Published: June 25th, 2012 at 4:24 pm ET
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The biggest bulge reported by Tepco in May 2012 was 33 mm. The biggest bulge now being reported is 46 mm.
Tepco’s latest data regarding the bulge in the No. 4 reactor building with translated summary by Fukushima Diary:
Tepco revised the data of the reactor4 building on 6/25/2012
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The South-West corner of reactor4 building turned out to be bulged/leaned to outward.
The third floor is 46mm outward compared to the first floor. On their last report, it was 33mm.
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Published: June 25th, 2012 at 4:24 pm ET
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How does something as brittle as concrete bulge?
Normally it would just boggle my poor little mind.
Not so here. It is too scary to confuse me. It rivets my attention and makes me wonder about the people running this show, instead of the physical and chemical science of concrete.
What is wrong with these people? Do they really want to start up more nuclear plants and try for a replay of this mess?
Personally, I think corporate, military, or political leader should all be required to write letters to their great grandchildren, explaining why they felt it was okay to make a mess for someone else to clean up later:
Dear Little Nodas of the Future;
I started these reactors just so you could play in the dust and glow prettily in the dark…
Perhaps we should all be satisfied with less than the obscene amounts of consumer products we have been educated to regard as a right.
Sorry – I am ranting.
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Continue to rant…
Our Leaders are ALL in Nuclear Denial*….
* http://is.gd/XPjMd0
The illogical belief that Nature cannot destroy any land based nuclear reactor, any place anytime 24/7/365!
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And what is the likelihood that nature will destroy something?
Do you suppose it might be 100%?
Try this out for size. Westinghouse claims its new AP1000 nuclear reactor has a maximum core damage frequency of 2.41 × 10−7 per plant per year.
With a little math, we can conclude that if 415 AP1000 reactors were put into service, we could expect one meltdown in 100,000 years. Pretty safe, wouldn't you say? (Grrr!)
What is the margin of error for the calculation that produced this figure? What was the margin of error in the calculation that put a 5.7 meter seawall at Fukushima? Did the engineers take into consideration the tsunami of 1933, with its maximum wave height of 26 meters? Did they take into consideration the tsunami of 1896, with its maximum wave of 36 meters? Or did the engineers make a mistake?
Did the engineers who calculated the core damage frequency of the AP1000 make any mistakes? As an engineer, I can tell you the probability that they made multiple mistakes is precisely 100%.
Mother nature has an almost infinite number of ways to destroy anything we build, and will do so regardless of either calculations or feelings.
I will admit that the likelihood of many of these possibilites is almost infinitely small.
What this means is that the actual likelihood of failure due to natural causes is a number approaching infinity divided by a number approaching infinity.
This number has no name – perhaps we could give it one: "Googoldygook." (A mantra for…
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By the way, speaking of financials. Solaria announced they were building an unsubsidized 60 MW photovoltaic farm in Spain next year, and expected to deliver electricity at $68 to $75 per MWh. The US DOE is projecting electricity from nuclear at $113.80 per MWh, not counting the costs of Price-Anderson liability, managing nuclear waste, loan guarantees, or tax incentives.
Why do we even consider allowing pro-nuclear corporations to continue their rape-pillage-burn campaign?
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You can find a link to the article at:
http://geoharvey.wordpress.com/
In the World section of June 25 News.
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Geoharvey, I quoted you and your wonderful blog HERE if it shows ;( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/karl-grossman/nuclear-energy-scientists_b_1610527.html?utm_hp_ref=green
I didn't know that about Solara. Thanks!
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Maybe we can survive after all.
What interesting times we live in.
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GeoHarvey…thank you so much for your brilliant information. Yape! Maybe homo-un-sapiens will survive after all. Think. Take away the "un," and we live.
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Severn Suzuki. Speech at Rio '92 environmental summit. Please listen to this inspiring and tragic (because those in charge did not listen) account of what is happening to our planet.
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/6/21/at_rio_20_severn_cullis_suzuki> begins at about 40' in.
And listen again to Democracy Now a couple of days later when they again interview her, and her father, David Suzuki.
