Published: May 23rd, 2011 at 4:26 pm ET
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U.N. body to probe Fukushima radiation impact, Reuters by Fredrik Dahl, May 23, 2011:
[...] The United Nations Scientific Committee on the effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR), which has published reports about the 1986 Chernobyl accident, said it would take at least two years to produce a full report on the issue.
“Everybody wants answers tomorrow or next week … but this is not possible. We need time,” UNSCEAR Chairman Wolfgang Weiss told a news conference [...] “So far what we have seen in the population, what we have seen in children with thyroid screening, what we have seen in workers … we wouldn’t expect to see health effects,” he said. [...]
Published: May 23rd, 2011 at 4:26 pm ET
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seating still available in hell
move along
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptmoVcgpqg&feature=youtu.be
I advise everyone to watch that as much as possible. This is the fukushima live cam. That steam is the worst things on earth. So keep your eye on it as much as you can.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptmoVcgpqg&feature=youtu.be
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as the UN shows itself to be yet another corrupt and unimportant “official” office.
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To some extent, yes. However, the UN is very useful in providing cover for NATO to bomb civilians and destroy nations that won’t play the game of the IMF, ECB and Federal Reserve. The central banks rule the world. Get used to it, slave.
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IMO, we are just guinea pigs to them!
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“Also today, the UN Committee on Tobacco presented it’s findings on the healthful benefits of smoking and recommended that all school children be issued cigarettes and taught to smoke.”
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I have first hand confirmation of what you’ve said
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“Over one thousand nuclear workers have internal radiation of 10,000+ cpm after visiting Fukushima” Banana’s in rediculously high amounts aren’t good for you…so how can radiation have no bad health effects?
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Maybe the UN should join this site and keep better informed? Its like authorities involved or expected to be involved (and are not) are losing massive credibility with their handling of this situation…
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FREE online version of the Yablokov report:
http://www.strahlentelex.de/Yablokov%20Chernobyl%20book.pdf
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/85736.html
OPINION: How to minimize consequences of the Fukushima catastrophe
By Alexey V. Yablokov
MOSCOW, April 15, Kyodo
http://counterpunch.org/nader04272011.html
April 27, 2011
Concealing the Consequences
Chernobyl 25 Years Later
By RALPH NADER
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Thank you for the links.
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Thanks. Also recommended:
1. Voices From Chernobyl: The Oral History of a Nuclear Disaster by Svetlana Alexievich (Author), Keith Gessen (Translator) -
This is the book I hope is available in Japan, searing and bewildering but IMO essential for historical hindsight into current events.
Includes anecdotal firsthand accounts from an extremely wide strata of Chernobyl witnesses. By contrast, in their report published primarily for the professional scientific community, biologist Yablokov and co-authors compiled and analyzed more than 5,000 articles from peer-reviewed scientific journals (translated from Belorussian, Ukrainian and Russian).
2. Chernobyl Heart by Adi Roche (available used or from AMAZON UK) -
Graphic. Strongly recommended for industry sychophants.
3. Chenobyl: Forbidden Truth by Alla Yaroshinskaya (Author), Michell Kahn (Translator), Michele Kahn (Translator), Julia Sallabank (Translator), David R. Marples (Introduction), John Gofman (Foreword) -
Yaroshinskaya and Gofman first met when each independently won the 1992 Right Livelihood Award, also known as the alternate Nobel Prize.
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Back to thread topic, related articles found today,
http://www.thailandoutlook.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1043397
Dying for TEPCO
UPDATE : 4 May 2011
By Paul Jobin
This is the first of two reports offering a worker-centered analysis of the Fukushima nuclear disaster. Cites Yablokov report, footnote #7.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Japan/ME05Dh01.html
This interview concludes a two-part account of the use of contract workers in the Japanese nuclear power industry and particularly at the Fukushima power plant largely destroyed by the March 11 earthquake and tsunami.
Also published here with some interesting comments:
http://www.truthout.org/work-fukushima-you-have-be-ready-die/1302159600
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Here is some reference with portrait just in case…
http://www.unscear.org/unscear/en/about_us/bio_w-weiss.html
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It should become clear now the officals in the U.N. cannot be considered “Human” in any form.
