Coverup? Now 170 microsieverts per hour at Tokyo supermarket — Elevated radiation found at multiple locations, yet gov’t thinks it was buried

Published: October 29th, 2011 at 11:48 am ET
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Oct. 29EX-SKF has the translation of a report by Jiji Tsushin on the extremely high radiation dose found in Tokyo:

“Regarding the detection of high radiation in the supermarket compound in Hachimanyama in Setagaya-ku, Tokyo, the Ministry of Education and Science announced in the early hours of October 29 that the maximum 170 microsieverts/hour radiation was detected.”

“The Ministry of Education thinks there must be the source of high radiation buried in the compound.”

EX-SKF writes, “A small problem, though. The same radiation source should be also buried beneath the sidewalk, which measured 110 microsieverts/hour on the surface.”

The location of the supermarket may ring a bell. Setagaya is where the government claimed radioactive bottles of paint were causing a hotspot in a residential area.

Measurements

According to the Ministry of Education and Setagaya-ku:

  • 170 microsieverts/hour radiation was detected on the ground surface near the shrubs about 60 centimeters away from the supermarket building
  • At the entrance of the supermarket, about 10 meters away from the high radiation spot, 110 microsieverts/hour radiation was detected on the ground surface
  • In addition to the two spots with high radiation, there are several locations inside the building on the floor that had the maximum 2.5 microsieverts/hour radiation

Read More: More on Setagaya-ku High Radiation Supermarket: Max Is 170 Microsieverts/Hour

Published: October 29th, 2011 at 11:48 am ET
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38 comments to Coverup? Now 170 microsieverts per hour at Tokyo supermarket — Elevated radiation found at multiple locations, yet gov’t thinks it was buried

  • ocifferdave

    Max of 2.5microsv/hr = 20.9millisv/year = EVACUATE MONTHS AGO when it was at less than half that.

    Moving: With me and my wife seriously going through the scenario of moving to a foreign country…well, I become acutely aware of the mental pain and stress that the Japanese Citizens that are thinking of moving, trying to move, are moving, and have moved must have gone through. I’m only looking at the entrance of this… some of them have gone all the way through. It SUCKS!

    There was a poster here 2 weeks ago-ish, that told us he moved his family, and every day he beats himself up wondering if it was the right move. We all, including me, jumped on the comment train and said of course it is! You HAVE to move! Well, the West Coast is becoming this same situation even on one hard bit of reality: Bioaccumulation (food supply). We are a part of Japan now on the West Coast. The only easy move that I can think that doesn’t need paperwork but gets you far away from the West Coast is Puerto Rico. Honduras is so full of crime…we hear its not the same place that we lived in 10 years ago. So expensive now and so dangerous. I think for now Honduras is off the table. Puerto Rico, though not cheap, is doable and quick. I’ll let you guys know what I find out about PR. Meets one big family requirment for us–Orthodox Church is there. And its clergy have translated all kinds of awesome Saint Stories and Services into Spanish which my wife will love.


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    • jimbojamesiv

      OcciferDave is an End of Dayers?


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    • Dogleg Dogleg

      Congrats OD! I applaud your strength. I looked into moving south in the first weeks (Australia/New Z), But met strong resistance from rest of family. It would have been a daunting task with many hurdles and the lack of family support made me give up on the idea for now. I am looking at North Dakota for now and it seems doable, but I am not eure how much better off we will be. Some many varibles and so little reliable info. I hadnt thought of PR. I am going to look into it and look foward to your insite/input. Godspeed my brother!


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      • ocifferdave

        let me know what you find about PR too. I used to be fulltime national guard and worked with the PR Army Guard guys in the past down in Honduras and other places. That could be an option for me. Also doing computer repair. I found that there is food card assistance of some kind there since the 70′s but no SSI for my autistic son. I’m concerned about living right on the northern coast due to earthquake or canary island volcano caving into the water and causing a super tsunami as predecited by science dudes on the discovery channel a few years ago. Maybe a place on the southern coast. As long as it isn’t too long a drive to San Juan (hour or less is good). It’s 100 miles more or less from West coast PR to East coast PR…big enough to explore for the rest of your life. I wish enenews had a prive message system really badly. send me an email at ocifferdave@hotmail.com and I will send you what I find out here or via email.


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        • Misitu

          Hi occifer

          about “but no SSI for my autistic son. I’m concerned about living right on the northern coast due to earthquake or canary island volcano caving into the water and causing a super tsunami”

          I would like to comment and I trust you will see this in a positive way. I guess Puerto Rico is a latinoamerican country in which case the bulk of support for the physically mentally and socially inconvenienced comes from the family not the state. I hope your plans come through but being a first worlder moving to the third world am very much aware of the vast gap between expectations and aspirations and the often unsuccessful attempts made by migrating first worlders to bridge this. Good luck and keep your eyes and ears open. The positive side to this is that many non white communities automatically open the sympathy valve to number 11 when they see a disadvantaged. This is especially true of descendants of the original americans but it may also be true of other unprivileged latinos.

