Published: December 14th, 2011 at 10:50 am ET
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Japan to declare nuclear plant in stable condition, AP, Dec. 13, 2011 (Emphasis Added):
- Japan is poised to declare its crippled nuclear plant virtually stable nine months after a devastating tsunami
- But [...]
- Facility still leaks some radiation
- Remains vulnerable to earthquakes
- Shows no prospect for cleanup for decades
- Experts caution that the progress so far at Fukushima should not be overstated
- Problems could still crop up
Cold Shutdown ‘Conditions’
- Meeting that strict definition [of cold shutdown] is impossible at Fukushima Dai-ichi
- The damaged reactors’ fuel has melted
- Its exact whereabouts is unknown
- Virtually impossible to know the exact temperature of the fuel
- Because of the educated guesswork involved, Japanese authorities are using the phrase “cold shutdown conditions,” rather than “cold shutdown”
Haruki Madarame, Chairman of Japan’s Nuclear safety commission
“The reactors are broken and we hardly know what it really is like inside the reactors and it’s difficult to predict what may occur”
Satoru Tanaka, nuclear physicist at the University of Tokyo
“But achieving the status does not mean the problem is over — There are so many things that still need to be taken care of and clarified”
Kazuhiko Kudo, nuclear physicist at Kyushu University
“TEPCO and the government are anxious to bring a certain closure to the crisis [...] It would be a problem if the announcement gives an impression that the plant has received an official safety certificate”
The AP may want to double check the following claims in their report
- Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda said last week that temperatures inside the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant’s three melted reactor cores are almost consistently below the boiling point
- The Fukushima plant disaster, which spewed an estimated one-fifth the amount of radiation as the 1986 accident at Chernobyl
1) The location of the cores is unknown, therefore getting a temperature measurement of the melted reactor cores is not possible. So how is it possible to claim the cores are below the boiling point?
2) “Regarding Cesium-137 [...] the new estimate shows that emissions started earlier and ended later than assumed in most studies so far. The total release amounts to 36 PBq, which equals 40% of the Chernobyl emissions.” (SOURCE)
Published: December 14th, 2011 at 10:50 am ET
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What does “virtually stable mean”?
It sounds like a euphemism for “unstable”.
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I agree!
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It means ‘almost stable’. There now, isn’t that reasuring? I feel better already…….
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I’m ‘almost’ a millionaire, only $999,999 dollars to go….
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virtual – definition of virtual by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus …www.thefreedictionary.com/virtualCached – Similar
You +1′d this publicly. Undo
Existing or resulting in essence or effect though not in actual fact, form, or name: the virtual extinction of the buffalo. 2. Existing in the mind.
Yeah…it’s all in their minds….not in reality…getting close to honesty for TEPCO, I’m not discounting that they spoke in error.
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It depends on what “is” is…
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“Because of the educated guesswork involved, Japanese authorities are using the phrase “cold shutdown conditions,” rather than “cold shutdown””
NUKE-speak = Newspeak (a la Orwell)
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I think it should read, “Because of the educated guesswork involved, Japanese authorities are fucking clueless…..”.
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But aren’t you reassured to learn that it is educated guesswork rather than mere guesswork?… Me neither.
When the spinners lose their confidence, bluster and bravado I really start to worry.
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The optimistic man falling down from the 100 store skyscraper says after 80 store, “still nothing serious happend, all stable”.
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Hmmmmmm, Bolting the stable doors after the cores have left???
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hehe
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HA! Great!
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Not knowing where the cores are or how big the breaches in the reactors are while still pouring water in/on/over/thru a 100ton blob of radioactive uranium, and spent fuel pools 100′ off the ground and leaking, Stable? I guess this is a new use of the word ‘stable’ that I’m not familar with. I would say contaminating the pacific ocean for the next millennia, contaminating the Japanese food supply and surrounding forest cities and countries far from stable. I would think the world would organized a massive effort to help stop and cleanup if for no other reason than Japan is the 3rd biggest economy in the world. Instead we get radioactive whitewash.
