CBS News: Japan gov’t collapsed during nuke crisis -Report — Details just beginning to emerge — Officials overwhelmed, terrified

Published: February 27th, 2012 at 8:57 pm ET
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Title: Report: Gov’t “collapsed” during Japan nuke crisis
Source: CBS News
Author: Lucy Craft
Date: February 27, 2012 7:09 PM

Report: Gov’t “collapsed” during Japan nuke crisis

[...] details about the nuclear meltdown that happened that tragic day are just beginning to emerge.

[...] Today, a report revealed the chaos between Japan’s leaders during the crisis.

Tetsuro Fukuyama, prime minister’s adviser

  • “The normal lines of authority completely collapsed”
  • “As we listened to our top nuclear experts, we politicians had no idea what they were talking about. Was anyone going to suffer radiation contamination? Would this be another Chernobyl or Three Mile Island? No one could give us a straight answer”
  • Fukuyama said that the government thought that a nuclear meltdown was impending, and feared that a massive cloud of radiation would force the evacuation of 30 million people in the Tokyo region.
  • “Terrified doesn’t begin to describe how we felt”
  • “When we learned the reactors had in fact melted down, I was overwhelmed, by our inability”

Read the report here

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81 comments to CBS News: Japan gov’t collapsed during nuke crisis -Report — Details just beginning to emerge — Officials overwhelmed, terrified

  • They should be terrified, even today. If someone is not scared about this situation, even TODAY, they do not understand what is going on.

    This is a LEVEL 8 or 10 EVENT. Forget about Level 7.

    It is so far beyond that, it is ridiculous.

    They should add one level for every spent fuel pool and reactor that partially melted…

    Lets see… that is at least three reactors and three spent fuel pools

    7 + 6 = LEVEL 13

    That is more like what is going on… but even that may not be enough, if spent fuel pool #4 falls over or one of those melted through 65 ton corium blobs hits groundwater and explodes up through the ground.

    They we may have to raise Level 13 even further up the scale.

    Level 7.. yea right…. that is laughable.


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      • InfoPest InfoPest

        Halleluiah !!! It’s a miracle !!! The deaf, dumb and blind mass media has been healed !!! Fukushima is no longer invisible !! Praise be to the spineless reporters of the world !! To bad it won’t last long enough for the real truth to be told to the sleeping masses.


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    • psylotron

      You´re right but actually it should classified as level 51 or something like thath LOL. We´re talking about a disaster wich have last about a year and there are 4 damaged reactors (4 level 7 accidents at the same time) so: 4×7= 28 plus 3 damaged spent fuel pools (3×7= 21). I know my maths are stupid but it exemplifies the real magnitude of the disaster, it is not a level 7 or 8,9 or 11 even if they invented those levels , this disaster just break boundaries. Also,please scuse my english, this is my first coment here in ENE but I've been following the site since 8 or 9 months ago.


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      • Here is the 'official' news.

        Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster, a series of events beginning on 11 March 2011. Rated level 7 on 11 April 2011 by the Japanese government's nuclear safety agency.[2][3] Major damage to the backup power and containment systems caused by the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami resulted in overheating and leaking from some of the Fukushima I nuclear plant's reactors. Each reactor accident was rated separately; out of the six reactors, three were rated level 5, one was rated at a level 3, and the situation as a whole was rated level 7.[4] An exclusion zone of 20 km was established around the plant as well as a 30 km voluntary evacuation zone.[5] See also 2011 Japanese nuclear accidents.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Nuclear_Event_Scale


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        • Wikipedia; I am not sure why, but they follow the TEPCO and pro nuke line, pretty much 100 percent.

          Can anyone tell me why? They never even mention #3 exploding… or the nuclear fuel scattered over miles.

          Just a few minor leaks… we tightened up the oil pan bolt and she is good to go for another 500,000 miles. Just needed a minor oil change is all.


