California Professor: “Serious threat” to our ocean, environment and society from ongoing Fukushima radiation releases — U. of California: “Unprecedented events with global consequences… fallout is far from over” — Scientist: ‘Risky’ (PHOTO)

Published: May 27th, 2014 at 2:20 pm ET


Sonoma County Gazette, April 24, 2014: Citizen Science: Monitoring Fukushima Radiation […] Sponsored by the SRJC Physics Program and Chemistry Dept.: Two leading world experts in radiation monitoring will be speaking at 7:00pm on Saturday, May 31, in Carole Ellis Auditorium located on the Petaluma campus of Santa Rosa Junior College. […] The on-going radiation releases from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant constitute a serious threat to our ocean, natural environment and society.  Dr. [Ken] Buesseler’s presentation, “The View from the Ocean,” will provide an overview of studies of Fukushima radionuclides in the ocean, its uptake by fish and potential impacts on fisheries in Japan and the U.S. West Coast. […] Dan Sythe will discuss his extensive work in developing and manufacturing radiation monitoring devices and his efforts to equip, educate and protect communities faced with the threat of radioactive fallout. […] For more information, contact: Lynda Williams [SRJC Professor of Engineering/Physics] 707-527-4680

Petaluma Press Democrat (Event Flyer), May 25, 2014: On-going release of radiation from Fukushima continues to threaten our oceans, natural environment & society. Two leading experts in radiation monitoring will discuss natural & man-made radionuclides, how to measure their levels where we live, and crowd sourced websites collecting citizen scientist data […] Moderated by  John Bertucci,

UCSB Current, May 8, 2014: The March 11, 2011, earthquake, tsunami and subsequent radiation releases at Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant were unprecedented events with global consequences. And while the fallout is far from over, it may not be as dire on the West Coast as people might think. […] Buesseler […] will give a talk in UC Santa Barbara’s Campbell Hall on Tuesday, May 27. […] “Whether it’s of human health concern or not, we need data to actually validate which models we should be using to look at cesium in the ocean,” Buesseler said. “Those models predict very low concentrations but it won’t be zero — this is a hard thing to convey […] there are many other things we do that are risky. Flying on an airplane or a dental X-ray would give you a much higher dose than what we’re expecting in the water here.” […] Although levels of cesium in the ocean being released […] are a thousand times lower than in 2011, other isotopes such as strontium-90 are becoming of greater concern.

View the May 14th SRJC Press Release here

Published: May 27th, 2014 at 2:20 pm ET


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78 comments to California Professor: “Serious threat” to our ocean, environment and society from ongoing Fukushima radiation releases — U. of California: “Unprecedented events with global consequences… fallout is far from over” — Scientist: ‘Risky’ (PHOTO)

  • 富岡_Blue_Heron 富岡_Blue_Heron

    "Flying on an airplane or a dental X-ray would give you a much higher dose than what we’re expecting in the water here.”

    Tell it to the sea stars

  • Ontological Ontological

    They don't tell you that the ELEments OUTSIDE of containment are MIXED in WITH the rads! They hide behind pristine rads only chart readings from the 1960s!

  • Daisy207

    "other isotopes such as strontium-90 are becoming of greater concern."

    What other isotopes? Name them all. If they are becoming of greater concern you must have test results, what are the numbers? Where have the tests been done? How often? What lab is running the tests? Who is collecting the samples? More BS –SHOW US THE DATA

    • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

      The "other" isotopes are guaranteed to exist due to the nature of a meltdown and the uncontrolled fission process that took place on 3/11

      Once you verify any of the specific fission isotopes and you know there was a melt down/through, then one does not need to test for the other isotopes…they are essentially guaranteed to be part of "the mix".
      Hence, not much gained by "naming them all", as they are extremely predictable.

      Sort of like if a convenience store gets robbed.
      The amount matters.
      The distribution of paper and coin denominations do not.
      Yet you know for sure that there is a finite and limited number of possibilities for the denominations.

