Published: June 30th, 2011 at 8:18 pm ET
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Crews Battle NM Fire, Which Pushes Into Canyon, Associated Press, July 1, 2011:
An erratic northern New Mexico wildfire grew larger Thursday — pushing north while also creeping into a canyon that descends into Los Alamos — as fire officials remained hopeful that they could halt the spread of the blaze before it reached town.
Los Alamos County Fire Chief Doug Tucker noted that conditions in the area are so dry that the fire, which had charred nearly 145 square miles, was burning downed trees that were scorched in the huge Cerro Grande fire in 2000.
“We’re seeing fire behavior that I’ve never seen before,” Tucker said.
The fire also burned through moisture-rich aspen trees above Los Alamos, allowing the fire to push into a canyon that descends from that mountain into town [...]
Published: June 30th, 2011 at 8:18 pm ET
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Well, folks, if the fire has indeed already reached the plutonium barrels, this may be their f&cked up way of slow releasing the news…
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True always like this honesty after the fact and to react badly is just immature or hysterical I mean it already happened! Notice to the fire chief states that the fire is behaving in ways HE HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE>>>> can u say HAARP??
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What happens when fire hits a canyon, generally speaking.
Do winds travel down canyons like a giant blow gun?
Need some science here …
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Is it not ironic how “Home of the Brave” requires news to be baby fed to them? They can’t tell their supposedly “Brave” citizens exactly what the hell is going on. They have to slowly trickle out obscure news hinting at major problem.. don’t want the “Brave” citizens to erupt in mass panic.
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“Los Alamos County Fire Chief Doug Tucker noted that conditions in the area are so dry that the fire, which had charred nearly 145 square miles, was burning downed trees that were scorched in the huge Cerro Grande fire in 2000.
We’re seeing fire behavior that I’ve never seen before”
is it possible that an experienced fire chief would claim that fire behaviour is unique to this wildfire?? will any of the toxins in this area have any strange effects on fire as he didnt really describe any detail i suppose that a large dose of conjecture might be needed….still a strange comment when taken in context??
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Yes, I caught that too. He seemed quite adamant that the fire behaviour was “strange” in that it was burning stuff that had already been burnt.
So, how do we find out if there is any contamination in that area already? I would suggest looking at cancer incidence rates, as one way:
Los Alamos Cancer Rate Study: Phase I
Cancer Incidence in Los Alamos County, 1970-1990
http://www.doeal.gov/SWEIS/OtherDocuments/313%20athas1993.pdf
Several cancers showed distinct temporal patterns of increasing incidence. Most notable was the marked increase in thyroid cancer incidence observed in the mid-1980s.
Thyroid cancer incidence in Los Alamos County during 1986-1990 was nearly four-times higher than that observed in the New Mexico state reference population.
Based on the findings of the Phase I incidence study, a Phase 11 study was recommended which would include continued surveillance of cancer among county residents and a feasibility assessment of conducting analytical epidemiology studies to
investigate causes of the elevated thyroid cancer incidence in Los Alamos County.
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useful link there..thanks @pu239…peace
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Los Alamos, NM Web Cam
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s1213237.shtml
Map of location
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&xhr=t&q=bradbury+science+museum&cp=23&rlz=1R2SKPB_enUS370&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1366&bih=606&wrapid=tljp130948039994000&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl
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Watch real time streaming of the Los Alamos skate park located in front of the Mesa Public Library.
http://168.103.101.80/adrv/fullonair.html
Los Alamos Airport Webcam
http://www.lam.aero/webcam
Didn’t work in IE, works if Firefox.
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Nobody uses IE, and nobody should.
(Try doing web development to keep IE happy – not fun).
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Depending on the direction of the wind and the direction of the canyon, this could be way worse… but if there’s no wind for a while and the fire breaks out of that canyon and gets more wind, it will erupt.
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“Los Alamos County Fire Chief Doug Tucker noted that conditions in the area are so dry that the fire…”
I have noticed that it is amazing how often during these really big events someone with just the right name for the job seems to be in position to take the fall.
Seriously, think about that name!
“Fire Chief Dog Tucker”. Here in NZ we have a saying for someone taking on a situation he cannot handle. “He’s Dog Tucker!”
I hope this is not a signal from the powers that be as to how this debacle will turn out.
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They should be calling in EVERY extra firefighter and wildfire expert in the entire nation!!! hello? What is this? The risks are too extreme to do a Katrina-FEMA or BP special on this one!!! WTH
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This is about the time when “officials” state that things are “worse than originally anticipated” and that “no one could have predicted…”. This will be followed by “full Senate” launched investigations into the Plutonium smoke cloud that killed 230,000 American people.
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