Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California

Published: May 16th, 2011 at 11:29 am ET
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Food Chain Sampling, UC Berkeley, May 14, 2011:

Kale on 4/28 had the first detectable amounts of Cs-134 and Cs-137 since a sample on 4/7. Strawberries continue to show levels of Cs-134 and Cs-137.

Grass: Cs-137 @ 45.4 pCi/kg
Strawberries: Cs-137 @ 11.9 pCi/kg
Kale: Cs-137 @ 14.1 pCi/kg

Published: May 16th, 2011 at 11:29 am ET
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186 comments to Cesium-137 rising in samples of strawberries, kale, and grass from Northern California

  • kx

    arg. california is out of my places to work list, sorry facebook


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    • Michael

      It is worth noting that almost all the levels peaked in early April and have been falling ever since. The worst part of the cloud likely came from the prompt criticality that occurred March 14 and probably vaporized much of the fuel in the rods. I mean, that makes sense because the jet stream takes about 2 weeks from Japan to the West coast.

      I’m not saying to not worry but the time to really be careful was early april and that time has passed. unless there are more criticalities this is probably going to remain a local issue for Fukushima.


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      • Franky

        from japan the jet stream takes about three to four days to reach cali


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      • extra knight

        the jet stream from japan to california is usually ~ 36 to 45+ hours, depending on conditions.

        get it straight.

        jet stream animation


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      • Ah, levels of cesium-137 don’t “peak” and then drop off – just making sure you are aware of that fact. Cesium-137 only continues to go UP and it will be with us for 100+ years (before even losing 90% radioactive power). Thus, the time to be careful is in fact from mid-March until at least 5-6 generations from now (in the USA at least)!

        Based on the final levels of cesium-137 from Rhenish before they shut down their forecasts (which data was from actual measurements taken by actual CTBTO test stations globally) we can project the build-up of cesium-137 on the ground in the USA using simple math:

        http://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/lies-from-every-official-mouthpiece/

        Given that massive releases are evidently continuing every day, it really does not make sense to talk about not being careful now!!

        http://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2011/05/14/reactors-in-meltdown-as-private-forecasts-continue/


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        • Michael

          Measurable levels of radiation in land/sea/air really do peak and drop off in a disaster like this. What you’re talking about is the fact that the radioactive decay of the individual radioactive particles can be long lived. That is absolutely true and there is very little to be done about it in most parts of the world. However Fukushima may need to do some topsoil remediation. Maybe. But then again stirring up the ground often just makes these things worse.


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          • Anthony

            I wasn`t aware we had another disaster where we can verify “really do peak and drop off…..“

            Not trying to pick a war – just committed to sticking to the facts from now on!


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          • Deetu 3

            “However Fukushima may need to do some topsoil remediation”
            That’s got to be the understatement of the century. How about “however the island of Honshu may need to do some evacuation”


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          • extra knight

            i agree, excellent comment. total misinformation, never look the truth in the eye.


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          • Michael… I live in Tokyo, thus, have a rather immediate and daily need for current info.. verifiable info… are you a scientist? … do you have some links you could publish, to back up your comments, please… I have no idea what most of what you say is about.. I look at Dr. Caldicott, Arnie Gundersen, wade through NHK (japanese TV website)… have seen nothing about ‘peaking’ etc, other than the obvious and almost spurious facts re. radioactive iodine, which really means little to you there…if you feel the need to publish, please back it up… thanks


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      • Anthony

        Are you sure about your assurances? How can you feel confident without data to back you up? Like everybody I want to live and enjoy this planet, but are you suggesting it is completely safe for us to “drink in the air“ with this plant spewing continuously into the environment?


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      • Michael we had some very high readings in radiation from radnet in later April.

        I’m not confident that the data we’re getting stating that levels have peaked are truly accurate.

        Do you personally have any empirical data that supports your concludions?

        I certainly hope you are correct.

        However, there exists more risks even if you are correct. Gunderson believes reactor #3 may have an explosion. See his latest video.


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      • Arizonan

        Yes that is what I think as well. The biggest fallout so far was prob generated during the explosion at spent fuel pond #3…because after that the levels released to the upper atmosphere would have been reduced….they are continuing, mind you, but that explosion shot a LOT of material upwards at a VERY high velocity, as Tchernobyl did. Now we will just have long-term releases into soils, air, waters until….we do not know when….it depends on when the fission stops….unless there are more explosions, these releases will initially be closer to Japan…but many of these radioactive products are long-lived enough to circulate through the earth’s biosphere via jetstreams and currents for many hundreds of generations….


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    • mothra

      Uh, it’s not just California – it’s just that Berkeley is actually testing our food. We aren’t the highest in the US, not even close.


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      • extra knight

        uhhh that’s good news? well maybe not. where have you been, hope all is well, fine and that you are safe.


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        • mothra

          No, not good news. I’m just advocating testing across the country. We’ve had very little rain here, so our deposits are slight but fluctuating on the few light rains we’ve had. I just don’t want others to derive a false sense of security from a total lack of data in potentially more affected areas, while eschewing less fallout precipitation affected crops just because we have tests. It skews the picture and the overall safety goal. If your local municipality or state hasn’t found it too, I believe that’s a confirmation that they aren’t testing.


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          • Yes, the only reliable way for any of us in the USA to know the levels of radioactivity in any area is simply: testing, testing, testing!! Without this critical service, we are all left to play a potentially deadly game of “Russian roulette” every day from now on – not with a gun, but with any single piece of food from anywhere in the country (and death won’t come instantly like with a gun, but in a few years through horrible radiation-caused cancer)!

            So, testing everywhere that food is grown is essential (as Chernobyl proves) it is simply impossible to know how much fallout occurred in any area and therefore it is impossible to know whether food from any area is in fact safe or not.

            We have been having bizarre snow/ice/rain-fall in NorCal over the past day or so, with more coming today and tomorrow at least. We are certainly going to be getting at least some extra build-up of radioactive poisons on the ground through this current precipitation, again meaning that testing is the only way that any of us here will know whether food grown locally is safe.


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          • Cassie

            The midwest has had non stop rain for weeks now.
            We must be saturated with the toxic soup.


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          • extra knight

            gotcha”. good to see you here.


