CBS San Francisco: “Widespread distrust” of scientists over Fukushima — Official: “People are worried, people want to know what’s going on” — UC Berkeley professor admits much of his funding is from gov’t: If you don’t trust us, who is it you want to trust? Says man-made cesium-137 is “natural background radiation” (VIDEO)

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CBS San Francisco, Jan. 31, 2014: Concerns about radioactive water now stretch from the activism hotbed of Berkeley to the peaceful sands of Monterey Bay. The town of Fairfax has even appealed to the United Nations for guidance on the matter. [...] For an expert opinion, KPIX 5 visited Kai Vetter, a nuclear physics professor at UC Berkeley. [...] there are fears about contaminated seafood [...] not everyone is convinced by Vetter’s assurance that, for now, Fukushima presents no health threats on the West Coast. There is widespread distrust of scientists that some see as too closely related to the nuclear power industry. Vetter admits he receives much of his funding from the Department of Energy, but he insists he has no reason to misrepresent his findings.

Kai Vetter, nuclear physics professor at UC Berkeley

Professor Kai Vetter, UC Berkeley: “That’s a very good question. Trust is something very precious. I certainly live in California. I’m also concerned about my family, my neighbors and my friends. If you don’t want to trust us, who is it you want to trust?”

More from Vetter: “I mean we are living in a world which is radioactive [...] We still see Cesium-137 back from the atmospheric tests in the 40s & 50s. We still see that. It’s, in a way, part of our natural background now.”

John Reed, Fairfax Town Council member: “People are worried, people want to know what’s going on [...] I’m not eating mahi-mahi sushi, it’s good to be careful.”

CBS San Francisco, anchor: “Chances are you have heard the dire warnings about Fukushima radiation, they seem to be everywhere these days, 3 years after the disaster.”

CBS San Francisco, reporter: “For now, testing from Hawaii to California shows radiation levels to threaten human health or marine life.”

Watch the CBS broadcast here

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  • bo bo

    'I’m also concerned about my family, my neighbors and my friends.'

    He's also concerned about keeping his job, and perhaps – not being suicided ?

    California, definitely don't trust UC Berkely!!
    This guy is hired by the Department of Energy


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    • bo bo

      Sorry, forgot who posted this yesterday, but thanks whoever it was.
      Scientists disappear, commit suicide often. Just food for thought

      http://www.rense.com/general39/death.htm


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      • bo bo

        More dead sientists

        http://rense.com/general66/deadmicro.htm

        Now I realize what might be driving Ken Buessler too.. it's not for the money.. it's fear for life


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      • KidIcarus KidIcarus

        Thanks for the reminder, BO. With our understanding of the situation, Vetter's comments take on a tragic tinge of truth amidst his lies.


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        • jump-ball

          Gov't sponsored academia: 'Where the truth lies'.


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          • We Not They Finally

            We don't have to go back very far to previous DOE Secretary, Steven Chu. Apparently much of his funding came from BP and there are lies galore about the Gulf disaster to this day and ongoing. Then on his way out of Washington, his parting "gift" was authorizing metallic radioactive waste to be used in forks and spoons, belt buckles and door knobs.

            Bye, bye, government of the people, for the people, by the people….


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            • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

              The people's government disappeared a very long time ago. When they outlawed self-sustainability, it was over. In other words, it's illegal to live.


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              • unincredulous unincredulous

                http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=105953
                Concrete from hemp
                Madame France Perrier builds about 300 houses per year out of hemp in France. Years ago she researched ways to petrify vegetable matter. During her studies, she found evidence in ancient Egyptian archaeological sites of hemp-based concrete. When she discovered the ingredients of the mix, she duplicated the method. She mixes hemp hurds (the inner fiber) with limestone and water, which causes the hemp to harden into a substance stronger than cement and only one sixth the weight. Madame Perrier' isochanvre is also more flexible than concrete, giving it a major advantage over conventional building materials, especially in areas throughout the world that are prone to earthquakes.

                If we were really free here in America we would be doing this. Finally, hemp is being grown here again, just in time to use this technology to build fallout coffins and die in them…


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              • Discordian

                Very well put, SykeWar. That's the essence of government, "law," and industry since the early 19th century.


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              • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                Consider: I'm not allowed to feed myself; fish, hunt where and when I need to. Can't skin and eat rabbits (remember flint, MI?). Can't chop down trees for shelter. Can't build a fire for warmth. Can't live alone without being shutdown by Nuisance Abatement Teams because they want to steal my land. If you've lost the fundamental right to basic life support, you have no safety net when the system fails. There is no legitimate reason to deny people basic life support. If the modern way is truly better, people would abandon the old ways for the new. Now homelessness is outlawed. Why? So they can round you up. It's not people's fault you replaced a self-sustainable bountiful jungle for an unsustainable concrete one. But of course the American Indian would know more about this than we would. We're learning tho'. :-(


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            • rakingmuck

              The current Head of the DOE Moniz has direct ties (through employment or consulting) to many companies affiliated with both oil and nuclear power. If you read the transcript of his Senate Confirmation Hearing (I did – every single page) you learn he ducked every question regarding nuclear accident clean-ups indicating this is not part of this skill set.

              When asked specifically by Senator Ron Wyden who is the Chair of the committee about Hanford, he was asked to speak with the whistle blowers there are there was great concern about the very real problems at Hanford. Wyden was insistent, to the point of making him promise.Moniz agreed.

              He proceeded to go to Hanford and fire the main whistle blower. When Wyden returned from visiting Fukushima he made bold statements about the scope of the disaster. Since then he approved a nuclear shill as head of the DOE and has been silent Fukushima ever since. I tweet to him almost daily. I welcome others to do the same.


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          • EKO KLAP$$ 2014 atomicistheword

            My friend the cat is out of the bag, your insurance company knows!!!