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ELE events…Both Climate Change and Nuclear Destruction are possible ELE events. Severn
Suzuki speaks of Climate Change, but if you listen to her speach, you will know it is one and the same issue. It is the issue of human's being misguided.
We must change our values, our minds, our way of thinking.
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My math says that, no matter the odds, the likelyhood of a nuclear power plant failing and causing massive radioactive contamination, becomes 100%, when one of them fails…
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GeoHarvey, I'll rant too. The 26 meter tsunami was by no means the most severe in the past 200+ years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_tsunamis
Note all the ones in Japan. Quoted from the article:
"See also: Mount Unzen and 1792 Unzen earthquake and tsunami
Tsunamis were the main cause of death for Japan's worst-ever volcanic disaster, due to an eruption of Mount Unzen in Nagasaki Prefecture, Kyūshū, Japan. It began towards the end of 1791 as a series of earthquakes on the western flank of Mount Unzen …. In February 1792, Fugen-daké started to erupt, triggering a lava flow which continued for two months…. On the night of 21 May, two large earthquakes were followed by a collapse of the eastern flank of Mount Unzen's Mayuyama dome, causing an avalanche which swept through Shimabara and into Ariake Bay, triggering a tsunami…. The tsunami struck Higo Province on the other side of Ariake Bay before bouncing back and hitting Shimabara again. Out of an estimated total of 15,000 fatalities, around 5,000 are thought to have been killed by the landslide, around 5,000 by the tsunami across the bay in Higo Province, and a further 5,000 by the tsunami returning to strike Shimabara. The waves reached a height of 330 ft (100 m), classing this tsunami as a small megatsunami."
Note the use of the word "small", i.e., "small megatsunami."
What are they thinking?
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The Uranus-Pluto conjunctions of 1965-66 signaled and embedded the seeds for change. Now, for the next 3 years, We will experience the second stage of that soon; read it here: <http://www.opednews.com/articles/Uranus-and-Pluto-2012-Mid-by-Anne-Nordhaus-Bike-120624-509.html>
As Isaac Newton responded to those who blah-blahed & pooh-poohed his acceptance of astrology said, "I have studied the matter, Sir, and you have not." Give it a look.
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"Perhaps we should all be satisfied with less than the obscene amounts of consumer products we have been educated to regard as a right."
No, you got that right.
http://climatechange.thinkaboutit.eu/scripts/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/imagemanager/files/Lucy/minamata1.jpg
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Every once in a while, you find a beautiful picture of a horrifying reality. Thank you for that link.
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Here's another one to ponder:
http://www.ess.washington.edu/tsunami/greatwave.html
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+ a zillion
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They sure can. You have to realize that buildings such as these (and many roads and especially bridges) have an inner 'skeleton' of interwoven steel reinforcing rods. So even though the brittle concrete cracks the 're-rod' holds it together but can and will bend and bulge which OBVIOUSLY weakens the structure integrity severely.
This is why the bulge is growing in size and will likely continue to increase until the weight is removed from the top or it collapses completely
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Concrete really doesn't like vibrations (think jackhammers) but that is why they put steel and/or rebar inside the concrete to help it transfer and withstand flexing and vibrations or tall buildings and bridges would be falling down all the time. Concrete doesn't really like heat either, causes the cement to dehydrate and lose its binding properties.
Once becoming off center, gravity takes over. If they start bracing the walls to keep them in place, you can start worrying for real.
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Nice…
A nightmare in stopmotion.
h.
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I love science. I love reason. I love people. I love heroes. I love art. I love nature.
Once in a while, I have to rant because I find something so obscenely vile, so ugly, so careless of the damage it does, that I makes me very angry.
The Peter Principle was developed by a man who observed it in nuclear power plants. I will paraphrase it here:
Any dangerous but profitable activity will be used progressively more and more until it fails.
If it fails sufficiently rarely, it will have an opportunity to become very ubiquitous.
If it is sufficiently ubiquitous and sufficiently dangerous, it can produce failures that are widespread, even global.
But if it is sufficiently profitable, its promoters will put enough advertising money into it to make sure it lasts until it is too late to have any effect but to wipe us all out.
