Expert: I think plutonium probably reached critical mass at Reactor 3 which caused explosion (VIDEO)

Published: September 6th, 2012 at 7:35 am ET
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Nuked Radio Special: Busby Speaks
September 4, 2012

At 12:30 in

Dr. Chris Busby: I think what happened originally was it got hot enough to volatilize the plutonium. See, in these reactors there’s always plutonium. In Reactor 3, there was plutonium they put in there in the first place.

And plutonium has a lower boiling point than uranium.

So in principle if you heat the thing high enough, the plutonium comes off first, like the fractional distillation of oil.

So as the plutonium comes off, it will then condense in the cooler part of whatever it is coming off into, the pressure vessel I guess… and you only need about 9 kg of plutonium to have critical mass, so that could then explode and blow everything up in the air.

I think that is probably what happened at Reactor 3.

See also: Arnie Gundersen: “Dr. Chris Busby’s done some phenomenal epidemiological work”

This report from March 2012 by a Japanese professor could support Busby’s theory (Emphasis Added):

[…] Frankly, I am surprised that plutonium was detected [near Iwaki, 50km south of Fukushima Daiichi].

[…]  the ratio of Pu239+240/Cs-137 is 9.0E-5, which is 200 times the government estimate of 4.3E-7, showing more plutonium being detected than the government estimate indicates. It is probably because of fractionation [See Busby : “So in principal if you heat the thing high enough, the plutonium comes off first, like the fractional distillation of oil.”].

Right now, I am hoping to test for uranium, and Am-241 if possible.

Dr Chris Busby is scientific consultant to the Low Level Radiation Campaign and director of the independent environmental consultancy, Green Audit. He obtained First Class Honours BSc (Special) in Chemistry from the University of London. He worked in research for the Wellcome Foundation applying spectroscopic and analytical methods to chemical
pharmacology and molecular drug interactions. He discontinued doctoral research in spectroscopy at Queen Mary College, London, following a dispute over ethics and returned to Burroughs Wellcome. He later researched Raman spectro-electrochemistry at the University of Kent, gaining a PhD. – CERRIE website

Christopher Busby (born 1 September 1945) is a British scientist  […] and scientific advisor to the Low Level Radiation Campaign (LLRC) which he set up in 1995. Busby is a visiting professor at the University of Ulster. Busby was the National Speaker on Science and Technology for the Green Party of England and Wales. –Wikipedia

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58 comments to Expert: I think plutonium probably reached critical mass at Reactor 3 which caused explosion (VIDEO)

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Every woman, child, and man should listen to this interview of Busby.

  • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

    "Reactor No. 3 also housed 32 MOX assemblies, reportedly enriched to 6% or 330 kg of Pu239."
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/07/29/fukushimas-melted-reactors-500-days-on/

    The Hiroshima bomb:
    "Approximately 600 to 860 milligrams of matter in the bomb was converted into the active energy of heat and radiation (see mass-energy equivalence for detail). It exploded with an energy of 13 kilotons of TNT (54 TJ)"
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy

    There was certainly enough Pu in U3 to make a bomb. In order to reach explosive criticality, the detonation of a bomb requires a precise arrangement of components, along with an explosive trigger. You might not think that the chaos inside a runaway nuclear reactor could trigger an explosion similar to that of a nuclear bomb, but this may indeed prove to be what happened at Fuku. Dr. Busby does not address the three separate bangs that are heard on the video of the U3 explosion.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k3Ofs6R9cg

    It is vital to prove that similar nuclear reactors can be operated safety. The Japanese government must guarantee that U3 be thoroughly photographed, and samples taken, prior to decommissioning, so that enough evidence is preserved to allow science to determine the actual source and nature of the explosion that destroyed Building3. Until that happens, we are playing a guessing game. GE Mark1 Reactors should be shut down until the cause of the U3 explosion has been determined.

    • All Mox development of any type should be shut down, The MOX reactor blew sky high, and the MOX pimps are still pushing MOX as the solution to get rid of plutonium….sheesh, yeah, spread it over the north hemisphere, and you sure did get rid of it…..

      • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

        @Stock

        …And Areva is still building the MOX fuel plant in Aiken, S.C. at the behest of … you guessed it! President Obama. (Sure, sure, I know, they will mention this tonight). Sarcasm.

    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      On December 30, 1958 an accident occurred in the Los Alamos plutonium-processing facility. Cecil Kelley, an experienced chemical operator was working with a large mixing tank. The solution in tank was supposed to be “lean”, typically less than 0.1 grams of plutonium per liter. However, the concentration on that day was actually 200 times higher. When Kelley switched on the stirrer, the liquid in the tank formed a vortex and the plutonium containing layer went critical releasing a huge burst of neutrons and gamma radiation in a pulse that lasted a mere 200 microseconds.

      Bottom line; he died.

      http://listverse.com/2010/03/25/10-famous-incidences-of-death-by-radiation/

      If it is this EASY to go critical with just tiny amounts of plutonium in liquid, think of how easy it would be to have that same thing happen in MOX reactors melting down… such as FUKU.

  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    Red or blue pill?

    Who is living in the Matrix, sleeping while awake, believing the fiction that is most of mass media dominated by monopolies, who also control and manipulate most of what is called politics, medicine, and finance/banking? Hmmm, would the nuclear industry qualify as a monopoly that is creating a fictional, virtual world via control of mass media and 'press releases' as well?

    The answer is there for all to discover on their own, by swallowing the truth and digesting it.

    How Dangerous Is 400-600 Pounds Of Plutonium Nano Particle Dust Liberated By Fukushima? Via A Green Road http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/how-dangerous-is-400-600-pounds-of.html

    Dr. Chris Busby; Consequences of Burning Radioactive Waste In Japan; via A Green Road
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/dr-chris-busby-consequences-of-burning.html

  • Sickputer

    "And plutonium has a lower boiling point than uranium."

    SP: Bingo! I read that about plutonium last week. Give Busby credit for a very plausible theory about the tremendous blast March 14, 2011 at Fukushima Unit 4. Just like the massive stratospheric explosion of Chernobyl Unit 4, except this time the world experienced fallout from massive amounts of plutonium.

    The critics have tried to downplay the plutonium dispersal from day 1 saying the particles were too heavy to travel far from the plant. We know they are liars. Tokyo took a massive fallout hit when the winds and rains converged after the blast. A perfect storm of plutonium. Track those 37 million people for lung cancer and you will see the longterm victims. Walking timebombs in their lungs.

    Same thing for the members on board the USS Ronald Reagan, drenched in the ocean-bound plutonium plume. There is no soap to clean out the lungs of the 6,000 sailors and aviators. Track those soldiers medically before the Pentagon fakes the health data.

  • tarpus

    So a nuclear explosion it was. And our never-would-lie-about-anything-can-do-nothing-wrong government (along with another "honest" country; *ahem cough cough) wants to blow up yet another nuclear reactor in the middle east to "keep us safe" from "terrorists". You cannot make this stuff up. I have had dreams about building my own spaceship and leaving this planet, phoning home and telling everybody to kiss it but I wake up and am still here… “When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” Dresden James

  • jackassrig

    IMO Bang1. Reactor blows high temperature greater than about 1000degF. Steam explosion. Bang2 Hydrogen explosion. Bang3. Nuclear.

  • weeman

    Dr. Busby you are correct the nuclear industry is responsible for countless deaths that make Stalin and Hitler look like amateurs and should be sent to the Hauge for prosecution for as mr. Busby said peace time war crimes.
    Someone has to make a citizens arrest and transport, we must put the fear of life into them, if they fear us they will listen.

  • Atomfritz Atomfritz

    Interesting theory, as PuO2 melts at 2673 K and UO2 at 3140K.

    However, it's probably not that simple, because pellets are a sintered mix of both and separation won't be so easy as the melting mass is a conglomerate of all possible things.
    But it's a very attractive imagination, the molten blob separating away into pure plutonium, resulting in a nuclear fizzle 🙂

    Sadly, Busby's reputation is even far lower than Arnie's, so most people discard his statements as sensationalistic panic-mongery.

