Published: May 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am ET
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Title: Dr. Helen Caldicott Q&A on March 22, 2012
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They’ve never seen or contemplated anything like this.
It [Fukushima radiation] will be reaching you quite soon, I think in the ocean current and the fish.
And the fish swim 1000s of miles. The EPA is not testing your fish caught on the West Coast. You should be testing your fish routinely.
I would be very cautious about… I don’t know how long it takes for the fish to get here. It’s already been a year.
The fish will be radioactive and I don’t think I’d be surfing.
h/t rumorecurioso
Debris map from J. Churnside/NOAA’s Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research:
Published: May 6th, 2012 at 10:14 am ET
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Wonder if the seals and dolphins who are dying — are the canaries in the coalmine! Maybe those poor animals are the first of the fatalies from Fukushima radiation. Anyone have information of tests results being done? Lots of testing is "said" to be done, just no results. So West Coast USA is going to face some lifestyle impacts –at a minimum.
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Wonder if we should be breathing on foggy days and nights in San Francisco?
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I think we should stop breathing on foggy days too,…….just exactly HOW to do that,….still stumps me. Noah??? Where's Noah and his breathing apparatus when you need 'em?
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Plus around here, they are almost ALL foggy days. My daughter loves to swim and now I can't let her, but how do I keep her from breathing? Good luck keeping the surfers out of the ocean.
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find an indoor pool for her.
take dietary precautions and breathe DEEPLY inside your hepa filtered home.
a few days after unit 4 goes, if it comes to that, wear a mask when outside.
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If I were you, NoNukes, I'd consider getting my exercise a few miles inland from the coast — maybe Noe Valley, the Mission District, Twin Peaks, or the Potrero District. Much less fog.
You might also consider (if you're able to do this), caulking around your window sashes, checking to see your windows have a tight fit. Make sure there is weatherstripping around your doors, and garage doors are sealed, and there are no air leaks in the garage. Indoors, you can tape over unused electrical outlets or plug them with plugs you can buy at a hardware store. Not sure I covered everything. Our house had a lot of leaks around the window sashes, so I went around and sealed them with clear silicone caulking (and made sure it's not visible).
A handyman's article or book on winterizing your home should give lots of tips on this. PG&E may also have information available free of charge. Personnel at Home Depot and places like that are usually friendly and helpful with tips of winterizing your home.
Heating ducts should not have leaks.
Should the worst case scenario happen, we'll all need to avoid using anything which brings hot or cold air in from outdoors.
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Thanks, demo. I wouldn't let her swim outdoors anymore, but I'm afraid that the water is itself a problem. She now gets a very itchy rash that only begins to go away when we keep her out of the water as much as possible. I hope that it doesn't have anything to do with radiation, but then, why wouldn't it? She is very sensitive to iodine, so I wonder if her skin is reacting to the Iodine-129 in the water. It is insane that we don't have access to trustworthy information.
HoTaters, thanks, I also think of you mopping your porch, which I have yet to do. I will follow your example and cover these important bases. We have an excellent Hepa filter, but what about when she is at school, playing at recess in the rain? This is why I feel like I have to get her away from here. Her thyroid is such a sitting duck, with the impossibility of iodine supplementation. Plus, who knows how often my surfer husband sneaks off for a dip in the ocean without his paranoid wife knowing, lol?
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NoNukes, Why the impossibility of iodine supplemation? I found liquid iodine in a health food store that is meant to be consumed. I have two children 2 and 3 years old who live with their uncooperative mother but when they are with me I put a drop or two in the powdered milk I give them. They are both very healthy. Soon to add potasium to inhibit possible Cesium. Doing something is better then doing nothing.
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Hi Mark,
She is a Celiac with Dermatitis herpetiformis, which is triggered not only by wheat/gluten, but also by iodine, as I discovered trying to supplement just a little bit. Her highly respected dermatologist didn't know that Iodine triggered DH, too. This rash is insanely itchy, reduces her to tears, hyperventilating, ripping at her skin:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002451/figure/A001480.B1406/?report=objectonly
So she can't function taking the iodine, but without her thyroid is not protected. Her sensitivity to iodine is what makes me wonder about the water, if Iodine 129 is in the water, because where else would it go? Supplementing with zinc might help, but is not an answer.
So, I feel like I have to get her as far away as possible, even if it is a little late.
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So sorry I guess I didn't understand what sensitivity to iodine meant for you. Sure puts you in a tough position. Can she eat bananas? Potasium seems like a good antidote for the longer lasting cesium isotope. Iodine is short lived as you well know so maybe there are other strategies such as using canned or stored food that has had time for the iodine to diminish in radio activity.
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There is a comment on the BRAWN forum from someone concerned that his new potassium chloride (KCl) supplement tested at 10X normal background level, while his old one was only 2X. One reply noted that a common source of KCl is DRIED SEAWEED. Please make sure your potassium supplement is not from a cesium-tainted source! This may not be easy to do.
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Maybe the results were so bad they were deemed never to have existed.
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jec,
Yes they did testing on these animals, but the results have not been published that I have seen, … It's much like the GOM I would think, A gag order was imposed on all testing of the animals !