          The risk of natural disasters needs to be prepared for and then lived with. If you can afford a house constructed in reinforced concrete you will be safer than in weaker structures but local building codes are not as effective as in richer countries. But you will all have to look out for each other and then get on with life. My destination country has regular exercises and civil defence but in the event of a mega disaster you need to be both prepared and lucky. So the notices say.

          I wouldn’t worry about mega disasters, rather concentrate all your efforts on assimilating into the world of the locals, remembering that as a migrant from the rich world you may be seen as a martian bearing gold and silver, do your duty to the locals without being patronising, and be sensitive to their needs often unrecognised by people like us from far away.

          Good Luck.


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      • Misitu

        Dogleg, if you go there remember to pay homage to those who lost their lives defending their lands against us the invaders over the past century.


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    • kintaman kintaman

      You may be referring to me as I have vented in the comments here several times about having evacuated my family and myself from Tokyo back in March. I am still in a state of shock on a daily basis. Thankfully my wife is very resilient and back to living happily here in North America but I am still fearful of the fallout here in as I know the jet stream is carrying it all here. I tell my family to avoid any west coast (Vancouver BC, California) food but they are all tired of hearing it.

      Leaving was and still is a terrible shock and there is an intense feeling of guilt. I have left my friends, coworkers and even extended family there. I know they have likely all consumed contaminated food and drink since that time and it is maddening to think about.

      I remember thinking, ironically, back in January (or so) of this year how Japan is likely one of the safer places to be as no country would ever get nuked a 3rd time. That would be unthinkable. Can you believe that not 2 months later we get self nuked by our power plants with over 60 times more radiation than Hiroshima? Unbelievable, truly.

      I feel I am in a nightmare world even here as hardly anyone around me has a clue of what is going on. Everyone is busy enjoying life and do not want to hear about this as it detracts from their busy and happy lives.

      I often sit and wonder, will I ever see Japan again? What will happen to the people there? What will happen to North America even?

      My feeling is that what has transpired in Fukushima is beyond the scope of anything that the officials could have envisioned and as such their only recourse is to downplay and deny. They cannot admit the truth the public as it would cause a cataclysmic chain reaction. First the people would flee from Tokyo (but it is already too late for many IMO) and this would then cause the Japanese economy to collapse which in turn would destroy the entire global economy. Hence the lies at the expense of Japanese lives.


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      • ocifferdave

        Kintaman the Brave and True,

        “Thankfully my wife is very resilient and back to living happily here in North America”

        You have a good wife, you fortunate man. Don’t be afraid to move again down the road if you feel it is necessary. Bookmark our conversations here into your favorite for future reference if you need to compell your family to move again or to get extended family and friends to move.

        “I am still fearful of the fallout here in as I know the jet stream is carrying it all here.”

        I’ll see you in Puerto Rico soon? :-D I’ll keep you posted on our leap frog travel adventure! Globe hopping to stay one step ahead of Fukushima Fumes.

        “I tell my family to avoid any west coast (Vancouver BC, California) food but they are all tired of hearing it.”

        I have come to think that if they want to stay here then it is best they not think about it. But if they seem concerned, well that is mental momentum that you can push to get them out of harms way.

        “Leaving was and still is a terrible shock and there is an intense feeling of guilt. I have left my friends, coworkers and even extended family there.”

        I’m just beggining to sense this myself as I come to terms with what is needed to be done–MOVE.

        “Unbelievable, truly.”

        The elders of the Orthodox Church this past century have been saying we are living in end times. However, nobody knows when the end will come. But you will know it by its season (ie you can judge it by the condition and state of affairs in the world like a unlikely increase in earthquakes, flooding, overlarge fires, extreme abnormal wind storms, revolutions, numerous wars, and …bad Herman Cain commercials).

        “I often sit and wonder, will I ever see Japan again? What will happen to the people there? What will happen to North America even?”

        I only know a few Nippongo words. In this case BAKA comes mind.

        “Hence the lies at the expense of Japanese lives.”

        That almost sounds like another…


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      • Misitu

        Kintaman, congratulations and best wishes.


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  • richard mancer

    I really wish you Christians would wake up to the fact that a lot of us aren’t interested, and you should learn to respect that the bulk of the Japanese are buddist (well, those that might care about religion, that is)

    Sheesh.


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    • radegan

      Who knew? Every old radium bottle in the US seems to have been rounded up before WWII and shipped to Tokyo where it was used for construction fill. We probably used the atom bomb to cover up any liability for that. GE must’ve made those bottles.


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    • westcoastgirl westcoastgirl

      I am kind of wondering what warranted such a comment…was it ocifferdave’s mention of a church?

      I am not a Christian, either, but for him to say that doesn’t seem so offensive, he’s just expressing what’s important to him.