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      I heard Radchick interview Christopher Busby and he claims that the US got more radiation from bomb tests in the 50's and 60's stating we have nothing to worry about. I don't know but when the plankton is dying in the Pacific, etc, the list goes on and on, common sense tells me we have a big problem but I do hope I am over reacting as he claims.

    • We don't need adhominem here.
      hmmm "all possible things", doesn't seem to match what I know of nuke rods, they seem to take alot of care of what they put in those rods, not "all possible things".

      I am not around enough to know if you are truly troll, but slanted commentary is not needed or appreciated.

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      I cherish all the knowledge shared by Arnie Gundersen, Chris Busby and numerous posts here on Enenews while I may not always agree with their views. I personally do not 'discard their statements' but use their info to advance my understanding and broaden my perspective. I really appreciate all the time and patience they have taken explaining this disaster. Whether one is pro nuke or not we all have something to contribute as for me I'm anti-nuke as there are so many truly clean energy sources we can extract electricity from such as tidal, wind and solar without destroying the planet. NO NUKES

    • hbjon hbjon

      There is no intention for a large explosion like in a nuclear bomb. A nuclear reactor accident will alway produce the smallest possible criticality required for an explosion. Elements are brought together by gravity. It's not difficult to see how gravitation can affect liquid metal. Learn the melting points of the various components inside a RPV and realize that when you lose the fuel rod, the fuel will drip out. Gravitational force takes over when a certain temperature is reached. Mankind must embrace the steady-state universe with wind and solar as being major players. All the profits and benefits of nuclear over the years seem to have been negated by this one accident.

  • Atomfritz Atomfritz

    The statement that the US got far more radioactivity from its bomb tests is correct.
    Americans have no need to worry about Fukushima air releases, and I believe it's crucial to put things into perspective.

    Exaggerating the Fuku accident is dangerous because, think about what will happen when a REALLY SERIOUS accident like Chernobyl happens, maybe even in a densely populated area?
    People then will believe things cannot go worse than at Fuku, and this could be disastrous.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      So the US bomb tests were worse than this?

      “Fukushima Equals 3,000 Billion Lethal Doses"

      “Dr Paolo Scampa, a widely know EU Physicist, single handedly popularized the easily understood Lethal Doses concept. “Lethal Doses” is a world wide, well understood idea that strips Physics bare and offers a brilliant, understandable explanation for all the physics gobbledygook Intelligence agencies and their respective governments use to disguise the brutal truths of the Fukushima Daiichi Disaster."

      "Three thousand billion (3,000,000,000,000) Lethal Doses of Radiation means there are 429 Lethal Doses chasing each and every one of us on the planet, to put it in a nutshell. This is up from about 70 Billion Lethal Doses March 23, 2011. It is getting worse everyday without any intervention by the US and the other nuclear powers….”

      "Note that the lethality of radioactive reactor cores goes up the first 250,000 years they are out of the reactor – not down."

      http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/28/fukushima-how-many-chernobyls-is-it/

      OMG! The US government has released greater than over 3 trillion lethal doses of radiation in the US through nuclear bomb testing. Add this to the Fukushima radiation, and we're swimming in trillions of lethal doses of radiation! And Chernobyl was more serious than all this? OMG! Another trillion lethal doses! Dozens of trillions of lethal doses of radiation poisoning the planet! You're right, things can get really worse than Fukushima -…

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        IT ALREADY HAS!

        Thanks for pointing this out, AF. We need to know that the US had created an ELE decades before Fukushima happened, and Chernobyl was just an additional disaster on top of what the US military had already unleashed.

        This whole disaster just got worse by a magnitude of trillions. Good work, AF.

        • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

          Time Is Short: Many thanks for your effective and devestating response to an obvious shill.
          Atomfritz: I have been wondering about you, but you have erased my doubts. Thank you, but bugger off.

        • Atomfritz Atomfritz

          TimeIsShort,
          to not fall prey to the plutonium hystery, one has to consider that there are actually several plutonium isotopes, of which each works differently.

