Japan parliament releases Fukushima report: Disaster was “clearly manmade” — Evidence quake damaged safety equipment, not tsunami

Published: July 5th, 2012 at 1:49 am ET
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Japan parliament to release Fukushima probe report
BBC News
July 4, 2012

A Japanese parliamentary panel is to release its report into the handling of the nuclear disaster at Fukushima, after months of hearings.

[...]

Guardian reporter Justin McCurry’s tweet at 1:10a ET

Independent investigation into Fukushima says accident was “clearly manmade” – the result of collusion between govt, regulators & Tepco.

Guardian reporter Justin McCurry’s tweet at 1:15a ET

Fukushima commission report: evidence that the earthquake, not tsunami, damaged safety equipment on 11 March 2011; calls for 3rd party probe

Full story will appear on the Guardian website later. In the meantime, read all McCurry’s tweets on the report here

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Subscription Only: Fukushima disaster caused by man
AGI
July 5, 2012

The disaster in the nuclear power station of Fukushima was caused in part by man and not only by the earthquake and subsequent tsunami [...] “It is clear that this incident was caused by man,” states one of the conclusions of the report.

“Governments, regulation authorities and TEPCO failed to show a sense of responsibility to protect people’s lives and society”

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95 comments to Japan parliament releases Fukushima report: Disaster was “clearly manmade” — Evidence quake damaged safety equipment, not tsunami

  • johnnyo

    And please no more clap trap about selling your car. Remove your heads from the sand and listen…….can you here them……your great, great grandchildren are pleading with you….

    "Please, for the love of God, stand up, get in the streets, risk life, limb ……prison, torture and death….our planet needs you NOW to end this madness of raping and pillaging everything in the name of profit. It is beyond obscene and must end, we are begging you"


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Man can't control nuclear reactors, no matter what.

    Three Mile Island .. equipment malfunction, human error.

    Chernobyl .. human error.

    Fukushima .. earth quake.

    Add a country, (your guess). And make up a cause, (your guess).

    Add a country, (your guess). And make up a cause, (your guess).

    Add a country, (your guess). And make up a cause, (your guess).

    Etc, etc, etc.


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    • richard richard

      yeah right. i wont follow that link without any supporting material for such a statement of denial.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      desmo99, with all due respect, we've been having this "argument" for over a year now. The evidence (videos of the quake from all over Japan), pictures of structures that are clearly quake damaged, etc. say the earthquake clearly did happen.

      Seismographic records from all over the world clearly can't lie. If the EQ was caused by something other than natural earthquake causes, that would have shown up in the seismic wave patterns.

      Something had to have generated the tsunami, and the earthquake was the logical cause. You cannot get media sources and those independently corraborating the event to simultaneously lie and fabricate such an event. Can't happen.

      I suggest you visit seismological sites from all over the world and view their data on this event, if you need to be convinced it happened. USGS is a good place to start, and they have the historical data. You might also be able to find it on Red Puma, a Swiss seismological website.

      If the earthquake didn't happen, then the Japanese had a mass hallucination which is also unlikely, unless they collectively ate some very bad mushrooms.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        There are hypotheses out there stating the EQ was caused by HAARP, that the Israelis planted Stuxnet at Fukushima over a secret enriched fuel deal that went bad, etc. — but they are all hypotheses. Until or unless someone reveals the "smoking gun" showing cause and effect for any of these hypotheses — that is what they will remain.


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        • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

          No clear proof that Fuku was not a natural EQ, or that nuke bombs generated the tsunami, or that Stuxnet gave false readings until reactors went boom. I agree, Taters. Without more proof, this is where matters stand. For now.


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          • HoTaters HoTaters

            It's not like Stuxnet or any of the other "exogenous" factors were needed to cause this mess. Fukushima was an accident waiting to happen. As are all other operating nuclear reactors in existence.


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            • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

              @HoTaters: I am impressed by the impartial analysis that you and philip have showed, here. I'd also add that I am disgusted by these unsubstantiated theories; which only serve to discredit those foolish enough to be seduced by such.

              Here's an extract from one of my earlier posts to someone selling STUXNET as the cause for the failures at Fukushima:

              "Unless you can substantiate such claims, why stop there? I personally think Raelians did it. There's been an ongoing internecine battle between Aum Shinrikyo and the Raelians for control of the planet. I'm still trying to figure out who's winning…"

              Those who perpetrate theories that cannot be substantiated, do so because they're simply impressionable, or worse, outright agents of disinformation. I cannot fault impressionable people for being so, as all are prone to believing in that which fits their (current) world view. But in the latter case, such disinformation is only used to keep the unwitting in a constant state of turmoil; thus preventing consensus on an issue.