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        • SnorkY2K

          The Japanese government apologized for both Daichi and Daini accidents. I haven't seen much information on the extent of damage at Daini. Is there another bag that needs to be opened? If so, your math may be off.


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          • moonshellblue moonshellblue

            Yes I wonder about Daini as nothing has really been mentioned but we know they had problems with those reactors to what extent is anyones guess but the truth slowly trickles out just like the contaminated water from their duct taped piping. Wow beyond nuclear, beyond words.


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      • StillJill StillJill

        @psylotron–Excellent commentary friend, and your written english is wonderful! (I speak only english so I'm jealous anyway!).

        Good to see more folks grasping the enormity of this ELE. Neither Chernobyl nor Three Mile are even in the same category-IMO.

        Welcome,…glad you jumped in psylotron! :-)


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    • This proves they knew and the probabilities of these things and did not warn their people !
      Now "who did they release the truth to and when" !
      I'm talking financial profit and saving the lives of a few chosen ones !


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  • kintaman kintaman

    So when the government has no clue what is going on it is best to LIE to the people! Let them all stay in the path of death. Heaven forbid we warn them….

    "Was anyone going to suffer radiation contamination?"
    Anyone? What the fuck do they think these massive radiation bomb plants are, toys? This is the deadliest shit on the planet. Fucking absolute morons. They should ALL (ALL, ALL, ALL!!) be put on site to do manual clean up for the next 40 years.


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    • Indeed, if you have ever supported a nuke site, pro nuke vote of any sort….you go to Fuku, and work until it is really over, I mean until more than 70% of Honshu votes and says good enough. thsi includes TEPCO and other energy company, anyone at or above the rank of lieutenant colonel.


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      • WindorSolarPlease

        Hi stock@hawaii.rr.com

        Exactly, if anyone thinks Nuclear Power is safe and who wants more of these dangerous plants, go to Fukushima and help with the cleanup. They will be happy to teach anyone to work there.
        Wonder how many would get on the plane.


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        • moonshellblue moonshellblue

          Yes and we are building two more in Georgia WTF, excuse my language, but really. I cannot believe anyone would support nuclear after this disaster which continues to spew a devil brew upon the entire world. I personally think they will build these plants and they will never start up at least I hope not. Why in the world do we need to more of these dangerous monsters when we should be disposing of the existing ones but of course we have no where to put all the spent fuel. I just don't understand the thinking or lack of. Ahhh, sorry I'm rambling.


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  • vital1

    Nothing has changed. It is all just happening in slow motion! So the outcome they feared will be the same. Except because of their inaction in protecting their citizens properly lots of men, women, and children will died unnecessarily.

    Large parts of Japan needs to be evacuated. If this was the focus at the being a worldwide effort could have saved large numbers of people.

    —————————————————–

    Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is
    quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute
    the lifesaver.pdf (or create your own), hand it out, mailbox it, or email it.
    Put it everywhere, libraries, notice boards, web pages, forums, Facebook,
    and tweet! Think outside the box.

    http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/lifesaver.pdf


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    • Whoopie Whoopie

      Put you up at HP too vital. Thanks for reposting!


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    • vital1

      Large parts of Japan need to be evacuated. If this was the focus at the beginning a worldwide effort could have saved large numbers of people.


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    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      The general population doesn't want to hear it and I've been told "what are you going to do" Well I think there is plenty we can do versus sitting idly by and doing nothing. Like your post vital 1 for starters and telling our government that we do not support Nuclear Power and that it is far from being clean energy, in fact it is killing the environment and all living things. I wish people would wake up and take this seriously. I'm so tired of hearing "there is nothing we can do" BS there are plenty of things that can be done. Power in numbers. Having said that I would like to thank all of you for your contributions and please don't become discouraged as your efforts are greatly appreciated. Thank you.