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          • Anthony

            Totally agree with Mothra and Savvy and think our concerns of the rains & snows & fall-outs is the darkest part of journey so far. Things are really changing…


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          • Thanks Mothra for pointing this out!


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        • mothra

          I had a bad “flu-like” bout. Anecdotally speaking my friends and family up and down the West Coast from CA, OR, WA to Canada either have it too – or say a “really raging” flu-like thing is going around with everyone they know. Mine has lasted 8 days now (no fever).


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          • extra knight

            hope you get better. stay well peace.


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          • too true

            Feel better, Mothra! :( We need you and missed you!! Come out to the East Coast–we’re not as blanketed or inundated, as of yet…. Everyone is hanging in there all over this hemisphere!


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          • Yes, hope you get well soon Mothra! Your comments weeks ago were some that really helped open my eyes as to what is really happening, so thank you.


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          • too true

            Mothra, as you know, you are getting the worst of it, outside of Japan! (cringe) You need to load up on those supplements and anti-oxidants. It sounds like your condition is respiratory, not so much viral. HEPA air filter is mandatory –you also can get a premium carbon air filter installed for your car…
            Keep detoxing and please consider relocation.


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          • preptime2011

            Use a water resistant ink marker and write your Soc. Sec. # on your arm for easy i.d.


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          • What are the symptoms? Are they gastro-intestinal?


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          • Dbug

            California Classifieds:
            Radiation meter for sale, will trade for contaminated California home. (I know of some contaminated children and need a suitable disposal ground) Large yard preferred, children and dog found to have high activity.

            It’s a great deal, get it before midnight tonight so you don’t forget. Millions born in California in the 1800′s have already died, leave before you do too. No need to take anything else with you. Anything else may be contaminated and isn’t worth the risk.

            Ocean view property is especially dangerous. A tsunami may kill you before the radiation does.
            – - – - -
            Decontamination kit, guaranteed to remove what soap and water won’t. Briefly used as belt sander and hole saw.


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    • ZombiePlanet

      HEADS UP

      New forecasts show a very predominate cloud of radiation that seems to blanket most of the United states in the next few days. Looking at the map you can see…

      http://globalrumblings.blogspot.com/2011/05/secret-map-shows-massive-cloud-of.html


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      • little lady

        cloud was a week ago and it is xenon. stay out of the rain and it will not affect you directly.. not saying rain will not affect crops and milk, just that it is high level, so at surface level you will not be inhaling it


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      • kx

        global only shows USA maps… cant europa have a bit of proper panic too pls


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  • too true

    THIS IS DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Farmers need to clue in–take shelter & build enclosures that let in the sun. You CAN grow strawberries in a greenhouse structure.
    I’m starting my own indoor garden, etc.

    As I’ve been saying, FARMERS NEED TO ACTIVATE and ORGANIZE.


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  • too true

    FAST!!!!!!!!! Time is running out to secure food supplies and crops!!!


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  • radegan

    HELLO CALIFORNIA. I won’t be buying ANY food from California until your state starts a huge testing program to ensure the safety of your agricultural products. I passed on California berries and lettuce just today. If you think your current testing is sufficient, then get ready to eat a lot of your own strawberries.


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    • mothra

      Are you nuts? California is testing more than your state already. We aren’t even the most affected in the nation. We do grow 75-90% of the nation’s spinach though… and are a huge agricultural supplier. Florida and Arizona are affected too. NE dairy – you name it, if they haven’t found it that only means they aren’t testing.


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  • Phil

    is that Motel California ?


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  • Franky

    Where is the EPA?????????????


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  • Sam

    I would hope that these comments about the radioactivity in produce
    from Ca. does not sink in a a boycott. How stupid. Lets be real.
    This contamination is going to continue across the Northern Hemisphere
    for some time at low levels (provided that there are not corium
    explosions). We have lost our innocence and our crops across the
    nation are not going to be “clean.” As a small farmer here in Ca.
    I can tell you there is no way to eliminate the fall out from the crops.
    Most crops in the summer will burn in a greenhouse–too hot.
    it is good to keep the rain off but how practical? small backyard scale
    yes. There are ways to help keep some of fall out from going up into the plants and keeping it from absorbing into the soil. The process
    takes time and is not cheap. I have had to learn quickly and become
    my own nuclear ecologist. Best advice right now is not to panic.
    Eat in small quantities the veggies etc… fortify the body with
    foods and supplements that help the body flush the radiation and
    keep the immune system strong.
    When you go to the farmers markets have compassion on the
    people farming. They are the ones out there in the air, with the dust,
    the rainwater trying their best to grow food for you.

    I have invested in charcoal to incorporate in the compost that I
    put around the plants. I supplement this compost with added
    minerals and phosphates. Cesium binds with the phosphate and
    the carbon in the charcoal supposedly binds the radiation so it
    does not travel. There are no scientific studies yet on the effectiveness of it. Sunflowers take out 10% radiation a year.
    We have a problem though—the radiation keeps coming.
    Still I will employ these methods at added cost. Will you the
    consumer pay more for this process?


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    • Cassie

      Most consumers will not be able to pay for clean and safe food.
      Price of gas and food already too high for many.
      And all the people out of work struggling already won’t even be
      able to consider the price of safe food.

      It is just reality.
      And thank you for the work you are doing.
      It is appreciated.


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      • Cindy

        I have a small scale poultry hobby farm where the animals directly drink the rain water …

        They also drink from puddles off the ground, as ducks will.
        No way to test anything.(eggs / meat ,etc..)

        Strontium 89 (SP?) was also found in Hawaii.

        I Agree The explosions in April is what sent the heavier elements here, keeping fingers crossed that no more happen. Cesium is lightweight, and can continue to arrive … ug…

        The last measurement was in March sometime, and 2 picocurries per litre of rainwater Iodine 131 were detected.. no mention of the other isotopes…


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        • Jack

          Cindy,
          Bless you and your work.
          What info source are you relying upon for new info?
          It seems you need to find some underground retired
          mad-scientist type in order to defeat to matrix-control-grid
          censorship manipulation of the situation.
          Who do you know?


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          • extra knight

            cindy the explosions happened in march, it was all straws in the wind from there. ta ta.


