CBS: This is really disturbing, sea stars dying by the millions on West Coast — Like the Black Death, only faster and deadlier — ‘Mystery plague’ affecting 20+ species — TV: Disappears from Orange County coast over 2 week period — Expert: “Largest epidemic ever in ocean… Something has changed in marine environment to lead to this” (VIDEO)

Published: July 29th, 2014 at 1:11 am ET


CBS L.A., June 17, 2014: A mystery plague is killing starfish across the West Coast […] scientists are scrambling for answers. Here at Crystal Cove, scientists reportedly found about 200 starfish just in this area. This month, that number is down to one. […] a mysterious disease is eating unprecedented numbers of starfish alive. Amanda Bird, marine restoration coordinator with Orange County’s Coastkeeper: “Within the span of about 2 weeks, they were there, then not there.” […] In the last 6 months, she has seen starfish in Orange County all but disappear. Bird: “I saw evidence of wasting disease… and then there were no sea stars.” […] The disease has wiped out whole populations of sea stars in Orange County. >> Watch broadcast here

Siuslaw News, July 15, 2014: “Last December, [Oregon] had less than 1 percent of sea star wasting. By May 1, more than 5 percent of sea stars were affected. Now, I would say, in some areas, it is up to 90 percent […] If you go down to the beaches, what you are not seeing is sea stars. In April and May, we were seeing a lot of the disease. Starting in June, we were just not seeing the sea stars” –Fawn Custer, CoastWatch

Yale U. (E360), July 17, 2014: “No signs of wasting,” [Ben Miner, Western Washington Univ. biologist] says. “Yet.” […] a few miles from here, almost all of the sea stars are gone […] “This is the largest epidemic we have ever experienced in the ocean,” says Drew Harvell, a marine epidemiologist at Cornell University [and] might hint at larger, more troubling questions about the overall health of oceans […] “Something has changed in the marine environment to lead to this unprecedented scale of an outbreak.” [Peter Raimondi of UC Santa Cruz says,] “during warm water events, I would not be at all surprised to see it move between species.” […] A couple of weeks after I was with [Miner], he returned to the site we had visited to find telltale white lesions […] Soon after that, all the sea stars were dead.

Islands’ Sounder, July 19, 2014: For one researcher, it is clear – [sea star wasting is] not as drastic as reported [Lab director Russel Barsh] concluded that 7 percent were unmistakably diseased. In the last five months he had observed that about 1-2 percent indicated illness. […] After this story went to press Russel Barsh released the following information: More Indian Island seastars were stricken by wasting syndrome in mid-July as hot weather continued. A systematic survey of hundreds of Ochre stars in the inter-tidal zone found that the proportion of “sick” animals had risen to 49 percent […]

Chinook Observer, July 1, 2014: [There’s] an enormous and mysterious crisis on the West Coast, perhaps indicating more worrisome changes for ocean ecosystems […] this die-off is sweeping through the region, killing millions of starfish over the course of a few days or weeks […] An analogy can be made with the Black Death that killed millions of people […] except that for sea stars this disease is even faster and more deadly. […] Anything killing one type of creature has the potential of becoming a threat to us all.

CBS San Francisco, July 28, 2014 — Dr. Jennifer Scarlett, veterinarian: “This is really disturbing. In recent months, starfish… have been dying by the millions up and down the Pacific Coast. Over 20 species have been affected and it has caused great, catastrophic mortality… If they disappear, they’re worried that it’s going to cause serious ecological consequences… once they fall, we’re not sure what else will crumble.” >> Full broadcast here

Published: July 29th, 2014 at 1:11 am ET


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  2. NBC News: “Grisly disease decimating starfish populations… from Orange County to Alaska” — Scientists: Alarm as they began eating each other, then melting away — Similar problem on East Coast observed since 2011 — Now spreading at “scary” rate (VIDEO) November 2, 2013
  3. MSNBC: Largest epidemic ever seen in world’s oceans hits West Coast — Emergency legislation proposed in US Congress — Newsweek: Millions dead, researchers have lost count — Experts: It’s beyond anything I ever imagined… Disintegrating before our eyes… Never been an event so dramatic… Shorelines losing biodiversity, blanketed in barnacles (VIDEO) October 2, 2014
  4. Experts: Disease explosion in West Coast sea stars — “Extinction event” is pretty close — “Epidemic of historic magnitude… threatens to decimate entire population” of species in Oregon — Sudden 50-fold increase in recent weeks — Entire ecosystem could be disrupted — “We have no clue” (VIDEO) June 11, 2014
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240 comments to CBS: This is really disturbing, sea stars dying by the millions on West Coast — Like the Black Death, only faster and deadlier — ‘Mystery plague’ affecting 20+ species — TV: Disappears from Orange County coast over 2 week period — Expert: “Largest epidemic ever in ocean… Something has changed in marine environment to lead to this” (VIDEO)

  • Earth is in the early stages of ELE. Life changes are so bad now, acidic levels rising, sunlight depletion, food chain disruption, so many variables so fast have overwhelmed the sea creatures. When FD1 R3 detonated, things took a turn for the worse. A fatal mistake, in a world that has not even fully felt the effects of Chernobyl.

    • 4Yahshua

      7~29~5995 (out of 6000) in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!
      TIME IS SHORT! Yahshua the Messiah returns VERY SOON!!

      Since 1968 I have known that these final years would be BAD. I just did not know how SAD they would be and how ANGRY they can make me. Events now in Israel may indicate endtime events in Bible prophecy are about to happen. The next "Blood Moon" is on the full moon of 10~8~14, Succoth, Feast of Tabernacles. Prophetic events will bring MUCH MORE RADIATION! Please take spiritual and physical measures NOW if you have not done so to prepare for this!
      Survival blessings to you ALL!

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        4 Yahshua, (7~29~5995 (out of 6000) in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse")

        You have faith in prophecy. Does it include the rapture and being saved by the "second coming"? Not a rhetorical question; Maybe Abe and several other pro nuke imperialist power players think the same thing. I have long thought that the variety of belief systems that expect personal salvation (and there are many!) are dangerous because they absolve nukers from responsibility for the future seven and more generations.

        Surely its the height of ego-centrism to believe that ones own tribe and species is the one to be saved by THE supra natural force…I think theres no way around it. On that basis alone, its at best highly questionable, and at worst grotesquely dangerous. Lets hope that Abe, Cheney, and the other elites are not counting on it like the other faithful here!

        • Time Is Short Time Is Short

          It isn't what we believe. It's what THEY believe.

          And THEY believe some serious whack shit.

          It's a good thing we allowed them to take over. /sarc

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            seriously whacko ego-maniacal exploiters rose to power on the money of civilians who were working trying to survive. But it happens all the time!

            The weaponry of the U.S. alone is a testament to imperialist/military/industrial insanity. Add a half dozen more cabals and its amazing the planet doesnt spin out of orbit on its own gas like a rogue balloon. Lord knows theres enough methane for it….hmmm, an idea for "Him" Too bad he stopped for a rest at six days, cause by then it was too late and the pesky ratmen were running loose out of his control. Not too brilliant

  • Jebus Jebus

    Every nuclear power plant on Earth, sits in a sacrifice zone…

    • MFX 1209

      How do you figure?

      So many many ways to go. Why just pin it on nuclear? It seems to be the whipping boy here for many angry antinukes.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

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      • nedlifromvermont

        Yes we are angry.

        What could it be?

        It couldn't be the wanton loading of toxic radionuclides into the ocean, up-current, at Fukushima Daichi!

        Even though horse mussels bio-concentrate the actinides at ten to one hundred times the rate of the other mussel species;

        And horse mussels are the favorite food of the sea star;

        No! It couldn't be that!

        Because greedy and ruthless businessmen don't want it to be that!

        That might be bad for worldwide reactor sales; or the worldwide criminal pursuit of uranium ore to mill, enrich, fabricate and sell to reactor customers, so most of the energy released in this unnatural setting can be wasted as waste heat, or i-phone chargers left plugged in, when the i-phone is charged, so teens can chat, text, sext, and tweet;

        No! It couldn't be the radiation. It couldn't be the sun which lights the Earth, during daytime.

        The human race couldn't possibly get along without nuclear energy projects;

        The perversion of greed and influence peddling will soon become apparent, even to the most hard-headed pro-nuclear anti-abortionist.