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  • Dr. McCoy

    I am glad that I had an opportunity to visit Japan. The feeling is similar to the one I had about New Orleans after Katrina. Except I can still visit the Crescent City. Au revoir Tokyo. They needed to evacuate, they just don't know how. The party is over, don't bother to clean up 'cause you can't.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    SEE THAT? ENENEWS DISAPPEARED FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES!!
    MY LIFELINE! MY BLOG TO BEAT ALL BLOGS!
    (truly Admin…if I had some extra $$$$, GOD DAMN IT I'D SEND IT ASAP!) Sadly i have nothing to give EXCEPT spreading you everywhere i go. THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!!


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    New Tweet WTH?
    EXSKF Schools Reopen in Former "Evacuation-Ready" Zone in Minami Soma City: This photo from Asahi Shinbun (2/27/2012) … http://t.co/ebgBAHUF


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  • Kevin Kevin

    Busby states that he did testing throughout Japan and in Tokyo.

    He claims, and this is fascinating, that the DOE(US), had been doing testing from the beginning in Japan. He goes on to point out that the US embassy in Tokyo had high volume air testing equipment used on their roof there. He says he was leaked a document from the DOE, and he believes that he was the only one to receive this leak. The information in the leaked document outlines this and extremely high radiation reaching the US Embassy in Tokyo similar to the findings he found in car air filters in Tokyo. He does not state what the readings actually were.

    You can find this at this blog.

    http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/

    Go to February 03 2012 an interview with Moret and Busby. It is at about 3/4 the way through the podcast. I cannot say exactly the minute as the player of mine does give that detail.

    Busby states that although these findings were found right in Tokyo on top of the US embassy roof, they were never disclosed.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    RT @Greenpeace: Lessons from #Fukushima nuclear disaster report shows millions remain at risk http://bit.ly/zOxvQr
    MILLIONS!?!!? Not according to the Pro-Nukes.
    Everything is "fine and dandy' in Japan.
    LIES AND DISTORTIONS 24/7 and ALMOST 365 DAYS!!!


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  • This is something we read here I don't know how many months ago? Details they missed out on was how the government ordered sea water not to be used for cooling but the operator I forget his name disobeyed the government and used the sea water which avoided a worse situation. So now CBS is reporting nearly a year after the fact that the politicians were useless. And when I go to the story which is as I write up on my computer on another tab, there are six comments only…Does Enenews have more viewers then CBS?


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  • Anthony Anthony

    As awful a reality this sounds like, at least it strikes me as honest, predictable human reaction.

    As long as the Japanese people survive past this the precedent is being set forever as a non-lethal environmental issue. TPTB will ask us what`s the fuss anyways, the Japanese are fine. I'm not saying that it`s right but I think it`s how its going to play out on us.

    I think the Japanese are surviving this in part to a resistance they gained naturally or inherited genetically from the bombings in the past. The countless people who didn't die from the bombs and reproduced obviously can exist with radiation about. The ones who couldn't, didn't.


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    • many moons

      I think a lot of people have died we just don't hear about it…a lot of stillbirths, etc. This is well covered up. We have to look at the things they can't hide…..dead sea creatures, smoke from the plants, mutations in nature…the cover up doesn't extend to everywhere but I'm sure who ever goes into a hospital has something non radiation related…on the documents….


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    • Death and disease will occur over many decades. Dont be fooled.


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    • SnorkY2K

      A meltdown should not be confused with the level of contamination by two of the smallest nuclear weapons ever detonated. One of the bombs had only 68 kilograms of fuel that was instantaneously dispersed. The actual event time was not even a second.

      The meltdowns may have had nearly twenty tons of fuel with the spent fuels included plus all of the irradiated materials of the containment system. The reaction has continued for almost a year spewing enormous amounts of contaminants world wide.

      Viewing these as only as serious as a nuclear bomb explosion erodes peoples feeling that it is urgent to address the issue. There is still time to act. However, the Japanese government and Tepco are going to try to drag out implementation as long as they can to avoid costs then say that they waited too long and just write the area off.


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  • many moons

    They must think they are out of the woods with all this talk…I think they got all the fuel in the ocean and they think the crisis is over…..lets just make a cement carpet to sweep these rods under and we'll call the whole thing…a virtual cold shutdown…..I guess over time we will see the result.