Human nature being what it is, people who want nuclear power would rather live in denial than face the fact that it is dangerous. That way, they can get rich while they are waiting for their Frankenstein monster to kill them.
But their descendants will suffer through a number of generations, cursing their ancestors for their greed.
Perhaps our generation will be the most cursed in history.
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Please Consider also ranting on Huffington Post, we need lots more ranters!
Here is a great place to start: http://is.gd/YQw3Mq
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May the best debator win.
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elnd…No. May what is best for sustaining life and the planet win.
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@dharmasyd. I of course agree with you. My point was, as well as being poorly stated – I can't stand debating. All it proves is who the best debator is. Some are good at it and can prove to others that white is black and black is white. There seems to be some ugly debating among the ranting at HP. I probably should have said nothing.
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yeah, i sometimes wonder if i should say nothing. doh, there i go again
(and your right on 'debating'
)
it's good for merchant bankers
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Hi eatliesndie
I totally understood what you said.
However, there is a positive side to debates, when it's between two people who know the facts and who has the proof that's needed.
I can see why people debate, it can change someone's thinking about nuclear power. If it changes one person's mind against it, it's worth it.
I'm like you, I am not a debater and I usually stay away from things like that. I just say what I think, and then it's your choice if you agree or not.
I'm human, I do appreciate it when people agree with me.
I'm not a debater, I'm more like a cheer leader with the people who are against nuclear power.
People who can debate, go get them. I would like to see more against nuclear power.
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Hi WindorSolarPlease . You are right, and to "People who can debate, go get them. I would like to see more against nuclear power.."
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Thank you eatliesndie..hands you one of my pompom..lol
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Science has already proven that life cannot be sustained in the face of massive amounts of radiation. There is already too much radiation in the environment.
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interesting info for anyone willing to post at HP
Current world-wide Fukushima fallout forecasts
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/nnn.html
rad monitoring, debris tracking and mitigation protocols
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/forum/index.php/board,24.0.html
for those with the urge to call
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
http://www.embassyworld.com/
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GH "Perhaps our generation will be the most cursed in history"
Spot on.
The increase in Cancer rates is a testimony to what you say.
And what a legacy is left behind for future generations, absolutely appauling that this energy source should have been allowed to have been developed by a civilised society, rather perverse society!
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Cancer … and heart disease … and diabetes … and immune disorders … and many more illnesses.
Would there really be an epidemic of things like Lyme disease and HIV if it weren't for radiation having weakened our immune systems? Oh, I forgot, the chemicals, pesticides, food additives and generally poor diet of modern peoples have also contributed ….
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well paraphrased, I do hope it is simply greed, short-sightedness and stupidity rather than deliberate ecocide by satanic cultists. OTOH the clever devil can do some good if sufficiently tricked by the angels of light. / para-religious rant.
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I think it's safe to say Satanic cultists have evil tendencies w/o upsetting the proverbial apple cart here ….
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Car driving isn't safe, but people are still drive cars and nuclear energy is much more safe than car driving.
Everything is dangerous, nothing is safe.
Death rates are lowest in nuclear industry including solar and wind: http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/03/deaths-per-twh-for-all-energy-sources.html.
Coal killing much more people each year, when compared to death, caused by Chernobyl disaster.
People are living in areas with higher background radiation for centuries and probably is healthier than these who live in lower background level areas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsar,_Mazandaran#Radioactivity.
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Ah, dunno, it's you again. Last time you posted you claimed that low level radiation doesn't cause cancer, but instead prevents it. This time you spread the "acceptable risk" propaganda.
This is wrong on so many levels, and I suggest you post your stuff on another forum, where people might be still uninformed enough to believe you.
Here, they won't even listen.
good luck.
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+1000000000
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is that in tepco numbers ?
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South West corner..so a collapse could focus energy TOWARDS the western areas of Japan? Any ideas of where all this could go? THAT might energize TEPCO/AKA JAPAN's government more.
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The most dangerous thing about nuclear power plants are the people who own and run them.
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lol!
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The most dangerous thing about nuclear power plants is the total destruction of the environment for millions of years which is making life on this planet impossible forever.