      I think that the concern over 90Sr is that they have likely done little if any testing for it, yet they know it has to be out there
      in terms of "the big picture" on this mess.

      Even if we test for 90Sr (et al) and do not detect any simply means we missed it. Lots of it is for sure dispersed far and wide.
      We know for sure that plenty of it was and still is being spread around the planet.

      • Naw. I've been informed more than a few times by one of Buesseler's erstwhile nuke-loving colleagues in the "Don't Worry, Be Happy" minimization project that all the strontium magically stayed behind when the rest of the crap got out. There's no need to test for it because none of it got out because it's a lazy isotope that likes to sleep in. Especially during meltdowns/melt-throughs when it's produced in the same amounts as cesium. Which isn't so lazy, so THAT is what they'll test for instead.

        Looks to me like they're actually expecting people to buy that load of bull too. Oy.

  • Nick

    Any chance some attenders will ask these guys about plutonium releases from Japan?

    Or will the focus be on cesium-134/137 and strontium-90?

    Monitoring for radiation is good but some discussion needs to happen about just what EXACTLY Fukushima has unleashed on the world's ecology.

    I certainly hope 6/1 becomes a new dawn of citizen action on all things nuclear.

    To those of you who attend the 5/31 event…..ask the tough questions.

  • Anybody going to the Petaluma event: Please ask them to identify the specific radioisotopes they test for – then ask them why they are not testing/reporting for those they are not publicly reporting on…. strontium, americium, etc….

  • Sadbuttrue Sadbuttrue

    "Whether it’s of human health concern or not, we need data to actually validate which models we should be using to look at cesium in the ocean,” Buesseler said". Yes Ken Buesseler, the man is a liar and can't be trusted. He's a nuclear shill and will downplay and lie. And also, how about looking at all the other isotopes being dumped in the ocean daily, not just cesium?

  • razzz razzz

    The bioaccumulation is the concern and radiological hot spots. Guessing Kenny never read the German study on how decay products can increase dangerous releases years later after the initial meltdown(s).
    Kenny should concentrate on the source of the fallout and anything still migrating from and through those radioactive waters. With humans, Daiichi fallout exposure causes chronic complications to manifest themselves right about now.

  • norbu norbu

    This plant was a threat to all life as soon as they had the plans drawn.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture


    From a (( single )) nuclear plant.

    With no end in sight.

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    it may not be as dire on the West Coast as people might think…Buesseler

    Some people may not be as dumb as you might think. Woods Hole has4 million to test it, on top of 200 million budget, but ken needs crowdsource.

    Yeah right…send in your samples, and well get back to you with results,…between my busy speaking/interview schedule….no time to make a test myself..toodaloo

    citizens…pitching in…feels good! I can see it; one pile for the money donations and one pile for the old seaweed

  • 76MillionBananas 76MillionBananas

    Wendell Berry and others pegged it when they said all environmental crises are actually crises of human character.

  • Every now and then I think Ken will come clean and do the right thing… haha… I hope that activist friends I have in NorCal/SoCo will go hammer him with lots of great questions at the Petaluma event.

  • MoonlightEmpire MoonlightEmpire

    There will be no trustworthy data until citizens form their own private lab.

    CRIIRAD is an example of this. The French government denied any rads from Chernobyl…but some people knew better.

    They pooled their resources and started CRIIRAD.

    If you want trustworthy data, you need to start this in your locale.

    In my opinion, data is only worthwhile on a regional basis…though you want REALLY good regional data. This is because it will allow population centers to know where they need to migrate to…and when they need to migrate again as the shifting, invisible shadow of genetic death dances across the planet.

    Contamination in all forms is a HUMAN-created problem…and not by nature…but by choice. Each of us chooses to pollute and destroy.

    Abolish the creation of man-made radionuclides in all forms.

    Then–and only then–can we begin a thousand generations of our children guarding barrels of horrible poison that the past 3 generations have created.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Can't hide it anymore. The Fukushima part is here.

    The ongoing results. Add 'em up.