          Compared with Pu-239 bomb material, power reactors plutonium has a high part of Pu-238, which is biologically much more dangerous due to its short half life (87.8 yrs).

          Further generally the size of the particle and the distribution pattern is very important, they must be sufficiently large, but not too large to have an "optimal lethal effect".

          According to the "CDC toxicologic profile for plutonium", beagle puppies can be killed with a respiratory intake of less than a 10-billionth gram of Pu-238. (occurring in power reactors)
          But other experiments showed that inhalations of (weapon-)Pu-239 of less than a millionth gram didn't decrease life expectancy much, with doses above a microgram lethality increased strongly.

          So "plutonium" isn't always the same as "plutonium".
          Keep things in perspective.
          Reactor plutonium is far more hazardous to health than weapon plutonium.

          • The danger of Pu and Uranium is not so much in its radioactivity, it is the actions of the heavy metals. They are very poisonous even before considering any radioactivity.

            We know plutonium is extremely toxic, and just how many tests on dogs did they do back in the day to "prove" their weapons weren't so dangerous. Just saying, I don't trust their shit.

          • Jebus Jebus

            "Reactor plutonium is far more hazardous to health than weapon plutonium."

            And when you take weapons plutonium(Pu-239), grind it into the finest nanoparticle, mix it with nanosized reactor uranium/plutonium(Pu-238), put it into a nuclear reactor, add ignorance, a low bid, and hubris, you get this…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k3Ofs6R9cg

            Something far more hazardous to health, than either one separately, that was injected high into the northern hemisphere's biosphere…

            The result always equals the sum of the parts.

        • moonshellblue moonshellblue

          Explains the increase in cancer and heart disease, etc. Also regardless whether Fukushima is an ELE or not simply stated, I think all nuclear power plants are dangerous and obviously we have no concept or the technical knowledge required to control the beast once it goes awry thus all reactors should be shut down, the spent fuel placed in dry casks and stored somewhere like Yucca Mountain. JMHO

      • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

        10000 TRILLION +

    • Jebus Jebus

      The only thing worse than another nuclear "accident", for the shills of nuclear, is the past truth about nuclear revealed…

      Thanks for helping that along AF. 😉

    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      http://climateviewer.com/HUD/ click on left side, check all boxes under nuclear pollution, wait, spin globe, click on individual spots to get more info and more understanding.. then cry, spin and repeat..

    • I see, use the old handle objections routine

      Accept a known fact
      now throw out the propaganda you wish to distribute.

      Classic method, but most people are to smart to buy it.

      Fact will be accepted, calcs accepted.

      There were 10's of tons of uranium aerosolized (and thus that means plutonium too) and detected by EPA in large quantities in USA. Here is the EPA data analyzed to prove tens of tons in the air.

      Most of this has settled out by now into ocean or land areas, but it doesnt go away and will get kicked up again in storms.

      http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/p/uranium-aerosolized-into-atmosphere.html

    • vital1 vital1

      Quote "Americans have no need to worry about Fukushima air releases"

      Here is a Beta Cross Count in CPM chart, for Bakersfield! As you can clearly see from this chart, parts of the USA were significantly impacted by large amounts of air borne nuclear contamination, over a number of months. It went off scale at times on this chart!

      http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/bakersfiled-chart.jpg

      • vital1 vital1

        My post was in reply comments by poster "Atomfritz"

      • Atomfritz Atomfritz

        Are there pre-Fukushima comparison charts?

        A high count shouldn't cause distant polluters to be blamed without thorough verification, because this keeps you from looking whether the radiation source could be nearby?

        Wouldn't it be nice for a nearby nuclear plant operator if all people believe the dirt comes from Fuku?

        • Jebus Jebus

          Ya gotta pay attention more Atoms…
          You'll get yer posts all mixed up…

          I'm sure there are, as you people put it, "baselines" for pre Fuku dirt. Maybe they are blaming the wrong source, but they have got the polluter right. The Nuclear Industry.

          Wouldn't it be nice for the nuclear industry, if all people believed that the Worst Global Nuclear Disaster dirt came from previous accidents?

