A race to the end.

      I can hear all the microwaves in my head buzzing around. Oh, for the days when the air was clean and silent, and the water was pristine and crystal clear.

  • sistahawk

    ….when it started – without knowing the impact in total (we still do not know after 3 years of denying and coveritup..)we talked at home , where these masses of people could go and establish new .. ( australia ?) not only a logistical nightmare.. these days you get a blank stare when you ask what someone know about it.. they say : yeah , heart it was bad like it's over..when fukuwipphaarps..t rumbling along at the same time..some could run outa words.. one of the reasons migth be , that they simply have no idea where to put them on the globe…stay tuned and keep it up..and thanks s lot..

  • TruthSeeker TruthSeeker

    "In fact all incumbent politicians have failed on Fukushima" and the world. And that is why it what it is…Dismal at best!

  • Sol Man

    People getting sick all around the world with the major catastrophes going off all over, and that has to include all of the du getting spread around with the multiple wars.

    The wars offer a bad way to get rid of the depleted uranium.

    Anybody close to the action gets dosed and then it blows around the world.

  • FXofTruth

    Why has God allowed the simple mind of Man to play with such danger in the very environment that Man needs to survive? The simple mind of Man has created a way for his ENTIRE home to die along with all other living creatures… that ALL had nothing to do with Man's simple minded ways.

    This disaster as well as all and any wars Man puts himself into… is because God has given up on Man. God gave Man a brain with which to think with yet, Man does not. God gave Man very simple laws and desires for Man to follow and grow with yet, Man does not. God created a World that has everything in it for Man to create a paradise for himself and all his descendants yet, Man does not. Why? Because Man does not know how to use his "Free Will" with care and respect.

    Man follows the desires of Satan.
    Man finds excitement purposely performing the "Seven Deadly Sins" in his daily activities! Satan has proven to God that Man is his most defective creation! "Look how easy it was to turn Man against you" Satan has boasted! "With shiny metals, paper, and land that cannot be owned by these simple-minded creatures, I managed to instill LUST, VANITY, HATE, REVENGE and EVIL into their very souls!"

    Satan can mock God because we all have let God down.
    We have all done nothing to change anything; we have not joined together to stop anything; we have sat by and watched this growing destruction of our planet and demise of our only home.

    We ARE God's most embarrassing creation.
    We can…

    • Homolumina Homolumina

      There is no Papa God protecting us ! There is only free will, and the only religion rooted in truth is the one of cause and effect. And it were not initiated psychopathic alpha males all rotted together in the US military who wanted world supremacy and built the bomb. Get a grip FXoftruth !

      • Nemo Me Impune Lacessit Stax

        Homolumina bang on the money,it is time for common law courts formed from the community to take the reins,those laws are not bound by nation states.

        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          correct, Stax. Most people have been so cowered, they don't realize their right (and obligation) to form (or reinstate) their own legal response to threats to the general welfare of the people. So, where we might find ourselves in need of a cop, until such time as one's available, we are allowed to intervene on the behalf of those who are being threatened by unlawful actions. In those instances where organized crime has infiltrated and compromised the integrity of our law enforcement and legal decision making organizations, the citizenry are free reinstate the aforementioned legal institutions. Put another way, the citizenry does not have to ask permission to be kept safe. That right goes to the core of every law enforcement and legal decision making entity's right to represent the will of the people. As has happened throughout human history, we again find ourselves tasked with reclaiming our right to be keep safe from tyrannical criminal elements. We are the bearers of the law. Failure to accept that responsibility is what got us here, today…

          • Homolumina Homolumina

            Very well spoken Aftershock… But the educational system here is not set up to produce responsible, critical citizens. The opposite is the case for obvious reasons…

            • PaciFistic PaciFistic

              …..and now, as I've just discovered, Bill Gates has managed, almost surreptitiously, to slip in something called Common Core standards into the education system of almost all states across America, a country of over 300 million people….standards which obviously would reflect Gates' values regarding knowledge and the dissemination of that knowledge within the young minds of almost all growing Americans…which in the end would affect their ability, as adult citizens, to discern truth.