    Human caused, biological and genomic poisoning, on a global scale, never before witnessed by the perpetrators.

    Many results. So spin this result too.

    Ignore the cause. Ignore the solution.

    Duck and cover. Make an appointment.

    Feed the machine. Kill the planet.

    Admire the results.

    Rinse, Repeat…

  • YukonRadiation YukonRadiation

    I have enough talk from assholes like Ken Buesseler, who is this guy? where are the crazy people with guns? please shot him now!
    This is such crap only one way now from doing anything and that is to start hurting them with what ever comes to mind!

  • YukonRadiation YukonRadiation

    Oh yah , like flying a plane? well next time you fly take your geiger counter with you! it is a lot more then an x-ray! i only hope i get to watch some of them die slowly before i do?

  • jackassrig

    "It is felt, at least at present, reality can be made to conform to mathematical theory with reasonable agreement on the basis of these three factors. The variable constant, fudge factor, and diddle factor." Dr. Finagle.

  • jec jec

    Its not just Fukushima with issues either..see:

    Loss of cooling caused the how many cooling plants in the USA or worldwide..use these kinds of bolts (stainless) and pumps. The bolts either failed or sheared the large impellers sending the cooling water –could be stopped suddenly when that happens. And of course..the issue of loss of bolts..and loss of pumps….Just saying. Note in article the officals took a HARD look at the four pumps..not clear if in just one nuclear plant or could be many. So what happens when the cooling pumps fail? What is the back up?

    • jec jec

      ONLY 15 to 17 bolts discovered so far, and only Westinghouse pumps, and only at Salem and Surry (VIRGINIA) which is nine miles from my home. Great, just great. They are taking a serious look-
      "outage for the Salem 2 nuclear plant has been extended for an indefinite period after workers found heads of broken bolts in a key cooling pump and at the bottom of the reactor vessel."
      Note in REACTOR Vessel under the nuclear fuel cells. Were Westinghouse pumps at Fukushima?

      • Shaker1

        jec, this manner of cracking is quite common, especially in stainless. It's seen as a combination of tensile stress and some corrosive agent and intergranular. Bolts, by their very nature, are subject to tensile stress. Interesting to me would be the corrosive agent involved.

        The remark that one can make about this is the progression to failure in a situation that seems to beg failure in some respects. I would wonder if there's a program for inspection of such articles, especially with the age of these plants, or if there was an incident/incidents that enhanced the situation and failure happened quickly. Personally, this is the kind of thing that really scares me about the NRC and the extensions of licenses of these older plants. Their inspection procedures must get more stringent and more frequent with age, and especially with what might be considered a pretty normal attitude of not throwing good money after bad with a plant of limited lifetime.

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    Ahh…good ol' Kenny boy still wearing those golden kneepads I see. Slurp away!

  • califnative califnative

    Main Stream Media Hoaxed by Ken Buesseler Pt 1, BeautifulGirlByDana, 12 Minute video including lots of historical Enenews references.

    Published on Mar 6, 2014
    Gullible Fable Draws media like fly's to sugar water , BBC , Yahoo , PBS got hoaxed recently by the The Great Ken Buesseler. a Senior Scientist. and Marine Chemistry & Geochemistry representing Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution who loves to game the media with his amazingly uncomplicated statements cesium 137 turns into potassium 40 when it gets a 1000 miles out to sea and the main stream media fell for it again . MSM then starts gleefully regurgitating it that keeps the masses from comprehending the subject , who will fall victim to Ken next ? PBS _ Fishing for data in the radioactive waters off Fukushima

    Copied from enenews headlines above:
    And while the fallout is far from over, it may not be as dire on the West Coast as people might think. […] Buesseler […] will give a talk in UC Santa Barbara’s Campbell Hall on Tuesday, May 27.

  • Nick

    ****news flash****

    The American Banana Council is going to sponsor a 5/31 event at UCSB.

    Joining them will be the American Dental association AND the Airlines of America Association.

    All three entities will help dispel the myth that radiation from FD-NPP is more harmful than their tripe.