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          • Cindy

            I don’t have any new info, unfortunately, but it is known that Cesium is still arriving, and doesn’t decay as thought, half life was supposed to be 30 years, but may be more like 50..

            see chernoble levels not declining as thought …


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      • extra knight

        yes. that’s the truth.


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    • Anna

      Thank you for what you are doing Sam.


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    • Franky

      Yes, I will pay more for safe foods. I think everyone here will pay more for safe foods. I am sorry that this has happened and I want to thank you for doing your best as a good farmer. I do believe that the Government needs to get involved and subsidize the costs of ensuring that our foods are safe. You should not have to pay for this as a farmer. The Government is responsible to ensure that our food is safe. The fact that they are not testing for another three months is mind boggling.


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    • radegan

      Yes, Sam, but you need to have some kind of certification. Like Organic food is certified by various organizations.


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    • too true

      hell yes, we NEED good food. I’m now avoiding CA produce like the plague–which SUCKS! I used to be one of your best, most worshipful customers!!! You need to get innovative and start some new radiation-free certifications & marketing. C’mon!!-Please be California, already!–?
      And you’re absolutely right–doctors will tell you that the great irony is that those green, leafy vegetables, loaded with powerful anti-carcinogenic anti-oxidants, vitamins & minerals, are an essential medicine you need to keep your health in this crisis.

      Can you convert protected and/or pre-harvested crops to frozen or dried food status????!…


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      • too true

        Cilantro is so anti-radioactive, for example, that they can’t detect fallout levels on it in UC-Berkeley tests!…Kale, lettuce, chard, broccoli, etc. are very beneficial and valuable, if protected. I say up the frozen goods, save your seeds for a better, protected crop, and use A/C, humidity clean sprinklers, and fans in your CA greenhouses!! (heat in Ca? Try TX!) You can detox your animals with clays, zeolite, etc., cover them up, and please keep them safe!!!

        The problem with things like Cesium is that they just build-up and stay damaging for a generation. So, any investment$ or innovation now to avoid that long-term will pay off exponentially!!…


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        • too true

          p.s. If frozen for a month, all the I-131, I-132, I-133…ETC. (many lesser radioisotopes) will decay away.

          FARMERS NEED TO HUSTLE HERE!
          Agriculture will be a boom market with predicted commodity inflation…just invest & re-think it now to keep it safe.


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          • radegan

            Freeze your isotopes away? Gee, can’t we use that to clean the Fukushima emissions? How does that work?


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          • too true

            If you know the food only has been exposed to radioiodines, you can keep it frozen and then a month or two later, it should be stable and non-radioactive.
            (the benefit of a relatively short half-life) You still need to keep detoxing the remaining elements out, but at least you won’t take in ionizing radiation.


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          • too true

            I think there are answers–maybe a cooling, sealant foam or some new-age technology that hasn’t been applied yet!…
            However, I think on some level they are intentionally prolonging this disaster response–just as they did with the Gulf disaster! That wasn’t just an accident. And I think they’ll come up with a comparable cosmetic fix…. But, the cataclysmic damage will continue.


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          • Arizonan

            Please, people, be reasonable. Without testing for alpha emitters like plutonium, you cannot and probably will not be able to tell if produce has been ONLY contaminated with radioiodines. This is VERY unlikely. These materials travel together, but most geiger counters are unable to detect alpha emissions. That’s why the old NILO maps and EPA readings usually gave the numbers for the beta producers….not that we have that data anymore, apparently.


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    • extra knight

      I would hope that these comments about the radioactivity in produce
      from Ca. does not sink in a a boycott. How stupid. Lets be real.
      This contamination is going to continue across the Northern Hemisphere

      well of course the contamination is going to continue, TEPCO has finally admitted that it will take at least two years to begin the process of removing the melted fuel rods from the destroyed reactors. one can only wonder it that’s even a reasonable estimate given the sheer tonnage of the fuel that melted down into a radioactive mass of corium. and again completely wrong about the sheeplish, droneish boycott thing sam. let’s hope it does, as if most produce isn’t already contaminated enough, but let’s not feed ourselves and our children highly contaminated radioactive produce and other foodstuffs heavily contaminated with dangerous radionuclides. that is pure insanity my friend.


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    • Dbug

      Thanks for the insightful comments Sam, it’s good to see dedicated people in farming doing what they can to help.

      It is tough to tell how people will react, it’s more about emotions than science for most people. I expect more fear of fish than anything else. In spots Milk has probably come the closest to meaningful doses and that’s a short term thing (mostly from late March rain, but time will tell how bad the steam there now is. At least steam isn’t as bad as the fires/explosions). The measurable amounts other isotopes in California soil although regrettable will still be well below what atomic testing left behind although that may not be as close to the surface. The midwest and much of the other U.S. states have far more leftover from the testing era than California. The winds over Nevada are most always blowing east. I’m not saying any of that is good, but we have been living with the impact of a bit of this for some time and any lower-dose health effects are scattered enough in time and location to become less than obvious, but they are real.

      I remember being shown 20 years ago how sunflower seeds showed a small reading on a counter. It’s interesting how some isotopes get sucked up in place of certain minerals. I guess that’s why us pre-1972 people have some strontium 90 in our teeth.


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      • Dbug

        The highest risk California crop? Marijuana!!

        Leafy, and smoke particles go in the lungs instead of mostly passing through the body.

        Good luck getting the growers to plant sunflowers.

        (sorry to past yet again, but couldn’t leave that one unsaid)


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      • Arizonan

        I think you mean pre-1963, when the treaty was signed that banned atmospheric testing. Those of us born after that date supposedly do not have as much strontium-90 in our teeth. Or are you referring to something else that occurred in 1972?


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    • Anthony

      Seems the reality is we have to eat potentially contaminated and contaminated food from now on. It`s that or starve. Funny that “Organically grown foods“ may change to mean “NOT grown in Nature“ What the hell have we done?


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      • Cassie

        Anthony:
        I have come to the same conclusion.
        We are going to be consuming contaminated food.
        There is not much we can do about it.

        Yes ironic isn’t it? Going back to plastic food made of chemicals is now safer than organic fresh food. I am going to go eat a twinkie and drink a coke.

        What the hell have we done indeed. We have ruined a planet and a species. Damage the DNA, damage our future.


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    • Nancy

      Thanks Sam for your helpful comments – we’re all in this for the long haul….