        As he lies on his death bed, thinking back over all that quality time spent brewing poison, basking in the radioactive glow of his obscene paycheck;

        No one cries for the jobs lost in the guard program at Ausschwitz;

        Why would we bother if one or a million greedy nuclear blood suckers has to bust his butt to do some honest work, like splitting wood, cutting grass or burying dead sea…

        • Ned, you saw the data on horse mussels in alaska? their radiation accumulation went up as much from Fukushima as it did from direct atomic bomb tests on some Alaskan islands.

          Wrap your head around that.

          Multiple article at Nukepro, search for Alaska

          Nukepro is the proper number one hit on Google

          • ++++++++++++++

            Certainly brings it home doesn't it. Helps people easily understand comparative amounts and effects.

            • I was freakin shocked when I discovered this from data mining. I mean if the increase was 5% compared to a direct hit nuke bomb, that would be amazing.

              BUT it is EQUAL!

              • Time Is Short Time Is Short

                While explosive, roughly speaking the radiation from a nuclear weapon is restricted by the size of its' radioisotopic core.

                An exploded NPP with thousands of tons of nuclear material is a far different animal, killing for billions of years.

                Fukushima was 4 NPPs, soon to be 5. When they abandon the site, it'll soon be 6. When Daini goes, another 4. That'll be 10 exploded NPPs within, oh, maybe 20 years.

                There's no fixing what's coming.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Tip it good.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Nedli, with all due respect, you're mixing your metaphors and using labels a bit freely here. So can we please keep it on topic and subject?

          Other than that, a most excellent rant and a succinct summary of why the nuclear bloodsuckers have so much power and are so entrenched.

          So many of us exposed to this, everyone on earth, and all life, without our consent.

          That should be the title of an anti-nuclear novel, Without Our Consent.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Nice, but every Nuclear Power plants on this Earth creates a new Sacrifice Zone! 🙁

      If you live near one or down wind/current from like hell. 🙂

      Move, get out of Dodge now, since there is no guaranteed safety in their operations.

      Many are now operating way past their planned/designed shutdown and 30 year lifespan. 🙁

    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Every nuclear plant is a sacrifice zone. Absolutely right. The German Kikk Study and the French Geocap study found increased childhood cancers the closer they got to any nuclear power plant. These involved thousands of children, so the data are sound. Of course, all they looked for were childhood cancers, and they still tried to downplay the results. Nonetheless, every plant area is a sacrifice zone. As soon as you shut down the plants, the children in the wind path stop getting so sick. This is with normally operating nuclear power plants!

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture


    Wind and sea currents points to Fukushima.

    • Sickputer

      +311 TBP

      Starfish are unique in that they don't have typical blood systems. Their vascular system sucks in sea water for nutrition. The water is carrying toxins.

      Swim, surf, and boat at your own risk in the affected coastline areas. You can't see the toxins so there is deniability by authorities. You're on your own for your family personal safety.

      Billions of exterminated sea stars speak a warning from the tidal graves.

      Nuclear proponents have little to say about this except that its just natural wasting disease.

      Is it? You decide.

      • MFX 1209


        Other than massive dieoffs that occur in nature, there really isnt anything to say about it.

        I doubt very much that it was related to Fukushima. Since you can go to areas closer to FD and find many starfish. Why is this so different?

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        • zogerke zogerke

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      • Nice work. I was looking at "what" they eat, but you went a step further to see "how" they eat:

        [what they eat –
        "Starfish are powerful hunters and primarily feed on mollusks. Their main sources of food are clams, oysters sand dollars and mussels, which are usually attached to rocks or otherwise unable to escape quickly. They also eat snails and injured fish, when they can find them. Not all starfish hunt for meat, however. Some species find decomposing plants and animals in the water or on the beach and consume them, making for much easier prey but lower nutritional value and increased competition from birds. Other starfish hunt in the water, catching sponges, plankton and even coral for their dinner."

        • [how they eat][imagine re-swallowing your own radioactive stomach several times over each day…]

          "How do Starfish Eat?
          Looking at a starfish, you may find yourself scratching your head. It doesn't have any eyes, nose or mouth visible, so what exactly does a starfish do with its prey, even once it has caught them? The truth is that starfish are actually very clever at staying alive. Their most vulnerable parts, including the mouth and stomach, actually face the rocks or ground they cling to. When a starfish has captured a mollusk, it first wraps itself around the creature tightly. Then it uses its powerful arms to break the muscles that hold a mollusk's shell together, exposing the meaty interior. After that, the starfish actually pushes its stomach out of its mouth and eats the contents of the mollusk whole. When it's done, the starfish re-swallows its stomach and begins to digest its meal more fully."

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Beautiful pictures, for all the wrong reasons:

      'Humpback whale surprises dog on beach'

      I hope that Star Trek movie about whales was wrong.

  • sistahawk

    ..not shure what else will crumble…mysterius…but they don't look at the obvious..because it's forbidden..dumb as shit..opend pandoras box long ago – seems to me like fuku 's lost cores where the final nail to our coffin…beyond madness but everything's allrigth….wheeping for our beautiful mother is dying – for greed…in the lands where the blind leading the blind…


      Alas not quite true mother earth has seen this all before. Seek the ancient Indian scriptures.

      She will still spin when the locusts die. They are not required for her survival, but is she required for theirs.

      For centuries they were warned of these very days. Messages through time to a blind and deaf (by choice) people. Acting dumb won't save them. They know, because the great spirit has told them. They choose to not listen.

  • If there are any humans left to write the about this someday, it will be a very sad story about the perpetrators of the grand finale called radioactivity. The worst uncontrollable man made contaminate ever invented to infect water, land and air.

    • MFX 1209

      Its the world we live in friend.

      No one asked for WWII or the Cold War. The Atomic Age took its place in history. One day, the Atomic Age will be remembered as both a good and bad time. Depends on your perspective.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

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        • Shaker1

          No offense meant meant on my part, Anne, or zogerke, but might it strike you those notices are just as tedious?

          • zogerke zogerke

            yes. still a useful strategy. and a way to mark the 'record'.

            open to other suggestions. This tactic limits the back and forth, which was his MO.

            • zogerke zogerke

              personally, i prefer THIS tedious to THOSE lies.

              • MFX 1209

                It just shows people that you refuse to engage in meaningful dialog.

                I get it.

                Keep the antinukes happy by just confirmation bias.

                No big deal. Its your time you are wasting.

                • zogerke zogerke

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                • -1

                  The dialog, mostly one line quips, are not really comments, they are pure hubris.

                  Antagonistic, boring, disruptive and usually lead to off topic.

                  >>> IMO – Perhaps the owner of this site, who is a LAWYER, needs to SUE this guy for HARASSMENT. 😯

                  Maybe an online restraining order of some kind? 😉

                  The evidence is here, other places too, that's for sure. 🙂

                  Stalkers don't stop stalking until they're put in jail. They're brains get caught in a loop and cannot stop. 😥

                  Differences of opinion is one thing. Attempts to destroy the meaning of the aggregated article is a troll tactic.

                  ADMIN: Thank you for you ATTENTION in this matter.

                  • Sparky Sparky

                    ChasAha, Agree 1000%. A "global ignore" would also work so only the troll can view it's on-line posts, which at this point, are really of no value IMO.

                • EKO KLAP$$ EBOLA ALERT


                  Let's play dude.

                  The rocketdyne SRE negligence in Simi Valley California.

                  Is it true that their was no containment dome built on this experimental reactor?

                  Do you as a paid representative of atomic power think that negligence was involved by not building a containment dome above the faulty flawed reactor?

                  Do you as a representative of atomic nuclear power think that liquid cooled sodium reactors are safe?

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    EKO, it is also true the Idaho Falls reactor experiment, where the accident occurred there, also had no containment structure. The DOE's damage control movie states such ….

                    A reactor accident was considered so unlikely, it was thought containment wasn't needed.

                    A reactor accident was thought so insignificant and the location of the reactor so remote it was thought containment wasn't needed.

                    • HoTaters HoTaters

                      It is also true the experimental sodium breeder reactor at Hanford leaked radioactive sodium into the Columbia River and the surrounds of Hanford for years.

                      Shall we go on, MFX of Death?

                    • HoTaters HoTaters

                      MFX, you are dealing with educated people here, not dumbo's you can just blow off by making some non-factual, unsupported assertions.

                      The attempted character assassination attempts you're making are ludicrous.

                      It just won't work. Give it up, dude.