              How much of a done deal this is, am not clear, but how that got past Congress says something about how major influence can be peddled in the US without proper investigation.

              There's supposed to be a blog about this in the Washington Post, but don't have the URL, sorry.

          • We Not They Finally

            But where are even the lawyers and the lawsuits? Where is Socrates these days? Miss his voice.

  • The Samson Principle; Holding The World Hostage With Nuclear, Chemical, Biological Weapons Of Mass Destruction; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-samson-principle-holding-world.html

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    This is not news ..not is it a mystery. This is the anticipated scientific consequence from ANY major nuclear.

    We have been saying this for 3 and some odd years.
    The MSM..are now free to blurt out whatever they want.
    They have tested the waters (in many areas)..and found the masses gullible and pliable …and having cognitive dissonance.

    This is the inevitable and on-going truth.
    People, the fauna and flora ..are becoming affected by nuclear contamination from Fukushima.
    Others can dance around the issue.
    Here at Enenews ..we do not.
    I bow to my fellow posters.

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Typo.." any nuclear incident"…it doesn't have to be major.
      It comes down to exposure.
      And it is evident…our leaders, our governments.. don't care what exposures the people receive.
      Here again it ends in madness.
      Because NO ONE is impervious to radiation.
      They doom the People ..they doom themselves.
      Simple as that.

  • TepcoSievert TepcoSievert

    A lot of effort is being put into drowning the real news with a wave of disinformation. Just these two examples: see such videos as "The Grandmothers of Chernobyl", supposedly proving that the elderly ladies who refused to follow evacuation orders and stayed on in the contaminated zones are now in excellent health; and "the radioactive wolves of Chernobyl, scary mutations", a perfectly misleading title to attract the worried public who are then told how lucky and healthy the wildlife is without human interference in the exclusion zone: not a single negative effect of radiation is mentioned. This campaign is meant to put the public to sleep and is probably aimed at raising the ceiling of "acceptable levels of contamination", as well as preparing us to accept the inevitable next nuclear disaster.

    • bo bo

      Yes and how about the plot for the most recent Godzilla film – the little boy that witnesses a nuclear reactor meltdown grows up to be a healthy soldier. Emotionally scarred, yes, but strong and healthy. Great PR.

  • Dick Shenary

    The federal government reclassified pilots and cabin attendents as radiation workers in 1994. The airline companies almost never let their employees know this little fact because radiation exposure is not measured in the airline industry, nor are there standards or limits regarding exposure. In fact, flight crews on high-latitude routes are exposed to more radiation on an annual basis than nuclear plant workers. Frequent fliers are earning a bit more than just points. Does anyone know what the average CPM readings have been at altitude before Fukushima and even more interesting whould be counts taken before nuclear weapons testing began in 1944? Everyone talks about cosmic radiation, but I would like to know what the man made radiation contribution has been.

    • GQR2

      Did not know this,wow – that Federal Gov. regulation is little known. That you for bringing it to the attention of the readers here.http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/AGU-NAIRAS.html is an article about what NASA is doing with people working on airplanes. Will we ever see the results ?

      • Fukushima High Altitude Radiation Plume – Hundreds of Flight Attendants Suffer Hair Loss, Skin Lesions; via @AGreenRoad
        http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/05/fukushima-hundreds-of-flight-attendents.html

      • melting mermaid melting mermaid

        My adopted mother was a flight attendant for Delta, she flew all over the world. She died of cancer when she was 45. Terrible they didn't inform these people. My little girls teacher is doing chemo for breast cancer and still teaching. We are just all the time, unknowingly being bombarded. Cell phones and wifi, bananas and x rays and covered up meltdowns. Its crazy. We've already screwed the pooch haven't we. Don't forget weapons testing and fracking and du and uranium mining. What happened to our instinct for survival? Are the warmongers using mind control on us to make us blindly walk off this cliff, like sheep to the slaughter? Every day I just hang my head in shame going why? Why? Why? What is wrong with us? Why can't we stop killing ourselves? We are consuming ourselves with consumerism. Like a cancer that dies after killing it's host. We are batshit crazy.