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  • Dr. Stranglelove

    Is Pot Hot?


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  • Dr. Stranglelove

    Is Pot Not Hot?


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  • Jack

    Probly bout as bad as dat ParaQuat!


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  • Jack

    Franky!
    I’ve already seen a real small farmer post that he’s not taking
    even your Gold and Silver for his self-grown, perfectly safe FOOD.
    That’s where we run into the Shipp hitting the fan.
    Joe DOOD walks up to the Real Working Man, thinking his Frogskins,
    beads and trinkets are fair trade medium for REAL FOOD!
    ….and finds out the Real Working Man is tire of the Bullshit, and needs
    something of Real Value, not Greenback Frogskin Federal Debt Notes.
    Whatta you got for Real Trade Franky?


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    • Franky

      Until the economic collapse happens we still have this monetary system. So until then, I will pay with my green backs just like everyone else is doing.


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  • Sam

    Certification is joke right now. No one is in agreement as to the danger of the radiation levels in the produce. It will be impossible to have certification in this area. No matter what a farmer does the produce is going to have some contamination in it. Can you imagine the costand delay of testing produce right out of the field?
    There are no scientific studies yet on the effectiveness of trying to
    remove contamination via charcoal.

    I am not going to make claims that my produce is “safer.” I will
    tell people what I am doing and they can decide if they want to eat it.
    U.C. Davis experts told me they have no concerns about the levels so
    far in the produce.

    Certification will not make the food safer..
    . Develop a personal relationship with a
    farmer at the markets and ask them what they are doing to
    reduce the contamination in their crops. I have done it in my
    area and the reply I got from an organic farmer was that he uses
    a lot of compost and has good soil microbiology and he is not
    worried. His farming approach is to feed the plants.


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    • too true

      Feed the plants, as in water them yourself with filtered water?? That could help. There are objective scientific tests showing that you can effectively remove almost all Uranium from soil with baking soda.

      There are many variables. I’m shocked that Farmers’ organizations aren’t getting more active on this!!? What is with that?? They could band together and issue some basic advice and directives to the farmers who are already super conscientious.


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      • too true

        If it’s tough to create certification via govt. then market your own, and document your private testing and methods. There ARE methods and the Farmers need to work together to get on them….FAST!!!

        All the farmers I’ve known work incredibly hard and have a lot of pride…this should fuel the movement!!!

        p.s. Any demonstrably healthy products are only going to become more valuable as this wears on, so don’t worry so much about cost up-front. Food prices will be on a tear into the future.


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      • Dbug

        Too true, Could you please provide a credible link to those objective scientific tests showing that we can remove uranium from soil with baking soda? Once the uranium is in the baking soda, how does one remove that?

        Always double-checking the science… Did you know that only people who have eaten pickles or have met someone that has eaten pickles are affected by radiation? I have yet to find even one exception. We’re really in a pickle… but I still like pickles and cucumbers too.


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        • too true

          DBug,
          References to the study, where they cleaned soil with baking soda, are all over the net-take your pick. Apparently, they conducted the test at Los Alamos.

          “So useful and strong is sodium bicarbonate that at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, researcher Don York has used baking soda to clean soil contaminated with uranium. Sodium bicarbonate binds with uranium, separating it from the dirt; so far, York has removed as much as 92 percent of the uranium from contaminated soil samples. I started writing about baking soda after discovering that the United States Army recommends the use of bicarbonate to protect the kidneys from radiation damage.”
          http://blog.imva.info/medicine/reducing-radiation-damages-with-bicarbonate

          I saw citations to the various findings in prior readings online. Sorry I don’t know which ones!…I was out of town and using someone else’s computer right after the disaster.
          Here is some verification of Don York’s work in NM: http://cedb.asce.org/cgi/WWWdisplay.cgi?85145


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          • Dbug

            On Baking soda and uranium… I reviewed the links to see what works with the use of baking soda.

            As far as the dog (and I trust people) goes, at least this source isn’t using it for removal but to neutralize some acidity that resulted from the uranium. But if it binds and helps removal from soil, maybe that mechanism works too. No word about effectiveness with isotopes we see.

            Other articles I’ve read talking about using baking soda to neutralize acidity say it does that well, but it can be dangerous for some people because it causes sodium levels to skyrocket (affects blood pressure).

            The cleaning of soil requires leeching the soil (out of the ground, perhaps on screening supported by a metal grill) with a solution of baking soda and water. Then figure out how to dispose of the water… not easy and very difficult for a large area, but something at least. Maybe viable for a small garden plot? No word if it helps with fission product fallout. I suppose one could measure the radioactivity in the runoff water and see how much more leaches with soda.


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        • Dr. Stranglelove

          Cucs give me hives.


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    • extra knight

      Certification will not make the food safer..

      and closing your eyes and throwing concern and the truth into the wind will not make the food and safer either. some serious hard choices need to be made here, of course uc davis is tragically towing the bananas/airplanes/speedboats line, food safety is just a big phate joke to them as agribusiness is *definitely* oodles more concerned with profits and appearances of safety than actually providing any realword protections against contaminated foods and produce and/or tangling with the real issues.


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      • Anthony

        You know the cruel irony is certification is as good as the systems which & people who administer it. Which in our case, with food certification, points us back to entrusting our food safety with the same government who is all but invisible when we need and expect interaction and exchange.


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  • too true

    After Chernobyl, the Ukraine has re-claimed 10s of thousands of acres for farming that were formerly heavily contaminated. How to??? Time again to consult those Russians!


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    • Cassie

      It is said that the Japanese refuse to speak to the Russians who
      have offered to help. This is going beyond incompetence to criminal.


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      • aptos

        Probably old wounds from the past.


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      • Anthony

        In times of great difficulty one often has to reach well beyond their comfort zones for solutions. It would demonstrate great wisdom and leadership for Japan to rise and shine in their moment.


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        • Cassie

          History has shown us that the most ordinary of men can rise to face severe challenges, and exhibit great wisdom, courage and leadership.

          I am hoping this will prove the case for us now.


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      • Dbug

        They (Japan) are indeed adopting some of the methods the Russians used, and the Russians have been providing feedback. In spite of some strained relations, Russian shipped additional natural gas to Japan to help relieve the shortage following destruction of a refinery.