                    • HoTaters HoTaters

                      Attempted attempted and Dept. of Redundancy Dept.

                  • Arizonan Arizonan

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                • weegokiburi weegokiburi

                  Just idle curiosity. Does MFX mean anything?

            • MFX 1209

              Nah. Your colleague is right. Even they are getting annoyed at the tedium.

              Look zog, I can understand why you want to do this. I got the best of you and you dont like it. So you have to lash back.

              Its ok friend. It was just psyops.

              You know you are linking Google more and more to MFX to ENE.

              Do you think ENE would like that?

              BTW why would anyone click on any link that looks suspicious?

              I got you good, it was fun, but now its getting boring for you.

              I feel kind of sorry you were reduced to this level.

              THe exercise just shows that you cant stand losing.

              Ok Ill stop.

              • zogerke zogerke

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                • MFX 1209

                  I think you are heading for a breakdown.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

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                  • Shaker1

                    MFX, you're just as tedious, and just as childish taking the tack that you do. Stating that you like the pique? That's not childish?

                    Admin, this has gotten ridiculous. You need to shut it down. I moderate a discussion site and tolerate just about anything, but tolerating stated intentional disruption? C'mon.

                    • +1

                      "Admin, this has gotten ridiculous… C'mon"
                      – Shaker1

                    • Arizonan Arizonan

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                  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

                    Been there, done that. It was weird.

              • retali8 retali8

                Mfx says "okay ill stop"!!
                Yes please stop posting here,
                we will kindly show you the exit door

              • WW

                @MFX1209: Do you know what "facing the basket" means?

              • Sparky Sparky

                MFX 1209 said above, "BTW why would anyone click on any link that looks suspicious?I got you good, it was fun,…." in reference to the p0rn link he posted on Fukushima-diary's website chat room.

                So he admits it–again–his malicious intent re-revealed. He's still a pro-nuke Dorkus-Maximus with a supposed (cough-cough)6-figure salary but can't afford anything but free 40-min. VPN and a phone to conduct his trolling. "I got you good." What a joke!

      • earthsmith earthsmith

        Depends on your perspective, translation: depends if you are normal or a psychopath. Indeed it is the world we live in MFX. See you can tell the truth sometimes….atta boy. Me personally don't mind you because you can never respond with proof….just degradation and name calling. This in turn proved you and your bosses complete desperation and also exposed you as a hypocrite with no real value unless you can follow your script. But that is what weak souls and limited minds do…do what they where instructed to do.
        See the real difference MFX is most here have admitted to liking their energy and modern comfortable such. But we are ADULT enough to squarely face the dilemma and understand the problems of the toxins we create through the explicit use of energies. We all agree here it is atomic soup of hell.
        But radiation is supreme ruler of that hell and kills all in it's path on a mega generational level. Even a shill as simple as you knows this. And you and your golden kneeled bosses know FUKU is a tipping point and the world is about to buck back against those warm cozy paychecks you so cover.
        Thank you for your insight…armchair or not.

        • earthsmith earthsmith

          Should be: toxic soup of hell….but I guess atomic works…..MFX????

        • MFX 1209

          I offer proof. You just want your proof to be a link or some obscure pub med journal. What I know in my head cant be linked. Books and reports that are off the grid cant be linked. But I have comprehension of them.

          I think that most people here are genuinely concerned about their planet, as am I. We are just on opposite sides of the discussion.

          There are a group of people here who are acting childish. They do this because they cant understand that people of all beliefs and opinions have a right to express themselves.

          My tactics might have spun some people up, but maybe they need to be spun up.

          It was psyops.

          • zogerke zogerke

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            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              zogerke, what are you afraid of?

              These people that show up here from time to time can not win this Nuclear argument.

              Anyone with a brain can see the damage done by this Nuclear Industry and this damage has been well documented over the past 70 years.

              The United States Government and many governments around the world have paid out billions in damages to many thousands of people concerning this current Nuclear Operation.

              People like MFX bring nothing to the big table, except for smoke and mirrors, and none of what they bring can be scientifically backed, since most of it is based blatant lies.

              How many more humans and other biological species will be harmed in the future by these people if we don't face them head on in this battle?

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                Sickputer said to do it this way, I assume with Admin approval. You can respond if you want, but responding with the notices is also an approved way to go.

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  We must believe 100% in our mission and cause. Without fear! 🙂

                  You have been instrumental in bringing Nuclear truth to the big table with your exceptional research/library/computer skills.

                  Very few people in the world currently have your skill set and you should be very proud of what you do.

                  I can not see any of these people disrupting the education your are allowing others to absorb when reading your posts.

                  Sometimes we must step/take a leap of faith in the direction we take.. 🙂

                  Stay the/on course.. 🙂

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                Confronting a psychopath is possibly quite dangerous. Stressors can send one over the edge. I'm sure he knows my exact identity because I took that nuclear engineering class online using my real name.

              • zogerke zogerke

                obewanspeaks…I think he gets off on the banter. I wish to interrupt that. I wish to let all the 22K plus folks on here who don't post know that we have his number, each and every page, each post, each moment. ANd, I will say it again. I want him to go away.

                ANd, re 'fear'; nothing comes to mind – just distaste and a sense of warrior-ness that wishes to continually disarm him (when he isn't busy doing that himself.)

          • earthsmith earthsmith

            You don't think you where being childish too? Come on now.
            Psyops is childish IMO for it is definitely not genuine.
            I don't provide links either but you tell people what they believe is not true then proceed to call them names….damn skippy they are going to want proof or links.
            My dome is chick full of goodies but I will always revisit those goodies with solid research.
            My concern is for the entire planet and all things on it and that includes you and your industry… dismiss anything is pure ignorance.
            Yes many hate you but you made your bed. On the same more these are compassionate,concerned, forgiving humans.
            Try engaging instead of telling or demanding…you might find yourself surprised.
            I hope we do.

          • Sparky Sparky

            OMG, too precious!!! We can't see the troll's proof and he can't post it because it's hardcopy or…IT'S IN HIS HEAD????

            Hah! Hah! Hah! Hah Hah!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

            Silly 'Newsers, just 'cuz we're offering proof as "…a link or some obscure pub med journal" as EVIDENCE, it still don't cut it in the troll's private universe: his over-radiated brain.

            Too much! This really is ridiculous. Admin, pls., "global ignore."

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    This sounds like a story which came out a month or two ago. The only difference is the "Like the 'Black Death' " part.

  • razzz razzz

    They are worrying about a domino effect and losing the bottom of the food chain for starters? Either something else evil is at work or the radioactive fallout from Daiichi is much worse than anyone is letting on. Maybe instead of scientists acting like a thesaurus for bewilderment, scientists will begin using science to answer questions. Unless of course government has taken over ever aspect of mind control and infiltrated every level of public opinion making.

    • We Not They Finally

      I keep remembering what Chris Busby (GREAT anti-nuclear activist) said turned him around. He said that at first he thought there would be some protection in the thousands of miles between Japan and the U.S. West Coast, because the radioactive toxins had to travel long distances. Then he saw pictures of the devastated bottom of the sea. And he realized that (possibly even from reactor 3 alone?) uranium and plutonium had been blown up into the atmosphere, then filtering down into the sea, affecting everything from the plankton on up. From that point on, he called all this "truly terrifying."

      • hbjon hbjon

        Dilution is the solution, though not a good one. One atom of plutonium in your biology is about half as deadly. But then again if that one atom is in a place where crucial life function happens, the toxicity level increases.

        • hbjon hbjon

          Half as deadly as two atoms.

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            It appears those released radioactive atoms are killing everything biological on the affected coastlines… 🙁

        • MFX 1209

          How do you figure one atom? Thats about 1e-20 Sv.

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          • hbjon hbjon

            Obewan, good point. Keep the math simple MFX. 2 atoms of A plus 4 atoms of B= more toxic than 1 atom of A and 2 atoms of B. The energy of A has the potential to displace many electrons from their orbits.

            • hbjon hbjon

              On a tangent. Biology requires a controlled environment where bonds do not separate. So, if there is an atom A or B that decays in a way that causes bonds to break, the atomic bonds will part and unite in other undesirable ways in a region of physiology that will be detrimental to life. If we had a machine that could communicate with the starfish, they would probably be able to tell us what is causing their demise. Wherever we look in nature we see life is an assist to life. The cells that belong to starfish, seals, sea lions, etc. are trying to tell us something. But will we listen?