    Join us for a strange effort to dispel people's fears about the legacy of wayward atoms released from what was once one of the world's largest electrical nuclear plant.

    Free radiation monitors to the most gullible……

  • califnative califnative

    Fukushima: Are Ken Buesseler & Dr Jay Cullen Really Scientist?
    BeautifulGirlbyDana – I'm gonna have to roast them because they are extremely well educated killer nuclear lobbyist, what they say is crafted to fool all of the people listening a 100%. So lets see how they like taking one for the team, regularly, that should be career ending by every code in the book of ethics.

    Lets remix this and upload it every time we see them talking.

    Here is the nuclear creatures in a interview regurgitating one nutty nuclear fable after another in a shocking spectacle of submission to their overlords at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.

    Jay Cullen, associate professor at the School of Earth and Ocean Sciences at the University of Victoria and ex Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.

    Ken Buesseler, senior scientist in marine chemistry & geochemistry at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.

    I repeat, copied from enenews headlines above:
    And while the fallout is far from over, it may not be as dire on the West Coast as people might think. […] Buesseler […] will give a talk in UC Santa Barbara’s Campbell Hall on Tuesday, May 27.

  • Sol Man

    The screen shows "The End" before the eternal static pattern.

    No thanks to those aligned with this death-knell technology.

  • califnative califnative

    Yeah! Radchick posted Dana's video on hoaxter Ken Buesseler before his talk at UC Santa Barbara tonight.
    Buesseler, who specializes in the study of natural and manmade radioactive isotopes in the ocean, will give a talk in UC Santa Barbara’s Campbell Hall on Tuesday, May 27.

    His presentation, “Fukushima – A View from the Ocean,” will begin at 7 p.m. It is free and open to the public.

    Oh it's dire here on the WEST COAST Ken, it's dire.

    • bo bo

      'The question is not when will the plume arrive – it is when will it leave?'

      – unincredulous

      Someone please go and ask Kenny that simple question

      • califnative califnative

        bo – good news, Radchick contacted Dr. Steven Hosea and ask if he and possibly some other activists to go to Ken Buesselers talk tonight. Will find out more later. Here is a good article Dr. Hosea wrote in March 2014.

        Please read Christina Consolo twitter message, she briefly mentions Ken and also shares a good story, she is really fighting for us, a wonderful lady.

        Also wanted to thank ENENEWS ADMIN, couldn't have shared this important information without you 🙂

      • GQR2

        well the plume apparently took a turn in the ocean, and went to? And went where exactly Ken ? And how do Radiation work in the ocean.
        Well he hasn't a clue or in a trance of some kind. because Woods Hole Douche Bags like Kelp Boy predicted it would get here in April. Ooh because of their spurious sampling its not until next year? …please! This kind of lying is criminal,putting these people at ease when really,really they should be very concerned. The people are already dropping like flies. Thyroid Cancers,Leukemia and he is just gonna say its not here until next year. i hope people really raise a stink! Make some noise and push back on Fuku Liars.

        Every season,they are going to push it off. What a bunch.

        • califnative califnative

          GQ I hope they raise a stink tonight too, was soon as I find out what happened (hopefully something) I'll post it here. It is infuriating isn't it.

          • GQR2

            It sure is,the time for being a "nice" radiated persons should be over,these people get no push back. But they will. The lies must stop. Low dose continual ionizing radiation is and will continue to destroy life as we know it and the worst is absolutely to come. They need to grow a pair!

    • "Ken Buesseler, who specializes in the study of natural and manmade radioactive isotopes in the ocean…" No he bloody doesn't! He knows precisely zip about natural and manmade radioactive isotopes in the ocean, and PROVED it in his first published post-Fuku paper asserting confidently that…

      "Polonium-210 is the most common radionuclide in the world's oceans."

