Published: June 8th, 2012 at 5:54 pm ET
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Davis-Besse fixing leak
WKSU
June 8, 2012
Nuclear regulators and plant operators say the leak was in a line to a pump that pushes water through the reactor. The plant had been shut down for re-fueling when it was discovered Wednesday.
FirstEnergy spokeswoman Jennifer Young says the water never got outside the building and posed no threat to the public.
“We were in the process of beginning to restart the plant when the issue was uncovered. I can tell you that it had not been an overly long time that it had been leaking, because we had just started pressurizing the plant within the previous 24 hours. It was definitely not leaking before the plant was pressurized, and it wasn’t leaking in the early stages of pressurization.”
Young estimates the water leaked at a rate of about six gallons per hour, but is unsure of the total.
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Reddit has been tracking reports of elevated radiation levels in Indiana: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/uqlq9/reddit_i_think_there_is_a_giant_nuclear_coverup/
The AP followed-up on the matter: “MineraLab owner Tim Flanegin said the readings appeared to be caused by an equipment malfunction.”
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Published: June 8th, 2012 at 5:54 pm ET
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If they don't KNOW how long, how can they say "“I can tell you that it had not been an overly long time”
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is that an english "overly long time" or an american "overly long time"??
the english one has more zeroes in it i believe
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a day later, still chuckling, arclight. much aloha
OT- for Saturday Night visitors to this thread
tonight SAT 6/9 10pm is the 'Fukushima special' with Gunderson, Blume, Apsley and Dale, on CoasttoCoastam radio. First national radio discussion I've seen during the 14 months, going to 550 stations nationwide, and there usually is a call-in hour for direct questions to the guests. If you can get your call in, and talk to Arnie or the others, you will have 20-some million mostly Fukushima-unaware listeners who may benefit in various ways from your questions and comments, and the following discussion:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/06/09
thanks for the heads up jump-ball.
One More Saturday Night All … Cheers to Fuku & everyone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtn7ZiVZK-c
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Radiation leaking without citizens knowing is the nuclear industry's modus operandi. Where and when it happens. nobody knows.
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hi the bigpicture
we at enenews will know!
Radiation Incident!! 800,000 000 nanosieverts/h in chinon france and gieger for london 7 june 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx3NqwGKZ30
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I don't like games with numbers.
800000000 nSv/h = 0.8 Sv/h
Did you say metric ton or megagramm?
h.
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@ harengus
I don't like games with numbers.
i am qouting the source documents directly
was a bit worried about the conversion to Sv/h (ask bnb)
thanks for that!
wonder on the effects on the local population with that kind of dose wafting about?
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@harengus
thats 800 mcSv/h correct?
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oops !! me no mathematician
its actually 800 000 mcSv/h
bit of a difference
@ harengus
number games??
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conjunctivitis?? its been a bad year in europe for the rads..
http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187853
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if i was playing the numbers game i would have said
hiorror to local french town and wine growing region!! avoid the milk etc close your windows , lock up yer daughters,
800,000,000,000 picosievert nuclear bombardment in small provincial french sleepy town.. and no one noticed!… phew!
you gotta love them rads!!
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oh and
"after a zerohedge post from a gerbil with an ak45 shares plummeted in french wine shares today.."
link blurry on this one
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Have a look:
m Milli lat. millesimus 10E−3 = 0,001
µ Mikro gr. μικρός, mikrós 10E−6 = 0,000.001
n Nano gr. νάνος, nános 10E−9 0,000.000.001
They are just prefixes which can used with every unit.
To "count manually": every 3 zeros it's the next stage.
HTH, h.
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right you are h! ta
so i should have put
08E-8 or 0.000.008 microsievert innundation in france
surely they might miss that though??
seems a bit small in dose terms
im completely confused now!!
thought it was a gizzion mcsieverts and it turns out a 10E – - – size of a microbe sort of thing..
bigger than a matchead perhaps!??
am feeling slightly better even after 150 grams of choclate..
many thanks for clearing that up bro/girl/other
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2012-05-30 10:00 2012-05-30 11:00
4.14E+03 NV
this is the data from the eurdep site but it does not recognise the spikes on the chart after validation..
look good if anyone enquires huh?