        The primary dispute is over several islands to the north of Japan that were Japanese. The Russians occupied them in WWII and never gave them back. Japan was occupied too, by the U.S. (they had attacked the U.S.) and control was later returned.

        Maybe it isn’t fair to call someone criminal for an unconfirmed, unsourced (“it is said”???) accusation. Such statements should set off our B.S. detectors.


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        • Cassie

          I agree that we need to be careful and not contribute to unnecessary hyperbole.

          But I stand by my general feeling that at the end of the day there will be some gross incompetence at the very least, bordering on criminal in this case.

          That said, I hope I am proven wrong.


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      • xdrfox

        They may not want to hear form the Russians they need to get a half million men in there to clean up this mess and to contain it as Russia did !


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  • DarylAnn

    feels like nuclear winter here in northeastern New York State – heavy gloom, no sun, just a hard hard rain falling and very chilly temps


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    • Cassie

      Same here in Ohio.
      Been thinking the very same thing.
      Nuclear winter.
      Dark, gloomy, foreboding, rain, cold, heavy.
      Not like mid may at all.
      Many of the things we planted a couple of weeks ago are dying.
      Too cold and too much water?


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      • mothra

        My mom’s Spring perrenial bulbs are wilting, dying off too. They’re rain drenched there. She covered raised beds and they’re swapping out and deep tilling the soil, but she says there’s so much rain in surrounding yard that she wants to switch to sheet protected raised bed domes this year for edibles. I’m all for that!


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        • extra knight

          wildlife is definitely disappearing around here. quite sad and tragic.


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          • too true

            Both sadly and strangely, I’ve seen 6 (!) squirrel roadkill carcasses within a 1/2 mile of my neighborhood. We don’t have a lot of traffic, but there are trees… For years now, the squirrels always had such fast reflexes that they never got hit by a car! But, now? Could the I-131 that they’ve documented here be compromising their little thyroids, speed, and metabolism??! :( They have no protection & I have noticed that they are out there eating in the rain…:(
            It infuriates me how these animals have to suffer like this. Please protect your pets, etc.


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          • too true

            I urge you to take active, aggressive steps to protect your animals.

            Next I’m going to contact Zoos and tell them to step up health measures for the last of such rare animals!…..

            We really need to end the IGNORANCE.


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      • Anna

        Somewhere back on the threads today I posted the HAARP ring locations from last night until this AM. Have not looked recently. Anyway, they were stationed out over WA/OR, Boise, Idaho, Utah, MI (north and southeast- into the lakes area and top of Ohio), one over NY and into Penn. Oh, and also on the border of CA and OR right in the center.


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    • Percy

      Look up “Pacific Decadal Oscillation” in wikipedia. We are having a record cold and rainy spring in Olympia, WA, but you can’t link events like this to the nuclear accident or climate change–you need decades of data to see any trends. This appears more like a PDO cycle. My squirrels are fine by the way, but the cold wet spring will mean more nest failures by birds.


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      • Anna

        Hi Percy, I am not linking the accident with the weather. I just wanted to point out that the weather is being manipulated. They have been holding a HAARP ring over WA. I don’t see it today (finally) but they are still holding one over the border of CA/OR to goes below Roseburg, OR to above Redding, CA. There is a border of one I can see in Kansas. I don’t know what to make of why they choose to HAARP certain areas and not others. The one over Utah might still be there. That storm has not budged. I was talking to someone from there and they said that there is flooding and the snow at Alta, the ski resort, is yet to melt. We have been under non-stop gray sky for MONTHS where I live. We were bumping along at about 42F for some days now and I am getting damn tired of it. Today it is 50F. Yay. 50 and gray. I’ll stop complaining now as I am sure there are plenty of Japanese who would love to be here instead of where they are.

        I don’t see mamma birds sitting on nests or baby birds. I see bird couples of all types side by side. I am not a bird mating expert so I don’t know if this is normal for this time of year. Chipmunks and Fox squirrels are around but the Eastern Greys have gone into hiding or something. They used to be around frequently-even through the snow.


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  • Sam

    Support the small farmer doing their best to grow the healthiest
    produce for you. Support them to continue enriching their soils.
    But of equal importance is to demand that the testing of the fall out
    be resumed again and continue on a regular basis. Berkeley Nuclear
    Lab is to commended for their testing. Where is the public outcry
    for the government on all levels to do testing? The denial and
    continued silence is truly shocking but of no surprise.


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    • Cassie

      Yes not surprising.
      We have a media black out and only silence from the government.
      That along with denial (who wants to know the truth when it is so horrific?) makes for people not demanding or asking for any information or testing.


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    • Franky

      I agree with you Sam, most people don’t want to think about it. They live in apathy and unfortunately it will bite all of us in the ass.


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  • bfly

    Im so glad Mothera is back! sorry to hear of your illness. Now that are worst fears are confirmed. Now what? There are three molten masses of fuel. I read somewhere that they could explode when it works its way to the water table..? Does any one know ?


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    • extra knight

      without a doubt, it is possible that the single or double radioactive corium blobs are now chewing their way through the concrete and cement layers of the sub-basement(s) of what is remaining of the reactor buildings, if there is such a thing.


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      • Cassie

        Where does the blob go?
        If it hits the water table what happens?
        How far does it sink?
        The water table is supposed to be only a couple of feet below the basement? Is that correct?
        What kind of explosion are we talking about?

        Thank you in advance for any information you can give me.
        I am suffering from info deficit disorder. :(


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        • Arizonan

          No, Gunderson said he thinks the water table is 60 feet below the basement…not sure where this data comes from though…but Gunderson, a nuclear engineer, is a very reliable source.


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          • Arizonan

            There is a theory that the corium could explode on contact with the water table, if there were a high difference in temperature between the water and the corium when/if they ever meet.

            Actually I will have to look back at Gunderson archive…I think he actually said the bedrock was 60ft deep, so I guess the water table is running along on top of the bedrock? I would have to see if one can research the Fukushima water table level again to be sure…I’ll go look…


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          • Cassie

            Thank you Az for your response.
            The info about the water table has not been
            reassuring, but the press probably doesn’t know
            what they are talking about…..
            I think I read here that the reactors were built
            on back filed marsh……. would that mean there is no
            bedrock at all?