              Other than exposing such invidious behavior for what it is, such is the nature of 'our' society. I would ask these 'purveyors of myth' to pause between keystrokes and ponder the repercussions of their actions; both on the world about them and upon those they value…

              …love you Taters!!!


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  • mungo mungo

    TEPCO repairing more reactors near Fukushima
    TOKYO —
    The operator of Japan’s tsunami-ravaged nuclear plant says it is repairing four reactors at a less-damaged nearby plant despite demands from local residents that it be scrapped.

    Community leaders have demanded that Tokyo Electric Power Co. decommission all reactors at both the badly damaged Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant and the nearby Fukushima Dai-ni plant.

    The Dai-ni plant was hit by a smaller tsunami and suffered less damage, but residents fear it is unsafe.

    TEPCO says it will decommission four reactors at the Dai-ichi plant. But TEPCO President Naomi Hirose said Wednesday it hasn’t decided on the fate of the Dai-ni plant.

    http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/tepco-repairing-reactors-near-fukushima


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  • mungo mungo

    this story about tepco report was actually the first bit of news on the bbcworldservice news this morning….but they still talk about this as if it is all over and done with, like it doesnt affect anyone now.


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    • Radio VicFromOregon

      mongo, you got that right. So what is a possible solution?


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      • eatliesndie eatliesndie

        aarrrrrrrrrrrrr! not a solution, but I feel just a little better. Money talks.


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      • GeoHarvey

        Solution: Shut them all down.
        You can't build a system that reduces the likelihood of human failure to zero, or even close to zero.
        The design basis says these reactors should have a core damage frequency of one event every 10,000 reactor years, for the old GE reactors, or one in 20,000 to 50,000 for the newer ones. But Max Planck Institute says the numbers are more like one in 633 for the old reactors or one in 1250 for the new.
        The reason the design basis is phoney is that it fails to take such things as mistakes and COLLUSION into account.
        COLLUSION! WOW! SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING WRONG!
        And guess what? Somebody will continue to do something wrong. Mistakes will continue to be made. And the only logical conclusion is that no matter how safe the plant is made, no matter what safety equipment is installed, no matter what backup systems are provided, the whole thing is, and always will be, too unsafe to operate.
        Nuclear power? It would be more logical to give specially chosen people special driver's licenses that allow them to drive intoxicated at any speed.


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        • eatliesndie eatliesndie

          "Nuclear power? It would be more logical to give specially chosen people special driver's licenses that allow them to drive intoxicated at any speed". Are you talking about the police highway patrol? Because they, and the nuclear industry, seem to be a law unto themselves.


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          • GeoHarvey

            No, but now that you mention it -
            Many, many times I have driven through Concord, Massachusetts on Route 3. Many, many times as I did so, I saw Massachusetts State Police cars pass me. After a while, I came to understand that the drivers NEVER obeyed the laws. They drove over the speed limit, failed to keep to the right, tailgated, and were generally rude. They were not off to some crime scene or accident – they were returning to the barracks.
            One day, I saw what looked like a police car come up behind me. The driver was in the right lane, within the speed limit, and did not tailgate. Finally, I though I had come across a courteous state trooper who obeyed the law he was supposed to be upholding. When the car turned, however, I realized it was a guard at the prison across the road from the barracks.
            There are two reasons nuclear plants are dangerous. One is that the people who run and regulate them do not obey or enforce the laws. The other is that they exist.
            We cannot make sure all people, including the cops, obey the law.
            Our only choice is SHUT THEM DOWN!


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    • richard richard

      yes mungo, i think it should read 'Dai-ni plant hasn’t decided on the fate of the Naomi Hirose"


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    • sadtexan

      It was the lead story on all three hours of BBC America's TV newscast. I was shocked to see it, frankly.

      My Tivo auto-recorded tonight's NBC Nightly News; nothing on that broadcast (zero surprise there) and I doubt it made any of the others.


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  • arclight arclight

    whats happenning at the guardian?? free speech! by Rob Edwards

    Record number of radioactive particles found on beaches near Sellafield
    Seven beaches contained 383 particles found in 2020-11

    "..But the HPA has also pointed to a series of "uncertainties" in the beach monitoring that could lead to its risk assessment being reviewed. The latest equipment might miss tiny specks that could be inhaled, it said, as well as buried alpha radioactivity that "could give rise to a significant risk to health if ingested".