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    • SnorkY2K

      We must not push the meme to bury and forget. The last thing that we want to do is to cover it with cement. We are not dealing with hot iron. This material is an alpha emitter and cement is not a good containment. While most alpha can be stopped by paper, it will spall concrete over time. Then you are left with radioactive material and radioactive concrete dust that is difficult to contain.

      It is going to be like molasses so cutting will be difficult and robots will not last long in that heat and radiation. However, there is a method to steer the corium out from under reactor and let it thin out to reduce reaction mass concentration. Then it can be cleaved and isolated to stop the spewing. Should be the main concentration of world efforts and I hear no one talking about it. (would be very very expensive and ruin many many expensive robots)


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    There's nothing anyone can do when a nuclear plant goes out of control. Must be outlawed, all of them.


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  • James2

    Everything they feared then is coming true now.

    Fact is Tokyo should have been evacuated – we knew it immediately – the government knew it immediately, they just did nothing about it.

    All of the governments of the world froze in fear at that moment.

    We all know that everything at that site is burning down. There is no containment, there is no cold shutdown. Only nuclear fuel openly burning, and will continue to burn until it burns out and has released all of its radiation.

    Japan had a small window to take decisive action – they did not, now the entire world is at risk.


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    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Agreed James2, they shoulda, coulda, woulda, but that train has left the station and shall never return. I just hope some brilliant mind can find a solution at this juncture and basically that is all that's left HOPE.


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  • Anthony Anthony

    Its interesting whats happening overall with the situation. On one hand that ARE coming clean the last six months and have made many TERRIBLE or SELF-DAMNING admissions…. and published them on the world wide web press. All the while during the *excessive radiation levels*, * full meltdown and melt throughs*, missing coriums`, nuclear fires, developing mutations etc, ALL THE WHILE for and *to* Average Joe World Citizen who MISSES the information as it is not necessarily in the MSM.

    I see people rising in the future totally aghast at whats been done to them, and the Govt and TEPCO politely informing them the information WAS already published and they should have been aware themselves.

    The admissions and information must be for a reason and I'm not thinking its for our own good as much as for covering somebody else's nuclear ass.


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  • Anthony Anthony

    Sorry many moons my comment below was actually to you! Take care.


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  • This'll be on in 15 min (Pacific Time, West Coast):

    http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm

    featuring the guy who wrote this article:

    "Beta Watch – Uranium-filled 'buckyballs' from Fukushima meltdowns may be bound for West Coast"
    http://www.enviroreporter.com/2012/02/beta-watch/


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  • vital1

    We are now faced with a weakening of the whole fabric of life on the planet.

    Comment post for someone living in Tokyo on one of the message boards yesterday, hearing ambulances 24/7, they're dropping like flies here.

    Because radiation contamination weakens the immune systems of animals and humans we could see viruses that would normally be under check become infectious. There are a lot of animals presently dying in large numbers from strange infections worldwide. Seals, turtles, sheep, cattle, and birds are just a few I have heard about.

    These virus infections may be killing them but only because their immune systems have been so weakened from the radiation contamination in the first place.

    We could equally see pandemics in the human population, like the pneumonia epidemic in Japan last year.

    There have been large numbers of human deaths births in North America and Japan as result of this massive nuclear disaster. This first wave of deaths where a result of the waves of radioactive Iodine that hit Japan and North America. A lot of these deaths could have been prevented if the populace had been informed.

    It just has not been reported by the MSM and the only information coming out is from those brave researchers who have been willing to pass on the information from their research findings.

    The initial estimate for the USA is 14,000 for the first 14 weeks. Total for the period from March to December 2011 100,000. For Japan I saw an estimate of 40,000 for the March to December period. This number is minus those killed by the tsunami. A large number of those deaths in both countries where under 1 year old.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdow_6pN6jY&feature=player_embedded

    This is just the beginning. If their decisions had been based on compassion for their follow man the world wide outcomes for this disaster would have been completely different.