        • I've run radnet charts AtomFritz

          Phoenix AZ has had high beta spikes in the past because of the Palo Verde plant and because winds pick up decades of accumulation of radioactive dust.

          That said, the sustained highs in beta we had in November and December of 2011 were UNIQUE and no previous months over the last 2 years have had spikes like that.

          As for Busby: I agree with Busby and I disagree with him.

          I agree that we are destroying our DNA with many types of radiological assaults and we may have already compromised our future beyond repair.

          I disagree with him on US fallout. I believe that Fukushima fallout in the US has been significant enough to cause ecological changes and to affect human health.

          Why is that?

          Maybe the reason is that the latest 'nail in the coffin' may simply have catalyzed a tipping point in animal populations that had already become very genetically vulnerable after decades of assaults.

          Did anyone see the NYT article about sensitive DNA "on off switches" in substances previously regarded as "junk DNA"?

          We may be a lot more vulnerable than we previously suspected….

          • Prof. Koide concluded that humanity as a whole has never experienced this level of radiation contamination and he stated:

            “I have no idea what will happen but we will be fighting this radiation on the order of tens, hundreds of years”

            Cinema Forum Fukushima, titled, “Archive Footage of the NYC Press Conference May 4th 2012.”

            Professor Hiroaki Koide, Nuclear Reactor Specialist and Assistant Professor at Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute

            http://cinemaforumfukushima.org/2012/05/06/archive-footage-of-the-nyc-press-conference-may-4th-2012/

          • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

            @majia: a few years back, I was reading a report on what 'junk DNA' was postulated to function as. While they were researching human DNA, they were surprised to discover that the junk-DNA sequenced predecessor life-forms. At first they thought the DNA sequences were impossible, that is, until they realized that it had a perfectly logical function in the evolution of species.

            They decoded sequences for limbs that belonged to crustaceans and other animals hidden away within the coding. If finally dawned on someone, this 'garbage code' was likely being retained as an evolutionary fall-back mechanism; nature's means of keeping a record of what-once worked and might be needed again.

            It boggles the mind to think on how perfect nature is…

            • Interesting! Imagine an entire genetic history of humanity encoded in our DNA

              I am reading the description of the project, termed ENCODE right now

              http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v489/n7414/full/489052a.html

              • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                @majia: my intuition hints, it is precisely this 'recessive' coding that triggers our vulnerability to radioactive mutagenic response. It's also likely that (in the far future) they'll understand the 'mechanics' enough to be able to chemically impede undesirable mutagenic trigger-responses. The evidence that supports my intuition rests in recent revelations that damage done by a parent to their body is carried into succeeding generations of offspring. We initially thought that stubbing-out the cigarette during pregnancy was good parenting. Now we know that damage done decades earlier to ones body can be propagated into offspring. Truly amazing is science and why I love it…

              • Jebus Jebus

                I read that when it came out yesterday. They have figured out that the "other" junk DNA, not the parts that we share with all other current creatures/past creatures, but the parts that they thought were just extra, are the little switches that control the chemical mixing for the parts of the DNA that determine if a cell is a heart muscle or an eyeball cornea, ect…
                They feel if they can get at the control mechanism for deterministic cell function, then the breakthrough's will come next. Trouble is, they dont have any idea what codes the switches to switch. The software is proprietary. 😉

                Here's different article link…

                http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/09/junk_no_more_en_1064001.html

                • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                  What I'm inferring Jebus, is low-level radiological exposure to replicating DNA structures does not actually 'damage' them (in the sense of wrecking their structure), but rather triggers mutagenic changes in this recessive coding; which shows-up in off-spring as 'mutations'. The mutation is actually a 'mangled-attempt' to hyper-merge coding that was used tens-of-millions of years ago (recessive DNA coding) with the contemporary life-form's dominant DNA structure. Just a thought.

                  Must push-off now. Lots of work done. Gotta shut this work-station down.

                  Ciao and give 'em hell!

