Published: August 7th, 2012 at 3:54 am ET
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Title: Tepco Weighed Using Firearms to Avoid Fukushima Explosion
Source: Bloomberg
Author: By Tsuyoshi Inajima and Yuji Okada
Date: Aug 7, 2012 1:24 AM ET
As the first hydrogen explosion rocked the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501) officials scrambled to prevent a second blast, at one point weighing the use of firearms to shoot a hole in the reactor building to release the pressure.
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Officials were discussing methods to release hydrogen gas building up inside the facility housing the No. 3 reactor after the first explosion rocked the No. 1 unit on March 12, 2011. Videos show officials considering the use of firearms and a helicopter to drop an object into the reactor housing to make a hole, with those who proposed the actions at one point suggesting they may sound “wild” or “absurd.”
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Some in the U.S. government were coming up with similar plans:
- WaPo: US gov't emails reveal serious discussion of setting off explosives at Fukushima reactor
- Kyodo: U.S. eyed blasting hole in Fukushima reactor with military explosives -- Reflected sense of alarm within gov't over cooling failure
Published: August 7th, 2012 at 3:54 am ET
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Well, a cowboy or two at the NRC was suggesting the same damn thing. Amazing how quickly the human IQ can drop under pressure.
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Yes…!!!!
Understanding and therefore should be banned as dangerous atomic energi. This is the primary reason to do so.
Knowing this gave my five cents, and unless helped….
http://www.powermag.com/blog/index.php/2011/03/14/a-short-history-of-nuclear-power-in-japan/
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and to think Vic, this is in a country that has the strictest gun control regulations in the world! So much for restricting firearms to those in 'authority'…
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This article is disinformation by misdirection, reaffirming the official line that #3 exploded in an identical way to #1, i.e. hydrogen explosion.
See the link to Ian Goddard's analysis, concluding it was a core steam explosion from the molten corium mixing with water in the primary and secondary containment vessels. Only it explains the size, shape, and origin the fireballs and smoke and subsequent leaks in the top of the PCV where steam continues to come from.
It's far and away the most persuasive explanation, but it's ignored by the MSM because in such an explosion both uranium and plutonium are expelled (of course there's ample evidence of that, both spiking at the time of the explosion, both found up to ca. 100 km away.
So we can debate this firearms topic to death, or look at what the magician's other hand's doing meanwhile.
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I should clarify that the core steam explanation doesn't rule out H2 accruing and a hydrogen explosion occuring also, but that's not what the explosion that destroyed the reactor was.
A simple viewing of the two explosions alone (1&3) should be sufficient evidence of the difference in magnitude and type; but that a c-s explosion spews part of the core itself out into the environment is worrisome enough for the probability of that to merit suppression.
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Not that i'm a nuke expert, far from it. But, what about installing, during the building phase of a reactor, a system that will suck away excess hydrogen when it is needed?
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"Gundersen: Slowly over the last couple of weeks the hydrogen has continued to build up inside the containments…
It’s coming from the bombardment of water from all the radiation that’s in the core. So a radioactive particle that’s just h20 splits to crank out the hydrogen.
It was incredibly low, now it’s up to about half a percent hydrogen.
So the trend is worrisome.
It has to get to 4% though… before it explodes.
So there’s still a margin to prevent an explosion.
So the trend, why is the hydrogen going up, is worrisome…"
Can hydrogen be requested to give away progressively by using such a method, similar to the disposal of teh hydrogen when charging?
http://bater.home.pl/www1/langs/bater.pl/en/recombination-plug.html
Anything to the atmosphere, you don't need to sit in the application of this method. Everything is in the reactor, and the hydrogen is not…
Nothing to allow passage to the atmosphere.
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This reactor was designed with pressure relief. Unfortunately, the valve is electrically operated.
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Safety valve should be opened mechanically by the safety recommendations, i.e. be open after pressing springs. If someone designed it as an electrical engineering art, this is an error. I know that after the Tree Island with this valve was a hassle.Someone wanted to stop the boiling of water in this manner, not anything with the Rector may explode. .