            Fukushima Radiation causing U.S. Insurance Companies to EXCLUDE all Coverage for Radiation Claims
            Sunday, 02 February 2014

            Turner Radio Network….

            http://www.turnerradionetwork.com/news/251-mjt

            Under the Price Anderson Act, no private insurance company will insure you for atomic accidents. That is what the act is designed to cover. Now if their is a mass claim then your Fukushimad.

            Don't you just love indemnity legislation, your government is working for your benefit. All bow to the god that we trust.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price%E2%80%93Anderson_Nuclear_Industries_Indemnity_Act


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            • The nuclear industry is paid to fail in oh so many ways..

              They fail to pay to build their own stuff, get taxpayer loans, guarantees and subsidies ten times bigger than renewable energy does.

              They fail to clean up their own mess, no answer for nuclear waste.

              They fail to attract investors. No one will invest in nuclear power.

              They fail to pay compensation to those that they harm, and they harm millions of people.

              They fail to get insurance coverage, because no insurance company will cover them

              They fail to disclose the risks.

              They fail to be honest and transparent.

              They fail by blowing up things, destroying all life on the planet

              They fail by having 'accidents' and then get paid to clean up their own messes, again, by taxpayers.

              They fail to even dismantle their own nuclear plants, and taxpayers have to pay for that too.

              They fail to pay for the nuclear radiation compensation funds, because taxpayers pay for that too.

              They fail to pay for things like the storage of nuclear waste, which taxpayers pay for also.

              They fail to pay for things like the cover over Chernobyl, to protect the public from the harm caused by a meltdown.

              They fail to clean up the mess from a meltdown, such as Fukushima; taxpayers pay for that too.


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  • KidIcarus KidIcarus

    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    This is the way the world ends
    Not with a bang but a whimper


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  • Ontological Ontological

    Dead Scientists, a new zombie apocalypse.
    Trust in Berkley, right. That socpuppet shill whom was such an idiot hiding behind his bot, asked why I called Berkley a propaganda sight lol, he was such a typical piece of Government shit. Trust, we got not ONE word about the REAL threat to America from our esteemed idiot leader, not ONE WORD. Trust yes sure trust, in GOD we trust, in government we die. And in money, well you can keep yer shit paper.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    We're not fear mongering..
    But distrust of the scientific community is necessary here.
    The people deserve the opportunity to search for the truth.
    The mainstream science community is all tied into the NSF..the NSF nothing more than the 'long arm'of DHS.. henchman of the WH and cronies.
    Big money interests are involved here within the science communities and industries involved.
    The seafood industry at no point is going to tell truth as to contamination levels…NEVER.

    It's seems all would rather deceive the people than lousy their kuschty jobs.
    They people say can this'cover-up' be this wide-spread.
    Yes.
    The masses were not paying attention ..when Executive orders were written tying up the assets of the country..including intellectual.
    And what doesn't fall under that..is being given willingly..( exchanged with sweaty hands)..as money changes hands between corporate and government.
    (like the sale of DARPA robotics to Google).
    Mainstream science and mainstream media ..can't be trusted.


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  • HoTaters HoTaters

    Cesium 133 is part of natural background radiation, and is an element found in the natural earth.

    Cesium 137 IS a man made isotope, and it is NOT part of normal background radiation.

    "If you don't trust us, who do you want to trust?" (Kai Vetter)

    Well, we certainly can't trust you, Kai Vetter, when you make statements like the one above.

    The first link below provides chemical information on Cesium, and links to other scientific articles.

    http://www.chemicalelements.com/elements/cs.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesium-133#Caesium-133

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cesium%20133


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Doublespeak, doublethink.

      "The cesium" (paraphrased) "is still around from the 50's amd 60's, so in a way it has become a part of our natural background radiation."

      The use of the word "natural" is an outright lie. How easily these people lie to themselves and the public. Shame on you, Kai Vetter.


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      • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

        agreed HoTaters. I also got a kick out of that 'definition' of "natural". Guess this means, he won't mind grabbing a shovel and doing his part in cleaning-up Hanford. Having been around a half century or more, Hanford features a concoction of these "natural" 'goodies'. Grab your shovel Kai! Brew's look'n about as "natural" as "natural" is gonna get…


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    • digitalaardvarks

      we want to trust someone who doesn't lie to us


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      • nedlifromvermont

        That is it, digitalaarvarks! We want to trust somebody who actually tells us the truth … a truth-teller, like those here in the community of enenewsers. Think of it. A world where the truth is actually spoken.

        A world where we are free to share good ideas about steps which might be taken.

        A world where we heap scorn and ridicule on the attempts of the 'way too greedy' to lie to us and distract us from the horrible truth of what they have done; of what they have been allowed to do; towards what ends? Was it to end the war and save millions of young men's lives? No, of course not.

        General Electric Company, the David Koch of its day, in the forties and fifties, pursued the development of the uranium fuels business in Totally Selfish Disregard for the future for life on Earth.

        Far from bringing "good things to life," General Electric Company, through its dogged pursuit of the uranium fuels business, and this company's rigid insistence upon a substandard, inexpensive, and prone-to-catastrophic-failure-in-any-loss-of-coolant-scenario reactor design has doomed the Pacific, Japan and adjacent points and in between.

        "I'm radioactive … radioactive" is indeed the lament of the "new world." No full body counts for those good looking a capella singers who belt out the truth, unknowingly. They really do not want to know how radioactive they truly are.

        But the government must measure and tell.

        Don't measure, don't tell is getting old!


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        • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

          The truth is always there. Sometimes you just have to look for it. Read between the lines. Follow the converging lines. Smell the air. Listen to the wind. There are always signs. I'm in agreement with Mark Twain, “Never tell the truth to people who are not worthy of it.” You want to be told the truth, you have to fight for it.