                  • Jebus Jebus

                    From what little I know about the damage to DNA from L.L.Rads, is that the decay energy released, the neutron, has mass size depending upon the isotope. Notice the energy ratings for each isotope, expressed in KeV's? and the stoping power of that mass (your heart) the neutron goes thru? Expressed as MeV.
                    Well that tiny particle of whatever isotope in yout heart has the equivalent of millions of electron volts of energy. Think of that cell getting bashed thru by the mass of the neutron at the equivalent power of millions of electron volts. A mini rail gun if you wish. Like a bullet. That cell may get killed, never to replicate and cleared out by your body. That is the best outcome of this. If the cell is damaged and repairs properly, this is good. If that cell's DNA is sliced in half and the cell lives to replicate with bad, broken DNA, it is very bad for you, maybe. Depends what got sliced out and what the cell is for.
                    This is the cancer part as the cell freaks out because it is missing it's control mechanism.
                    Think of that tiny nanoparticle of radionuclide in your body as a tiny, very powerfull, light saber slicing everything it can around it willy nilly till the decay reaches it's end of life or you do…

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronvolt

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stopping_power_%28particle_radiation%29

          • Atomfritz Atomfritz

            maija, I am glad you don't call me a blasphemist just because of not believing that the high beta measurements in southwest US are necessarily originating from Fuku.

            Indeed, Palo Verde is a very interesting and unique NPP in some aspects. No river or sea adjacent available for cooling. Instead, cooling done by evaporating municipal sewer waste waters. Not very hygienic, and probably possible only by heavily using biocides poisonous to humans also, which are being evaporated also. This alone a quite hazardous thing. Sort of plague spewer.

            And then the tritium issue. Practically all tritium will be evaporated and fall out downwind, instead being "contained" by rivers/seas as other nuke plants do release it.
            So it's just normal that surface and upper ground waters in the vicinity, be them sand lenses or swimming pools are highly tritiated.

            I didn't find an actual release estimate when searching, but if I read between the lines I think the actual Palo Verde tritium releases can be estimated to be between two and six kilocuries/year (more than 200 trillion becquerels), all airborne.

            (cont'd)

            • Atomfritz Atomfritz

              So it's indeed very probable that the beta highs you mention could be originate from Palo Verde or another plant nearby.
              Their operators really hope this doesn't become widely-known, so they don't get more unwanted attention that can be avoided.
              Maybe they even are involved in the media spin that ALL the radioactive dirt now being discovered in western US must be originating from Fuku?

              Maija, I am glad you are one of the few Americans who try to make aware their neighbors of what danger EVERY nuke plant poses. Keep up this good work!

    • hbjon hbjon

      At what temperature will UO2 and PuO2 decompose into philosophical uranium and plutonium? The stuff they cast into pellets of course is too weak to do anything in its usual state.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Money for nothing, people are free…

    They all knew in the beginning of this disaster, how bad it was(is).

    They all knew in the beginning of this disaster, what had to be done to protect the corporate profits. They knew this was the worst of the worst that happened.
    Then the silence was put into place. The shills were mobilized.

    Areva VP’s presentation says there’s been a release of fission products during meltdown — “One of the greatest disasters in modern time”

    Published: April 2nd, 2011 at 10:25 pm ET

    … On March 21, Stanford University presented an invitation-only panel discussion on the Japanese crisis that featured Alan Hansen, an executive vice president of Areva NC, a unit of the company focused on the nuclear fuel cycle.

    “Clearly,” he told the audience, “we’re witnessing one of the greatest disasters in modern time.” …

    A slide with a cutaway illustration of a reactor featured a glowing hot mass of melted fuel rods in the middle of the core and noted “release of fission products” during meltdown. …

    The posted document was later changed to remove all references to Areva…

    “We cannot comment on that,” Jarret Adams, a spokesman for Areva, said of the slide presentation. …

    http://enenews.com/areva-vps-presentation-says-theres-been-a-release-of-fission-products-during-meltdown-one-of-the-greatest-disasters-in-modern-time

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/03/science/03meltdown.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

  • razzz razzz

    What a great interview, covers a lot of subject matter.

    Dr. Busby has had great success against the nuclear industry in UK courts testifying as an expert witness, won them all so far.