    It could have been an opportunity to create a response of unprecedented worldwide…


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  • vital1

    It could have been an opportunity to create a response of unprecedented worldwide cooperation and unity!


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    • Alice Alice

      The old adage comes to mind. "He who hesitates is lost."

      As weird as this may sound, in a way it demonstrates just how human even governments are. Not that it helps to be aware of that.

      It simply means we're all lost because those in charge can't see the forest for the trees.


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      • ruth

        I think they can see the forest for the trees. They don't see the trees, they only see the forest.
        Russia officials, European officials, and US officials met soon after Chernobyl and according to Gorbachev, Russia was truthful about the radiation from Chernobly but the others would not accept that it was as bad as they said it was and with Russia's cooperation told the world it was much less significant.
        They are doing the same again with Fukushima. I for one am not surprised at their lies and expect to receive no useful information about the situation at Fukushima from any government official. I come here and look elsewhere for what facts can be gleaned.

        We are fortunate today that we can communicate via internet. At the time of Chernobyl there was only the main stream media for news.


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    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Or worldwide panic and pandemonium run amok. It's hard to say how the general populace would react and thus we are handed silence is golden. It's a great puzzle unless you are lost in the maze.


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  • elements

    And that ladies and gentlemen is how they react to a nuclear disaster/catastrophe.They JUST freeze and stay frozen.It NOT like they had a contigency plan, its not like they ever expected such a thing to happen?!!
    After building over 50 nuke plants..none whatsoever, was ever expected/supposed to experience such a disaster especially in a seismic active Island like Japan.So the score is 6 down how many to go?
    Ok I am getting kinda tired with all the lies, but do the Japanese people and those on the West coast Americas expect to wake up one day with a Notice in the Mail, email or even a government person at their front door saying EVACUATE??Or how are they expecting this to go down, sirens all over the place and panicked citizens on all roads and trains heading nowhere?
    I mean if you have a network connection and know how to use the internet, i believe you do not need to be educated on what to do to mitigate this…RUN? I mean for you life.You've got all the information you need thus far.You are on your own and nobody cares if you get irradiated or NOT.You will be just a mere statistic.Here lies…Trusted the gov't to death.


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  • elements

    Energy is required to run the slave colony, especially the factories.

    [...]Through all the “discussions and negotiations”, it was determined that nuclear power generation was going to be a preferred mode of running Japanese society. Once this decision was made, the Anglo-American corporations (who really run the show in Japan), in collusion with the homegrown purveyors of disaster capitalism Nippon-style, simply foisted nuclear power plants on the four corners of this island nation, and everywhere in between. Quite purposefully, no one ever stopped to consider the obvious and far-reaching ramifications of constructing 55 nuclear reactors on the most seismically active piece of property on planet Earth!

    More here..

    http://fukushimafive.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/japan-a-nation-consigned-to-nuclear-armageddon/

    Goodbye Japan and thanks for all the Fish….errr I mean all the toys!!


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  • lokay5

    Japanese Cabinet(including Yukio Adano)unaware of the existence of SPEEDI…

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20120228_05.html


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  • kintaman kintaman

    And people still think I am "overly sensitive" or "panicky" for having left Japan last year. Insanity.


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    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi kintaman

      I call you "Lucky" that you were able to leave and "Smart" enough to leave there.

      "overly sensitive" and "panicky"….No, I don't think so..


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    • elements

      @kintaman
      Its Everyone for himself and Gawd for us all even the so called clueless elites have no recourse as these elements continue to disperse…and they are dispersing.What to do??Well I guess wait for that inner voice in your head??NOT
      You remind me tho' of this joke…

      As the Lone Ranger and Tonto were riding along towards the north,
      they spotted a war party of 50 Apaches coming at them. They turned
      south and spotted a war party of 100 braves coming at them. Then,
      they turned east and spotted a war party of 150 braves coming at
      them. Finally, they turned west and spotted a war party of
      200 braves coming at them.
      The Lone Ranger turned to his friend and said, "Well, Tonto,
      this is the end, there's not much we can do."
      Tonto looked back at the Lone Ranger, and replied, "What you
      mean WE, white man?"