Gag order issued in Dolphins Death Probe !
To Gulf Oil Spill on Friday, March 25, 2011
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/509/749/
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Gag order for Pacific, too? Or GOM only?
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HoTaters,
If they fif it there it would stand to reason, Correct !?
They are not even testing the Pacific life, so they have surcumvented any bad news !
To read the original letter from NOAA. .pdf go to link page above !
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Yes, one has to wonder. It has been months since the diseased marine mammals in Alaska were tested for radiation. No one has heard a word! There must be some sneaky way for them to avoid publishing the results (if they want to avoid it). The researchers can always claim it's taking a long time to process the data, analyze it, etc.
I read about 20 paragraphs of the NOAA letter and got bored. Get to the point already, guys! Love the way they call mass marine animal deaths an "unusual mortality event".
Weasel words as usual. Like calling civilian casualties of war "collateral damage."
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*VIDEO* Nuclear Food Chain
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1905/710/Nuclear_Food_Chain.html
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@xdrfox. Everyone needs to watch "Nuclear Food Chain"! Thanks for posting, xdr. I'm very interesting in following the increasing accumulations over generations.
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dharmasyd,
I just find them, Hope you are well and yours !
More inf.:
The Truth about Nuclear Power as revealed by an unyielding nuclear researcher
Hiroaki Koide of the Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute, who has been issuing warnings about the dangers of nuclear power for over 40 years, gave this lecture on March 20 just after the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident.
The reactors have melted down, and a great amount of radioactivity continues to contaminate the air, ground and ocean. Four months after the accident, despite the efforts of those working onsite, the situation is far from being under control. This accident has been rated as level 7, the highest possible level (and the same as the Chernobyl accident).
The permissible radiation exposure limit was raised from 1 mSv to 20 mSV per year following the accident, and the effect that this may have on children is extremely worrying.
Japan, which experienced the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombs, is now suffering from the effects of the Fukushima accident. We must learn from this painful experience, and never make the same mistake. We must create a world in which children can grow up in peace.
This is a message from Japan to the world. We would like this to reach everyone living on earth. Please spread this message to your dear ones.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eBVQ3B-Jvrw
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xdrfox..Thanks again. I think Koide is great. I haven't seen this early piece before though. TY!
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I'm a part of a group in Yachats, Oregon who will be "beach combing for Japan" – returning identifiable items to people in Japan. Already in April 2012, tsunami debris (buoys, sandels, etc) are washing up on the beaches along the Oregon and Washington coasts.
I have a Geiger counter and will be checking for elevated levels of radiation in any of this debris. Last summer I took baseline readings around the area and found that the background level was about 15 counts per minuted (CPM).
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Good initiative, Gotham! How many people are joining the group? Will you please post your results here?
Do you have any idea where all the debris will go?
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NOAA is supposed to be responsible. But as ususal "team Obama" is dumbing down the effort by cutting their budget.
http://thesunbreak.com/2012/04/30/a-staggering-mess-as-tsunami-debris-hits-alaska-coast-early
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I think it's safe to say the radiation has already reached here when the seaweed RIGHT OFF THE COAST OF SAN DIEGO is highly contaminated….surfing should have ceased a year ago, eating sushi should have ceased a year ago, saying it right now is just silliness.
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it was here, but very diluted. better late mitigating than never, to decrease chance of cancer etc, especially when the radiation becomes more concentrated.
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not WAS….IS here and it's not stopping anytime soon. Diluted as in a broken fuel rod stir stick in a coffee cup. Yes, mitigate.
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I gave up fish a while ago. Oh I miss trout but I ain't too sure about the farms either.
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GNASHING TEETH CURLING UPPER LIP,
xdrfox's post http://deformed-babies.tumblr.com/
MaidenHeaven's post
Skeletal system:
“Liquidators and residents of the contaminated territories often complain of bone and joint pain. Bone function is a balance between the formation of bone and the natural re-absorption process. Because a number of isotopes become deposited in bone these diseases may be due to either hormonal disorders or direct damage by irradiation to the cellular predecessors of osteoclasts and osteoblasts. Sr-90, produced in the splitting of uranium is deposited in children’s bones and teeth and linked to diseases later in life. (Sherman, 2000; Mangano and Sherman, 2011)
“In contaminated Ukrainian territories, children have been born without bones (“jellyfish children”), a condition seen previously only in the Marshall Islands after the nuclear tests of the 1950s.
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CB,
10:25 AM EST on October 6th, 2011
Strontium-90 in Miami-area teeth samples up to 34 times above normal — Nearby reactors released an “enormous amount of radioactivity” (VIDEOS)
http://enenews.com/parts-2-3-strontium-90-miami-area-teeth-samples-34-times-normal-levels-nearby-reactors-released-enormous-amount-radioactivity-videos
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WAR! PICK A FUCKING SIDE!
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I want to go diving and get abalone here on the west coast, but am having second thoughts about a) getting in the water and b) eating the abalone which have an exclusive diet of kelp. Since abalone only grow I/2 inch per year maybe they're still safe and not much radiation has bioaccumulated yet!? Nuclear power sucks, no nukes.