    A local environmental group expressed concern that in some areas, particles seemed to reappear after they had been cleaned up. "This warrants closure of the beaches or at least the erection of warning signs for parents and others of the health dangers posed," said Janine Allis-Smith, from Cumbrians Opposed to a Radioactive Environment.

    Documents released under freedom of information law show that in 2010 the Environment Agency agreed that monitoring for contamination on the beaches should avoid peak periods such as during bank holidays. This followed a complaint from St Bees parish council expressing "strong concern that this would have an adverse impact on tourism.".."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jul/04/radioactive-particles-beaches-sellafield?intcmp=122

    and monbiot?

    "Monbiot says he was wrong on peak oil but the crisis is undeniable.."

    http://www.guardian.co


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  • arclight arclight

    a bit more from the report here here

    "..TEPCO was quick, however, to assign the accident cause to the tsunami, and state that the earthquake was not responsible for damage to equipment necessary for safety (although it did add, “to the extent that has been confirmed,” a phrase that also appears in TEPCO reports
    to the government and to the IAEA). However, it is impossible to limit the direct cause of the accident to the tsunami without substantive evidence. The Commission believes that this is an attempt to avoid responsibility by putting all the blame on the unexpected (the tsunami), as they wrote in their midterm report, and not on the more foreseeable earthquake…"

    so they were told by the IAEA to blame the tsunami because they are rare in turkey?? as well as other spots around the globe.. surely the reath nell for ALL reactors??

    GLASIFY AND BURY .. DONT BURN!!


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  • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

    “Governments, regulation authorities and TEPCO failed to show a sense of responsibility to protect people’s lives and society”

    They were, however, ever so focused on saving the nuke industry, shareholder equity, and cash flow from nuke industry to government employees. Criminals! (Change the word "TEPCO" to "nuclear industry", and the same could be said truthfully about the United States.).

    "So we lied? So what? What are you going to do about it?"
    "Ma, bring me my pitchfork. I got some business in town to take care of."


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  • GeoHarvey

    The cause of the nuclear accident was COLLUSION!

    Of course, this might make some people wonder whether the same thing could happen in the United States.

    I have heard many times, "It can't happen here." It is not probable, not even possible, that a tidal wave will destroy a nuclear plant on the banks of the Connecticut River.

    But could there be collusion on the banks of the Connecticut River?

    Could the NRC commissioners, who alone have responsibility for the radiological health and welfare of the citizens of the US, actually collude? [Expletive deleted.] [Another expletive deleted.] [Expletives will go on all day - I will just omit them all.]

    Things are not less sick in the US than they were in Japan. They are worse. In Japan, the local governments have enough authority that the central government has to browbeat them into submission. In the US, the local governments can object all they want – the NRC is deaf to protests, unless they come from within the industry.

    Can it happen here? IT DOES ALL THE TIME!


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    • many moons

      GeoHarvey, That's why we need to boycott energy…they will listen to that!!! They can't make us use energy….can they?

      Taking the stairs won't kill you….radiation will
      turning off the tv won't kill you…radiation will
      make your own list…use less energy and leave a healthy earth for your kids to enjoy.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        There have been all kinds of alternatives to nuclear for 20 – 30 years. In India, solar ovens were developed as an alternative to burning wood for fuel. (Example)

        In the U.S., we were well on our way to a nuclear free future when the incentives to move in that direction were taken away — in the early 1980's. IMHO it was a sad day for the U.S. It marked the beginning of a distinct technological and manufacturing decline, aside from the semiconductor/computer industry boom.

        U.S. industry was already challenged. The legal and government climate began to be distinctly unfriendly to industry and innovation around that time.

        Don't get me started on GATT and trade agreements, or what the central banks collectively did to wreck the economies of "first world" nations.

        We got ourselves into one gigantic mess in the G-20 countries, now we may not make it out alive (literally) ….


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  • arclight arclight

    Buddhist federation speaks out against nuclear power

    21 march 2012

    "The Japan Buddhist Federation has called for a society that does not depend on nuclear power not to repeat the mistake Buddhist organizations made during World War II by silently following government policies, its president said.

    “If we remain quiet, we will follow the same path, and Buddhist organizations will lose their significance of existence in Japanese society,” Taitsu Kono told The Asahi Shimbun in a recent interview…."