    • Wyakin Wyakin

      Razz, and others-very good.

      I'd like to offer additional thoughts. It’s easy to perpetuate scientific lies and dogma if citizens are scientifically illiterate.

      Nuclearist propaganda is written by those in control of language, and its representation in academic institutions. Such a plague is upon us.

      Nucelearists have had 70 or so years to disseminate propaganda and dogma parroting which substantiates the claim that LLR is harmless.

      The discipline we now call nuclear physics health, is driven by profit maximizing incentives and has nothing to do with the scientific method. Biology is governed by its own laws, different than those espoused in the field of physics, specifically the immaculate concept of energy transfer, which is immeasurably irrelevant to the micro biological response to internally emitting ionizing radiation.

      In little over 25 years, a group of independent scientific luminaries, which many here recognize, media outlets and bloggers, have framed a basic argument against the misappropriation of the scientific method to support claims of NPP safety.

      This momentum will not be changed, despite the efforts by detractors.

      Empirical scientific evidence speaks for itself. Nuclearist dogma will eventually be widely recognized as corrupt and fraudulent science. While there is no doubt it will be relegated to the ash heap of history, the gift of its toxic legacy will survive in each and every DNA sharing being for hundreds of thousands of…

    • Hot and Bothered Hot and Bothered

      Oh my god! Shoveling giant bags of ice down a tube??
      Yeah that'll stop the coriums! Hahahahahaha =[

    • Shaker1

      That ex-skf article was very disturbing from the point of view that one wonders if anyone in Japan with any real sense will have anything to do anymore with Fukushima. You'd think they were preparing a cooler for the beer. I'd bet those workers would have wished that was what they were doing. I'b bet it was pretty hot in those suits.

    • davidh7426 davidh7426

      Make mine a 'strawberry slushy'…

      Hold the the caesium, the strontium, the plutonium…

      Tell you what, make that a caffeine free, radiation free, low cal, 'cherry slushy' to go…

      With a little umbrella on top 😉

    • bo bo

      Hmmmm I wonder what they're REALLY cooling…
      Recriticality? Dead bodies? I mean the pics seem to show them cooling trenches… but…

      Btw @ nuts and bolts people → what is this ??
      Temp of unit 2 primary containment vessel ( Celsius),26,27,28

      • bo bo

        Could be a cover story to give explanation for all the ice they're having to order…?

        • Shaker1

          I saw that Unit 2 temp was up, too. I need to look again at all the data from whatever robotic work has gone on there to refresh my memory. Seeing Unit 2 is an anomoly (the building intact), making the same assumptions as to what the condition inside that unit because of what's seen in the others might be a mistake. Interesting to me all along was that it's been stated that Unit 2 was the worst of emissions. (Personally, I think that conclusion in itself is wrong and due more to measurement capabilities than anything.) So might it the heat-potential of the melt itself be different?

          I believe it's been conjectured here that the water in the trenches is hot temperature-wise. (I need to check the amont of water they're still throwing at Unit 2.) The water being hot still doesn't make any sense of throwing water ice and dry ice into the trench; that's just plain stupid and if nothing else the simplest thing that could be done, which one would think would have been done first, not months in. Maybe I should read Tepco's report to METI on this trench as apparently what was cited as a 'trickle' of water flow is hardly that. I'm wondering now if there is hot water flowing through some of that piping, not in the trench itself, and maybe Tepco won't say because they don't want to say where that water is going? So, the piping itself is acting as a heater there in the bottom and they'll never freeze into a wall?

          • Shaker1

            And did you see Fukushima diary yesterday? "Japanese Gov advertises for worldwide ideas to remove molten fuel from 3 crippled reactors"

            Iori linked to this:


            I viewed the page in machine translation as sometimes I wonder if I really understand Iori's translations and whether this might be satire. The translation I viewed confused me more.

            Could this really be true? They may as well post to Craigslist…

    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Aren't those photos hysterical? TEPCO employees shovelling ice to help cool the mighty ice wall. Radioactive slushies and slurpies. I had to just laugh out loud when I saw those photos of them shovelling that ice. I have hardly seen anything more ridiculous.

  • alasanon

    How can people on the California coast not be aware of this??…

    If I owned multi-million dollar property there, I would be pressing for tests since day one!!!

    This is about the expected time frame for the toxic currents from the Fukushima disaster to arrive on the U.S. West Coast….

    I'm so sorry for all the millions of gorgeous, amazing life forms in the path of that. God have mercy!~

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Ionizing radiation released from Fukushima is breaking down/dissolving the starfish calcium carbonate shell structures.

      Another reason to shut down all Nuclear Power Plants worldwide since they are not safe to operate and their 24/7 released poison eventually kills biological life. 🙁

      • MFX 1209

        That correlation has not been proven obe.

        As much as you would like to blame NP, I think that many starfish actually thrive near thermal power plants. My experience there.

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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Here is the proof needed and verified by patent… 🙁

      • I knew when the first reports started that there would be much disbelief and dismay as the currents brought the radioactivity into previously unaffected parts of the coastline. When the pictures of the beaches in Puget Sound showed the starfish melting into goo it broke my heart. I had lived at Alki Beach in Seattle in 1961 and know the area well.

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        Thank you obewan for still sharing your info in a wise and dignified way. No one should have enough power to take us off course. No hacker should be able to divert us from our focus here. I have stopped replying too. Wasted energy. We have many better things to do. Thank you.

      • hbjon hbjon

        Spot on as usual Obewan. Molecules
        undergo chemical replacement after getting zapped by certain types of ionizing radiation.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Many people on the West Coast are well aware of the radiation. They are selling their properties, mostly to ignorant Chinese trying to launder dirty money, and getting the hell away from here.

      I'd move, too, but at this point the situation requires I stay. I might live longer in South America, but in a year or two all the expat Gringos are going to be slaughtered by the locals, unless you can afford your own army. And even then . . .

      And Africa? Hahaha. Nah, I'd never pass for a local anywhere but where I am. Good enough.

  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    Kevin Blanch spoke with an oncologist in California who said his leukemia unit is up 50 percent over the past two years!
    (At 1:25 into video)

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    "catastrophic mortality"

    …at least they are saying it now.

    But still funny to me why no academic yet dares to point a finger at Fukushima as the cause.
    Something about 3 rogue underground nuclear reactors cooled only by the constant wash of groundwater would be nice.
    Perhaps that sort of description will be coming soon from an academic near you…

    There are many interconnected ecosysytems on Earth, like the Pacific Ocean Ecosystem, and the Atlantic Ocean Ecosystem.
    But there is only a single Biosphere.
    One interconnected global ocean.
    One thin layer of atmosphere over land and water.
    The human race never appreciated just how limited the Biosphere is, nor how vulnerable to human activity the Pacific Ocean Ecosystem would prove to be.
    The Biosphere of Earth is not vast.
    It is tiny.

    Where is the damn corium, TEPCO? 😉

    • Shaker1

      "The great god Pan is dead…"

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      The consequences of pointing directly at Fukushima would be devastating for all science, since these Nuclear Power Plant Time Bombs are sitting all over the world.

      If we have all been lied too for 70 years concerning Manmade Radiation Contamination then all scientific principles will be brought to the floor for re-evaluation.

      Therefor they must all hide behind the curtains as long as they can. 🙁

      • MFX 1209

        The past 70 years are a part of history obe.

        There isnt anything you or I can do to change it.

        We just have to start from the here and now, and write our own history.

        I gotta go to work.

        See ya.

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        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          "We just have to start from the here and now, and write our own history."

          I don't know about the "just" part.

          But there is a certain acceptance ..that while others wait for the 'mushroom clouds" ..we have already entered a post nuclear world.

          This acceptance however doesn't mean ..we aren't to fight the clowns that brought the circus.

          "There isnt anything you or I can do to change it."

          True.. we can't change the effects ..we can't stop them.
          It's our fate.'
          The fate of life on Earth.

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        The nuclear industry has managed to hide the effects ..but the REALITY ..of the effects of Fukushima ..will be too vast to be able to pin on other reasons and consequence.

        The situation is on-going.. observation on-going ..hypothesis on-going.
        People want solid answers to cause and effect.
        It's too soon.

        It will only be after ..Humans witness and endure ..this in so many species ..that other reasons will not suffice.

        Then perhaps ..cognition ..if radiation has not effected their neurological processes.