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  • nancy

    There’s a really good article about reclaming the land. Google “The Nuclear Forest Recovery Zone – Mycoremediation of the Japanese Landscape After Radioactive Fallout”.
    Also, be careful about your pot – it soaks up radiation, too. (grow in indoors)


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  • Noah

    Partial Completion of Passive Window Filtration Project

    This weekend I almost completed the replacement of my homes window screens with the pollen filtering screening I had ordered.

    The goal being dust reduction within the home. Radioactive dust particles, theoretically can ride on the wind into the home, sometimes clinging to, or mixed with dust particles.

    Fairewinds’ founder Maggie Gundersen interviewed environmental scientist and professional engineer Marco Kaltofen, Grad Student at WPOLYTECH about his ongoing analysis of radioactive fallout from Fukushima. The Kaltofen interview clearly illustrates that dust reduction is a chief protocol in nuclear hygiene.

    Though these radioactive particles are small, because they are highly charged, they have “static cling” and will stick to dust and dirt particles, walls, carpet, the grand piano, the flat monitor screen, etc. They can be cleaned off by wiping, with Swiffer, washing with soap and water (wash your car, and polish it so dust will not stick as much), or vacuuming with a HEPA quality vacuum cleaner really helps.

    Run HEPA quality air purifiers.

    You cannot totally eliminate dust from the home or car, but you can reduce it.

    I predict that, positive pressure clean room homes will be designed and built in the coming decades, customers will demand it as awareness slowly spreads over the next century of fallout accumulation.

    If you cannot wash down your screens, try using Swiffer to clean them. The screening contractor who replaced my screening material stated that the Swiffer product imparts a chemically induced electrostatic charge to the screens that help attract dust particles to the screen, helping filter the air a little bit.

    The window screening contractor did say that the smaller openings a screen has the more dirt it keeps out, but with reduced air flow. The smallest, or finest mesh he has is a product called 30-30. But, the one he was installing for me has finer, smaller holes.

    Other projects: On going chelation

    More pre-311 Apple Pectin from Swanson arrived, we are grateful to have a supply of it.

    Apple pectin is effective in the chelation of C-137, it is mild and inexpensive to purchase.


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    • Noah

      Apple Pectin, C-137 and the food supply.

      C-137, as you are aware of is a potassium mimic. Plants and animals uptake Cesium, and it works its way into the whole food supply. At this point, I believe it is almost impossible to avoid eating some Cesium contaminated food.

      What do you do?

      The Noah family is taking Apple Pectin before, with and after every meal. The theory is that the Pectin will chelate the C-137, within the foods we eat, during the digestive process, while the Cesium is still in liquid suspension within the digestive tract. The Pectin will bind with the C-137 as it is mixed with the food by peristaltic action and carry the C-137 out the other end.

      Chelating the C-137 out before it is absorbed by tissue is the hope. If I can just reduce the amount of C-137 absorbed, this too is good.

      I am also looking into processing foods and liquids using Apple Pectin as a precipitating chelator to remove the Cesium before it is eaten. I am weak in food processing chemistry so I could use help in this matter.

      Apple Pectin was used during the Chernoble disaster by Russian scientists with good effect. I look to this organic extract again during this ongoing genetic holocaust.


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    • Anna

      Tip:
      Pledge Dust and Allergen Dry Cloths are more effective than Swiffer. I learned this tip from a housekeeper that cleans for people who have houses outfitted for chemical/allergy sensitivities. She rates Swiffer at a 1 and Pledge at 10. 10 being the best score.


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  • Cat101

    Sorry if this is off topic, but I really am wondering how many of you are staying out of your swimming pools this summer due to radioactive rainfall.I keep staring out my window at my pool wondering whether to open it or not.Thanks for your opinions.PS. i live in Western NY


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    • Cassie

      We were on vacation the week after Fukushima earthquake,
      and I felt uneasy about letting my child swim in the hotel outdoor pool
      after a hard rain. (This was in Fla). But she insisted and I relented.
      Now I am rethinking the summer pool season as well. We live in the midwest.

      So I am wondering the same thing and hope to get some feedback here.


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      • Dbug

        Well I hate to be the one to break it too ya, those kids… those kids are virtual fuel kegs of radiation. Between their taste for milk and those darling little thyroids, they’ve just got a glow to ‘em.

        So throw those radiant kids in the pool pond, it’s designed to cool them off. Throw some irradiated cow on the barbecue and have some burgers on a cesium-seed bun.

        Don’t worry, the kids will be happy. They’ve been studying over the years diligently watching Mutant Ninja Turtles.

        If ya get bored, turn on the telly and watch the guy on RT. Kinda funny how the story is elsewhere but he’s shown being in Hiroshima. I guess he wanted to pick someplace that didn’t have much radiation. Imagine that.


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      • Arizonan

        It is true that we have previously had higher levels of fallout, during the atmospheric testing of nuclear bombs in Nevada in the 1950s and early 60s. It is true that that fallout caused increased cancers, and an increase in miscarriages and low birth weight babies. The most one can do is to take the potassium iodide and give it to children. See http://www.llrc.org for proper dosage etc. This is only to help with reducing the risk associated with ingestion or inhalation of radioactive I-131. I’m sure some of these other remedies people have mentioned here may help as well, especially the mild chelation methods, to help remove heavy metals from our bodies. On the other hand, we are all now at increased risk of adverse health effects, already. Busby recommends not eating/drinking anything above 50 Bq/kg (as in spinach). Milk accumulates I-131 fast, so that’s why Phoenix had 32 Bq/litre in March, after the main explosion (so far, at least). External exposure in a swimming pool in Florida shouldn’t expose anyone to major extra risks; the main increase in risk is through internal exposure: drinking, eating, breathing. Don’t drink the swimming pool water, but enjoy the cool water and enjoy the summer! Everyone’s risk of cancer and other health effects has increased, and will continue to increase the longer those reactors are leaking anything radioactive into the environment. We are already close to 1 in 2 people getting cancer now; in a few generations, because of bioaccumulation and circulation of long-lived radionuclides, it may be that closer to 100% of humans will get it at some point in their lives. Every release of radiation anywhere, at any level, increases our risk. Still, we must go on living and enjoying our lives. Thirty years (Cs-137) is a long time to be scared, a long time to mourn. 30,000 years (Pu) is even longer. Fukushima may be the worst disaster of our lifetimes, but it is too slow-moving to hold the mainstream media attention for long. If it really is a black out or a cover up, it is one of the most complete I have ever experienced.


