Published: November 30th, 2011 at 3:53 pm ET
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Study shows deeper meltdown at Japan nuke reactor, AP by Mari Yamaguchi, Nov. 30, 2011:
Some experts have raised questions about achieving the ‘cold shutdown’ [TEPCO and gov't officials are aiming at bringing pressure vessel temperatures -- "containing healthy fuel rods" -- to "way below" 100°C].
Those experts are saying:
- “The fuel is no longer there”
- Therefore “Measuring the temperature of empty cores is meaningless”
- And “Nobody knows where and how hot the melted fuel really is”
Thank you AP and Mari Yamaguchi for this informative report
Published: November 30th, 2011 at 3:53 pm ET
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I wish AP would have read enenews several months ago!
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Any reporter researching Fukushima would have come across enenews. I found it when I started my own research in March. I’m no genius.
Why are more details (that were reported here months ago) being released by mainstream now?
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The gradual and piecemeal release of data in small and confusing bits combined with retractions and arguments deters the vast majority from ever paying attention to this problem, but provides the industry with lots of plausible deniability later.
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Mark, you bring an interesting point to the forefront of my mind: I found enenews because I was looking for a site that would give me REAL information about Fukushima. We are trying to share this information with the masses, and most of them couldn’t care less. The only people I have spoken with who give a flying f-bomb about this are new mothers who are concerned about their babies’ food. Everyone else sees this accident as an inevitable part of nuclear energy (which I think is completely insane!)They think nuclear is the only way to go because the media has brainwashed them. So, they also believe that accidents like Fukushima are just a way of life now. Sorry for the rant-novel, but I have tried very hard to inform people about our impending destruction, and they DO NOT CARE.
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Yep! I also found it looking for the TRUTH. I just was talking with co-workers about what WE believe we know to be true, and as soon as I told them I got the information from the internet, it was end of discussion.
So far it is hard to get past the sheeple brainwashing. It is far more difficult than I thought to get some folks to BE OBJECTIVE and think on their own. Possibly the radiation/fluoride/thalidomide, whatever, has already done it’s job on them.
I haven’t given up tho. Maybe I’ll try some handouts tomorrow.
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Finally now it’s out in the MSM that “cold shutdown” is completely bogus.
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I don’t expect this story will get far, it’s hitting on too many truths. At least people have something in the AP to try to convince sheeple that this isn’t over…..perhaps time to start tilting at the windmill of apathy once again?
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Yes, what a surprise — what can be done is the question ?
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Lots to do, really so little time – stop nuclear new build is the first thing – talk to the nuke workers, write to your newspapers and politicians – they are just people going on the information provided to them – most are frankly ignorant and even if in vehement denial, your words, as long as they are polite and well informed will be read, do not underestimate the power of the words as they are heard in the mind and the connections we all share – hippie stuff it may be, true it is.
I badger the pro-nuke sites on facebook and fly an anti-nuclear flag (massive) out of my car window, everyone reads it, the thoughts get in the soup.
If anti- is not your thing, look go pro-renewable and invest some time in getting the word out about decentralised energy production and question our energy usage.
Obviously sign petitions and go on demos – how about organising a demo – we need a bluddy enormous turnout for world wide Fukushima day events. Lots to do, take heart, the pendulum is swinging against them.
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+100million zillion
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I do feel the momentum building, a little. Each plant built now will run it’s course, of 40 to 70 years. not many have been built since the 70s 80s, so this is perfect time to put a nail in the coffin of the death of the human species.
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I’m confused by the opening few paragraphs of this article:
“Radioactive debris … may have seeped … to within a foot from breaching the crucial steel barrier…
The plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said its latest simulation showed fuel at the No. 1 reactor may have eroded part of the primary containment vessel’s thick concrete floor. The vessel is a beaker-shaped steel container, set into the floor. A concrete foundation below that is the last manmade barrier before earth.”
I thought the “primary containment” was the “reactor pressure vessel,” and that was made of thick steel. I thought the outer containment structure was made of concrete, and that was considered a “secondary” containment. This article first makes it sound as though it hasn’t burned all the way through the steal yet (which seems to refer to the RPV), but then it notes that it might have started eroding the concrete floor of the “primary containment.” Am I confused, or is this journalist?
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Not sure if this helps, but it appears the containment vessel has steel around the concrete.
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one of articals posted here somewhere gives the thickness of the steel !
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Great Source of Info on Energy to melt concrete
Also keep in mind that steel melts around 2500 deg F, Corium fissions at around 5000 deg F “Blob temperature”. The cute little “blob” that TEPCO showed in their recent drawing of a Corium out of the box was deceptive in size, the real mass of the Corium will be !!!! 200 TONS !!!! of fissioning, poisonous, super hot hell on earth. Y’all TEPCO boyz got a 200 ton blob of stuff and you can’t tell me where it is?
http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/p/japan-nuclear-information.html
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> Therefore “Measuring the temperature of empty cores is meaningless”
I believe I and others said this long ago here and on other forums. Saying it in other forums led to ridicule and accusations of being anti-Japan. How absolutely ridiculous. Are people so stupid that they cannot figure this out on their own and need “nuclear experts” to tell them the obvious?
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They are not paying attention, their livelihoods have been stolen by the gov/banksters, they are hoping that somehow all is well. It isn’t.
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Funny, when you read the AP article it gives a picture of ‘but no problem, tepco is on top of it’.
But when bullet pointed here it seems extreme.
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Yeah. They’re on top of it alright. They’re on top of a ticking time bomb
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