The worst that is designed by engineers. whose IQ is so low that, until the fear, because this project was not under "influence of pressure"
Interesting how even such "details" we propose, through the safety experts.
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shooting firearms at a reactor Just shows you that there are really no SAFETY Standards and ways to Control The Godzilla. Man builds nuclear and is unable to keep the monster in the bottle. Seems all safeties failed along the whole line and process.
lets examine something Tidal waves did not damage the generators they were just never used tested or worked from the day they were put in. some newspaper articles from the beginning of the year. IF MAN is going to play with the monster THEY BETTER GET OUT OF THE POLITICS which have ruined safety,fire protection standards and took a soft sell to put in the Monster.
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Yes Markww,
if we on enenews have to think about mechanical valves, it shows me the powers in place have shoved us a safety myth through our throats that we have to swallow, whether we like it or not.
This also raises the question how many nuke reactors have electrical powered valves as potential dangers of blow outs due to hydrogen build ups?
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Is a security clearance required to fill this position?
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Tepco mngmt. should consider pointing some firearms to themselves.
Freaks.
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LOL! B&B.. You just made me snort! Haa-haa!
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+100%!
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The Japanese government needs to end the existence of Tepgo!!
Privatized nuclear disasters shows management of the worst kind by the government!
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Like a "bunker buster bomb" or something?
Wowsers…
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The US has just the thing for that!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9432782/US-bunker-buster-bomb-ready-to-go.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHKkzuU2qtE
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Sharp2197,
I must agree a BLU-109 will vent the containment vessel and ignite the hydrogen.
A MOB would be a bit too much to ask for.
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Sure thing. Any explosive used to 'blast' a hole in the containment vessel would light off the hydrogen. A single little spark would light off the hydrogen.
These people continue to show how completely incompetent they all are. And we allow them to run nuclear reactors?
They sound like little kids. Crazy.
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bloody terrorists is what they are!
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Or even better,designing a hydrogen release valve that actually works without electricity…
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Good idea… Just a simple drop door design on the roof with manual levers to activate. But just designing such a popoff valve indicates the huge danger to humans from a damaged nuclear reactor. Even an undamaged reactor leaks toxic gas every time the containment vessel is opened. MOX fuel being especially bad. I imagine that when nuclear assemblies are reloaded the absentee rate skyrockets that day.
Would be fun to request those sets of data… Reload dates and daily absentee figures.
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It seems to me that a "Containment" building should withstand a rifle bullet, or something dropped from a helicopter?
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"the use of firearms to shoot a hole in the reactor building to release the pressure"
Sounds like USA's solution to conflict and foreign policy. If it/they won't comply, shoot or bomb it/them.
WTF…As usual, the wrong folks are in charge.
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ROFL!
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Shortly after Fuk4 explosion, Luke Skywalker and Han Solo were detected on radar flying home to Geneva Switzerland. All life on planet earth has been saved from a massive explosion equivalent to hundreds of 50 megaton bombs. Do you really think this scenario has not been rehearsed over and over again? Almost happened north of Omaha last year. But, in Omaha we had a lot going for us. Off site power, on site power, and plenty of flowing water if needed
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Why do they always come up with stupid ideas? It's a sort of idea that might come up in one of those episodes of the Simpsons.
Mr Burns: "Oh yeah!? Lets shoot!"
Homer (Safety Inspector lol): "D'oh! I shot and blew up the whole lot, what do I do now?"
- In the past, they've used sawdusts to block a hole so that contaminated water doesn't escape. *eye roll*
- They laid the concrete on the sea floor supposedly to *hide* the contamination while radioactive water is damped into the sea daily. *eye roll roll*
…and do you remember, a drone crashed on the roof :O
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GlowInTheDark asks,
"Why do they always come up with stupid ideas?"
Have you seen the media they watch on TV? The animations?
lol, They shot at Godzilla when it(?) stepped up outta the ocean, and look what happened there.
A society based upon unquestionably obeying the authorities, is dumbfounded when the authorities don't know what to do…
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