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http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story/detail/a_radioactive_nightmare/9886/
A Radioactive Nightmare
As fallout from Fukushima heads our way, the government turns a blind eye
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hi taco
for the record.. from your link.. ta
"..The three meltdowns have spewed trillions of becquerels of highly radioactive iodine-131, cesium-137, strontium-90 and plutonium-239 into the atmosphere and Pacific since March 11, 2011. The initial explosions and fires sent untold amounts of radiation high into the atmosphere.
A Feb. 28 report by the Meteorological Research Institute, just released at a scientific symposium in Tsukuba, Ibaraki Prefecture, Japan, says that 40,000 trillion becquerels, double the amount previously thought, have escaped Unit 1 reactor alone.
This has resulted in fallout around the globe and especially impacting the Pacific and parts of America and Canada, two countries downwind of Japan on the jet stream. British Columbia, the Pacific Northwest, Midwest and Ontario have been hit especially hard by rain, sleet and snow, in some cases with dizzying amounts of high radiation…"
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http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2230/817/7,000_Radiation_Level_Indiana_1:20_AM_6-7-2012_Why.html
7,000+ Radiation Level At 1:20 AM 6-7-2012! Why?
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NRC event Report: Power Reactor Event Number: 48000
Facility: DAVIS BESSE (Name of the Power Plant)
Region: 3 State: OH
Unit: [1] [ ] [ ]
RX Type: [1] B&W-R-LP
Notification Date: 06/07/2012
Notification Time: 02:39 [ET]
Event Date: 06/06/2012
Event Time: 19:56 [EDT]
http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/2012/20120607en.html
These times do seem to coincide with the times of the readings in Indiana. Depends which way the winds were blowing. hmm…?
Location:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis-Besse_Nuclear_Power_Station
My screen shots 6/6/12 at 10:45 pm pacific time:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2099954/Radnet001.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2099954/Rad%20BlackCat001.jpg
How many of these kinds of events over the years have gone unreported to the local public. My guess. Far too many!
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I can tell you, this event hasn't been released to the local public in the neighborhoods around Davis-Besse. My cousin hadn't heard anything about it when I told her a while ago, and she's literally a mile away from the plant.
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Very good question. Perhaps the Ohio leak is a cover story? http://www.infowars.com/nuclear-coverup-explosions-military-helicoptors-fimed-near-blacked-out-radiation-zone/
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Citizen rad monitoring, jet streams and current debris tracking links
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/forum/index.php/board,24.0.html
Fukushima (maybe Ohio/Indiana) fallout forecasts
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/nnn.html
For those overly concerned..some others overdue needing to be told
http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml
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chemfood – make that (maybe Ohio/PA/WV Lake Erie, Canada) forecast.
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OT, but maybe worth listening to is the 'Fukushima special' tomorrow night SAT 6-9 10pm with Gunderson, Blume, Apsley and Dale, on CoasttoCoastam radio. First full radio discussion I've seen during the 14 months:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/06/09
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http://naturalsociety.com/explosions-military-helicopters-filmed-radiation-zone/
Eyewitnesses on the ground near the media-blacked-out elevated radiation zone near the border of Indiana and Michigan, where radiation levels hundreds of times higher than normal were quickly removed from public viewing by the EPA, are now sending in a large number of photos and videos documenting massive explosions accompanied by unmarked helicopters, A-10 Thunderbolts, and military personnel. These reports come after a Department of Homeland Security hazmat fleet was sent out to the location after ‘years’ of inactivity.
Those on the ground report that the explosions are ‘loud and deep’, sounding like fireworks with a kick. The explosions are oftentimes followed up with a squadron of helicopters or other aircraft, oftentimes black and unmarked. One Michigan resident reports the following, and is then backed by dozens of organic comments which confirm the findings:
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Twitter has quieted down about this, but it seems like most of the noise that had me concerned earlier was all echoes of Gucciardi, the Naturalnews guy. There is something at Dutchsinse, but I can't tell if that's independent confirmation. So, I dunno. But the timing is interesting that Davis-Besse reports something right after the correlation of high rad readings from three sources. Here is the screen capture of EPA station just before it was taken offline: http://naturalsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/radiationcount.png
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Thanks for the update Risabee
Potrblog posted their analysis of the likelihood of the radiation spike reported in Indiana being from Fukushima.