    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/views/opinion/AJ201203210053

    i remember a comment about religious leaders not stepping up to the task.. and who better to know the failings of their fellow man!
    peace


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  • arclight arclight

    IAEA: Japan 'underestimated,' so nuclear plant was overwhelmed when disaster struck

    A preliminary report from the atomic energy agency says Japan miscalculated the tsunami hazard, leading to meltdowns at the Fukushima Daiichi plant. But the report praises the nation's response to the March disaster as 'exemplary.'

    June 01, 2011|By John M. Glionna | Los Angeles Times

    Reporting from Seoul — Japan did not properly protect its nuclear plants against tsunami threats prior to the March 11 disaster that caused radiation to spew from the Fukushima Daiichi plant, a preliminary report released Wednesday by international nuclear experts concluded.

    "The tsunami hazard for several sites was underestimated," according to a three-page summary released by a United Nations nuclear safety team probing the aftermath of a magnitude 9.0 earthquake that triggered a nearly 50-foot-high wall of water, deluging the plant… blah blah"

    http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/01/world/fgw-japan-fukushima-report


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  • arclight arclight

    One Year On
    The Fukushima Nuclear Accident and Its Aftermath

    9 march 2012

    "..About 40 minutes after the Fukushima Daiichi reactors were shut down, several massive tsunami waves crashed over the six-Unit plant's protective wall, forcing seawater deep into the plant. Emergency generators and some of the associated electrical equipment were flooded. Thirteen generators ceased operating. Only one emergency generator survived the onslaught, providing power to Units five and six.

    The earthquake had already disrupted mobile and landline communication and now the on-rushing tsunami waters hurled debris into the plant, damaging equipment and buildings and blocking access…"

    "Radiation Monitoring

    Traveling with the Director General on his visit to Japan was the first of four radiological monitoring teams who helped validate the results of more extensive measurements made by the Japanese authorities…"

    so the iaea are responsible too! imo

    http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/2012/fukushima1yearon.html


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    • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

      "About 40 minutes after the Fukushima Daiichi reactors were shut down…several massive tsunami waves crashed over the six-Unit plant's protective wall"..

      Thanks arclight, always great links. Indeed they knew WHY the plants Shutdown 40 mins BEFORE the tsunami~!~


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      • arclight arclight

        the radiation monitoring bit wasnt very truthful either! :)


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        • arclight arclight

          Published on Mar 13, 2012 by criirad
          "..This video shows radiation levels on May 29th 2011, in Fukushima city (Japan) about 60-65 km from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear reactors.
          Measurements are made by a CRIIRAD scientist (Bruno. Chareyron, engineer in nuclear physics) during a meeting between CRIIRAD and Japanese citizens : M. Wataru Iwata (co-founder of Project 47 and CRMS) and persons in charge of the network "Fukushima Network for Saving Children from Radiation", including M. Nagate (ex-representative), Mrs Marumori (now Executive Director of CRMS) and Mrs Sato. CRIIRAD is sharing its experience of independent radiation monitoring with the Fukushima citizens.
          In this video, CRIIRAD researcher is using a gamma radiation detector (DG5 scintillometer) to show the intensity of radiation rates, even inside the office at floor level. Radiation rates are given in counts per second (c/s). With this device, normal values should be about 50 to 150 c/s depending on natural radiation.
          The powerful gamma radiations emitted by radioactive caesium … give a radiation rate about 10 times above normal values inside the building (at the centre of the office), and 15 times above near the window. This radiation will decrease only very slowly. After one year, the decrease should be about 23 % only.
          Additional info : look at http://www.criirad.org "

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLvoQKx9glE

          no IAEA in sight!


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Yes, Arc and MaidenHeaven, all the Enenewser's who have been saying the EQ set the accident in motion have been vindicated. Many of you here have said since the beginning the reactors were already in peril, and had begun to melt down, just after the EQ hit — and before the tsunami hit.

        You were right all along. Good to see your position is now publicly supported.

        To those who doubt Enenews is a serious source of information on the state of the nuclear crisis in Japan — take note.


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  • MaidenHeaven MaidenHeaven

    NEED TRANSLATION PLEASE.

    This Emergency correspondence between JP gov and Tepco right after 311 still has not been completely translated.

    I will include a partial translation from a commenter on Fukushima Diary.