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On a side note: Japan’s economy has fallen into recession again:
“Clearly the earthquake/tsunami/nuclear crisis had a major impact in Q1 2011, but it is intriguing that the drop in that quarter was not that much greater than in Q4 2010. It is very possible that the Q1 figure will be revised to an even greater decrease.
The eastern half of the country will have to deal with severe electricity shortages for quite a while, as electric power is difficult to shift from other parts of the country due to incompatible transmission systems as shown in this chart of the country’s power grid:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-M2TlRUEatnI/TdbJX3tp2WI/AAAAAAAAAQc/qRIxnRYhAFs/s1600/632px-Power_Grid_of_Japan.PNG
The power shortages may last quite a long time; some experts are predicting that
Japan’s shortage of electricity may last two or three years and that production slowdowns will continue in many sectors such as automotive, semiconductors, electronics, special chemicals, machinery, and precision equipment. This seems likely to reduce the chances that GDP growth in Q2 2011 will be positive year on year.
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This is exactly happening how I described, the china syndrome, then full abandoment, then chaos. At what point will one choose, to take precaution in advance. Yet there is no press conference to the country. No huge international effort, and support. If the world would take this situation more seriously. The problem would have been fixed by march. We are a planet topping at roughly 7 billion. We have 7 billion reasons to fix this situation today. And everyday we waste, that number drops… Maybe its time cnn got back on the story.
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tacomagroove, thanks for your excellent posts here and elsewhere.
I occurs to me that TPTB WANT this event to cull us all.
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Population down 80%, coming up !
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Never let a good disaster go to waste !
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One interesting thought. most of these workers are temp’s. So once the engineers start showing signs of radiation sickness, and the crew leaders and emergency planners… Who will even know how to approach this situation? There would be mass confusion in the language barrier alone. If the front line falls there is really nothing humanity can do. We need more international aid. Top men. This is far too out of hand to limit the Japanese to politically motivated finances. Bill them later. Fix it now. If everyone at tepco dies Humanity loses the fight… Leaving those units without cooling for any amount of time will lead to sheer chaos. The situation in fukushima is a staggering 1000 sieverts an hour and climbing. at 2000, Things will just start going wrong. At 5000, Things will be impossible.
Where is the support?
Where is the media?
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*msv
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totally! There are too many alarming, hard facts now to claim that it’s no big deal or no longer “newsworthy.” 1. Level 7 2. Still Uncontained 3. Dying, injured workers 4. Record radiation test findings and 5. Multiple reactors confirmed in full meltdown phase!!
This should be the lead story….
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Why not, a try is a try. Be one of those 7 billions and you may just find out how satisfactory the feeling is.
http://edition.cnn.com/CNN/anchors_reporters/
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CNN, FOX, CBS, NBC, are all the to me.
Just different flavors of brain poisoning.
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same
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> This is exactly happening how I described, the china syndrome, then full abandoment, then chaos.
We’re almost two and a half months down the line from the most critical situation, when exactly is your prediction going to become reality?
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2-60 years. The latency period.
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“It remains our view that when there is an unknown then it is always better to err on the side of caution,” said Gideon Ewers, spokesman for the International Federation of Air Line Pilots’ Associations.
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Hmmm, now if we could just get the UN Committee and the Nuclear Industry to embrace and bring such sound thinking to their profits, safety would be a natural byproduct process.
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Wouldn’t screening the workers and finding internal radiation exposure be your first real indicator that there are indeed effects that are going to be caused on their healths by the radiation?
I mean It being inside them is an effect right? Did anyone miss that in the headline? T
Like Isn’t this a way of saying, no worries we monitored them; and while you may express a concern for their health we assure you that 10,000+ internal radiation counts per-minute, is absolutely nothing to be concerned of?
How many counts is a concern?
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the whole thing stinks of a stall campaign, and has from day #1. this is one HUGE committee under-action. any evidence that this UN “Scientific Committee” (UNCLEAR – my name for it) hasn’t ‘analyzed’ for themselves will be off-handed as either inconclusive or incorrect by any of a million creative ‘explanations’ of their own concoction. try getting two doctors to agree on what’s wrong with you and see how far you get. this is like that, but by committee, and that’s a whole other level of hell.
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I believe you are correct. Legally speaking this strategy is called causation burden shifting to the affected victims. It’s a tough threshold to meet for disempowered individuals suffering the effects, but the strategy has worked effectively for industry in the past. Clearly.