        (By the actions of our world looks like it already has)

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        Obewan, we have definitely been lied to for 70 years. Even in 1950, when they started the study of the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki (waiting five years for many to die first, though they are still dying to this day), and then only looking at the dose from the initial gamma, ignoring all the radioactive fallout in people's food and water, that was the beginning of the lie. When they did the Trinity test in NM July 16 1945 they knew the fallout was bad, and they lied. People near Alamogordo now have increased rates of brain cancer. Some Los Alamos scientists cooking steaks in the desert that night discovered they were radioactive because they had the equipment to detect it. They buried the steaks in the sand and left in a hurry. Every uranium mine is a sacrifice zone. Every yellow cake processing plant is a sacrifice zone. Every enrichment plant is a sacrifice zone. Every nuclear weapons plant is a sacrifice zone. Every nuclear power plant is a sacrifice zone. Every place depleted uranium has been used is a sacrifice zone. Every nuclear waste site is a sacrifice zone. This needs to be brought out not the light over and over, for as many years as it takes, until they shut them all down. The sooner they shut them all down the sooner the isotopes can actually decay without having new ones added, and the sooner the earth and all living things can heal. Even if it takes a quarter of a million years. It is worth fighting for NOW.

    • Interconnected. The proof is in the disconnected arms of millions of starfish trying to crawl away from the radioactive soup.

    • hbjon hbjon

      Much of the corium had thrown itself apart in the beginning. SFP fuel melted through cracks in the pools and foundation as the pools lost integrity during the worlds worst EQ in history.

      Asking TEPCO a question is like talking to a tape player that only knows its baby is constipated and that throwing water on it keeps it from filling its diaper.

  • jec jec

    Ebola for Seastars.

  • Cisco Cisco

    You'd think the folks in Oregon would be smarter than this; but, you'd be wrong. Here's the next nuclear bomb to be built.
    "Gov. Kitzhaber Expects Jobs in Corvallis"…

    • MFX 1209

      How do you figure a nuclear bomb will be built there?

      There is not enough security there.

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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Lets see, a $217,000,000 Million Dollar Grant = Tax Dollars = 100 Jobs = $2,170,000 million per job?

    Never pay or approve another tax increase anywhere for anything inside this country… 🙂

    Average wage/salary in Oregon is what $47,000 per year.

    • yeah when you look at any of those programs it is amazing the level of waste and inneffieciency.

      Average full time equivalent usually around $300,000.

      As a business owner, If I can't keep my average FTE around $60,000 the result is bankruptcy.

      And Big Gov is proud of creating jobs that can't even pass the simpliest of metrics.

      stock out

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        Don't worry, stock. It'll all collapse soon, either that or it will cost $60k for a loaf of bread. Either way, the result is the same.

  • MFX 1209

    The more you do this, the more Google picks up MFX 1209 and categorizes the name to this site, and not the original site it was referenced.

    So you are not doing ENE any favors.

    Pretty dumb I would say.

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    • MFX is a jackass who adds only negative value to the discussion and the world.

      • DebbyS-AbqNM DebbyS-AbqNM

        I see MFX as the only child of a nuclear family, an early teen given everything he wants, his every word a nugget of gold to his wealthy, doting parents. But when he ventures into the real world and tries to show adults that they should stop, listen and bow down to his vast store of wisdom that is Superior To All… he is sadly disappointed and throws bitter temper tantrums and closes his eyes so he won't have to acknowledge the links and holds his hands over his ears so he wouldn't have to hear the laughter. It's sad really.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Im with stock, MFX was a jackass…but Ill add with sadistic/masochistic tendencies on top of lack of remorse, i.e. psychopath. In short, the typical modern day jerk of a rat-man

  • Sickputer

    "…in this photograph (magnified 500 times) shows tracks from alpha particles radiating front a speck of plutonium lodged in the lung tissue of an ape. Alpha radiation from plutonium and other alpha-emitting radionuclides can be blocked by skin or even a piece of paper but it is the most biologically destructive form of ionizing radiation when the alpha-emitting substance is deposited in the soft tissue of internal organs like the lung. The alpha tracks shown above were captured over a two-day period. Lawrence Radiation Laboratory, Berkeley California, September 1982."

    SP: Do you really think one micron of plutonium is safe? Ask the poor ape who gave his life for science:

    Another closeup view of this famous ape lung pictograph:

    SP: Once you get an embedded particle it starts blowing up your DNA in that lung tissue. I guess you could remove the lung, but as far as detecting and excising a small infected area…no chance.

    The good news if there is any is that barring hundreds of plutonium invaders, you will probably live another 10-40 years before succumbing to painful lung tumors. Not a problem for most people 40 and older. But if you are a kid…

    • Thanks for the links SP. More info for the up close and personal file…

    • Sickputer


      The picture of the plutonium explosive speck is not a pictograph (I think my old days of teaching about Folsom man rose to my frontal cortex 🙂

      It is of course a radiograph (aka also called a shadowgraph. a photographic image produced by the action of x-rays or nuclear radiation).

      My apologies…But pixels can be revised easily.

    • razzz razzz

      There are many pathways for plutonium to wreck havoc in a body. Having a flea (hot particle) lodge in lung tissue is only one way. Since plutonium is a iron analogue, anywhere in a body that requires iron is susceptible to radiation poisoning by plutonium. Cell damage could occur anyplace that is near plutonium when a decay takes place. If iron analogue plutonium deposits in the testes for manufacturing future sperms then you are playing Russian roulette with DNA damage of your future generations. Iron analogue plutonium easily travels through the placenta to a growing fetus to interfere with development. Can result in some kind of teratogen like anencephaly. Because plutonium's decay rate is so slow, doesn't make it any less dangerous.

      This besides all the general malaise radiation poisoning can cause when iron analogue plutonium is involved in interfering with a healthy blood supply, liver function or a body generally becoming toxic.

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        Thanks Razz. Iron-analogue plutonium; potassium-analogue cesium; iodine-analogue I-131; strontium analogue calcium.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Ocean Floor Covered With Dead Animals

    The web of life is very fragile.
    Nuclear power reactors cannot be contained, and are not contained.
    A GE Design Flaw made the Mark I Containment too small to contain an accident.
    Now 3 melted cores are lost in nature, probably forever.
    Three of Fukushima Diiachi's 6 reactors melted right through their containment vessels, and right out of their reactor buildings.
    By air and sea, the entire contents of these 3 reactors is spreading across Planet Earth.
    Japan has made NO EFFORT to divert the flow of groundwater under the reactors.
    Japan has made no effort even to locate the missing corium 3 1/2 years into the disaster.

    Boycott all things Japanese.
    Eat NO Pacific Ocean seafood.
    Avoid produce, dairy products, from California and the PNW.

    Where is the damn corium, TEPCO?

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    The nuclear industry is 100% corrupt.
    Nuclear industry caught delivering suitcases full of cash to their politician partners.
    This shit goes on all over Planet Earth.

    • MFX 1209

      What industry isnt corrupt? Start from the top, all governments, all businesses, etc. Seems that the cards are stacked against the little guy.

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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    It must be understood by now that eventually Nuclear Technology will deliver death to the entire's only a matter of time now. Mankind has chosen very unwisely… 🙁

    • MFX 1209

      Nuclear warships are designed for that purpose. Thank God they are on our side.

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  • Have *ALL* the "scientists" been brainwashed? Had a lobotomy? Drunk the KoolAid? Been Bribed? Threatened?

    Where are the rogue scientists with independently funded labs?

    • Arizonan Arizonan

      No, not all the scientists have been brain washed, only those in the pay of the nuclear industry. If you look at the low level radiation thread you will find references to peer-reviewed literature on the harm caused by low level manmade ionising radiation. Also, the 2010 report of the European Committee on Radiation Risk (ECRR) is available for free online and it has a very up to date summary of the recent research in the field, and a bibliography.The link to the report is here:
      And here is a presentation by one of the authors, Prof. Chris Busby, speaking to the European Parliament on the difference between ECRR and ICRP estimates, and which agency utilises a predictive model which most accurately reflects the reality of the situation:

      • You are right, and I was being very cynical. The problem lies with funding and acceptance of findings (or lack of) and media bias.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Arizonan, its not that there are still some good scientists…the incredible thing is HOW FEW good ones stand up and HOW MANY lie…this includes how many Universities, Government and international authorities. The word authority is as attractive to psychopaths as is dog excreta to blowflies.