    "On PDF Page 59 of document 1-8 we find: 4 x 10 mSv (per hour? I think so) at a distance of 0,28 km: http://www.scribd.com/doc/88568685/%E7%A6%8F%E5%B3%B6%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%8E%9F%E7%99%BA%E4%BA%8B%E6%95%85%E7%9B%B4%E5%BE%8C%E3%81%8B%E3%82%89%E3%81%AE%E7%8F%BE%E5%A0%B4%E3%81%A8%E6%94%BF%E5%BA%9C%E3%81%AE%E3%82%84%E3%82%8A%E5%8F%96%E3%82%8AFAX1-8 – which is exactly the the 40 mSv/h mentioned in this NRC correspondence on PDF page 15 (“There was a media report of a 40-rem dose measured somewhere near the plant.”): http://www.houseoffoust.com/fukushima/NRCFOIA/ML12052A106.pdf in my view, this speaks for brutal high radiation, if we take into account, that the air even weakens the concentration. This is 4 times the daily dose at a 1000 Curie per km² area, for example near Chernobyl reactor 4 / hot sport, with 37 mio becquerel per m² (map): http://life-upgrade.com/DATA/Chernobyl-map.jpg and I _think_ this speaks for the lost inventory of containment and inventory. Because it is also reactor fuel, that is all over there (494 Kg of Plutonium 239 was in the burnup fuel): Page 6 right top: http://life-upgrade.com/DATA/Artikel%20zu%20Tschernobyl%20in%20Nuclear%20Technology%20Vol%2090.pdf According to KAWATA Toumio, Fellow of the Nuclear Waste Management…


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  • huskydawg44

    I'm clearly late on this breaking news, but it was nice to see the article on my Yahoo! homepage…

    http://news.yahoo.com/japans-atomic-disaster-caused-collusion-panel-report-123455905.html


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  • weeman

    You must get help from outside source, as the report points out that the Japanese people are sub servant to your overlords and will not question authority, loyalty is one thing but you must not be blinded, you need free thinkers with no ties to authority, this is a world problem


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      And the 200,000 demonstrators against nuclear energy in Tokyo were doing what, Weeman? The Japanese ARE fighting their "overlords" but they're fighting a system with a massive amount of inertia.


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      • arclight arclight

        hi weeman
        theres been lots of protests for years and heres a video of the first post fukushima protest that i am aware off! peace and saikado hantai! :)

        Tokyo's anti-nuclear protesters

        Uploaded by NewsOnABC on Mar 15, 2011
        Is the damage to the image of nuclear power beyond repair in Japan?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgpZdMQouBc


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      • weeman

        I salute every one of them and thank them all.
        Keep it up continue to change direction, keep them on the run.

        The other week they had a share holder meeting all the main players were their, you had them, make a citizens arrest and fly them to the Hauge for crimes against humanity, if their is 200,000 of you should have no problem, private plane to Hauge.

        If the world want real change to society it will require massive sacrifice and cooperation from all, not just the Japanese.


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Great suggestion — arresting them for war crimes. Good thinking.


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          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Hmmn, I wonder what would need to be done to get them out of the country (extradited) for crimes against humanity.


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            • richard richard

              i'm not detracting from what you say, but it's more then 'crimes against humanity', it's ecocide.

              But I know you know that. I just like to clarify that the scope is far wider then just the concern for humans.

              Still a crime, but Ecodcide is a crime of even greater proportions then 'crimes against humanity'. If it doesn't exist yet, it needs to be created.


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              • HoTaters HoTaters

                Richard, I totally agree. The scale of this threatens every living thing on earth. And more than just the living. Were you responding to my comment when you mentioned ecocide?

                I don't know that I'm personally comfortable with using the term "ecocide" but certainly "biocide" which is more or less the same thing if you're referring to living things ….


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                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  Ecology being the relationship all living things have to one another. Hmmn … perhaps ecocide as a term is appropriate after all.

                  It's really difficult to wrap our minds around the scale of this thing, non?


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                • richard richard

                  hi HoTaters – yeah, look, it's a new word, a new issue.. I don't know what it is. There is probably some linquist that can define it better.

                  you're right, it could be biocide, they are both the same term I think, addressing the destruction of flora, fauna and Earth itself.

                  it's eco for the earth, and i suppose bio for the flora.fauna – either way, time will tell what the word is I suppose.

                  I'm certainly open to suggestions, we have discussed it a little before here on enenews.

                  My point was/is that more then just humanity is being affected. Thank you as always for the discussion.