      Be Tonto..and Proud..:)
      The White man obviously the elites.
      p/s Hope the above analogy doesn't offend anyone.thx


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      • elements

        And when you are in the right place like Tonto you need Not worry about all the "dangers coming at you from all over.


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      • Laterlukemayb Laterlukemayb

        Clueless to what, that it's your people that are actually running the show?


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        • Laterlukemayb Laterlukemayb

          I'm not the (elite) but all the same, thanks for the clue. :)


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          • elements

            TERRIFIED,OVERWHELMED,INABILITY…THESE WORDS do not describe leaders(elites) that are supposed to be in charge to make the tough calls from the report above.(Clueless??!!)

            2.a·nal·o·gy   
            - a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based: the analogy between the heart and a pump.

            -similarity or comparability: I see no analogy between your problem and mine.

            -a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects.

            3."Clueless to what, that it's your people that are actually running the show?"

            My people are mostly black..how about yours?
            4."I'm not the (elite) but all the same, thanks for the clue."
            I believe I addressed this forum and NOT you directly..sorry you feel accused.

            And lastly the whiteman analogy can be anyone at the wrong place at the wrong time…in the context above.It can be even me..get it???Elites can also be the industry stakeholders/owners who have no idea/clue as to what to do when things go KAPUT..but run around like headless chickens.Shouldn't there have been a backup plan OR well revised procedure for worst case scenerios..just sayin'


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            • Laterlukemayb Laterlukemayb

              Not really into jousting about this little tid bit of trying to vent frustration of yours, but you DID direct it to this forum of which I am a part of. You also posted a racist joke. Then stated you hoped no-one was to offense to that joke. I personally did not take offense to your joke. What I addressed in my post was your statement "so called elites" by which YOU identify YOURSELF as the ELITE.

              To be "Elite" does not necessarily mean one has wealth nor power but the ability to take advantage of that wealth or power, but I would say they DO have both, it's just not visible to the clueless!

              Like I said before, thanks for the clue!

              What are words for when they don't mean anything anymore – by Missing Persons

              Hope you have a Great Day Element :)


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              • elements

                @(elements)=Laterlukemayb
                You must be an American…

                So lets see what i wrote..
                "Its Everyone for himself and Gawd for us all even the so called clueless elites have no recourse as these ELEMENTS continue to disperse".

                elements above…radioactive particles..strontium,Cesium,plutonium, Uranium etc etc..NOT TO BE CONFUSED BY MY MONIKER…I like to through it in from time to time…I like the moniker cuz it says I and you and everyone else here, every living and non-living thing is a composition of elements that have been on earth since its inception..when we die we all are broken done to those to be used and re-used to infinity.You crack up..thx 4 the laugh..


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      • James2

        I believe the shills at Enenews have gone Tonto recently…


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      • Misitu

        The "joke" of course is that "tonto" is spanish for STUPID, hence the Lone Ranger has a "stupid" [native american] indian for sidekick – what sentimentality is this able to perpetuate [ps am a whitey married into a native family for some two decades]

        Of course, the whole thing is a neat compositional reversal, given that the north american native culture was eventually wiped out by the simple means of the slaughter of millions of buffalo

        This "manifest destiny" was a neat trick. Prize Question: is it still in use?


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        • elements

          Did NOT know what Tonto means..so I apologise sincerely if it was offensive.
          I did Not look at it from that context (Macro)@Misitu.Just the micro as presented then and then.
          I need a break from here…


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          • Misitu

            it's OK… sometimes one can offend the other half with lack of preparedness ERES TONTONAZO is a half hearted insult

            no, the whole Lone Ranger thing is such an exquisite encapsulation of the whole "Manifest Destiny" thing

            Nowadays I tend to look at the world through somewhat latinised goggles and can't help noticing the aggression that informs our great "culture" at such an implicit level, a bit if you like compared with the dry rot fungal threads spreading through the woodwork of our homes …

            I'm happy to have the opportunity to explain. Very best wishes.