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this planet is an embarrassment too the rest of the universe
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Good News. When we go Fuku supernova, their embarrassing problem child goes away.
And a bonus to neighboring planets, they get an extra sun and tropical weather. Tell them to get the sun screen ready.
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Yes..one can only hope there is higher intelligence in the universe.
We are technologically advanced but in civilization decline.
We have failed to evolve.
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Science anyone?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_radiation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPZta8ENBHw&feature=related
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The song goes something like this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=903QqsmMMdE&feature=fvsr
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Heart you have hit the nail on the head.
Advanced technology but a lack of a moral center, lack of wisdom.
PS we are having tornado sirens going off right now….
straight line storms turning into funnel clouds.
Going to basement. We live in tornado country.
Cassie
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take care cassie…
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HI Heart:
It’s OK, storm cells passing now, funnels north and south of us. Will be over in a bit here looks like. Hail and wind. Going through quite fast. Across town some roofs blown off, that is all. Hope the rest of Ohio and Pa is OK where the storms are headed.
Such strange weather every where. I’ll take it however over going super nova.
Cassie
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Uncle Arnie is not going to discuss neutron radiation.
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I wonder if anyone, anywhere will do some straight talking.
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LOL..I just did ..cassie…
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LOL yes of course. And bless you.
I meant the idiots we pay to talk straight and help us.
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Sounds like the other planets We have ruined.One of the reasons They put Us way out on the edge of space is to keep Us far away from Them as possible.
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We’re in over our heads. That’s why no main stream media, no Government, Nuclear agency, or Electric utility like Tepco will acknowledge the seriousness of this disaster. We’re simply in over our heads, without a viable solution, without a paddle. It’s not some world-wide evil plan to control population by “letting her burn”, it’s simply too much, too impossible, too grand in scope, to deal with. An affront to the whole human race, and to life itself. I thought we were better than this. Who the hell thought this was a great idea?
What can we do? Start a grass roots movement. Everyone here has access to local news, local papers. Everyone, wherever you are, write your paper! Write the paper’s editor, get the word out. Get the truth out. If we all do it, it WILL get to the main stream media. Don’t fear looking like a nut. Fear only the future if we do not act now. Write your paper, write your congressman, write your M.P., write today, and write often. If everyone, we, all did this, the sleeping masses will awaken, and we ca gain some control over this monster!
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head of house,
correct. there is no banker family on a hill in switzerland eating hydroponically grown organic and drinking defluoridated water counting their gold bars. there is no conspiracy to kill billions.
there is however, a bunch of ants running around doing their friends favors in high places and cutting corners by bribing leaders; and over many many decades, the observer looks at the anthill to see nothing but inefficient disprogress and disgrace.
and so it goes…
…when money was made debt, and man was made god, we abdicated our humanity, and resigned ourselves to hell.
hepa. reverse osmosis. polimaster 1208/ terra mks 05.
soon to add a whole lot of faith that the filter of Time will cleanse this planet from the scum seeping through every crack.
as it always has.
as it forever and ever will.
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there is no banker family on a hill in switzerland eating hydroponically grown organic and drinking defluoridated water counting their gold bars
True, they’re in Paraguay.
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And, organize and sue. It’s all they know or respond to.
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LOL what utter BS. They must be smoking some good stuff over at the UN.
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Fukie plume forecasts at: http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/news/fukushima?VAR=zamg
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Looks like South Korea will be getting some I-131, look at the projected volume.
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The model works on assumed emissions, nobody knows what is actually being released
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@pAnIc Seems that they are pretty good at these forecasts-http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=en&VAR=zamgvalidation
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I didn’t mean that. IF there is a release then the model is accurate, agreed. If there is less or nothing, then not so. The validation is from mid-March.
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ive been wondering somthing.
here in the midwest we’ve been getting almost constant rain, right now it doesnt go more than a day or 2 without rain. plus heavy wicked thunderstorms, with powerful tornadoes.
with all the releases from fukushima im wondering if all the heavy elements in the atmosphere have been producing a “cloud seeding” effect. this never ending deluge of rain started about the same time as the accident.
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There has been a lot of HAARP shenanigans going on on top of you. I was thinking that “thunder snow” and “thunder sleet” were from so much metal in the air via chemtrail aluminum because it was happening before fuku.