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Shellfish are about the worst thing you can eat in a radiological disaster such as this.
Cesium, for example, drops to the ocean sediment and is taken up by shellfish.
Even the government is saying it, in their contradictory and cagey kind of way:
Effects of Radiation from Fukushima Dai-ichi
on the U.S. Marine Environment
Eugene H. Buck
Specialist in Natural Resources Policy
Harold F. Upton
Analyst in Natural Resources Policy
April 2, 2012
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41751.pdf
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Pu239,
There was an article here where some shellfish farmers were having record size shellfish a few months back ! …. SEE here:
09:32 AM EST on January 22nd, 2012 | 45 comments
Oysters growing at double normal speed in North Japan — “Rafts would have sunk from weight of oysters”
http://enenews.com/oysters-growing-at-double-the-normal-speed-in-north-japan-rafts-would-have-sunk-from-the-weight-of-the-oysters
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Might I also add something like tuna is equally toxic to eat since cesium in bigger fish would have accumulated more because of the food chain.
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April 29th, 2012
http://enenews.com/l-a-daily-news-column-radioactive-kelp-is-californias-most-under-reported-story-of-the-spring-its-been-somewhat-radioactive-off-and-on-for-months
April 10th, 2012
http://enenews.com/local-tv-radiation-in-kelp-could-create-a-health-concern-for-so-california-seafood-lovers-the-question-we-all-want-answered-how-dangerous-is-this-to-you-and-me-video
April 7th, 2012
http://enenews.com/paper-orange-county-coastal-fish-possibly-affected-by-radioactivity-i-would-assume-its-there-in-the-plants-and-animals-off-californias-coast-says-researcher
April 5th, 2012
http://enenews.com/study-author-california-iodine-131-underestimated-probably-double-or-triple-what-we-reported-it%e2%80%99s-not-a-good-thing-dispersed-over-a-variety-of-organisms
March 30th, 2012
http://enenews.com/40000000-bq-of-iodine-131-in-a-single-bed-of-kelp-off-southern-california-amount-most-likely-larger
Much more :
http://enenews.com/?s=kelp
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covelogibbs,
Well if you do go diving and get abalone to eat, … Can I have your stuff !
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i'm mostly vegan now, healthier anyway for person and for planet.
i wouldn't eat kelp or anything else from the Pacific.
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What are they filtering? How do they do their respiration? Am wondering if there are other avenues for abalone to absorb/ingest radiation besides their diet.
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HoTaters ,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abalone
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Those pictures are the direct result of humans playing God. (How's that workin' out for ya?)
Hubris on steroids,…..and no culpability!
As a Mother,…in my past life,….and having had a special needs child,…I can not FATHOM how I'd feel in these parent's shoes. I know these folks rarely ever get back to LIFE. You are NEVER the same.
My friend says that 'Chernobyl Heart' is coming to the theaters. Is this true? If it is true,….WOWSERS! That's movement!
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Here's a link to Chernobyl Heart on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujAG_Ofj4M
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She says it all in the first part of that video:
"It's pathetic."
– Helen Caldicott
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http://oceanradiationremedy.wordpress.com/
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Hi all, have been following your comments for a while now, this is beyond words…I live on the gold coast in Australia. Does anyone have estimates on wind circulatory patterns, and ocean currents for the pacific? If sfp4 goes I feel my best bet will be to head inland, maybe into the deep desert…hook up with the traditional Aboriginals. I am not going to live in a sealed box. The real question for me is not how I am going to live, but how I want to die? Hang out in the deep desert, fasting and meditating until I die in peace. I saw by brother die from radiation poisoning (chemo)no way do I want to go like that. God bless you all…what a bloody mess!!!
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petemathias, Welcome mate !
This may help you sir !
http://www.weatherimages.org/index.html#aviation
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Theres a bit of a lot going on there, would you say ?
Be sure to roll the page to see all the whisles and bells !
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The Seekers – The Carnival Is Over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nze8B39OB0k&feature=player_detailpage
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Hi, Pete! Jetstreams and other fuku weather links
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/forum/index.php/topic,67.0.html
Also a small collection of Caldicott and other rad brilliance
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/forum/index.php/topic,21.0.html
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from one of youtubes finest japanese nuclear activists imo
HouzanSuzuki san
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Song parodies of Fukushima Daiich Nuclear Plant.(=Fukuichi) Part-1 / "Hotel California"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZhY6tk49o
seemed appropriate
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I like what SJ is doing, by having prescribed sauna sessions to sweat out the CsCl. What you can conceive, you can achieve.( I always say).
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Me too! I like that idea! Exercising until you break a sweat does similar things too.
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exercising without breaking a sweat is twiddling your thumbs
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Well, now, Richard, that depends on how fast you twiddle them. I hear the world's record holder breaks quite a sweat. ;-D LOL
(Still in training myself. This darned smart (dumb)phone keyboard gives my poor little thumbs quite the workout…in between trying to save the world from nuclear annihilation, that is.)
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ah yes, I forgot that thumb twiddling now has a wii-fit app – called the smartphone
you've given me a new prespective on working out
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;-D LOL
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