        • Arizonan Arizonan

          Quite true. One wonders how so many of them can keep it up. I think it is because so many are trained in the same mold, and their teachers were trained in the same mold, and their teachers before them created a vast net of lies to hide their crimes against humanity, and these have been repeated in physics and oncology departments ever since.

  • Nick

    "Only like this," he said softly, gesturing amidst the wreckage of the shore. "And only for the living." He stooped again, oblivious of my curiosity, and skipped another star neatly across the water. "The stars," he said, "throw well. One can help them."

    Star throwers are having a harder time finding the living stars.

    Any time we witness a decline in a species, all of us need to take note and ponder the implications.

    Consider the starfishs' demise to be a harbinger of things to come.

    I don't care if Fukushima can be ruled out as a contributing factor in the lowered immune response in starfish.

    Fukushima is am unknown known.

    Nuclear technologies exist due to lack of compassion for those who would throw sea stars back into the sea, a hubris of a most deadly sort despite the refuters who cling to the myth that decaying atoms are a trivial biological nuisance.

    • poetic

      I never knew about the star throwers. cool. too bad the ocean is poison now.

    • When I lived in Port Angeles, WA, there were certain beaches we'd drive to because some were great for agate picking. One bay was famous for the amount of sand dollars. So many in that particular eco-system, fun to collect…much fun to skip. I've seen no mention yet of how the sand dollars are doing.

      So many critters to warn us. So little time left to acknowledge their demise.

  • Time to protest the criminally stupid scientists; research universities be damned.

  • Nick

    Humans have dispersed decaying atoms throughout the biosphere.

    That is a fact.

    TATAL tells us that it is probably not a healthy way to inhabit a planet.

    Since radiation is toxic at the atomic level, it stands to reason that organisms are affected at the atomic/molecular level, even subatomically.

    Very dangerous.

    • Low level radioactivity kills the most sensitive life forms first. We are the witnesses.

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        It really isn't 'low level' anymore. We're now moving into 'medium level'.

        It could be said that the entirety of North America is 'high level' now anyway. There is already too much biocollapse for any of this to be considered less than 'medium level'.

        We need to move on past 'low level' and call it what it is.

        • Arizonan Arizonan

          Actually I find the low level/high level discussion still useful. The nukes say anything under 0.1 Sv is low level, but that is already too high. They say there is no proof of harm at those levels, but their own work disproves this. Hiroshima and Nagasaki children exposed to much less than that are now getting more cancers per radiation unit than people who were older at the time, and more than people who got high levels of radiation in the blasts. This is because high level radiation just outright kills the cell or organism, whereas low level radiation allows the cell or organism to go on reproducing itself in a damaged way. No, North America does not yet have high levels, but we have been blanketed with various low level exposures for the past seventy years, starting with the exposures we and our parents/grandparents got from nuclear testing, then whatever we have received from dental X-rays and other medical procedures, plus the regular hits from nuclear reactors, some plutonium from snap satellite that burned up in atmosphere in the 1960s, and everywhere on the planet got a little chernobyl and fuku, but more so in high rainfall areas, where cancer rates are now usually highest. So, the distinction between low and high is still useful. If North America had high levels we would be all very sick or dead by now, and we aren't, not all of us. It will take several decades for it to bioaccumulate to a higher level.

          • Time Is Short Time Is Short

            Would we see such a massive level of bio-collapse this soon after 3/11, just over three years, across all of North America and the Northern Pacific, if it was only 'low level' fallout distribution?

            No, we are well into 'medium level' contamination, and rushing towards 'high level' by the month. It is bioaccumulating and biomagnifying by the second.

            • Time Is Short Time Is Short

              Add some forest fires and tornados, and stir.

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              All my hoses have pin hole leaks in them and not uniform at all and very sporadic like something fell on them from the sky…fuel fleas come to mind. 🙁

              • Time Is Short Time Is Short

                Imagine our lungs and throats with fuel flea pin holes.

                Our flesh is a lot less tough than hose rubber.

            • pockets of high level rads in the US have registered since at least last November – CPM ranges from 300 and up in some areas, consistently – Montana, Florida, Colorado just to name a few. That CPM range, I do believe, qualifies as high level radiation exposure events.

              • Arizonan Arizonan

                I've been traveling with a PRM 9000 that measures alpha beta and gamma. The 300 CPM spikes are a cause for concern, but this is not the norm. California is measuring higher than its pre Fuku background, but it is still lower than Arizona's normal background. I have measured radiation from California to Ohio and I can tell you that so far the 300 CPM to 1200 CPM readings were at the Grand Canyon near an old uranium mine, and on the Navajo Reservation at abandoned uranium mines. Most white china from China measures at the 100 CPM range, and we get rid of it. I agree rad levels are slowly riding, but that doesn't make them 'high' yet. It will be a few more years I think.

                • Is Colorado Springs near that area? Miami, Jacksonville, and Tallahassee certainly are not.
                  I respectfully disagree. It's high already and has been since at least last November in some areas.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                    Colorado Springs is in Colorado and nowhere near the Grand Canyon which is in Arizona.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      There is an Air Force base in Colorado Springs, and lots of old uranium mines above and to the west of Colorado Springs in the mountains.

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              The problem is that the earth wasn't in pristine mode before Fukushima. It was suffering from way too much radiation even before Fukushima.

              I also think that there were maybe 15 meltdowns at least in Japan. It is much worse than they have admitted. There were a number of experimental reactors at Tokai and Rokkasho in the north was probably also damaged.

              The reason they admit nothing is that the truth is just too terrible. From any point of view wars are completely senseless and it no longer matters who "wins". There will be no winners. We are all already losers. We lost the world with the Trinity explosion. The scientists expected the whole world to explode. It was not instantaneous as they expected, but it will be quick anyway.

        • Chronic and cumulative.

          How long, what kind and how much?

          That is the 3 part question…

          Of course, no one is testing anything that matters in the US, or so it seems…

          Who is testing the TOTAL internal radiation load in children in the USA?

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Very dangerous behavior indeed.. 🙁

  • Jebus Jebus

    Very Dangerous.

    You have your brain.

    You see a brain on nuclear power.

    What do you see?

  • Peoples

    Please channel your energy from blood boiling to fight the radiation cartel….before you have leukemia

  • Sol Man

    The Atomic Age will be remembered (who will be around for this remembering!?) for its terminal stupidity and greed; leading us exactly to the ele that the world is experiencing now.

    • Aliens will review the story of little boys with big egos playing with a fire they mostly understood, but yet the burned the house down and killed their families anyway.

  • You will notice no meaningful dialogue from the troll. More like a Monty python skit at best.

    No links, no data. Just promotion of radiation.

    EPA wants to raise the limits by 100 to 200 times.

    That is times folks, not percent.

    They are captured by a sying but powerful bronto. Maybe we can enlist Ron Paul to help us mercy kill that defunct agency.

    • sying, lying, dying, LOL

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      What the average citizen does not know, is that the EPA has no choice, but to raise these limits, since they now understand that they can't stop any of the 24/7 ongoing Manmade Radiation Contamination releases now going on worldwide. 🙁

      We must try to stop this practice, since it is out of a desperation response to an "out of control" Nuclear Industry Practice that must be shut down worldwide..immediately! 🙂

      A candle might get hot and can burn you, while a blow torch will take your skin off to the bone.. 🙁

      This Nuclear Industry needs/must be banned worldwide!

      • melting mermaid melting mermaid

        I don't think Fukushima cares what their stupid limits are. Even if the EPA has a moment of compunction and does the right thing, which would be nice, however unlikely, it's not going to make the meltdowns and throughs and outs any more containable. That's why they should all be shut. They are, once broken, unfixable.

  • The average radiation promoter has delusions of adequacy.

    Killing others whilst hiding behind science gives them a feeling of power.

  • The conca Shill is at it again. Saying the lack of nuclear is what ails Japan, help me out, eh?PS get your comment at the top of the comment stream, this was just published minutes ago.
    Yo big Jim, let me tell you how the radiation industry evaluates risk. They pay a bunch of scientists to write a report that shows the chance of an accident at 1 in a million. But in reality it is greater than 1 in 100, for serious, evacuation type accidents. Around 420 nuke plants in the world. Chrnobyl, Three Mile Island, Fuku 1, Fuku 2, Fuku 4. That makes 5, that is more than 1 in 100.