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                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    Actually, Richard, ecocide fits the situation. I wasn't aware Ecology as a discipline includes everything in the web of life on earth.

                    Whatever they have unleashed, it is a monster and it is not of the realm of naturally created things of earth.


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                    • HoTaters HoTaters

                      Abomination is the correct word for such a monster.


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                    • richard richard

                      a bomb in a nation


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                    • HoTaters HoTaters

                      OK, I figured out what bothers me about the term ecocide. It's that it's a part of a global governance plan. That is, on Wikipedia ecocide is defined as the concept of protecting the global ecological commons.

                      I'm opposed to global governance. The term in itself (the concept) makes sense, but the idea of moving toward a global government and giving up national sovereignty is not something I'm comfortable with ….

                      Somehow it's desirable those responsible for this disaster are brought to justice. But how?


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                    • richard richard

                      ok Taters, i'm with you on that if the word has already been stolen for global governance. I don't have an immediate answer, will have to think about that for awhile..


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  • HoTaters HoTaters

    No preliminary waves preceding the slow wave portion of an earthquake may indicate an explosion caused the quake.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      BTW, to which earthquake or earthquakes are you referring, johnnyo?


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      • johnnyo

        ok, i'll admit, i look at all kinds of "crazy" websites.

        there is some talk out there that the Virginia earthquake was not natural: no PWaves, very shallow, not an active fault zone, many anomalies i dont claim to fully understand enough to accept or discount. Some sites stop there.

        Others go on to point out that the Colorado one of (12hours previous?) the night before was also non natural(explosion…nukes?) and coincidently at the same latitude. The story goes, (the elite, FEMA, Rex 81, reptillian shapeshifters, illuminati, some entity) has massive underground tunnels and living quarters stocked to the gills. The 2 points(CO & VA) were main terminals.

        One version of the story goes….White Hats(good guys) in the Pentagon and elsewhere are waging a war against the evil group that planned to ruin earth's surface and survive underground. A large contingent of evil forces were on the run east to west. When CO end blew up, they began to retreat back east when VA blew, trapping/killing them.

        Some versions imply only different groups of humans against each other, others go that extra mile and insist other worldy forces to be involved on both sides.

        Sorry to not have precise names of sites and links but Google will get u to everything I have read, as it did me.

        I do not claim to believe any of it. But in this insane world, the sane man appears crazy.


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        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          @JO: "I do not claim to believe any of it." Then, I'm curious as to why you're posting this stuff…


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          • richard richard

            I've been watching you guys jousting for a while now. I can at least say we are all on the same side. I didn't want to enter in before, but I just want to add..

            Some of what johnnyo is raising can help to think outside of the box, and that's one thing in life that I've often used and encouraged.

            It may not be on the right track. (In fact, I'm sure there are faults across many of our collective argumnets). But it can help.

            I recall coming across some of this material many years ago. It did get me thinking beyond the current political scape. There was a time where I looked at the angle of 'reptilian' over-throw.

            (I know you might think I'm crazy to couch those thoughts, but bear with me).

            By rationalising down from the extreme, I have drawn my conclusion that it is literally organised criminals behind the scenes that are creating this chaos.

            The 'reptiles' made me realise something unusual was at the controls. But as it can't actually be reptiles, I brought the concept down to earth. I wondered what kind of human cares less about their community and environmnent and only places them selves as their foremost concern. It's a criminal who'll steal candy from a baby, because it's easy, cost them nothing, and they get the satisfaction of eating the spoils. Too bad that the child is crying and the parent has to go and earn more money to by more candy – not the criminals problem.

            Anyway, I've raved on again. AS has a strong point though, back up…


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Hmmn … no precursor waves on the signature of an earthquake (seismographic data) may indicate a nuclear explosion — or a large explosion of some other type. When I read the report on the Virginia earthquake, I thought it sounded suspicious. Beyond that, I have no idea what happened there. But odd indeed if true.

          Confession — I look at a lot of those same "conspiracy" websites. I tend to view the reports with what is called a jaundiced eye.

          There are truly conspiracies afoot. Many of those shouting "conspiracy theorist" are the conspirators themselves. Case in point, who has been shouting "terror, terror, terror" for over a decade now?


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Rex 84 was supposed to address the continuity of government in the U.S. I think I heard or read some discussion of underground bunkers built for government officials in connection with that, years ago. NORAD in Colorado has had such bunkers (gigantic, just gigantic) for a long, long time.