      Yeah. He actually did say that. Despite the well known and amply documented scientific FACT that polonium-210 is #10 on a list of 10 most prevalent radionuclides in the world's oceans. As any 4th grader could easily confirm for themselves simply by Googling up the list. You can't lie about something like that and then attempt to pass yourself off as some kind of "specialist." He's a specialist in scientistic technical cover-up by mumbo-jumbo. So is Cullen.

  • jec jec

    Fukushima threat to our environment, is radiation the cause for the poor bonito harvest in Japan?
    "This year’s poor bonito haul has been in the news since April. Although it now seems to have improved somewhat, the volume is said to be still way below average, much to the chagrin of bonito fishermen."

    Maybe, May Not Be…BUT….

  • califnative califnative

    I'm finding all kinds of garbage online from Kenny B:

    What about marine life?

    As of right now, Woods Hole reports that most marine life contaminated with Fukushima radiation are mostly concentrated near the reactor site. The research institute noted that even though animals that leave the site might have some isotopes, some flush out of their systems naturally.

  • BeatifulGirlByDana on in a few minutes:
    WIPP Update, James Conca Radioactive Kitty Litter Man, Fukushima Voodoo

  • Sol Man

    A demonic attack on all genomes, water, air, and food.

    What did we think would happen?

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Nobody is thinking except/unless it is about themselves.. 🙁

  • califnative califnative

    Director of WHOI Ken Buesseler Discusses Radioactivity in Pacific Ocean last night

    Radioactive isotope expert Ken Buesseler discussed the effects of radiation releases from the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in Japan on Tuesday (May 27, 2014) during a UC Santa Barbara Campbell Hall presentation entitled “Fukushima – A View from the Ocean”.

    According to Buesseler, the Western United States is not under a direct health threat from the radioactive leakage originating from Fukushima.

    “Radioactivity can be dangerous, you should be concerned when things like this happen, but I don’t think that Santa Barbara or the West Coast are contaminated to levels where we should have concern for our health or safety,” Buesseler said.

    Buesseler said two sources of Fukushima radionuclides, which are high-energy atoms with unstable nuclei, are entering the ocean through “atmospheric deposition” and “direct discharge.”
    “We have these explosive releases of atmospheric derives of fallout and the gases carried out by aerosol either to the ocean or on land,”

    Buesseler said. “Luckily for Japan these tend to fall offshore. So about 80 percent of the fallout that came through those explosive releases fell on the earth and that happened about 3 days after March 11.”


  • califnative califnative

    Third-year biology student, Maria Barnes said the discussion gave her reliable information on the situation that is not easily accessible otherwise.

    “It was nice to be able to discuss a topic that doesn’t get much attention,” Barnes said. “I wasn’t very familiar with radiation in the ocean before besides from what I heard in the media and it was comforting to find out that we aren’t in any eminent danger.”

    • GQR2

      Sickening. And they are still eating sushi,walking and swimming. ack! And of course wondering or not wondering enough why so many people are sick. And they are sick. Lots of young parents,children,middle aged – everybody. A ticking time bomb of illness. Kelp Boy is a force of evil.

      • GQR2

        Buessler has made it his business not to find Radiation and not to cause panic. He is the chief queller

        He is a Nuclear Ambassador – BGBD has a couple of good vids about this clown. He is not concerned because he is not qualified,whatever he knew,he promptly forgot for a price. How does this person sleep. So much for push back last evening. That was boiler plate for one of his cameos.

        • GQR2

          His entire career has been at the Hole. The man is in a bubble to say the least. He is not to be trusted he is show man and a perception manager. He lost whatever chops he might have had. shame on him for lying and allowing people to think the testing of this project is enough. Let them test,but lets fund some independent testing too.

          • Jebus Jebus

            It's sad. The objectivity of science. Cold. Clinical…

            These Ocean "scientists" couldn't be more excited at the "opportunity" Fukushima has presented.

            Nope, don't need any cial!s here. Hand in hand, all the members.

            They can barely hold back. So the numbers are ghosted.

            Whole careers watching the Ocean slowly die.

            Now, it's a gold mine, (uranium mine?), of career establishment and funding.