They agree with Bobby that it could be Fukushima related based on the location of the jet stream when the spikes occurred. They also said the reading looked authentic.
However, they were skeptical about how high the spike was, feeling that a spike of that size was odd.
http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/2012/06/airborne-300x-radiation-alert-in.html
As for the EPA, I'm utterly confident they censor.
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Yeah. It was in one spot. Radchic was watching it happen and recording it on video. I watched yesterday when it happened. There was an independent site which correlated with the radnet data. I don't think it's Fuku.
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Still no tweets I can find other than pointing to Mr. Natural. We need better data before we can run very far with this. I do feel, after listening to the MP3s of the explosions — sounds like chain guns. A-10s, as photographed? Not a part of the world where they typically practice with those, not even with dummy ammunition. MOST peculiar.
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Lots of distractions after this spike. Yes, the spike was so high that it was odd, but that's how bad these radiation plumes are, and they're getting worse.
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Risabee,
One thing about the EPA's radnet numbers: they are presented in Universal Time, which is basically Greenwich mean time, so I believe you have to subtract 6 hours to get Eastern Standard Time, which would be the time zone for both Indiana and Ohio.
The high numbers listed from 07:58 to 11:59 on June 6 (as in the screen shot) are therefore from the early morning hours of June 6, before the Davis Besse incident– 07:58 (Universal time) minus 6 hrs = 1:58 am Eastern time and 11:59 (Universal time) mins 6 hrs = 5:59 am Eastern time (correct me if my.calculations are wrong).
The event notification posted above says that the Davis-Besse event happened at 19:56 (Eastern time) on June 6. Adding six hours to this to convert to the Universal time (which the EPA uses), you get 25:56, which would be have to be 01:56 on June 7 according to Universal time. The high EPA numbers from the morning of the 6th drop off dramatically later that morning. Later that evening, they do increase after the time that the Davis Besse event happened, but not as dramatically as those early morning readings presented in the screen shot
2012-06-07 01:27:39 13.0000
2012-06-07 02:27:53 17.0000
2012-06-07 03:28:06 27.0000
2012-06-07 04:28:19 47.0000
2012-06-07 05:28:32 52.0000
2012-06-07 06:28:44 53.0000
2012-06-07 07:28:57 54.0000
2012-06-07 08:29:10 61.0000
2012-06-07 09:29:23 78.0000
2012-06-07 10:29:36 79.0000
2012-06-07 11:29:49 76.0000
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POTR blog is probably right that one has to be cautious in taking the EPA numbers at face value, however.
He makes an interesting point that it could have been a very concentrated, highly radioactive, but small in size plume of fallout (from whatever source). To the best of my knowledge, it didn't cover all of South Bend, but I would like to know definitively whether something as "hot" as that did in fact float over parts of the city. I concur with the POTR blog people in wishing that we could have more precise information about the actual location of the monitor(s) that feed the Radiation Network and the Black Cat network. I detected nothing strange that night (a few blocks from ND), but that doesn't mean other parts of the town didn't get hit by something.
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Also, with regard to the possibility that a plume came from Davis-Besse, POTR blog observes that the wind was coming from the north at the time that the high reading started (which he says was about 11:30 pm). THat means it came from the direction of Michigan, not Ohio.
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In the words of Rage Against The Machine
"How long, not long
because what you reap is what you sow!"
I'm really hoping someone can get us more info from this region I understand "rad-chick" from fukushimafacts.com is heading that way
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Arclight…I loved your comment and I was so bummed and fed up…and it just made me laugh. Thank you. Humor is always indicated.
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hi kuai
when your sucking up as much rads as me you learn to either develop humour or a tumour according to the esteamed (no spelling mistake) yamashita prof of psychology and all round nice guy!!
peace
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It's just too coincidental in my opinion.
Normally, when these types of high releases occur they can turn off or manipulate the readings right away. On this evening however, the operator was asleep at the wheel and the numbers kept displaying for several hours. It was reading, not stuck or overly erratic.