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          • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

            I'd like to add, you have to instill a hunger for truth in your children. They must learn that man does NOT live by bread alone. Them must know this, believe this, and never discount this in any way. We suffer not because someone lies, but because when the truth is known, we don't recognize it, we discount it and doubt it. We suffer because we lie to ourselves.


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    • Arizonan Arizonan

      We cannot trust anyone like Mr Vetter, who not only is financially dependent on the criminal nuclear cabal, but who sounds willing to accept manmade fission products as part of natural background. This is serious deceipt. I want every one of those criminals who exploded above ground nuclear bombs to be called to account for every cancer every illness every single particle of cs134 & 137 have ever caused to any land or sea dwelling being.


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    • deaddolphins simonhhh

      "…Cesium 137 IS a man made isotope, and it is NOT part of normal background radiation…"

      "If you don't trust us, who do you want to trust?" (Kai Vetter)

      What a evil, lying, self serving little smug bastard!!!


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?317500-1%2FFukushi

    C-SPAN | Fukushima Task Force Recommendations
    Barbara boxer and the NRC
    This is new dated January 30


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "If you don't trust us, who do you want to trust?" (Kai Vetter)

    What?..a little take it or leave?
    Sod off..Vetter.


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    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Vetter lies on the straight up..to the point his own colleagues had to take him to task.

      WRONG again! This time it's Dr. Kai Vetter
      6/20/2011

      http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4715


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      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        A Homeland Security hooligan…

        BeaRING Group

        http://bearing.berkeley.edu/?q=node/360

        Research Interests
        Applied nuclear physics, fundamental physics, radiation detection and measurements for applications ranging from basic sciences to biomedical imaging and homeland security.


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      • Ontological Ontological

        Thanks Rose, great job, keep up the exposure you do to keep these shills in line!


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      • Another brainwashed arrogant Berkeley expert spewing the same repeated misinformation.

        AGAIN, it's page 1 from the Nuclear Playbook Manual.

        The song, the dance and the RHETORIC has not and will not change!

        In the article they talk about the guy on the beach with a Geiger counter and they CLAIM the sand sample was a natural source. However, what they didn't say is that same guy had been testing the beach for quite some time and had not seen those levels.
        (Note: even a so called natural source can be hazardous)

        Here he is saying the same EXACT thing in the weeks following 311.

        Note the photo below his face.
        I've never seen this FIRE photo before.
        It's dated April 2011.
        http://solarimg.org/?p=1161

        "If you don’t want to trust us, who is it you want to trust?”
        - Kai Vetter, nuclear physics UC Berkeley

        "Anybody but YOU!!!" ;)
        – ChasAha


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        • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

          Trust yourselves. Don't ask these people for their opinions. Ask them for help so that you may learn to ask the right questions. They like to make fun of you because of your ignorance! Give them nothing to make fun of, by learning, from them. If they refuse, then they identify themselves as hypocrites. Seek help from each other. Those that care will come to your aid. Those that don't, won't. But always, learn what you can and periodically come to a collective point to regurgitate what you know. Then step back and look at the big picture. Alpha male reporters are gone. The crap that passes for truth from these bobbleheads would never get by the likes of Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein. We're on our own, but that's OK. There is no stupid questions. Demand answers and never let anyone go without answering you. Challenge each other on their assumptions and assertions. Force each other to dig deeper. Treat this like boot camp. This is war and should be looked at as such.


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        • James Tekton James Tekton

          "The song, the dance and the RHETORIC has not and will not change!"

          Hey, Chas.

          Kinda funny how we were getting lots of reports that LOOKED OK in the beginning months of this horrendous ELE and now, there are none. How can anyone trust the information that is no longer even there to trust?

          When the plutonium plus plume came over this country just after the March Nuklear explosion, it hit hard and it hit many unsuspecting never warned people all across the country. This would explain the sudden deaths and now, more and more reports of sicknesses. If you were unfortunate enough to be outside during that two week period of the aftermath fallout, well, prayers for you and yours.

          The good news is, the head puppet and his people knew about it and did nothing to protect the nation, or the people. They just hopped on a jet and rapidly flew to Brazil to wait the plume out until it passed over DC and out to Europe. They said, and still will say nothing to the American People about this chicken shirt, and his covering up this evil.

          Until the so called "experts" start talking in plain terms and expressing plain truth like most of the good reporters here are, what will come from these scallywag trash bags is just going be more horsesnot and piss mixed in with some stupid is as stupid does fluoride juice. Nothing will ever come from these so called experts who will never actually say, ALL RADIATION IS BAD FOR YOU, and there is NO SUCH THING AS NATURAL MAN MADE RADIATION…


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    • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

      Interesting comment from your link, from a Ms. X, who seems very knowledgeable.

      "We appreciate you spending the time; we also appreciate that you finally stated your bias. Your major concern seems to be that we don't suppress the data that others would hide. If this report had been done by the hacks at UCB it would have been reported as all 'no detects', except for a small detection of Cs-137 in 2011. That detection would have been explained in terms of Bananas. Afterall, people eat a lot less Bananas than beef."

      "UCB would never tell people that as a staple the Cs-137 detect in the beef is within a order of magnitude of exceeding EPA limits. Nor would they caution people that other cuts of meat might have even higher levels. BTW where is UCB on testing all those California staples that are showing contaminated in Japan; heck 10 bq/kg in California Pistachios and no UCB in sight. What would happen to UCB's funding if they started looking at major cash crops? UCB would get the Medfly treatment!" :-)


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      • Ontological Ontological

        So much for Buffalo, Bison, Angus, never ate much red meat anyways. Skye, your exuberance is most welcome in this situation. I wish I had my old spunk back. Not doing very well, wife is now under the heart attack gun, cesium no doubt. Were planning a bucket list cruise, and to visit our children, grandkids this Fall. After we will just curl up and die, were both sick of living in this farce we call used to call America.