        • GQR2

          We,the masses have been driven crazy. Driven crazy by EMFs,toxic ingredients in food we consume regularly. Toxic chemicals in common household products. Insane work schedules,endless information overload and stimulation. The brain is a delicate organ. The train of empire is over the track,hurling off towards more destruction. What will be created out this wrecked area of land called the usa(at this point in time) we don't know.

          It could have been different. But i don't know when the process could have been interrupted. When there was a chance of slowing "progress" and i use the term loosely,down.

          When a war is waged it helps to know who the enemy is,we never had a chance. We trusted in our governmental agencies,NOT thinking they might exploit the very people they were serving. i.e. the FDA,CDC,USDA,EPA,AMA,APA,HHS,and on it goes.

          Right Now,stopping the re habitation of the Hot Zone is job one. Its looking tuff,they have a huge brain washing propaganda operation in full swing.

          The selling of the Hot Zone,its a level of perversity that tops all the tyranical maniacs through out history put together.

        • PaciFistic PaciFistic

          ……melting mermaid….since you know what the situation is, you must realize you are one entity who can change as necessary…and that is a very fortunate state to be in. It's difficult to change others who (unbeknownst to you but won't tell you and) don't want to change…that will take a surprising amount of wasted energy. Meanwhile those who are on the cusp of change, I feel, will have a better chance when viewing your example of living action and not when listening to what you say. You no doubt are aware of all that; thought it wouldn't hurt to repeat.

          Very sorry to hear of your mother who left so young!!! As I understand it, she was adopted, not you? Have observed over many years that people who fly a lot as passengers tend to age faster than their years should show. At first, thought that might've been due to 'cosmic' radiation, but realize now of course it's all that added other stuff in the sky from nuclear testing, etc.

          Regarding cell phones, when having one 10 years or more back, I found my ear would start to heat up if on the thing too long. Glad I had to get rid of it on moving residence.

          More recently, I've been noticing a strong charge within a radius of 2 feet around wall outlets…really concentrates any odours in a room, interestingly. Also, when a child, I couldn't walk under high-tension lines, as the 'crackling' energy there was too intense for me, or walking along rural roads on the side of the electrical…

          • PaciFistic PaciFistic

            ….poles and bare lines, I'd hear the wires 'sing.' What effects these places have on the human body after how long, it's hard to say, but probably not good. By instinct I avoid them. There's no end to these technologically derived but hidden dangers in conveniences we take for granted.

            This is only my opinion, and I feel it may happen in great numbers in the years head, but it is possible to arm oneself, so to speak, by certain 'bioelectromagnetic energy' enhancement practices (an expression I began using years back)…practices which will fortify one against harmful invisible invasions from the likes of bacteria and viruses, pesticides and related chemicals, nuclear radiation and other toxic conditions. One can even take the full current from a 120-volt outlet. I have known someone fairly closely for a number of years, a female, who could do just that…in addition have seen this demonstrated on Japanese television (no tricks). Also, it is possible to change one's DNA for the better, as I believe I have accomplished just that (except can't prove scientifically)…though without knowing specifically which genes were benefited (not necessary)….and this takes a little time and energy, but is highly worthwhile. Have touched on this in a comment about halfway up the page, where I discussed a bit about pockets of survivors during the "end times."

            What I'm saying is…

          • PaciFistic PaciFistic

            ……there's an occasion to be very sad now….but also to be a little optimistic. For those who don't have much time, they can still learn about proper leave-taking.