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      • Mommamia

        I would be more worried about the dispersants that BP used on the gulf spill being in the rain in FL!


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    • Anna

      I would stay out of the pool. Chlorine and radioactivity wouldn’t be a good combo IMHO.


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      • radegan

        The chlorine would volatilize the iodine. Very unlikely any of it in the water after a few hours, but it’s sticky, so it would land nearby, on the cement, the pool furniture.


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        • Anna

          There still could be cesium and strontium, etc.


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        • Noah

          An interesting way to dechlorinate water

          In the professional world of tropical fish collecting, chlorinated water injures the health of fish, possible leading fish die offs and disease state induced by immune suppression by chlorine toxicity.

          In an emergency, when only chlorinated water is available to place fish into, an collector having no time to outgas a gallon of water by letting it sit for a day, or carbon filtration, will use the emergency water declorification method.

          Emergency Chlorine Removal

          1. Place clean hand into gallon of clorinated tap water.

          2. Leave hand in the water for one minute.

          3. Withdraw hand.

          4. Water will be declorinated.

          5. Test water, chlorine should be gone.

          Your body has absorbed all the clorine, leaving the water safe for fish.


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    • kx

      if you have a pool probably you can pay for a water sample analysis, share it after.


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      • Cassie

        tnx kx
        it is a neighborhood pool…..
        think we will stay out of it this summer to be on the safe side.


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        • Anna

          Yeah, I would. It will save you from worrying every night, for years, when you lay your head down to try to sleep. Without testing there is no room for could have, would have, should have.


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  • Somi

    About the “Flu- Bugger”:
    Okay, I don’t know what is going on … Back around April 12-th I had a funny feeling in my trhoat like something got stuck ( like when you take a big – as I call it – horse pill and it does not go down all the way) also one of my eye looked like I had a pink eye but it was not a pink eye…I stugled with it for over 10 days…Finaly it went away I washed my eye out every day with eyewash soulition then treated it with eye alergy relief drops… Then the beginning of this month almost every morning I have horsness and stuffy nose, also I have headaches and nasea every other day… I work outside in a nursery 3-4 days a week. It has been pretty dry here and we have major drought… It has been lots of wind from the South and the Low pressures forming over the state almost every week but not much of percipitation fallen here. I have bodyaches, fautige and tiredness after I have been outside for 6 hrs…
    Some may say it is thanks to the allergy season, in my oppinion there is more to it… we had crazy weather around the planet and that is not related to fukushima it is related to all those volcano irruptions all over the world… But the wind is a different story: I as a non scientist thinking of- If we have contamination of the soil and it dries out and becomes dust which could travel 1000 miles away from it is origin shouldn’t we concerned about that?
    On the other hand I am kinda irritated because the EPA no longer doing testing… that is pretty ridicules – oh maybe they got told to hush hush… what that good will do?! 20 yrs from now I guarantee it we will have even more people dying from cancer…. The American Cancer Society estimated over 1/2 million people die from cancer( of any kind in the USA) in 2008 wonder how is it now the rate and what was before Chernobyl…I bet it is still rising…
    I think the most important is to educate people about radiation and cancer and how to avoid exposure and how to contain things like Fukusima…
    And I am sorry if I ofend anyone, but Maybe Japan this way would like to take a revenge for Hirosima and Nagasaki …… or they just siply don’t know what to do and how to do it… they need to clear their head and work the soulution not running around like a crazy butchered chicken who lost its head… why they did not already started to create a concrete tomb? why they are just now trying to evacuate some of the areas…why?why? why?
    ( ps.: I am not a scientist of any kind, I am just a concerned citizen in the USA who beat cancer once and survived Chernobyl by living in a neighbouring country in Europe and saw people taken away by cancer…thank you for reading this :) )


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    • Cassie

      Today at least five people I know stayed home from work or school with very bad sore throats and coughs.
      We have had non stop rain for weeks here…..
      ???
      We are in the midwest.


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    • Info

      Trust your own instincts. You know what’s normal and what isn’t. People told us it was probably pollen but our pollen count was low!

      You can check your local pollen situation here:

      http://www.wunderground.com


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    • Anthony

      I enjoyed your post. I think what I like here is to learn and evolve my thinking and open mindedness. Everybody is coping the best way they now how. I think we all agree the Government is oddly missing from the table. There`s lots to think about, not all of it is pleasant for sure. Take care


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    • Cesium1970

      Well so far we are dealing with two groups of people who are either trying to seal themselves from the outside air or completely ignoring the facts of contamination.
      My recommendations were based upon two reasons:
      It is very difficult to get immediate results from testing (although sending air balloons and radio controlled planes armed with beta-counters into the air masses approaching the US from NW Pacific can be priceless idea)
      No planned intended studies were conducted on infants and small children how the small amount of radioactive isotopes accumulated over the time can affect their health.
      Therefore proceeding with caution is a great idea.
      Based from Chernobyl experience,
      High risk group includes:
      Pregnant and nursing women;
      Infants and toddlers (both sexes)
      Girls younger the 10 years old
      Children (both sexes) below 13 to 16 years of age (data varies)
      The molecular I-131 isotope has same chemical properties as its stable isotope;
      It has poor solubility in water but good in alcohol, certain organic solvents and milk.
      Iodine salts, however have very good solubility in water but most of I-131 was relesed in its molecular form
      It behaves similar to Halogens (fluorine, chlorine and bromine) but least reactive then these elements.
      Its molecules are largest then of the rest of these elements.
      Based upon these properties we can conclude that
      The iodine will precipitate after the rain and concentrate near the ground
      Most of the iodine will be deposited on the surface of vegetables but may not get into them (unless you water them with alcohol or milk)
      The activated carbon filter can remove I-131 from the water
      High concentrations of fluorine and chorine compounds in drinking water can act equally to KI, blocking absorption of iodine (and causing slow thyroid according to some studies).
      High levels of sodium fluoride in drinking water wellsnear Kiev (Ukrainian capital) caused higher prevalence of endemic goiters but lower number of ThyCa cases after Chernobyl)
      The recommendations to eat food rich in iodine AFTER fallout can result in people eating the food contaminated with I-131 in much higher concentration then surrounding soil (bioaccumulation effect).
      (and this made me particularly angry; I discharged it towards one journalist who made such suggestion).