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        • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

          Onto….I am so sorry you are both going through so many health issues. I have to remind myself daily that all we have is this moment, and the future is non-existent…that is the only thing that keeps me sane. Take care…
          Peace


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        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          do take care of you good lady, Ontological. But under no circumstances are you to curl-up in the corner. You've got a lot of powder, which needs distribution out here. Besides, if what you suspect her condition is attributable to nuclear power, you have an obligation to dedicate yourself to this war…


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          • Ontological Ontological

            Well after skull cancer came on sudden, I have been fighting the war 3 years this May, I survived the robo surgery at stage 4 one year ago. They told me it was a very aggressive carcinoma, in my nasal. Fuel flea perhaps. I was walking one windy day in May 2011. So awakened to more of the same nightmare, now were both having issues. Been too hot here, but were unable to move. So yep here I am lol. I try to make a good point now and then.
            My oxygen concentrator was denied me last week, so forgive me if I have over ranted. Seems we only get 3 years of Medicare oxygen folks, the rest of your life is on you. Rx needed for oxygen, I saw this coming, trash the air so bad at higher altitudes, we cant breath without help. Then take it away after 36 months, and make us pay. Sigh.


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      "Throwback"

      Howdy, Mack.

      How funny. We were just about to do a rad check on some ground beef we picked up yesterday. Stay tuned for this report on the Rad reporting thread later tonight.

      .


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  • Machomaker Machomaker

    Metabolism of Radioactive Cesium (134Cs and l37Cs)
    and Potassium by Dairy Cattle as Influenced
    by High and Low Forage Diets
    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/94/3/282.full.pdf


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  • Nick

    (EPA 2002)
    "Large amounts of cesium-137 were produced during
    atmospheric nuclear weapons tests conducted in the
    1950s and 1960s.
    As a result of atmospheric testing and
    radioactive fallout, this cesium was dispersed and
    deposited world wide."
    http://www.epa.gov/superfund/health/contaminants/radiation/pdfs/cesium.pdf

    More from Vetter: “I mean we are living in a world which is radioactive [...] We still see Cesium-137 back from the atmospheric tests in the 40s & 50s. We still see that. It’s, in a way, part of our natural background now."
    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/01/31/

    How did Vetter forget the 1960s?

    Not one atom of cesium-137 is safe.

    To think otherwise is to believe in fantasy. But then again, we do live in a fantasy world, one in which a fantastic amount of cesium-137 and other fission related products are being spewed 24/7 into our precious biosphere.


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/01/world/asia/japans-public-broadcaster-faces-accusations-of-shift-to-the-right.html

    Japan’s Public Broadcaster Faces Accusations of Shift to the Right – NYTimes.com

    This is an editorial from the New York Times
    This is new


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  • Machomaker Machomaker

    Iodine129 in Thyroid Glands: A Sensitive Biological Marker of Fission Product Exposure

    L. Van Middlesworth, J. Handl, P. Johns

    appeared in the Journal of Radioanalytical and Nuclear Chemistry, Vol. 243, No. 2 (2000) 467–472.During the electronic submission of the paper the file was damaged, and parts were left out. In order to correct this, we publish the correct paper as a whole.Iodine-129 may be no radiation hazard but it is a useful marker. Animal thyroids concentrate the isotope to 4 orders of magnitude greater than the intake. This results in a potential biological and physical indicator of radioactive contamination. Since 1943, 129I/127I ratio in animal thyroids from the Northern Hemisphere has increased 2 to 5 orders of magnitude. Since 1985, thyroids of deer, living near a nuclear reprocessing facility have contained 129I which is 3 to 7 orders of magnitude greater than pre-nuclear levels. Limited measurements of 129I in thyroids from the Southern Hemisphere have shown little increase. An appendix is presented to show that 129I may be helpful to evaluate past radiation hazard from fission products.
    http://academic.research.microsoft.com/Publication/48304605


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    http://enformable.com/2014/01/nhk-falls-prey-streisand-effect/

    NHKfalls prey to Streisand Effect | Enformable

    Here's another new editorial
    New York Times


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Nice report, Clam.

      "If NHK does not want to lose credibility with its viewers both at home and abroad internationally, it should remember that the main job of the press is to educate the public, not to play a part of information management in order to produce a desired outcome at the expense of truth."

      Strange as it is, nhk has already lost the credibility of the world and japan. When there is any link shared here or anywhere that points to nhk, or any other lame stream media outlet, the first reaction is to ignore it and go on to something else. It is not even worth clicking on and watching ANYTHING from the govt mouthpiece nhk. It is the same criminal mafia that the USA has. It's ALL Information Management and Propaganda.

      Granted, there is some good reporting out there, but not as much as there should be. Enenews is the place to be for the latest leading edge info involving Energy related things, and more narrowly, radiation energy related issues with an emphasis on the fuckushima Extinction Level Event.

      .


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201205120047

    TEPCO to name NHK chairman as director – AJW by The Asahi Shimbun
    Interesting ….


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Well.. they know this one in Japan.
    "Keep your friends close..your enemies closer.
    Blur those lines..

    It's just so obvious..
    Pathetic..


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  • weeman

    Had to laugh at the high tech lead lined box behind mr vetter, the DOA I see spares no expense, I can just imagine the other antiquated equipment that he is using, probably left over equipment from 50s and 60s.
    Fool on the take, by the way who calibrates equipment, do you or another department?


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  • jump-ball

    Vetter is not telling you a high ratio Cs134/137 is the Fuku fingerprint, and what look for, not decades old 137 BG.


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    http://www.wakingtimes.com/2014/01/31/simple-solutions-fukushima-keshe-foundation/

    Simple Solutions for Fukushima from the Keshe Foundation – Waking Times
    Hmmm what do you geeky types think of this one ?


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Seems like some amazing possibilities there! We can make clean soil, we can extract water, oxygen, whatever we need. But will the government allow the free and the brave to create a living environment.