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SNAFU = Stable
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OT NRC COMMISSION
THEIR GONNA HANG HIM
I’m pissed.
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PAUL LANGLEY HAS A QUESTION MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN ANSWER
(i dont know)
http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/13-march-2011-uss-ronald-reagan-240km-off-japanese-coast-detected-technetium-in-radioactive-plume/#respond
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Probably from ongoing fission or nuclear exchange.
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“The Fukushima plant disaster, which spewed an estimated one-fifth the amount of radiation as the 1986 accident at Chernobyl”
The easiest way to approach the real situation in this statement is to change the first part of it with the last. Like this:
The 1986 accident at Chernoby, which spewed an estimated one-fifth the amount of radiation as the Fukushima plant disaster
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This is an act of total desperation.
Tepco is out of business. The Japanese economy is dead. The government has no plan. Food is contaminated. The people are panicking. The elites and intellectuals and companies are leaving the country.
This single nuclear accident will cost more money than exists on earth to fix properly, so it won’t be fixed.
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Just like when the head of BP said to the people of the gulf, “we’re gonna make this all good”…HOW?
Buy some dolfins, purchase uncontaminated water from walmart and replace the mess you made…it’s impossible. You can’t undo the distruction!
Does making it all good mean parting with a small percentage of BP profits to throw at the sick and dying so they can pay for their own burial?
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“This single nuclear accident will cost more money than exists on earth to fix properly, so it won’t be fixed. ”
James2, you have said what I think is the most concise description of where we are in this disaster. Containing this horror would bankrupt civilisation.
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And NOT containing it will kill off all civilization and all living organisms.
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“The total release amounts to 36 PBq, which equals 40% of the Chernobyl emissions.”??????????
I must have missed something?
“largest delivery of radiation into the ocean ever seen”
http://enenews.com/chernobyl-expert-fukushima-largest-delivery-radiation-ocean-dont-released
radioactive xenon from Fukushima more than double Chernobyl — Largest in history
http://enenews.com/just-in-nilu-study-release-of-radioactive-xenon-from-fukushima-is-more-than-double-chernobyl-largest-in-history-started-immediately-after-quake
Japan allows 20 times more cesium in drinking water than near Chernobyl
http://enenews.com/radiation-safety-expert-radioactivity-limits-set-high-after-fukushima-japan-allows-20-times-cesium-drinking-water-belarus-chernobyl
Radiation from Fukushima exceeds Chernobyl — Now at level unknown to humans
http://enenews.com/oregon-paper-radiation-fukushima-exceeds-chernobyl-level-unknown-humans-machines-august-leakage-maxed-measuring-equipment
Fukushima ‘worse’ than Chernobyl
http://enenews.com/experts-possibility-of-evacuating-parts-of-tokyo-can-no-longer-be-ignored-fukushima-worse-than-chernobyl-video
A situation that mankind has never faced before
http://enenews.com/kyoto-u-expert-melted-fuel-may-have-sunk-into-ground-we-are-now-head-to-head-with-a-situation-that-mankind-has-never-faced-before
[Statements by former Japanese Prime Minister Kan Naoto]
“If the power company [TEPCO] had pulled out of the facility and left nuclear fuel unattended, the cooling water would have dried out within dozens of hours and the meltdown of reactors would have occurred.” (Lucky for the Japanese it was just a few small hydrogen explosions then!)