            M


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        • James2

          Ahh if that's the definition of Tonto, then I'd like to revise my statement.

          I think the shills at ENENEWS have been "Tonto" the entire time…


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  • patman

    Such crap.

    One only had to look at the momentary compression cloud over Fk-1 r-1 to know one was witnessing a catastrophic release of energy.

    r-3 even more so.

    These clowns have had 50 weeks to get their lies straight, and nothing can absolve anyone in authority from their responsibility to evacuate civilians.

    A lie is a lie, and when spoken from an 'expert' the price for it should be a court appearance.

    This episode exposes our nuclear industry for what it is and for the power it has to continue a news black out of this nuclear catastrophe.


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  • radegan

    “When we learned the reactors had in fact melted down…”

    SMOKING GUN – if they're melted down, they cannot be in the controlled state of 'cold shutdown'.

    Of course, to admit they have cold shutdown temperatures in the vessel and the reactor melted down, is tantamount to saying it melted through and into the torus or worse. Of course, we all knew that, it likely did that in hours. We NEED to collect a page of admissions of meltdowns and melt thrus so we can throw the page into the face of anyone claiming 'cold shutdown'.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Dear Japanese officials..
    In a time of emergency ..it is the people that are to assume the position of overwhelmed and terrified.
    Your duty as leaders is bravery and efficiency.
    Are you expecting sympathy for you cowardice?
    None given.


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  • James2

    WANT TO LOOK DOWN THE MOUTH OF A BURNED SPENT FUEL POOL?

    Take a look at this video from the Nuckelchen vault from a couple days ago. I had heard they recoreded video but hadn't seen it yet.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/nuckelchenblogde?ob=0&feature=results_main#p/u/14/gsAQeOUGvUA

    OK, pause this video at exactly 49 seconds.

    At that exact point, you can see clearly that a lot of burning has taken place in SFP 4. That's what the "handlers" are allowing you to see…

    But that is not what I want you to see.

    Look behind unit 4. If you've stopped exactly at the 49 second mark, you will be able to see between the crane boom and the side of the #4 building – THERE YOU WILL SEE THE SPENT FUEL POOL RIVER I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR TWO MONTHS – SPILLING OUT THE BURNED OUT SPF3 AND OVER THE SIDE WALL.

    I've caught a glimpse of it twice before – and of course I've been telling all of you about #3SFP burning for quite awhile – to the great skepticism of most and the ridicule of some.

    Proof of such a horrible thing does not prove anything except the sad state of affairs we are in now.


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  • blackbeer blackbeer

    Don't forget James2 that skepticism is why we are all here at this blog. Skepticism is a part of the process we use to discern truth. I'll admit to a certain skepticism toward your observations but I didn't post them because my skepticism includes my own observations. Your observations forced me to look more closely and that's a good thing. To me, being right or wrong about any of this is an exorcize in futility. Sit down and make a list of everything that is known to us about this situation. It is quite amazing how little we know. That is scary. How disasociated we have become from one another, from our planet, from all that is. This is a hard lesson, one we may not survive. But I think we all knew it must happen. As has been said before on this blog, we are on our own in dealing with the effects of our actions. We can either come together as a species and overcome those who have decided that we are not capable of dealing with our own evolution or live in fear of our handlers or strike out individualy and die at their hands. We have a lot of things to decide and not a lot of time to come up with the right answer. That's really where we are at. Fukushima is just the kick in the ass we had coming……………

    Tom


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    • James2

      Thanks for the comment.

      I have no problem with someone debating me or even correcting me about my observations. I generally don't yell "fire" until I'm pretty sure – but still I have been wrong on a couple of occasions – and right on several.