    I have read gov reports from 2004 still touting the 1 E-6 chance of a particular plant having a significant accident. That is how scientist lie….first they confuse with scientific notation so the average person wants to turn their brain off, then they straight up lie. E-6 is one in a million

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Simi Valley blew up too and that is 6 major Nuclear Reactor Meltdowns in 54 years or about 1 in every 9 years on average and another one might blow up in 6 years! Run like hell! 🙁

      Get out of harms way…

      Shut all these Nuclear Rattle Traps down worldwide, while you still can. Use international law and do this now! 🙂

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        I have counted nine nuclear meltdowns in the last 70 years plus two spent fuel pool explosions. That's counting Fuku as one meltdown though, when it is three plus a spent fuel pool fire.

    • Risk… "freakishly unusual"

      "We need to do a soul searching when it comes to the assumptions" of how to deal with worst case events, said University of Southern California engineering professor Najmedin Meshkati, the panel's technical adviser. Engineers should "think about something that could happen once every, perhaps 1,000 years" but that's not really part of their training or nature, he said

      Lee Clarke, a Rutgers University risk expert and author of the book "Worst Cases," criticized the academy's report as too weak. He said the tone of the report made it seem like the accident was unpredictable and caught reasonable people by surprise " and it shouldn't have."

      David Lochbaum of the activist group Union of Concerned Scientists said "the problem is that federal law financially protects the U.S. nuclear industry from accidents gives utilities little incentive to spend money on low-probability, high-consequence problems."

      • If nuclear did give proper weight to risk, they would be so burdened with costs that they would all bankrupt within years.

        I think we as taxpayers (we will foot all the bill anyway) ought to foot the bill for some PV farms for the nuketards operators. They will fall in love with the simplicity, the lack of regulation, the lack of lies. it will convert some of them to see the pure evil of their ways.

        stock out

        • Maybe force all nuclear power plants to shut down, but offer the workers jobs in the solar and wind arena, as long as they promise not to convert anything renewable to work 'better' with nuclear anything.

          What amounts of renewable energy will the nuclear industry subsidy buy us each year?

  • rogerthat
    Officials shift course on tainted soil storage
    … The administration said in the meeting that it will propose revising the laws and take necessary measures, within 30 years of the start of the temporary storage program, for completing the final disposal of the soil outside the prefecture…

    – the way i read this is that they must within the next 30 years introduce measures which will lead to the EVENTUAL removal of the contaminated soil to some other place. So the temporary dumps will be there for longer than 30 years. And what can you use the land for, once the radioactive dump has been moved elsewhere?

    • The current bags of MOUNTAINS of high level nuclear solid waste are already falling apart. What happens to those mountains as the winds blow the radioactive dust all over the nation?

  • never green--never clean

    This is really interesting:

    Dr. Yablokov reported changes in brain, leading to diminished intelligence and mental disorders from Chernobyl radiation.

    He also reported on these disorders associated with Chernobyl radiation:

    1. Blood and the circulatory system
    2. Endocrine system (diabetes etc)
    3. Immune system
    4. Respiratory system
    5. Urogenital tract and reproductive disorders
    6. Skeletal system
    7. Central nervous system (changes in brain, leading to diminished intelligent and mental disorders)
    8. Eyes (cataracts etc)
    9. Digestive tract (including dental system)
    10. Congenital malformations and anomalies
    11. Thyroid and other solid cancers
    12. Leukemia


  • Sickputer

    Thank you ng-nc for your posting. You get my Enenews accolade:

    +311 🙂

    SP: When I have heard the Dr. speak I am amazed at his calm and collected intelligence. He is a force the nucleoapes try to silence, but they can't refute his studies and his astute observations. Like these remarks in Tokyo:

    "(…speech by Mr. Alexey Yablokov at Anti-Nuclear Power World Congress in Tokyo on 15-16th of December, 2012)

    “Nuclear specialists put the blame on “radiation phobia”.. But this is not a real radiation illness. If that’s so, why did we find the same disorders and mutations in frogs, swallows and field mice and pine trees?”

    Mr. Alexey Yablokov also mentioned that he found that radiation causes, not only developing cancers, but also affects different parts of the body.

    “Radiation caused Disorders of blood and circulation system, endocrine system, immune system, respiratory system, reproductive system, skeletal system and central nervous system.

    Even small doses of radiation will have an effect on those systems during several years of exposure. We have strong evidence from the Chernobyl disaster there is a change to the brain; it’s difficult to prove but radiation has damaged the brain.

    Not only cataracts but also other problems in the eyes, digestive system disorders, and congenital malformation of babies.”

    SP: Even frogs know the lies of Dr. Smiley Yamashita!…

    • Yo sick, those frogs don't smile enough, and those Monkeys dont eat ENOUGH bananas, LOL out

    • Shaker1

      "We have strong evidence from the Chernobyl disaster there is a change to the brain; it’s difficult to prove but radiation has damaged the brain."

      Difficult to prove, maybe, but it makes sense as the brain is a dynamic portion of a dynamic individual system. Hell, it's proven that learning will change brain structure, and claims that phobia is cause of much of reported problems itself relies upon that dynamic, does it not?

      When my doctor implied (in what I think he believed a stealthy manner) in conversation that part of my problem was all in my head, I politely informed him that he overestimated the power of my mind. He felt rather embarrassed that I caught it and had no reply.

      But I know from the reasearch into a condition that I have that is unrelated to our conversation that the brain has such dynamics and it's silly to think that a poisoned body wouldn't have its brain structure altered. That dynamic can manifest quickly. And then we of late have had our own effects with electomagnetic fields (the nervous system is electric; ever had an EEG?). I can't see intellgence in dismissal and without consideration of 'particles' and gamma (on the order of light) and resonance through a system that might not directly reveal presence, but only manifestation.

      Yeah, and 'dark matter' may truly exist…in the space between the ears.

  • jump-ball jump-ball

    "Experts are really disturbed that a mystery plague is killing people across the West Coast".

    Get ready to hear the same response from your state or federal Bureau of Inanity.

    I suspect there are non-gov't. experts who already know what is happening, and are afraid to speak out, or have tried and were silenced.

  • Sickputer

    Feel free to engage the disruptive nuclear industry hacker, but remember the old adage about wrestling with pigs: The pig likes it and you both get muddy.

    I find this hacker to be a minor flea. To be flicked aside without a glance.

    Warning: 26 years of reading millions of Usenet posts and posting hundreds of thousands myself…there will be worse flamers who will visit Enenews. They grow more desperate as their radioactive world and careers begin to wind down by attrition and technological progress.

    I am really surprised that Enenews has survived at all…we must be their pet Winston Smith project. There may be rat face-traps yet to come.

    As for me…I will post a revised notice of civil disobedience to this government hacker. Thanks to ng-nc for the EPA comment addendum.

    No need to post it every time the hacker posts…once a day by 3 or 4 Enenews regulars should suffice:

    To be cont…

    • Sickputer

      Notice: User MFX 1209 is a self-admitted US nuclear industry employee and Internet hacker who by his own admission has been banned from this blog repeatedly by the Enenews admin.

      He uses US government computer resources to circumvent the ban (your government resources at work…write or call your Congressman to complain).

      Do not respond to his postings or engage him in his disruptive mind games.

      Ignore all his postings please.

      If you feel incensed by his deceit and unethical behavior please copy and paste this notice as needed. Once per person a day should suffice. One notice for each thread should be plenty.

      Thank you for your patience in this matter.

      Additionally, every time you see a posting by this US nuclear industry disrupter:

      Please post a comment at EPA's website in response to their proposal to raise allowable dose allowances from nuclear power plant emissions (a huge increase in the radioactive toxins they are currently allowed to vent).

      To submit a comment:!submitComment;D=EPA-HQ-OAR-2013-0689-0001

      Thank you for your support.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      That's the spirit and now we should kick this guy's ass with more truth, since the truth is clearly on our side. 🙂

      The Nuclear Industry should have died/been shuddered in/after 1986 and now with the 3 recent Nuclear Core Reactor Meltdowns destroying the Pacific Ocean ongoing in Fukushima, Japan this should be the Nuclear Industries final death blow! 🙂

      Shut all these Nuclear Power Plants down worldwide via international this now!

      While you/we humans still can. 🙂

    • Good advise.


      >>> IMO – Perhaps the owner of this site, who is a LAWYER, needs to SUE this guy for HARASSMENT. 😯

      Maybe an online restraining order of some kind? 😉

      The admission that this person possibly uses government equipment to troll/hack this site may also be a crime or at least reason for dismissal.