“If this had been the case, radioactive materials SEVERAL or even DOZENS of times as much as those leaked in Chernobyl would have leaked”
http://enenews.com/strange-former-japan-leader-meltdown-fukushima-reactors-released-several-times-radiation-chernobyl-dozens-times
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radiation levels exceeding most contaminated zone in Chernobyl
http://enenews.com/nhk-special-researchers-find-radiation-levels-exceeding-contaminated-zone-chernobyl-called-red-forest-video
more nuclear fuel damaged at Fukushima than all other reactor accidents in history combined
http://enenews.com/nuclear-fuel-damaged-fukushima-all-other-reactor-accidents-history-combined-video
Large city 60 km from meltdowns has 3-4 times radiation levels at which Soviets evacuated
http://enenews.com/unbelievable-large-city-60-km-meltdowns-radiation-3-4-times-level-soviets-evacuated-everyone-radiation-hotspots-500-700-times-normal-video
Worst industrial catastrophe in world history
http://enenews.com/they-lied-to-us-radiation-release-comparable-to-chernobyl-total-core-meltdown-in-all-3-reactors-worst-industrial-catastrophe-in-world-history-cnn-video
20 times total Chernobyl release
http://enenews.com/report-fukushima-reactor-water-be-144-times-radioactive-anticipated-be-20-times-radioactive-material-total-chernobyl-released
60 million curies of radiation released from Fukushima — 50 million curies at Chernobyl
http://enenews.com/60-million-curies-radiation-released-fukushima-50-million-curies-chernobyl
90 times higher than Chernobyl evacuation threshold
http://enenews.com/radiology-experts-find-up-to-45-microsievertshour-near-school-zone-90-times-higher-than-chernobyl-evacuation-threshold
no doubt Fukushima dwarfs Chernobyl
http://enenews.com/theres-no-doubt-fukushima-dwarfs-chernobyl-going-to-yield-more-than-a-million-cancers-video
on and on and on………..
Thought there was a couple of articles saying something about Fukushima being about .0000000019 Chernobyl’s to about 1000,000,000…..The thing we have to remember is “divide,multiply,subtract then find C and divide by the multiple and square your subtract to find B then its just a matter dividing C by B to the power of subtractions of D, and there’s your answer……It really is that…
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…..simple! Nothing to it really? Hope everyone understands now as I was maybe a little confused myself,sort of a touch out in and a bit down and over ‘n’ round the square about the amount of radiation released from Fukushima and how it contributed to the environment? You guys get my frustration!!
Sorry for that, but made me feel lots better!
Peace
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Great list of links!
Kudos
I think TEPCO is just “following orders” and it is the Japanese Gov’t. that is now calling the PR shots; SURE EVERYTHING IS UNDER CONTROL, under the control of Nature N☢T man…
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Hey Cap’n D! Love the little nuke symbol. How did you get that to work?
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Toadmac, did you send the links to the AP editors? Maybe they should see those articles if they haven’t already done so. I’d definitely post that info. on the AP site as a response to their dis-info. At least you could help educate the public about the extent of the radiation releases, and the risk.
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THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ HAS SPOKEN! Yet you guys won’t be fooled. LOL. We have seen oz on all fours spewing his guts as his butt crack is revealed, wasn’t a purdy sight. Just because he flushed the toilet, cleaned the seat, and wiped his mouth, doesn’t erase our memories of the horrible display.
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“Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda said last week that temperatures inside the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant’s three melted reactor cores are almost consistently below the boiling point”
So he admits they reach boiling point from time to time, right?
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How about the wording in the article, ” … but facility still leaks some radiation.” SOME radiation? Isn’t there evidence large amounts of radiation are still being released? What about the highly contaminated radioactive water seeping and being dumped into the Pacific Ocean?
‘Sounds like AP is trying to do another snow job on the unsuspecting public. Maybe their writers are completely uninformed as to the true state of the plant, in which case this article is a terrible example of journalism. Maybe it’s deliberate dis-information.
I think TPTB really want us all lulled back into sleep. Just keep drinking your fluoridated water, taking your Prozac and anti-anxiety meds, don’t worry, be happy.
There is too much at stake for the nuke industry and the nuclear war industry, right now. They can ill afford to let the truth be known.
Circle the wagons, boys!
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