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  • Cat101

    Gzee, Dbug, you forgot to mention a trip to DQ for some ice cream.


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  • Cat101

    Thanks, Anna, what is IMHO?


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  • Ted

    Alright everybody, its time to sue nuclear power companies. Class action suit.


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    • radegan

      Not so easy, Ted. Lots of the problem is used fuel rods in storage.
      GE told them not to use those fuel ponds for anything but loading, no storage allowed, it’s in the manual. But get this –

      All those fuel rods were there because the US was in violation of the NPT treaty Japan signed in 1970 which specified that all used fuel from Japan’s reactors had to be sent to the US for storage or reprocessing. We didn’t have room for it and told them to hold on to it, we’d get it later. So it’s the US fault that all that spent fuel was lying around. So you see, at least for part of the damages – it’s your liability as a US taxpayer.


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    • Cassie

      Oh ya that’ll work. Not.
      Just wait, they will all get bonuses.


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  • shock the monkey

    please Ted dont use the sue word
    that will bring lawyers into this mess


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    • Regina

      Actually, we could really use an Erin Brockovich here and a great team of environmental lawyers. The Gulf of Mexico needs them, too. The laws exist and there are some gutsy, honest Fed. judges still on the bench. We have to keep fighting any way we can!~


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  • David M

    Don’t forget to post your frustration on the EPA Facebook wall.


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  • Heart of the Rose

    Post this back to them (EPA)..say thanks a lot..
    http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/GrijalvaLtWHouseJan25.pdf
    We know all about their criminality.


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  • Heart of the Rose

    Yeah..do that ..post these slobs their own stuff back..do it to others ..let them see the garbage they spew.


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  • The pdf in link as below, contains last night result for water contamination tests. The green line is at reading average. Please note that the “air in chamber” as well as the rain water got same level of contamination, and the deep well water (drinking water from 150m depth) is less radioactive.

    http://www.pelczar.com.pl/Measurements-using-PT00109-1-Geiger-Muller-Sensor.pdf


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  • Dr. Stranglelove

    On the bright side, you will use less electricity when your food glows in the dark.


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  • Cesium1970

    Who has higher ability to absorb I-131;
    People with increased iodine uptake which includes:
    Children, lactating and pregnant women, girls during puberant growth
    People with toxic goiters (diffuse or nodular), and recovering from thyroid inflammation
    People who are deficient in iodine, provided that no other halogenic compounds present in their food or water.
    The lowest uptake of I-131 is found among the people who have acute phase of thyroid inflammation, living in iodine sufficient regions, or whose iodine absorption is blocked by other halogenic compounds.
    Let’s look into the example:
    You are having filter on your tap water (which blocks molecular I and Cl) you are eating non-iodized salt, using fluoride free toothpaste, and you like to drink milk (which is contaminated with I-131) In this case you are getting I-131 from the milk.


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  • stob

    Be warned!(And you can find this news if ya google it
    ). Fda quietly raises “safe” radiation levels 500 to 25000 times previous units.
    I’ve stopped all leafy green intake,all milk,anything from the west coast, and am eating dulce as an iodine suppliment.
    What to do when there’s a media blackout and the fda is covering up?


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  • Jack

    Not IF, but When…
    Lay not up your treasures where moth and rust doth corrupt.
    Jesus, thenk You for saving me, and please be merciful and help my
    family members who have grown wise in their conceit. Help my
    sister who is addicted to cigarettes to the point she doesn’t think
    straight. Please help any of the people here in unbelief, not knowing
    Your Peace which passeth all understanding.
    Thank You, Jesus, Yahshua.


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  • Jack

    Not IF, but When…
    Lay not up your treasures where moth and rust doth corrupt.
    Jesus, thenk You for saving me, and please be merciful and help my
    family members who have grown wise in their conceit. Help my
    sister who is addicted to cigarettes to the point she doesn’t think
    straight. Please help any of the people here in unbelief, not knowing
    Your Peace which passeth all understanding.
    Thank You, Jesus, Yahshua.


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  • When?

    When will the earthquake hit?


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  • mark V

    “What I see happening is more earthquakes here in the USA”

    People have some intelligence here, we are all concerned, but we try to learn how nuclear reactors work, what could be the impacts of accumulated radiation, and what we could do to protect our loved and force “the selected” to act.


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  • more visions...?

    Thanks for your views! I also have psychic visions…for many years. I’m not a professional, but my ability has been accurate and uncanny. Ghosts visit me at graveyards & historic sites, etc…There is a hereafter. And professional psychics tell me that I have powerful, untapped potential before I say a word… So, for the record…

    I ALSO have had a few visions of the most populated parts of California facing major havoc in the near future… I had images of huge waves and catastrophic flooding… I wondered if the Fukushima quake had been represented by my premonitions when it hit, but my visions were more directly about CA. That was clear. I’m talking downtown L.A. and water rising up the skyscrapers…

    Thanks for corroborating what I wish was not the case. I didn’t pick up a full 1000 pounds of food, but I did have the instinct to do that as well…(I often doubt my visions and then they come true!)

    Everything is telling me NOT to be in CA, although I had plans to visit this month. Something has kept blocking me to commit to plans out west…

    In all honestly, I would implore everyone to move from the West Coast no matter what the cost. Salvage what you can, take your seeds, livestock, animals, families, and friends with you. I do feel that you will be able to return, but it won’t be safe for a long time.


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  • Dr. Stranglelove

    Pschotic?


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  • Anthony

    It would be unnerving to look back a month from now and be saying “I wish I had listened to my feelings on this“…

    Since 311 I have had a deep sense that the little we have witnessed to date, is not the whole of the dangerous part of the Japan disaster event. I am glad I was wrong about something bad occurring this weekend! Sometimes I love being wrong.


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  • more visions...?

    Psychic ability is a higher form of intelligence, albeit a very weighty one. I hope you can appreciate warnings and trust your instincts as well! I still think there is hope for mankind, but preparation and location is key.


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  • xdrfox

    Glad you were wrong too !


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