It is a point to ponder on…the radioactive particles influencing the weather.
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midwest guy, I’ve been thinking the same thing.
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Japan raises permissible radiation levels for children
Mark Willacy reported this story on Tuesday, May 24, 2011 08:24:00
*or the protestors, the meltdown at Fukushima is an ominous warning that the government must heed.
(Sound of Tsutomu Une speaking)
“This is an opportunity to get rid of nuclear energy and to switch to renewable energy,” says Tsutomu Une. “If we let this chance pass us by we’re wasting all the sacrifices made by the victims of this disaster,” he says.*
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2011/s3225020.htm
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I’m gonna assume people have read the webbot report by Cliff High. Or this gem from the Oraibi, Arizona Hopi Nation concise as it is….
You have been telling people that this is the Eleventh Hour, now you must go back and tell people this is the Hour.
And there are things to be considered…………….
Where are you living?
What are you doing?
What are your relationships?
Where is your water?
Know your garden
It is time to speak your truth.
Create your community.
Be good to each other.
And do not look outside yourself for the leader.
Then he clasped his hands together, smiled, and said.
“This could be a good time! There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold onto the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly.
Know the River has its destination. The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above water.
And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate. At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally, least of all ourselves. For the moment we do, our spiritual growth and journey comes to a halt.
The time of the lone wolf is over, gather yourselves!
Banish the word struggle from your vocabulary.
All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration.
We are the ones We’ve been waiting for!
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Wise knowledge, thank you for the lighting.
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I find this topic, the data revealed on high dosed workers, and this excerpt to be disharmonious in the extreme.
*He says unless the radiation levels at the stricken Fukushima power plant can be reduced soon more workers will be needed to replace those already badly exposed.
JOHN PRICE: The exhaustion of the workers, the radiological exhaustion of the workers is clearly already started.
What happens is that they are allowed to work in the space until they get 100 millisieverts. By the way these levels would produce no perceptible harm. They are allowed to work until they see 100 millisieverts and possibly up to 250 millisieverts if they are potentially saving life.
So after they get over 100 millisieverts they are supposed to be retired. That is they never work in a nuclear power station again. That’s the way it happens. *
Radiation could be carried across the Pacific
David Mark reported this story on Friday, March 18, 2011 08:06:00
http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2011/s3166353.htm
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UN opens probe into Japan’s crippled nuke plant
The new revelations indicate that earlier official assessments may have been too optimistic, said Goshi Hosono, director of Japan’s nuclear crisis task force.
“We should have made a more cautious damage estimate based on a worse scenario,” he said.
Fuel in three of the plant’s six reactors started melting after the March 11 tsunami knocked out cooling systems, prompting huge releases of radiation into the atmosphere — about one-tenth of the radiation released from the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, according to a government estimate.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110524/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake
“We should have made a more cautious damage estimate based on a worse scenario,” he said.
But they still beleive it released only about one-tenth of the radiation released from the Chernobyl disaster in 1986, according to a government estimate.
Japanese officials hope to bring the entire plant into “cold shutdown” — halting all radioactive leaks — by January at the latest.
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Naoto Matsumura, a 51-year-old rice and vegetable farmer who has stayed at his home despite radiation concerns and a lack of electricity and running water.
“Certainly, the life is not comfortable at all,” he said. “But I will not give up.”
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110524/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_earthquake
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UNSCEAR is utterly compromised. They are the UN wing of the nuclear industry. Somehow they managed to sly their way in to gain UN imprimatur for their pro-nuclear declarations. Even people in the UN have a problem with them.
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3rd-party panel must get to bottom of nuclear crisis
The Yomiuri Shimbun
****How could such a serious accident happen at one of Japan’s nuclear power plants, which were touted as being absolutely infallibly safe? This question must be answered clearly.
The government on Tuesday decided to set up a third-party expert panel to investigate the ongoing crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant operated by Tokyo Electric Power Co. The panel is expected to compile a midterm report by the end of this year.Detailed record needed
Meanwhile, the government has apparently not kept detailed records of discussions that were held to decide how to deal with this historic crisis. This is cause for grave concern.****
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Oops link to full story is here:
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/editorial/T110525004801.htm
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