    Very down to earth guy for being such an expert in his field. Very technical when he has to be, like Dr. Helen Caldicott.

    Following from a decent condensed version about Dr. Busby:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Busby

    "…Busby has criticized other researchers studying health effects from low-dose radiation, for being "stupid" and "ignorant", and in particular Prof. Wade Allison (emeritus) of Oxford who had quoted a UN report saying that only 28 people have died as of 2005 from radiation releases at Chernobyl and who has said there is an "over-reaction" to low-dose radiation…"

    http://www.cbfcf.org/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr2Kl7o_jcc

  • Jason_wise

    What Dr. Chris Busby did not say when saying the levels are low along the Pacific of the U.S. and Canada is the the radiation is accumulative. Cesium 137 has a half life of about 30 years and plutonium half life of 80 million years, so how many cans of Pacific tuna will it take to kill a person of cancer? 50 or 100 cans? Really this is the true questions that must be asked. The radiation will build up in ones body. This goes for Vegetables that are grown in Canada and the West Coast. I am now advoiding Califoria produce and check to see that it is grown in the southern hemisphere or East Coast of the U.S. so to limit my exposure as much as possible. I have read that it takes eating only one hot particle to develope an internal tumour for each particle comsumed. One point he made that is a fact and that is with all the nuclear releases over the years we have condemned the human race and all other life forms on this planet. Atomic bombs, D.U, Chernobyl and now Fukushima's four reactors. Neuclear energy was a bad idea. "Nuclear power is one hell of a way to boil water", Albert Einstein. I think he meant that literally.

  • Paiute023 Paiute023

    So , Enviroreporter.com ,Michael Collins has been testing residual "Bomb test" from pre- chernobyl? then why did ,his reading jump to over 5 times background ,@ late spring ,this year 2012?Why the elevated ,Cs-134;1-37 in Tuna off CALi's' coast ,THAT FUKU FINGERPRINT!!!!! looks like this thread ,has been invaded by schills popping pills.

  • sunpower

    I certainly do not want to disparage the reputation of Dr. Busby whom I credit highly for his study of the aftereffects of the uranium munitions destruction of Fallujah, a city the size of Cinncinnati, where the children's leukemia has spiked by 37 times. However, Chris like all people even the best intentioned and highly degreed, makes some very fundamental mistakes. There is a big difference in the type of reaction inside a fission bomb and that in a fission reactor. We did not see a fission bomb explosion at Daiichi or there would be nothing left in the blast radius. Even the smallest nuclear bomb ever made, the Davy Crockett, has a one third mile lethal blast radius. What we actually saw is what our friend Terra Hertz explained, with the three pops as the prompt criticality expanded its steam to explosion rapidly. The damage visible from above unit three is definitely blown out over the fuel pool not the reactor. The best way to visualize how these things fizzle and pop is to look at the videos of the old tests in Idaho where the expanding steam would shut off the sustained criticality. You can see how fast these things flash to way out of control and how unit three blew up.
    I will always credit Dr. Busby with steadfastly pointing out the much higher gravity of internal radiation exposure vs. the inadequate 'risk model'. I just think he has not studied nuclear weapons design if he believes these elements just come together and go bang.

    • Jebus Jebus

      fission is fission any way you look at it.
      prompt criticality is fission.
      critical mass is fission.
      whether it causes a devastating bomb to explode over a city
      or
      wheather it causes a damaged overheated nuclear reactor, stocked with MOX, to go critical, even for a millionth of a second, causing a giant steam explosion (waterhammer), injecting 1200 nuclear isotopes into the heavens
      it's still a fission event, just as sure as the sun comes up.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_mass

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium-239

      You see? It's not magic. It's not too hard to understand.
      You don't have to study physics, or have a PHD to understand the effects of nuclear power on a bad day…

  • Paiute023 Paiute023

    Fission is fission…..whitewash is whitewash

  • pierre

    much as I like Busby, he seems to be taking Fukushima as a past event with known leakages to the environment. it is ongoing, timeless and about to hit the fan at any moment. count the nuclear materials available for dispersion and then tell us how it is overrated.