      I wonder about Central and South America to, ocifferdave..the Mexican drug cartels have overtaken and ruined many countries south of the border. I know someone who moved here to get away from the corruption in Guatemala. It’s sad, I think of places like this as quaint and rustic, when in reality they have become really dangerous to live in.


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      • ocifferdave

        “when in reality they have become really dangerous to live in. ”

        That’s what all my cousin-in-laws in Honduras have been saying since President Zelaya got into power (then got kicked out for massive no-nos).


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      • Misitu

        WCG
        Church comment: I agree with you, but I think it’s a diversion.

        If people need to associate their personal belief systems with attempts to understand a global calamity why should this be a problem? It’s only natural.

        As long as it crosses no lines into evangelism I would have no issues with this.

        Drugs/Corruption/Dangerous: well, there are two issues here, the first being that all that stuff is driven by the insane demand for drugs in the highly broken social world of the rich upper classes in the northern industrial countries, so don’t blame the poor countries for being dragged along in the slipstream – NO, DON’T ! – and the second is, well, it is difficult for an obvious martian to settle in a third world country of a different ancestral composition without attracting notice, sometimes of a non friendly kind.

        .. and, of course, if you have family in one of those countries you can get to understand life a lot better than if you go with a set of mental luggage acquired during a lifetime lived in the middle of unbelievable privilege.

        It’s not THAT bad but you have to be prepared to look through different eyes.


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  • richard mancer

    The buddists enjoy gunja, the buddhists like Buddha and don’t relate the JC


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    • Bobby1

      Buddha taught abstinence from intoxicants. Jesus not only drank wine, he miraculously turned water into wine.


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      • radegan

        Now if Jesus had just taught his followers how to turn a whizz back into beer, we’d only need one six-pack for a lifetime.


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        • Sickputer

          Kinda like reprocessing expended uranium, eh? ;-) . By the time the frackers manage to Fuku every water aquifer in America I think we will all be drinking affluent water, so your urine to beer wish will come true. Ft. Worth is building such a water plant as I type these pixels of light. Not too bad if you just are removing human wastes, but I wonder how much future generations will have to pay for drinking water that has been decontaminated from the witches brew of radiation and other manmade synthetic poisons. Forget drinking public water supplies as it will be bad enough just for washing. I should become a home water purifier salesman.. Great potential for growth.


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      • jimbojamesiv

        So did Dionysus…every year.

        I believe Christians celebrate the water into wine on the same day Dionysus’ feast is celebrated: January 6th, which happens to be the Day of the year when the Sun’s movement away from it’s latest rising is discernible from Earth. I believe it may also coincide with the point when the Earth is closest to the Sun.


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    • Mancer. Who are you? And why are you here if you want to discuss religion. Language barrier? We are discussing the fact significant radiation has been discovered in Metro Tokyo, home of 35 million people and a cornerstone of the global economy. What are the implications? How is the government responding?

      Everyone on this site has come together out of concern for the nuclear crisis in Japan. We are all different people otherwise. I would think that would be self evident. Your acting like a Troll. You want to talk religion? At least have the courtesy to move over to General Discussion. Thanks and God Bless


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    • vivvi

      Here we have the person whining about the mention of Christian religion bringing the buddhist religion into the discussion. All Dave said was that PR had a church there that they would choose to attend. He didn’t preach. Now we get buddhist preaching for no apparent reason? Wonders what the agenda is …..


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  • slinky

    So 170 microsieverts per hour is about two years full dosage of background radiation in one day. Thats really bad! How many hotspots around Tokyo are that hot at this point?


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  • Bobby1

    WOW… Europium-152 detected at this location at Setagaya:

    http://www.asyura2.com/11/genpatu17/msg/886.html (Japanese)
    http://alcyone.seesaa.net/article/232837869.html (Japanese)

    This isotope is generated by neutron bombardment of control rods. That means, if it is detected in anything but the most minute quantities, it is PROOF that a nuclear explosion has occurred.

    Oh, and guess what? Europium is YELLOW:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europium_on_air_oxidized.jpg


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  • Iodine 131 measured from rice

    Oct 30th, 2011
    According to the food measurement result of Citizen’s radioactivity measuring station, not to menation,Cs-134,137 were measured,but Iodine131 was also measured from various rice samples. Since this is a private institution,their measurement result is more honest then government’s. Most of the samples were taken from 10/1~10/20/2011. This may prove Fukushima went back to recriticality state in …
    http://fukushima-diary.com/2011/10/iodine-131-measured-from-rice/


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  • Sickputer

    Bottlegate 4 gets shot down….try again you delusional mystics… I think some of the government mouthpieces actually believe their own insane theories. Reminds me of the story of the murderer who explained how the victim died: “I was just standing on the corner cleaning my nails with my pocketknife when this man ran into my knife…it stabbed him 37 times!”

    See the latest radiation savant Professor Fukushi offer his amazing theory for the supermarket hotspot and how quickly and thoroughly he is debunked:

    http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/10/setagaya-tokyos-170-microsievertshr.html


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