      The evidence is here, other places too, that's for sure. 🙂

      Stalkers (obsessive trolls) don't stop stalking until they're put in jail. They're brains get caught in a loop and cannot stop. 😥

      Differences of opinion is one thing. Attempts to destroy the meaning of the aggregated article is a troll tactic.

      ADMIN: Thank you for you ATTENTION in this matter.

    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Sick, wise insights here that you have shared. There will be more to come, I agree. They will get desperate. Peak oil and peak uranium in 40-60 years.

  • Sickputer

    You have the Force obewan!

    Tear them up as you please. I support you all the way.

    Your friend SP.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      I do not stand alone inside the force, and many powerful Jedi are here with us today, and they must now come too witness and too fight in this Nuclear Technology, front line battle, bringing with them their very powerful blazing keyboards and light sabers of truth in hand! 😉

      • This is one of my TOP 10 favorite comments regarding Nuclear Power.

        "No nuclear power plant was ever needed…"

        +1 From commenter Liz mar 21 2011

        "Our task to work for the curtailment of nuclear energy is large, indeed. At times, it feels even daunting, although urgently necessary. But before sallying forth to do battle where battle should be done, it is always wise to begin with a survey of our own tiny, individual contribution to the problem. No matter how "Green" we all might try to be, how often do we really "unplug" and listen to the still, small voice of a bird in the garden? No nuclear power plant was ever needed to supply energy to create such a simple, perfect miracle."
        – Liz, at (comment archives)

        That's what's important.
        Thanks again Liz, wherever you are.

        • Sol Man

          What Liz had said seems all perfectly true enough, but those from darkness wanted the cash flow, so then they can influence legislation to get more of the same. It was all to further their death program. And, it seems to be working.
          Always grieving here.

  • rogerthat
    … “This first data from non-human primates—the closest taxonomic relatives of humans—should make a notable contribution to future research on the health effects of radiation exposure in humans,” Hayama told The Guardian.
    But Geraldine Thomas of Imperial College London disagreed. “Unfortunately, this is yet another paper with insufficient power to distinguish real effects and relevance to human health,” she told the Guardian. “We know that one of the most damaging health effects comes from fear of radiation, not radiation itself.” She added that humans avoided eating food grown in the vicinity of the breached power plant, when the monkeys could not, which likely affected the nonhuman primates’ exposure to radiation.

    – So there!! So the Japanese doctor who did blood tests on 2000 patients in Tokyo and found that young children there had the same blood abnormalities as the monkeys was harming his patients by causing them to fear radiation? It's a sick world. How do these people sleep at night?

    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Geraldine Thomas of Imperial College London is parroting that old 'fear of rad is worse than rad' adage so beloved by the nuke industry. Such deceipt. So universally repeated almost word for word by nuke spokespeople. We are so tired of this BS. It makes me want to puke.

      She is in charge of hiding the Chernobyl and Wales cancer tissue banks. Wales got it and gets it from Sellafield, especially during its 1957 meltdown, when it was called Windscale.
      Imperial College website: "A senior academic specialising in the molecular pathology of cancer, I am committed to developing infrastructures for molecular pathology research, for use by my own research group and others. I strongly believe that public involvement and information is a key part of academic research, and am actively involved in the public communication of research, particularly with respect to radiation protection and biobanking.
      BSc in Pharmacology, University of Bath 1982

      PhD in Pathology, Welsh National School of Medicine, Cardiff 1988

      Postdoctoral work in Departments of Pathology, Cardiff (until 1992), and Cambridge 1993-2002

      Senior Lecturer in Oncology, Swansea University 2002-2006 promoted to Professor of Molecular Oncology 2006

      Director Scientific Services, Wales Cancer Bank 2007- to date

      Joined Imperial in 2008 as Professor of Molecular Pathology


      Molecular pathology of thyroid and breast cancer

      Tissue Banking

      Health effects of radiation"

  • Wisconsin is attacking solar.
    Ryan is playing the green carbon card
    and Sensenbrenner is not much better….he thinks all is fine as long as Yucca is opened.

    They are both obviously blinded by party politics and a desire to attack Obama, even in the rare instance that Obama is wrong (ruh roh, just upset 47% of the population)

    Please see this statement from Congressman Sensenbrenner regarding the draft report released today by the Blue Ribbon Commission on America’s Nuclear Future.

    “The Blue Ribbon Commission has offered various proposals to fix a problem we don’t have. The Draft Report states that the ‘American nuclear waste management program is at an impasse.’ We would not have this impasse but for the President’s politically-motivated decision to close Yucca Mountain.

    “After years of study, we have not yet seen any sound scientific evidence that requires Yucca’s closure. But rather than following the science, including reports by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the President has jeopardized America’s ability to use nuclear energy and safely store waste.

    “As Vice-Chairman of the House Science Committee, and ranking member on the Energy Independence and Global Warming Committee for its duration, I am frustrated by this Administration’s decision to stall progress on this key part of nuclear energy technology.”

    Picture WIPP to the E6 times

    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Congressman Jim Sensenberger is a Republican from Wisconsin's 5th District. If you live there you can email him. Otherwise if you wish to submit any comments to the Senator about his desire to open Yucca Mountain and keep nuke power going in the US, please do so here: ("call my toll-free HOTLINE number: 1-800-242-1119." (From the Congressman's website.)

      Brookfield Office

      To get help with problems with federal agencies, federal grants, or information on speaking engagements, contact:

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      To email me, click here."

    • It's a dirty little pass the pollution game for sure. Some coal shiz for ya!
      Not in My Backyard: U.S. Sending Dirty Coal Abroad
      Over the past six years, American energy companies have sent more coal than ever before to other parts of the world, in some cases to places with more lax environmental standards. The consequence: This global shell game makes the U.S. appear to be making more progress than it is on global warming. That's because it shifts some pollution — and the burden for cleaning it up — onto other countries' balance sheets. "Energy exports bit by bit are chipping away at gains we are making on carbon dioxide domestically," said Shakeb Afsah, an economist who runs an energy consulting firm in Bethesda, Maryland. The Obama administration has resisted calls from governors in Washington and Oregon to evaluate and disclose such global fallout, saying that if the U.S. didn't supply the coal, another country would. White House officials say U.S. coal has a negligible global footprint and reducing coal's use worldwide is the best way to ease global warming. The U.S. in 2012 accounted for 9 percent of worldwide coal exports, according to the latest data available.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Sensenburger has no idea what he is talking about as far as nuclear.
    What he does know something about loss of freedom.. a proponent of the Patriot Act..knows how much he and his colleagues really screwed up.

    Privacy-Boosted Freedom Act Introduced in Senate

    A measure to end NSA bulk collection has been revised to counter its House companion.
    July 29 2014

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    They screwed up..
    Couldn't know be knowing the Revolution could they?

    Sorry OT.

  • maybesomeday

    Sea Star Wasting Disease map & monitoring info:

  • marq


    We can expect that the animals that prey on sea stars (sharks, manta rays, possibly alaskan crabs) to be adversely affected on the west coast, and we can expect organisms that sea stars feed on (bivalves like oytsers, clams, etc;) to also be affected by the loss of millions of starfish along the west coast (in a local area).

  • Arizonan Arizonan

    Does anyone know why the comments were closed on the last seven forums in our list? This happened at the end of June 2014. Does anyone know the best way to communicate with ADMIN about this?

    • Sickputer

      No I do not know why the forums are crippled for posting.

      But my gut feeling…it's nothing sinister. Best hunch of mine (and worth exactly what you paid to read it) is that the WordPress web software struggles to handle such a complicated high volume website.

      If true we are the victim of our own success (or excess). 🙂

      Anybody who has a few spare million dollars to donate to Admin for webpage expense please step forward.

      Anyone? Anyone? 🙂 If not, relax, use what you are given and hope for the best.

  • Sickputer

    BTW… The question of what about deaths in Japanese sea stars (are there similar dieoffs?) was advanced months ago before our current social gadfly.

    My stock answer…studies in Japan were scarce even before they would arrest you for daring to defy the Japanese State Secrets Act.

    But like 1939 Italy…wow do those contaminated bullet trains run on time! 😉

    Oops…extremely sorry for the use of the word "contaminated"…Lest I be pursued by government ninjas with orders to terminate with extreme prejudice.