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Is that a radioactive banana in your plants
or are you just happy to be steaming?
Don't rads change materials composition
or was all that science but dreaming?
There's a bulge at the top -
where Leaders should be –
of folks with dubious sanity,
a bulge that's getting ready to pop
us all in the oven of infirmity
due to chemical, biological, radiological ill
to be addressed with a marketable pill
of no use in terms of correction
but made for symptomatic misdirection.
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Well said!
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Is that a radioactive banana in your plants? No, just glad to see you Or-well…that made my day!
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or-well,
we are all throwing flowers and blowing kisses from the stands
encore, encore.
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NoNukes,
those flowers smell sweet, airborne kisses land gently
as my ego inflates – I'll explode imminently !
What a mess that'll be, a miss-spelled word-splatter
a run-amok or-well mad as a hatter !
Oh wait, that's just normal, a usual condition -
you'll just have to stay tuned for more rhyme-emission.
I'm thinking the off-topic discusion forum
is where I can best express lack of decorum.
Haha! Not that I'm planning on rudeness or nudeness
just an occassional how-do-you-do-ness
aimed at the Rulers of Drooling Cluelessness,
the odd bit of brevity from the ranks of the shoeless.
When last I laid hit-and-run rhymes on nukes' ass,
Enenews was forgiving and gave me a pass
tho sometimes I veered somewhat off-topic
I have ideas now that unless one's myopic
are not quite so anti-nuclear focused
but more for lightening the gloom of a nuke locus.
I just got lucky there wordwise so I'll stop now.
I really do appreciate everyones kind words.
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All this old lady can say is…You Rock!!
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A most welcomed development.
The returm of or-well.
Welcome back or-well!
Keep 'em coming.
Too much focus on dark nuke thoughts here.
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So nice to have you here again, Orwell!
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Welcome back, or-well. Missed ya.
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Same here or-well, missed your prose
You tend to lighten a heavy load
You give us laughter with our woes
Your verse takes us down a better road
Stick around and keep em on their toes
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I missed you
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Hmmm, lets see if I guess correctly…
HoTaters with sour cream and fresh chives
BreadAndButter with blackcurrent jam and some Brie,
Sunday roast for NoNukes and WindSolarPlease -
thats four I'm sending a big happy squeeze!
Unless that's too fresh and a bit impudent –
for the sake of the kids I'll just say "Well met!"
That leaves omniversling and GeoHarvey,
NoPrevarication, Jebus, philipupnorth
and for you I think my hand I'll hold forth
with a BBQ burger and ice-cold beer and
say "How about our Team this year?"
Caricature sexist outrageous I know!
But it's just for fun among pixels aglow
and I bow with thanks for your kind words bestowed,
as I do to all who have made my heart grow.
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or-well I'll share that roast with NoNukes, and I'll also gladly take that big happy squeeze. Your arms better be long enough for the four of us
Now if you could only make this disaster go away and end nuclear power.
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About 1/2 an inch difference.
46 mm = 1.81 inches
33 mm = 1.29 inches
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=46+mm
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Hmmn … where are they measuring this? At the bottom of the structure, or at the floor where the SPF is located. Makes a big difference. The angle would be of far greater interest & significance. One has to wonder if they reported the measurement in millimeters as a means of obfuscation ….
Tepco, obfuscatorily obfuscating into oblivion ….
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So it's bulging more or this is just a revision. Wow TEPCO is quite a puzzle. NO NUKES
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Slowly, very slowly, release gradually worse news, the majority will not notice just how bad it is because they become acclimated to the news. Soon they realize how terrible it is but it is too late.
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ribbit… ribbit….
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Ah, Jebus, you beat me to it!
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Mmm… plus or minus 30mm over a building 30 metres in extent. I would be surprised if it was built to that accuracy in the first place, but I guess if they are measuring a distinct change its a sign of something bad.
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they are in a real hurry, they are working thruogh the day and night to sort this out..
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Hi mungo
I think every minute counts now, getting some sort of handle of this before it totally blows and wrecking the whole earth. It's been a time bomb to long.
I do think North America is already in trouble with this radiation. I think something is going on I feel like I did, when it first happened.
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