      Apparently, also, people could extract radioactive material from the air to decontaminate. Some might use the technology to get dirty bomb material straight from the air. IF the government doesn't want terrorists to get dirty bomb materials, they had better do their job of regulating and controlling the emissions of radioactive materials released from nuke plants. —don't be an environment destroyer with your nuke crap, or enable terrorists? Your choice NRC, IAEA, etc.


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      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Watching the video, you take rusty nails and other materials and treat it so that it absorbs radioactive metals. Sounds like perfect dirty bomb material to me. This world just gets stupider and more dangerous every day. I would bet TPTB would rather ban such a promising technology than actually regulate their radioactive pals


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        • jump-ball

          Understanding metal as a 'solid plasma' suggests Keshe is correct, and seeing metal street gutters and other metal materials 'holding' high rad levels on GC videos, and knowing of the Tomadachi army helicopter radiator giving off 60,000! CPMs to decontamination crews wearing only gloves, and understanding that superconductors can 'absorb' and hold unlimited amounts of current, all suggest to me that Keshe's corrosive and electrical pre-treatment of already-receptive metals so as to isolate and then magnetically condense rad contamination from surrounding water, is, AN IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS COME…


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  • isogoodhumans

    I wouldnt eat any sushi, check out the radiation numbers from Japan. If you have eaten sushi, you need to figure out a cleanse
    http://www.vitapect.org/blogs/news/11877789-fukushima-radiation-where-does-the-fear-come-from


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  • lam335 lam335

    re: "Sixty hours after the major releases from the Daiichi Nuclear Plant, scientists were able to measure radioactivity which they could directly associate with the releases in Fukushima here in Bay Area rainwater."

    Sixty hours is about two and a half days …

    … But back when it happened, the "authorities" and "experts" told the public that the airborne plume would not reach the U.S. west coast until approx. SEVEN days. Fuku started melting down on 3/11, and they said it would arrive on the west coast on the following Friday, 3/18 (I remember this because it was the day after St. Patrick's Day; I recall watching neighbors prepare for a party on the 17th and wondering how they could celebrate as if nothing was wrong).


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Yeah, I ordered supplements from the internet, instead of going to the local health food store because it was a week away. Here in the midwest, not so bad as being on the west coast. That little bit of info might have kept more than a few people from getting cancer in the future. I guess the media couldn't figure out how to make money from us by releasing the info, so just said fuggem


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      "Sixty hours is about two and a half days…"

      Hello, Lam.

      How many folks remember those cool colorful plume maps they were showing the world about how bad this is until that was all stopped by these horrid things that continue to cover up this evil?

      We were able to SEE and track a spot on the plume until it hit the west coast, mid-west, and east coast. We noted as a basic standard that was variable because of the jet stream, that it took from 3 to 4 days for that March 14th plume to hit the west coast. It took about 5-6 days to hit the mid-west, 7-8 days to hit the mid-east, and about 9-12 to hit the east coast.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff3vMhPtbdA

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRMwA7LjKZc

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbYxpcACiUw

      If one uses a jet stream map available today, try tracking a spot on the jet stream to see how long it takes to reach the vicinity of YOUR area to know about how long it takes for the radioactive fallout to hit your region. Everybody knows the radiation is in the jet stream.

      Be aware, this is a variable and just a gauge to get an idea about how long it takes for a spot on the jet steam to hit your region. Mankind may never really know WHAT, or HOW much dangerous different kinds of radiation is in the jet stream.

      The ones who are still making those really cool colorful plume dispersion maps will not let information out to the public anymore. THAT IS CRIMINAL!~

      http://stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt


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  • Nick

    http://rt.com/news/sellafield-radioactivity-uk-nuclear-460/

    You could say that maybe Fukushima is the cause?

    Nuclear is going to have a very bad day, all over the planet, because 2/1/14 must go down in history as THE DAY the planet woke up to Fukushima's horror and set itself on a nuclear free future….


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    • humptydumpty humptydumpty

      Nuclear free future? …more like a sickness-new-normal future. I seem to recall a "war to end all wars" but now we have one to perpetuate them. Humans do not learn from their mistakes and the aggressive ones never back down from their onslaught against others.


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  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    http://www.nuclearfreeplanet.org/news/2013/09/25/national-academy-of-sciences-(nas)-will-perform-pilot-study-of-cancer-risks-in-populations-near-seven-us-nuclear-facilities.html

    National Academy of Sciences (NAS) will perform pilot study of cancer risks in populations near seven US nuclear facilities
    Any follow up on this?
    Or will it take 10 years just to do another study


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  • humptydumpty humptydumpty

    Vetter must be careful NOT TO FIND anything untoward about the Fuku, most gigantic multiple nuclear meltdown and continuing release of dangerous rads.

    "Vetter admits he receives much of his funding from the Department of Energy, but he insists he has no reason to misrepresent his findings." He dismisses concern about huge amounts of Cs137 pollution by citing accumulation in the environment from past nuke testing as being "part of our background now".

    It's like being in Hiroshima, a new war has broken out and we're being nuked again, but that's OK because we were bombed before so it's part of our background. Some logic!


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      My how the times are a changin.

      No more fat people jokes. No more cigarette smoking bashing. Just about everything people have found unpleasant is about to look pretty good!

      Future news: Mothers against drunk driving hosted a party tonight for all the drivers who have killed other drivers, and innocent bystanders. Beer, wine, tequila, rum, vodka, and gin were served to the relatively socially acceptable misfits. M.A.D.D. and the D.D.O.A. got together to smoke some weed, dance, and deride the nuclear industry. The millions killed during the recent C.M.E. solar wave and subsequent meltdowns of half the planet's nuclear power plants caused a wave of forgiveness for normal, depraved people. Toasts were raised because half of the N.P.P.s are in hot shutdown and everyone is going to die by Monday. In other news ….


