CBS News: Giant Louisiana sinkhole could continue to grow for years to come -Company Official (VIDEO)

Published: May 5th, 2013 at 5:54 pm ET


Title: Understanding sinkholes
Source: CBS News Video
Date: May 5, 2013 6:45 AM
h/t Anonymous tip, Louisiana Sinkhole Bugle

At 5:30 in

Mark Strassmann, CBS Reporter: But [Bruce Martin, Texas Brine Company, LLC vice president of operation] Martin also admits the sinkhole could continue to grow for another year or two.

Watch the broadcast here

Published: May 5th, 2013 at 5:54 pm ET


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23 comments to CBS News: Giant Louisiana sinkhole could continue to grow for years to come -Company Official (VIDEO)

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    When this thing started, I read that a storage cavern 1500 feet away form the sinkhole held 1,000,000 barrels of propane. How is that working out? How much of that butane has been removed? Surely, they won't wait until this thing grows right over there to the butane. But, maybe they will…

    • getoutwhileyoustillcan

      That's what I was wondering. And what about the radioactive waste?

      • Lion76 Lion76

        everyone is so brainwashed by the "naturally occurring" label and the whole "background" propaganda. I don't think we'll be hearing anything at all about radiation with this thing.

  • jec jec

    Still has gas in it.But OXy1 (the gas location site) changes in volume and content daily. I wonder how soon Texas Brine will offer FAIR bailouts. They have YET to PAY the State of LA for its help and services (like in the millions). Bet TB is going bankrupt and trying to find an easy way out of the financial issues–fast. Like cut and run. The people living in the danger area..which I think should be at LEAST 2 mile radius..should be re-embursed fully..but the insurance amount TB has is not large enuf..if they even HAVE insurance….just like BP accident..seems to me TB is looking to someone else to pay for the damages…tax payers I bet..

    • rainbeaudais rainbeaudais

      Oxy 1 is a brine cavern and has never had gas in it.

      It's Crosstex caverns/wells that store gas. The Crosstex cavern never had the 1.5 million barrels. That was it's capacity. When the sinkhole formed, Crosstex Cavern # 2 has 946,000 bbls of propane. They started transferring it to cavern #1 and sold to customers around August 20th, getting cavern # 2 down to barely 2000 bbls mid February 2013, then started putting Propane in it.

      It now states there is around 81,000 bbls of lpg mix in cavern # 1. Apparently (hopefully) this lpg mix is not as dangerous as butan or propane byn themselves since the numbers are steadily rising again?

      And well # 1 is back up to 48,000 bbls of butane.

      At the Wednesdays mtg, TBs attorney stated they would have 14 offers ready within 3-4 days of that day. I heard 2 weeks on the news. The "fair" factor is going to be interesting from what I've heard some people are expecting.

      Did you know that out of the $333 million settlement in the Erin Brockovich case, some people only got $60,000, while the attorneys got $133 million? (so I read on the internet)

      TB is not going bankrupt. They are insured with $200 million, plus, according to Mr Martin at the legislative hearing. If they were going bankrupt, they surely wouldn't be steadily drilling new relief/monitoring wells, (2 just completed.) paying the evac assistance, rebuilding the berms, skimming the sinkhole,and on and on.

      • harengus_acidophilus

        Well informed "rebel"actor …

        Empty the cavern is lowering the pressure.
        Krks …

        200.000.000$ are a "drop of water in the ocean" in this case.
        But you pinpointing precautionary to the "greedy lawyers".
        On which payroll you are?


        • rainbeaudais rainbeaudais

          "Empty the cavern is lowering the pressure.

          Krks …"

          Can someone translate this for me, in relation to my post?

          As far the rest of the post, Harengus, I'll be glad to discuss any points you have in an adult, non accusatory tone. I think who's payroll I am on has already been established. Texas Brines, APPJs, LDNRS, Boone Exploration, heck…..everyone except the lawyers…obviously…. 😉 Because Lord knows if you have an opposing opinion here, you MUST be a paid shill, right?

          Lawsuits were filed FOUR days after the sinkhole happened… before we even had a hint of the extent of this problem. Everyones version of "fair" will be different. The lawyers will be the real….ONLY winners because of that difference of opinion of fair.

        • Stacey Stacey

          My sentiments exactly!

  • Lion76 Lion76

    I just hope it holds out for another year or two, as I am about one year away from graduating college and finally being able to get out of this state. The day I sell my house and have my degree in hand will be the day I finally put to bed all this "concern" that no one else here is sharing in. Just hold on, baby.