      • bo bo

        Hi – I posted earlier a Japanese article about 'Peach Aviation' cancelling flights but just found an article about it in English

        http://www.japancrush.com/2014/stories/peach-aviation-to-cancel-2000-flights-due-to-pilot-shortage.html

        The reason for the massive cancellations is that 'the amount of pilots who didn’t fulfill the basic health standards was unexpectedly high and they can’t guarantee the necessary amount of staff.'

    • Homolumina Homolumina

      Hi Dick, as far as I know you get 200 CPM up there, but when you hit the plume you are sizzling in a whopping 2700 CPM of whatever flies up there. My child has been radiation damaged. He displays typical symptoms, nervous- and immune system damage, mild retardation, allergies, autoimmune responses. I flew with him from the Westcoast to Europe for the first 6 years of his life at least twice a year. Radchick has more detailed information on this issue.

  • Dick Shenary

    The CDC weighs in on airline radiation exposure with conflicting results.
    "Recent reports highlighting increased cancer incidence and mortality among airline pilots and cabin crew have raised concerns about potential exposure of these workers to known or suspected carcinogens, in particular cosmic ionising radiation. Higher radiation dose rates are found at higher altitudes and in the polar regions, and mean doses to flight crew have been increasing over time as longer flights at higher altitudes have become more frequent. Other possible hazards that may play a role in cancer risk for flight crew include irregular working hours and disturbances of circadian rhythm."
    A number of other CDC articles states that there is no significant danger to altitude radiation levels.
    These CDC reports cannot be simultaneously correct.

    • GQR2

      No they aren't simultaneously correct. This is a propaganda tactic to create cognitive dissonance,plausible doubt,confirmation bias,normalcy bias and the CDC is an epic fail on the disease front.

      but remember they already know the conclusion of every study they do ahead of time. It usually includes,bananas,now potato chips,and of course cell phone chargers.
      The day they report radiation dangers honestly…they always say nothing to worry about,no danger to human health,undetectable levels,levels that are like background which is so F'ing stupid – how does 2+2=2 in their world and teach this common core STUPIDITY to the public!
      Its meant to obfuscate what people have known for almost a century. RADIATION MAIMs and KILLs it is not compatible with human life. Less is always better but will still kill you and maim your DNA,create organ specific cancers,heat attacks,nose bleeds,leukemia ahhh modern science is so purely

  • Dick Shenary

    I recently took a short flight from Orange County to San Francisto and at 39,000 feet, I got a ten minute average reading of 1,027 CPM. Does anyone have any altitude counts before 3/11/11?

  • SadieDog

    Japan govt reveals new blueprint to deal with Fukushima …
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20140609_29.html

    • GQR2

      SadieDog, their blue print involves having so many workers in the hot zone,is it their intention to bring these bright minds in there to work and ignore the "stricken" Nuclear Plant. Stricken? Utter Madness.

      • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

        not really, GQR2. It's obvious from their stated program objectives, they're primarily concerned with restoring public confidence in their handling of Fukushima. Yet those stated objectives reveal some interesting intel: They've come to acknowledge their inability to maintain any semblance of control of these compromised facilities, so they're belatedly moving towards the realization that advanced robotics may be their only option.

        Next, we see them "…including facilities for wind power and other renewable energies…" into their program objectives. This may be more than a cynical attempt to reassure the public that they're they're moving towards using environmentally benign energy-production technologies. I sense from these program objectives, they've arrived at the realization that nuclear power is a losing proposition. Regardless how many smiley faces are used to cover-up the reality of Fukushima, the cold-hard truth is known to those on the inside. They just can't go public with their past energy policy mistakes, without bringing so much else in question…

        • GQR2

          there is this as well in the campaign to cloak this ELEphant in invisibility. The more they do this kind of shit <—- hehehe the more those who are the reality based,are delegated to the realms of neurotic. (manical bastards) With the news black out in Japan the Reality Based people get so little feed back – With the U.N. and everybody else lying so pervasively,doubling down lying more.
          check this out —> http://rt.com/news/164748-fukushima-happy-pharrell-williams/

  • Nick

    The fear keeps building…….