            Hey everyone, look, were studying this…

            We get to study how the worlds largest release of radionuclides in history affects the worlds environment…

            We'll have data for ya, in a couple of months…

            Reality couldn't be better…

        • califnative califnative

          GQR2 – I agree, I wasn't even aware of this guy until Enenews posted this information. Thanks for the link, looks like a good video grab. You are one tireless supporter here, I remember you joined not long ago and you've been a great contributor. I hope you don't have high blood pressure ;)Thanks for keeping the forums strong 🙂

          • GQR2

            thank you Califnative. Its great to be here and i appreciate all the fine minds,writers,caring individuals that frequent this forum. i continue to learn so much and am really grateful for the reality check found in these threads. Its Fukushhh! and it changes everything and nobody but a few are talking about it. We keep the light shining on the unfolding disaster – but wowie zowie little breaks are good. A good laugh and a long gratitude list get me through. My blood pressure is usually super low except if i have to go to the doctor then it sky rockets?! So i try to stay away now 🙂

        • TooExpensiveToMatter

          Is a "nuclear ambassador" an "eminent danger"?

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      eminent; standing out so as to be readily perceived or noted : conspicuous
      imminent; About to occur; impending: in imminent danger.

      Agreed, we are in imminent but not eminent danger.

    • weegokiburi weegokiburi

      Eminent danger?
      Hope your typo

    • califnative califnative

      yes, it's a typo in the article, I didn't notice it. I noticed that Japan is apparently "lucky" and Ken Bullshit is saying there's no direct health threat to Santa Barbara or the west coast to college kids who believe him because there is a media black out on this nightmare subject that's happening right now.

    • bo bo

      Califnative – could the student have been a plant, an actress ?
      Could the question and answer have been orchestrated, who gets chosen to ask him questions – decided in advance?

      Not assuming one way or the other, just throwing the thought out there. I've seen strange things happen in these types of situations…

      Regarding Kenny Kelp boy & WHOI – I've said this before but Woods Hole is the gloryhole of the nuclear industry.

      • califnative califnative

        bo – I thought the same thing but didn't say it. That's why I singled that paragraph out because it was worded perfectly for the uninformed…and how do we know if there really is a Maria Barnes?! Orchestrated? why not, it's an easy way sugar coat a bad situation.

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Not shadowing

  • Mad_Scientists Mad_Scientists

    Meanwhile…Japan dumped another 641 tons of contaminated water into the ocean on May 27th. Add that to the 561 tons they dumped on May 21st.

  • Radio Radio

    And, yet, we are being asked to trust in leadership who ignores each and every indication that something is amiss. Are they overwhelmed? Picking the winners and the losers? Like money too much? Haven't a clue how to use power for the good? Don't know how to go on television and say "we have a problem" that we need to fix right now? Where is leadership? With someone having dinner discussing power machinations, money, and political strategies. Not with us. Not at our table.

  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    Ah yes…Dr. Ken Buesseler- I think we've heard from him previously. Unfortunately, it was without anything nuke-shattering to say.

  • califnative califnative

    Ocean debris showing up in WA–debris-washes-up-on-washington-shores-143838169.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory

    On a beach in southern Washington, approximately 4,500 miles across the Pacific Ocean, debris that may be from the tsunami is washing ashore, KING-5 in Seattle reports.

    Experts have yet to confirm that the debris, which includes small fishing boats, foam blocks, and water bottles, is all a direct result of the tsunami. However, George Hill, a tow-truck driver who spoke with KING-5, said that many of the water bottles and assorted items of trash appear to have originated in Japan.

    Just out of curiosity, I called George Hall and asked if he uses a Geiger counter, his response was no, they (who?) check for that and it's no more harmful than an x-ray. Suggested enenews but could tell he was getting annoyed. Maybe he'll think twice next time.

  • Sol Man

    Don't talk about the risk of radiation in bananas, dental x-rays, or an airline flight when looking for comparisons to 3+ melt-outs ++. To do so would only be the mark of a fool and deceiver.

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