    • rainbeaudais rainbeaudais

      Lion76…quite a few people share your concern, especially here, including me. I have been watching the seismographs all day.I just don't have the same feelings you do about leaving the state.–.2013050512.gif

      • Lion76 Lion76

        I've been ready to get out of here all my life, just stuck around for family and friends. I'm at the end of my rope with this place. Aside from bashing everyone else's "life" here I'll just say that I finally realize that if I want "better" I have to go to where it is, not expect it to ever come here.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    What is in Oxy 1?

    Louisiana Sinkhole: State Documentation Reveals that Radioactive Materials Were INJECTED into Five Additional Napoleonville Salt Dome Caverns (UPDATED)
    March 18 2013

    Interesting stuff here..noting the greatest natural subsidence is over Oxy 1..
    Indicating..greater instability in the area.

    "The maximum subsidence rate in this
    figure (approximately 1.1 inches per year) is exhibited at the OXY Geismer Well No. 1"

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Sandia's David Borns is providing technical evaluations in weekly teleconferences about possible causes and remedies for a 300-foot-wide sinkhole there."

    Where's the updates from the Sandia National Laboratory?

    Sandia Experts Help When Sinkhole Opens Up in Louisiana

    "Sandia's David Borns is providing technical evaluations in weekly teleconferences about possible causes and remedies for a 300-foot-wide sinkhole there."
    9/27 2012

  • dosdos dosdos

    I'm expecting the final sinkhole proper to exceed 30 acres, with the sloughing area about 50 – 60 acres, based on the size of Oxy3 before the cave in. How long it takes to get there is anyone's guess. The berm may enlarge the sinkhole size a bit with its weight.

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Why would the sinkhole stop in growth based on the size of Oxy 3?..There is no impetus it to stop there.
      The oil/methane is not deriving from cavern depth.

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        ….No impetus to stop there.
        There is involvement with the aquifer(s)..not only water in contact with the salt dome….methane is entering the aquifer.

    • davidh7426 davidh7426

      A 50 – 60 acre lake for Oxy 3 alone, what if others [have] started to collapse. The potential size would be astronomical, compared to it's present area.

  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    To bad there is public paper trail to the main company shareholders, it would make big difference if these ppl could be outed! It's a shame how these ppl can be protected for the crimes they have done while a so many suffer.

    • gr81 gr81

      So why don't we give those responsible, and currently working, and spending vast $$$$ on the problem, the time to ascertain the full extent of the disaster for the long term, and determine remedies (if they exist); before we threaten "outing" them.

      There is no president and NO solutions. Unfortunately we learn by doing.

      I certainly do not minimize the pain, sickness, and financial losses of those who live there, but they deserve to understand the long term possibilities before they estimate their losses.

      After all, who knows…. once the gas, oil, earth, and water pressures equalize…..

      • haizedustrium-1234 haizedustrium-1234

        …..then the formation gas can finally be called swamp gas…..

        • jec jec

          And then..if swamp gas..or what is called swamp gas..its natural and no one is responsible! Just wait long enough. Probably why Texas Brine has yet to pay its bills with the State of LA, or buy out citizens.

          • rainbeaudais rainbeaudais

            They have CLEARLY stated it is (methane) thermogenic gas pushing the swamp (biogenic) gas up.

            "Scientists studying the sinkhole say the gases in the bubbles are coming from several sources: Both decomposing organic matter and deep formations likely opened by the events that created the sinkhole, now 15.1 acres at the surface.

            The deeper formation of gas may be moving up and pushing shallow swamp gas up before the deeper gas appears in the shallowest layers under the Bayou Corne community.

            The shallow gas released from decomposing matter is often called swamp gas, which is common in Louisiana, and is referred by scientists as being “biogenic.”

            Known as “thermogenic,” the gas from deep underground, which is the focus of concern, has far older geologic origins.

            Scientists have worried since last fall that this deep reservoir of gas could eventually move up closer to the surface, pass through the foundations of homes or accumulate under enclosed crawl spaces in homes, posing an invisible risk for explosions in the community of 350. Methane gas is odorless and colorless."


  • rainbeaudais rainbeaudais

    SCIENTISTS HAVE WORRIED SINCE LAST FALL that this deep reservoir of gas could eventually move up closer to the surface, pass through the foundations of homes or accumulate under enclosed crawl spaces in homes, POSING AN INVISIBLE RISK FOR EXPLOSIONS IN THE COMMUNITY of 350. Methane gas is odorless and colorless.


    WHERE….JEC, do you keep getting that they are telling the people it is SAFE to be here??

    At SOME point, people have to take responsibility for their own safety when they have been WARNED, and are being paid to be leave.