    Guess what? We are just at the beginning.

    I suggest this reporter rephrase to" this is the biggest story of the century"

    We know the nuclearats don't give a rats ass about their toxic loading of the ecosphere.

    The meme from here on out has to be nuclear sucks, be it in a bomb, in a lab or a hospital (no I think we use WAY too much radioactive tracers and xrays).

  • SadieDog

    Tepco says water level in #2 Fukushima reactor is half of what was estimated…
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20140610_04.html

  • The picture shows uncovered melted fuel with water covering only about half of it sitting in a neat dog pile, on top of the undamaged cement pedestal under the reactor.

    Of course, this would mean fissioning fuel, offgassing iodine and xenon, and all of the rest.

    Which matches exactly what is happening all the way down to Tokyo.

  • Where are those multiple melted out coriums TEPCO?

  • Jebus Jebus

    Happy Madness in Japan. Insanity makes you happy, eventually…

    Fukushima creates its own Pharrell Williams HAPPY video and it's really inspiring

    http://rt.com/news/164748-fukushima-happy-pharrell-williams/

    I'm pretty creative and I can't make this shit up…

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Told ya.. mind control.

    PHARRELL WILLIAMS- HOLLYWEIRD’S LITTLE LUCIFER, A MASTER OF DECEPTIONS AND ILLUSIONS

    http://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2014/02/20/pharrell-williams/

    I knew the moment ..I heard happiness and truth put together..

    • GQR2

      i hadn't heard of him,despite not living under rock 😉 What a creep. There is something kind of dead about him. cyborgy almost. goofy definitely. Though i bet if i was about 30 yrs younger lol,i would think he was cool.

      Very powerful agent for the people this branded junk. People distracted humming " happy happy happy" are really easy to fool about just about anything.

  • Jebus Jebus

    I watched and now I feel a little light headed and disney…

    Interesting…

    http://iamother.com/manifesto

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    I strictly do not do manifestos.
    Just saying…LOL

    • GQR2

      That manifesto is vague and really really creepy. Some Brave New World-esq programming there. Is it my reading of it,am i distorted or it flat,shallow and above all encouraging narcissism. This is Venus Project type programming. Not community building but a message to alienated without much to offer other than joining the other. gaah!

      The programming in Pharrell's script wants to replace a coherent narrative of community and isolate people in individual bubbles while of course they/we are living in community.

      Isolate in place,but know you are somehow part of this vast "other" yeah right,nice message. Its not a message of hope. i don't read it that way,am i misinterpreting this. Its a newspeak in its entirety.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Pharrell Is Sporting A Headdress On The Cover of Elle UK And Nobody’s Happy
    June 5 2014

    http://thestyleofthecase.com/2014/06/05/pharrell-is-sporting-a-headdress-on-the-cover-of-elle-uk-and-nobodys-happy/

  • Jebus Jebus

    That's where the manifesto comes back to bite one…

    "Whoever is the most individual wins."

    No uniqueness required. Just a copy of your reflection.

    ->place happy emoticon here<-

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Dead Can Dance – Host of the Seraphim

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGfl_aYu8Hc

  • Jebus Jebus

    Broken mirrors for the human reality.

    Eventually…

    Happy. Reality. Extreme.

    There's a mosaic…

  • SadieDog

    Dr Gooodheart, you will like this one. Tepco says condition of reactors and fuel in 1,2 and 3 still unknown…
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20140610_11.html

  • They trot out that 'nothing is known' piece like they are PROUD of it.

    Mom, I'm home from school and I know absolutely NOTHING.

    Can I get a cookie and some milk now, as a reward?

  • GQR2

    If Nothing is known,then the Contaminated Prefectures ought to remain evacuated.

    Until something is known.
    Better get some people in there who know something.
    and round and round we go while the Earth gets slowly poisoned. (not so slowly in many cases)

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