We're watching now. So the 'cover' stories have had to become more elaborate, but the 'BS' is repetitive and it remains the same time after time. "We're not sure", "There was no release" or "It's of no concern".
We all know that rad dose equals proximity and duration. So even a reading 7000 cpm for a short period of time would not show up as an illness in the local populace for some time. Then, without proper reporting, no one would ever 'really' know.
At least not until the cancer rates and other illnesses in an ENTIRE country or hemisphere increase so fast that insurance and medical systems are overwhelmed. Then, it might become a bit more obvious, but it might also be too late.
How many incidents go completely unreported to the NRC? How would they know?
How many get reported as Non-Emergency to the NRC, but in fact are much worse? (some probably)
How many incidents that ARE Emergencies have we not been told about or 'properly' informed of? I think their attitude is that's once it's already happened there's nothing they can do about it anyway. So why create a fuss over it.
Alerting people so they could mitigate might…
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…Alerting people so they could mitigate might help, but that would be bad PR and then people might not like Nuclear Power anymore. hmmm…?
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Time to occupy th NRC
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hi chasha
"Normally, when these types of high releases occur they can turn off or manipulate the readings right away. On this evening however, the operator was asleep at the wheel and the numbers kept displaying for several hours. It was reading, not stuck or overly erratic."
i agree and the proof is hours after my video as i was trying to run through the isotopes eurdep was completely taken down.. there are however the good guys within the organisation.. they are the ones that put it on last week at full working capacity..
after the russian spike the russian federation iaea crowd pulled there monitors from eurdep.. then as i was looking at the isotopes later they froze it with the message about "server tracing" ??
the links i put on the rad forum are still working though
our job is to support the good monintor staff! and find out whose the bad lot doing the manipulation??
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ChasAha,
That very large detection in Indiana a couple days ago. They said it was a false alarm. Except there are four different sources indicating something major had happen. Two different Geiger Counter networks detected very large radiation levels at the same time. There was a local radar signal being excited by something in the atmosphere. I saw that myself on the local radar site at the time. Also, lots of people reported they heard explosions in the area. Some also reported a Hazmat team, and helicopters in the area.
http://naturalsociety.com/nuclear-cover-up-radiation-levels-epa-geiger-counter-dhs-hazmat-team/
http://naturalsociety.com/
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hi vital1. good to cross paths.
i had a look at the 'photos'. it would be easy for them to be from another place and time. in addition, i saw three choppers that almost look identical – i'm wondering about photoshop.
sound effects are easy to generate, so that means nothing as well.
in my opinion (which has limited info available) i'd agree with the false alarm.
if i have time later i'll demonstrate where i suspect the photos.
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Richard,
That still doesn't explain the radar signal showing a large amount atmospheric excitation at the same time of the detections in the local area. If I can find a screen shot of it I will post it.
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I actually saw this radar signal detection of the atmospheric excitation in real time over the internet. This is another persons screen shot.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vvTAnnjhwvc/T9DlSxA1-eI/AAAAAAAABoY/DU6ak_VM1Sk/s640/Indiana%2BRadar%2B-%2BRadiation.jpg
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OMG! You saw that in real time. What a screen shot.
Any ideas here? Generally speaking , that is the same spot that the Rad Network readings were from.
What's at the exact CENTER of those RED DOTS?
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ChasAha,
Yes, that is what I mean. This also was showing on the local radar at the time of the detections.
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Kosciusko County
http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=735
click on "Launch the County Web Player" to launch the audio…
Thanks Pu239, for that site!
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What is an 'atmospheric excitation' map anyway?
I tried to look it up.
What's the link to where you were looking?
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ChasAha,
There must have been something in the atmosphere to cause this radar signal.
From the radar screen shot it seems to be confined to the local area.
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Is this what Arnie Gunderson calls "sky shine"
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It is amazing vital1.
Maybe submit the screen shot to admin via tips.
Screen Shot…
Atmospheric Radar Above Northern Indiana:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vvTAnnjhwvc/T9DlSxA1-eI/AAAAAAAABoY/DU6ak_VM1Sk/s640/Indiana%2BRadar%2B-%2BRadiation.jpg
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I've overlaid the radar map to google earth.. just taking a look..