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "[...] If you don’t want to trust us, who is it you want to trust?”

    That's a loaded question that implies a psychological problem in those that doubt what he is saying.

    "If you don't trust us, who is it you trust?" would be the fair question.

    I trust those who are trustworthy. The DOE has been untrustworthy for years. Remember Dick Cheney, Ken Lay, Enron, and the secret DOE meeting with all the energy giants, but not the public? I bet the meeting went something like this: "To hell with morality, who wants to make some MONEY? Either you are for us or against us. We'll kill you if you don't go along. So SHUT UP and get rich. The little guys will take the fall." Who ya gonna trust? Lie Busters!


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    • pure water

      I had a clue whom not to believe from the scientific world – "the banana tribe". They were serving bananas all over the world for nearly 3 years.The supposed monkeys are searching for caves now!


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    • humptydumpty humptydumpty

      Right on the money, unincredulous! It's not that I don't WANT to trust nuclear scientists, but that their track record shows they are allied with the criminals and are therefore untrustworthy. LIE BUSTERS — terrific name for the new anti-nuke movement.


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  • humptydumpty humptydumpty

    The photo of this guy is perfect. The flat spot on his forehead is where I just smacked him with my hand.


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  • or-well

    If there's rumors of rads
    in your neighborhood -
    who ya gonna call?
    Radbusters!
    If the geiger clicks wavin' over your food
    if a blogger thinks they're doin' some good
    if the ugly truth starts to intrude -
    who ya gonna call?
    Radbusters!
    We aint afraid of no spin!
    Radbusters!
    Someone got a scar right under their chin?
    Someone got a kid born without limbs?
    Someone rectally bleeding and getting thin?
    then you'd better call –
    Radbusters!
    There's no provable links or disease clusters
    there's only rumors by terror hustlers!
    We've got a worldwide staff we can muster
    to show there's never been nuke disasters
    That's why you gotta call
    Radbusters!
    Contact UC Berkely ask for Kai Vetter!


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  • razzz razzz

    It's the media. Station sends a man in the street reporter when they should be sending a reporter with some basic science education. They should also be giving an opposing view, the concerned citizens' comments showed more common sense than anything else. But of course the entire point of the reporting is to downplay the situation for the nuclear industry.

    The reporting doesn't even mention or correlate rising cancer rates with rising background radiation levels. Or asked the funding dependent scientist what parts of background radiation is natural and how much is man made. Maybe the reporter did but the station chief edited it out, turning reporting into propaganda. The scientist did get a little defensive for some reason.

    Fukushima, Daiichi at the local people level is ignored, I guess they don't exist or not as important.

    The report could have taken the same amount of time to show EPA graphs of fallout after 3/11 with the spikes in different radionuclides in drinking water, milk, air samples, etc., and then the recent raising of background radiation levels to account for it. Medical reports of any birth defects or increase of rare medical conditions following the fallout plume is of more interest. alarming or not.

    A look at the Periodic Chart and anything above 92 are man made and re-introduced elements, all of those are radioactive from man fracturing the atom, mainly Uranium.


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  • ftlt

    This is all the result of the globalists shift into active power. It solidified as Thatcher and Reagan took state power, leading West into globalism.

    Every President and PM since has followed suit and towed the line. The leadership of most other First World so called democracies have followed suit or at least towed the line.

    As a result, the truth has been buried along with the nation state.

    All national issues and the truthful coverage of them have been marginalized with a game of 3 card monte played on a planetary scale or hidden and not allowed to be heard/seen/discussed at all.

    The streets and common sense are all we have left to us – as all the mediums of mass dissemination of information are controlled and tainted by Globalist propaganda or pushed off into isolated ineffectual corners like this EneNews website.

    We now need to take FUFU and issues like it to the streets.

    FUFU and our other needs and protections will never be addressed unless we force them to be by direct physical action.


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  • Tedd Tedd

    How did our species ever get out of the trees?

    Personally I'm going back to the trees. I will
    be KING of the trees. You here are welcome.

    But the first politician that comes near my forest, I will beat him to death with my favorite femur bone.


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  • jackassrig

    As Gorbachev wrote in 2006: The nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl 20 years ago this month, even more than my launch of perestroika, was perhaps the real cause of the collapse of the Soviet Union five years later. Indeed, the Chernobyl catastrophe was an historic turning point: there was the era before the disaster, and there is the very different era that has followed. That's what will happen in the US. Once the populace looses faith in the government, it is all over. People obey the law voluntarily or they will not obey it at all. The US government is finished. We now wait for the next chapter to be written. Will the States grow gonads and form a new Union or will there be revolution. The old ruling elite is finished. The oligarchy that has caused so much death and destruction is finished. The incompetence and corruption must go.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      agreed jackassrig. I might add, the same trash that got us here, will be using this same discontent to 'reshape' the new order. It's an old game. I've even noticed a marked increase in 'alternative' pundits who're calling for a violent overthrow of the government. It's obvious we're being played. That's one reason the government's no longer feigning any concern for the welfare of the people. They want the system trashed, so as to facilitate their final 'solution'. And if any doubt this, ask why they've distribute such vast amounts of munitions to themselves and militarized most-very sector of our public services; most notably, our 'peace' officers…


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Relocating to Southern Hemisphere is the only solution.


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  • pinksailmatt pinksailmatt

    I guess the NuScale folks in town here are building their "scaleable" reactors to power the underground rat holes of the elite. Who else would buy them? I saw the Uranium futures charts going UP recently…


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    CBS..working on information control.

    "CBS San Francisco: “Widespread distrust” of scientists over Fukushima — Official: “People are worried, people want to know what’s going on”

    Then they stick us with Vetter

    Why?

    CBS Does CIA PR
    10/29/2013

    http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/10/29/cbs-does-cia-pr/

    PS.. The situation reeks…


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  • Berkeley are pimps.