      If you look at what I'm pointing to in the above video – which is admittedly fleeting – you would not see a thing, unless you are me and you know that the #3 SFP had been burning and had left a large black hole in the side of the building – in the one place where the building did not sustain as much damage in the initial explosion.

      You can also compare that view to the overhead photo that was released yesterday, which shows the south wall of the R3 still very intact with the blue and white spotted paint job on it – which, of course is on the case.

      After seeing hundreds of these discrepancies, and studying the photos in detail, I can only conclude that they are still very active in covering up what's going on at the plant.


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    • StillJill StillJill

      Post of the month,…says StillJill!

      Thanks Tom, Blackbeer!


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    • Anthony Anthony

      Good one Blackbeer!


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  • sonnen.blum.239 sonnen.blum.239

    going tonto: Stupidity but even more!!! I like this definition from Wikipedia, but the best is "reactive defence" of "inaction." Also, notwithstanding, Tonto is also a band or subtribe of the Apache Nation. It has nothing to do with describing the lone Ranger's cohort as stupid. But it is, I think an apt use of the word, both in Spanish and italian, but it describes an emotional state of the inability to act, immobilized. And therefore certainly appropriate for the TEPCO CLowns and every other world governement who has turned a blind eye and a deaf ear to the tragedy there in japan which is likely to disfigure and change the course of all life on earth.

    For other uses, see Stupidity (disambiguation).
    Stupidity is a lack of intelligence, understanding, reason, wit, or sense. It may be innate, assumed, or reactive – "being "stupid with grief" as a defence against trauma",[1]

    a state marked with "grief and despair…making even simple daily tasks a hardship."[2]

    Certainly active in coverup, but powerless to stop what they've set in motion, and criminal that they have not come clean to the world of the dangers.


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  • KONDY KONDY

    Directly from the World Nuclear Org:

    Fukushima Daini plant

    Units 1-4 were shut down automatically due to the earthquake, but there was major interruption to cooling due to the tsunami – here only 9 m high – damaging heat exchangers, so the reactors were almost completely isolated from their ultimate heat sink. Damage to the diesel generators was limited and also the earthquake left one of the external power lines intact, avoiding a station blackout as at Daiichi 1-4.

    In units 1, 2 & 4 there were cooling problems still evident on Tuesday 15th. Unit 3 was undamaged and continued to 'cold shutdown' status on 12th, but the other units suffered flooding to pump rooms where the equipment transfers heat from the reactor heat removal circuit to the sea. All units achieved 'cold shutdown' by16 March, meaning core temperature less than 100°C at atmospheric pressure (101 kPa), but still requiring some water circulation. The almost complete loss of ultimate heat sink proved a major challenge, but the cores were kept fully covered.

    Radiation monitoring figures remained at low levels, little above background.

    There is no technical reason for the Fukushima Daini plant not to restart.


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  • sonnen.blum.239 sonnen.blum.239

    Hard to believe this as the truth. I say invite those who make these statements to work at Fuku cleaning up the mess. You'll see how cold it is…and how short you will live…and how "all units are cold shutdown by March 16th" which anyone there and anyone looking at the cams, as doctored as they are, can see there is not shut down, only a melt down.

    I wonder where the World Nuclear Org got their information? From the NPP people I'd bet.


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  • iso-tope iso-tope

    Simple timebomb waiting explode. In the 60's GE designs this Mark I BWR reactor. They are installed in the 60's in Japan. In 1972 scientist bring a containment failure design to the attention of GE, they ignore him. He resigns over this. The build these reactors in one of the most earthquake prone zones in the planet. Sure enough a Loss Of Power event occurs at the station so no offsite power to run the plant, during which the Tsunami is wiping out the generators, pumps and whatever batteries they did have that cannot run the really big pumps to keep the reactors cool… Even if they could run them, no water would be circulating.. then The Hydrogen pools and boom. So 40 years it'll all be cleaned up.. pieice of cake. Not.. TEPCO can't manage this.. they are not equipped or ready.


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