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  • Ron

    Perhaps most disturbing in nuke industry rationalizations is what is missing from them. Where is the responsibility? Where are the apologies? Where is the concern for the health and welfare of their victims? Instead, it's clear that the industry place it's own welfare far above that of human life and the environment.

    "Across the board, the commission found ignorance and arrogance unforgivable for anyone or any organisation that deals with nuclear power. We found a disregard for global trends and a disregard for public safety." “Governments, regulation authorities and TEPCO failed to show a sense of responsibility to protect people’s lives and society”
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jul/05/fukushima-meltdown-manmade-disaster
    http://www.agi.it/english-version/world/elenco-notizie/201207050757-cro-ren1007-fukushima_disaster_caused_by_man


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  • arclight arclight

    Fukushima fault: ‘Man-made disaster' could have been prevented

    "Although triggered by these cataclysmic events, the subsequent accident at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant cannot be regarded as a natural disaster," the report continued."

    http://www.rt.com/news/fukushima-nuclear-disaster-report-459/

    they word the reports just right for all… even ROSATOM ?? :)

    no emphasis on the word earthquake? lol!


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  • islandboy9

    Hey everyone, SFP4 building is GONE!!!!!!
    Checkout http://www.YouTube.com/livecamera checker


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    If you do not know the meaning of such things, you are lost inside the Force.

    The Force is only based on the bright light and purity of truth and knowledge.

    Lack of purity, allows for the resultant police state controlled and apparently "brain dead" societies and similar cultures that now surround us all.

    conspiracy |kənˈspirəsē|
    noun ( pl. -cies)
    a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful : a conspiracy to destroy the government. See note at plot .
    • the action of plotting or conspiring : they were cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.
    PHRASES
    a conspiracy of silence an agreement to say nothing about an issue that should be generally known.
    ORIGIN late Middle English : from Anglo-Norman French conspiracie, alteration of Old French conspiration, based on Latin conspirare ‘agree, plot’ (see conspire ).
    collusion |kəˈloō zh ən|
    noun
    secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, esp. in order to cheat or deceive others : the armed forces were working in collusion with drug traffickers | collusion between media owners and political leaders.
    • Law such cooperation or conspiracy, esp. between ostensible opponents in a lawsuit.
    DERIVATIVES
    collusive |-siv; -ziv| |kəˈlusɪv| adjective
    collusively |-sivlē; -zivlē| |kəˈlus1vli| adverb
    ORIGIN late Middle English : from Latin collusion-, from colludere ‘have a secret agreement’ (see collude ).


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  • vital1

    If my understanding of this report is correct, the cause of this disaster was wide spread corruption in the Japanese government, the Japanese nuclear regulator and Tepco, or this disaster would not have happened.

    If this is the truth there should be lots of corrupt people in prison for killing lots of men, women and children and causing a huge loss of private property.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Wisdom is knowing where to look for the truth and sadly with the current 16 million top secret documents generated every year in the USA, all we see is conspiracy and collusion everywhere and its now operating on a very large grand scale.

    Pay attention, as things might be reaching a tipping point in the very near future. Listen closely to exactly what this man is saying and maybe he is simply letting the cat out of the bag for all those that understand English.

    There is so much information that we are not privy too and this volume of information is now growing exponentially. Just what are our prestigious scientists up to these days? Fill in the gaps..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67fPHOYqD3w&feature=youtu.be


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  • islandboy9

    SFP4 building is GONE!!!! sorry the correct link is http://www.youtube.com/user/jnnlivecam YES, reactors123 are on the far left of the screen. According to fukushima reporter YOICHI SHIMATSU SFP4 building COLLASPED 06/25 and jnnlivecam supports the statement. PLEASE search the livecam archives from the month of MAY when UNIT 4 building was 10 stories high SFP 40 foot deep six stories up. So watch it from May to present and view the EROSION!!!!Try from MARCH AND APRIL TOO….


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  • RichardPerry

    Fukushima damage was done by natures earthquake and tsunami because men at top level wanted to save money at any risk. This will always happen when big dollars are involved, all plants around the world are in jeopardy and they ignore the risk. They know many plants are at risk from earthquakes and they ignore the lessons at Fukushima because the standards needed to build plants are too costly for the industries competiveness. Only answer is to start the shutdown of all plants as soon as possible. What will the safety be for plants in Asia with bribes paid to inspectors.


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