    While in Hawaii I spoke to a NOAA higher up. He brushed off the shark attacks in Hawaii as a statistical "blip".

    I mentioned how the 2012 and 2013 "statistics" were both 3 sigma events. 2 sigma means there is a 98% chance that it is a real change and not just a "blip", 2 in a row 2 sigmas, mean hell ya, something going on for sure. 2 (3) sigma means….why don't you go in the water as you promote "nothing changed"

    He shut up.

    I spoke to a senior UH Honolulu Fish researcher, PHD guy. He was extremely concerned about the ocean and the fishes, and his children. I said, dude, you are only 57, you ought to be really concerned for yourself to…and gave him 15 minutes of point blank education. I think he absorbed it all. Seriously, I know A LOT more than he did about radiation and dispersion. But he "got it" after the explanation.

    UH Honolulu has an awesome biology program, they lead the world in many issues. Made this conversation was a tipping point?

    Well, we can hope.


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  • Eff the new world order, these multinational corporations ARE the illuminati, are that criminals that be. eff them wherever you can.


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  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    Most scientists are compromised. The scientific community has taken on a form similar to the Medieval Church. Contradict the hierarchy and no more jobs. Truth is secondary to money and status. As for whom can we trust, I would appeal to intuition. Some people have it more than others. Women for example often get intuitions and have the males in their lives sneer.

    Certainly scientists have been wrong often enough. Now Hawkings is denying black holes. What next? No big bang either? The big bang was invented by a Catholic priest who was also an astrophysicist back in the 1920's. The name big bang was meant as ridicule by Fred Hoyle? It is your life that you lose not some scientist's who works for the gov. Take care.


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  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    A good question for the physicist would be, what information do you have? If you believed you had made a discovery in physics would you need the same or more information and data to prove it to other scientists?
    Another would be, are you saying that Cesium 137 is now a desirable part of the world? By claiming it is almost natural what are you hoping to achieve? Would you yourself be willing to spend some time at Fukushima checking things out if your expenses were paid? Would you take your wife and children if you have such?
    Would you ask fellow scientists to just trust you that your discovery is solid and need not be verified by them?
    Should we view you the way people once viewed priests and take what you say on trust? Would that make you happy? Why don't you put down on paper what you think is the case and let us review it and see if we agree. We are not all ignorant peasants. I took a year long calculus course in physics at Stanford-you know the place south of San Francisco!!


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  • M Curie M Curie

    Capt, you are so on target! Schooled at Notre Dame, but sent to the principal's office for being a "free thinker." Never wanted kids – intuitive? Yes. Didn't know I had been given X-rays until I had papillary cancer diagnosed at 21 yrs while pregnant at the old Donner lab UCB, where they built the original "Rube Goldberg" radioative iodine scanner.
    Two autistic children, one severe, and an autistic grandson; all initially misdiagnosed. If only I had followed my intuition!


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    • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

      There are two very interesting films about autism. One is a documentary of a couple who took their son to Mongolia; and he was cured. Sorry I can not recall the name.
      The other is an interesting TV series called Touch on Netflix. I do not know how real this presentation is. But I have enjoyed most of it.
      I did not know that x-rays could produce the result you mentioned.


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    • Sparky Sparky

      @MCurie, I understand, having first-hand experience with the misdiagnosis and never ending heartache and hardship of having a "high-functioning" autistic child, now young adult whose future is still very uncertain. My heart goes out to you as it sounds as though your situation has been so much more difficult than mine.
      This is truly the "gift" that keeps on giving.

      Developing a keen intuition for personal and family health and well-being is important as the medical, mental health and educational professionals and systems set-up to help, often don't. In fact, they can make things much, much worse.

      These systems are built/bent on failure. Go easy on yourself. You didn’t fail: they did, and they are still failing. You made the best decisions you could given the information and resources available to you at the time. I’m sure you’ve since become a strong advocate for your children and grandchild, and helped other parents along the way.

      [Continued below]


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      • Sparky Sparky

        @MCurie, [Continued], I fear the pending wave of chronic health problems, birth defects and “excess” fatalities caused by radiation contamination from Fuku and other NPP/waste sites. Radiation is/will be the next “environmental trigger myth” that authorities and scientists will try to debunk. As with autism, these same “experts” seek to deny or distort the evidence, and discredit and blame conscientious objectors—especially parents.

        We learn to expect so little from these broken systems, yet we expect so much from ourselves. In the end, we can only do our best, befriending other conscientious people that help propel us forward when we are lost, stuck or simply too exhausted to take the next step to help ourselves and those who depend upon us.

        Enenewsers are just such conscientious and appropriately contentious people: TRUTHTELLERS against pro-nuke systems, industries, and institutions built on lies and greed. TRUTH propels us forward.


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  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    Future labels on food: contains x amount of almost natural Cesium 137 whose health effects are still being studied at UC Berkeley!


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  • M Curie M Curie

    Forgot to mention, in the 1940s, this was an experimental treatment to the thymus gland on premature babies. The only way I've survived 72 years is by following my gut instincts regarding nutrition and thyroid replacement hormones. Beware of most endocrinologists PCPs, they haven't a clue on how to treat radiation problems in their patients.


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  • M Curie M Curie

    Autism Spectrum encompases a multitude of disorders including, but not limited to, Asperger syndrome, bipolar disorder, savants. All from genetic mutations due to radiation. Ish! I sound like a disclaimer for a new drug! There is no cure, but depending on the severity, some can become functioning at a subnormal level. When mentioning the mental deteriation I have seen in people lately, my endo nodded in agreement.


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    • Daisy207

      Quote"Autism Spectrum encompases a multitude of disorders including, but not limited to, Asperger syndrome, bipolar disorder, savants. All from genetic mutations due to radiation."

      And they know what the genetic cause is – look up Chromosome 22 Deletion. And they know its increase is due to radiation exposure. Lets see the increase in these problems developed when – not that they were not around earlier just not in the levels seen today – but lets try to put this in perspective. Most severe mental illnesses for example like bipolar, sczhophrenia develop in early teens mid twenties. Nuclear testing was done in the 50's and 60's so people born in the late 50's to 60's and were exposed will be having children in the 70's to 80's and 90's. These children will be reaching adult years in the 90's to 2000's. Duhhh. The autism shows up earlier and so does the ADHD – why the increase in this population – you fill in the blank. The US birth rate is already down 10% – and probably those live births – will be transmitting even more genetic defects if in fact they can breed – because of Fukushima and other nuclear releases that we are not told about.


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  • FXofTruth

    Here's how the Vetter's comments rate:

    100% of all average idiots believes him and believe in fairies.
    100% of the lost, confused and indifferent believes him.
    100% of the drunks, drug addicts, and huffers believe him.
    100% of everyone that can stand watching FOX News believes him.
    100% of everyone that thinks TEPCO has been "telling the truth" believes him.
    100% of the sports fanatics believe him, GO TEAM!
    100% of non-glowing nuclear executives believe him.
    100% of the Government believes him ….can't get votes NOT believing him.
    If all the above didn't agree with him they would be raising Holy Hell about his lies but, since this is the majority at large, pretty much he doesn't have to worry about being called on his fictitious statements!

    But there is ONE group that doesn't believe him in the least…
    100% of that small minority of "intelligent" people, KNOWS he's a fool and his credentials are worthless as he is.


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  • isogoodhumans

    If Cesium 137 is natural background then why, when a pelvic xray is done, do they even bother with the lead shield?

    He's basically saying we're all about to be naturally sterile.


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  • StevenStarr

    Fission products like cesium-137 and strontium-90 are entirely man-made, they do not exist "naturally" in the biosphere. They did not exist during the entire evolution of complex life forms; they pose new and significant dangers to living things because they are long-lived radionuclides, which are capable of entering the food chains.

    These fission products bioaccumulate and biomagnify as they move up the food chains, and they are tens of millions of times more radioactive per unit mass than are such truly naturally occurring long-lived radionuclides such as potassium-40. People living in areas seriously contaminated with cesium-137, such as in Belarus and Ukraine, are routinely exposed to them through the ingestion of contaminated foodstuffs. Infants and children are most susceptible to the effects; less than 20% of the children living in these contaminated regions are now considered to be healthy (as opposed to 90% healthy prior to the Chernobyl disaster).

    I suppose the intent was to just describe Cs-137 as now being widespread from nuclear testing, and thus acts to increase the levels of truly naturally occurring radiation. However, it is misleading to lump these together, especially because the evidence (for exmaple, of large populations of sick children) indicates they produce a markedly different consequence to those routinely exposed to them, than do the truly naturally occurring long-lived radionuclides found in the Earth's crust.


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  • AirSepTech AirSepTech

    We are front row witnessing nuke power.

    A smoldering pile of invisible death-dart spewing rubble.

    A repeat performance from the "we can control it clan".

    They had the trust, far to long. No more.

    Time to take it away.


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  • McJillin McJillin

    Hi wonderful enenewsers; just read all of your comments. So much good info. It rained this morning in CA. We need the rain, but it's frightening, too. I try not to go outside, but need to sometimes. I'm so afraid, but reading your comments really helps my sanity. You "write" what I've been thinking, since the disaster. It's comforting to know I'm not alone in my concern. I'm a fairly new poster, but have been reading for a little over two months. Also, those of you who welcomed me to this site recently, when I first posted, THANK YOU for that. This site is really helping me cope.


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  • WWJD WWJD

    Of course we don't/shouldn't trust government funded Berkeley. I don't even trust the EPA RadNet stations, this is why I own my own geiger counter GMC-200 $85 running with a Raspberry Pi mini computer and using NETC.com along with the geiger counter on the intake side of an air purifier to get better detection rates…

    …like air samplers used by nuclear plants – mentioned here:

    https://www.netc.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=782


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  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Diablo Canyon reactor problems on superbowl sunday

    Unit 2 at Diablo Canyon Power Plant shut down Sunday following an electrical disturbance in equipment that helps transmit power to the state's electric grid. Unit 1 continued to operate during the shutdown, said a spokeswoman for Pacific Gas and Electric Co., which owns and operates the nuclear power plant a few miles north of Avila Beach. A preliminary investigation indicated the disturbance was caused by a "flashover," or electrical arc, on a lightning arrestor located on the non-nuclear side of the plant. The system automatically tripped the reactor to protect equipment. Unit 2 won't return to service until the cause is fully understood and the equipment tested, the spokeswoman said. She added that PG and E informed the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and appropriate local and state officials of the incident.


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    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      time machine…the scariest thing I read on a daily basis is the NRC's event reports….my favorites are the "lost radioactive device" reports. There is a gathering at Diablo Canyon on 2/14 if you are interested.


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      • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

        Hi newsblackoutUSA. I was thinking the same thing for quite sometime now. By my calculations, there are thousands of LOST RADIOACTIVE DEVICES reports on the NRC site over the last few yrs. They all seem to have the tag of "less that a cat level 3 radioactive threat to the public". Gather enough of these lost, stolen and misplaced devices and package them up into a bunch of dirty bombs and you have a recipe for shtf. Possibilities are endless for terrorists and cookoo for cookoo puffers. I say the we are in need of PUBLIC radiation detection stations, especially in high population areas ASAP. Like they have in Japan, but we would need trustworthy readouts. Ya, I know. Never gonna happen…


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  • skizexq skizexq

    Kai Vetter LOOKS like an apologist/naysayer.

    Hey, what happened to a lot of the NETC stations? looking pretty sparse at the moment! http://www.netc.com/


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