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg499/fukushima3dmap/dosimeter/indianaradar.jpg
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Very cool.
Anybody else notice the two small bright red spots on the right in Ohio. (?)
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That radiation looks 200 hundred or more miles across…how could it just disappear…unless it had a very short half life….
I thought your blood dna started changing at like 1000 cpm and death was certain in a short time at 10,000. I'm not sure I just tried to look it up…
These are dangerous levels they are lethal levels..dangerous is 100-500
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@moons – i also wonder about the almost perfect circle, over such a large distance.
i'm not saying it's anything particular, but rarely do such perfect shapes appear in nature, over such such a large distance and a short lived time. in my opinion.
it creates other questions
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I was way off with my numbers..One can exist nearly 200 days with 10,000 cpm before dying…it's still horrible and dangerous numbers..I wish we knew more…I wish we could at least know to warn people to stay indoors.
If nuclear energy works so well why does it have to be so top secret???
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@ChasAha – yes, I noted them when I first started editing. it's good to see they tranlated thru, as I wasn't even watching for them during the remix.
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slight update.. added the noted high levels recorded.
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg499/fukushima3dmap/dosimeter/indianaradarlevel.jpg
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Thanks again richard.
That Photo Overlay says a lot.
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Ions gyrating in crossed electric and magnetic fields… (?)
Abstract:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0021916971901103
Something (?)
An Unidentified Radiation Detection with circular shaped Atmospheric Radar Anomaly in the same place.
hmmm..? What are the odds of that?
see this excellent overlay by richard: O.O
http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg499/fukushima3dmap/dosimeter/indianaradarlevel.jpg
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Does anyone have any idea what facilities are in the area of this radar signal that could produce a very high radiation release, or a very large electromagnetic pulse on failure?
That may give use a clue.
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this very detailed list of large nuclear facilities in the United States doesn't have anything described for Indiana, which appears to be the epicentre.
http://www.animatedsoftware.com/environm/no_nukes/nukelist1.htm#OH
it's a great list, nonetheless.
(note to self, gotta stop using the word 'great' when talking about nukes)
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Richard,
It may not be a nuclear power plant that we are looking for, but a university, medical, research, or defense facility.
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Here is a good source for discovery of installations…
http://www.energyjustice.net/map/nuclearoperating
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agreed. i took a look with google earth. the big epicentre is around an area of recreational lakes.
the two smaller spots are near some golf courses
i'm not from the areas, that's my only take.
healthy scepticism is what i'm sticking to. i'm not sure yet that the event is some kind of hoax.
a radar blast that covers two hundred miles would have been a bit more noticable, imho. sure, we can't see radiation. But this kind of EMP would really send many sensors, of all types, of the charts.
the general community would surely create more chatter, i tend to think. just not sure really. right now, i still edging toward 'hoax'.
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Awesome resource–thanks!
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yeah Iam335, it is an awesome resource, a lot of work and info in there. big thumbs up for that author.
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I don't know anything about Kosciusko County, but with regard to South Bend, I've been trying to figure that out. Notre Dame has a Radiation Laboratory (right next to the "Touch-down Jesus" library!), but to the best of my knowledge they do NOT have a nuclear reactor on campus. Although there is a power plant on ND's campus, it is a coal-fired plant. In addition, there are at least two major hospitals in the area, Memorial in South Bend (which is very close to where I live–but I didn't detect any elevated readings that night in my apartment) and another hospital whose name I forget in nearby Mishawaka.
To the best of my knowledge, there are no nuclear power plants in Indiana, but there are six of them in Illinois and a few in Michigan. In Michigan there is one called DC Cook a little over 20 miles away and one called Palisades a little over 40 miles away (both almost directly north of South Bend). Davis-Besse in Ohio is much farther away to the east, but it is on almost the same latitude line as South Bend. Slightly to the north of that there is also Fermi 2 in Michigan.
If anyone knows of any other nuclear related sites/facilities in northern Indiana/southern Michigan, I would be very interested in hearing about them.
http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/nuclear_power_plants_locations/
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Remember this resource anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUF3PBKnXUo&feature=related
http://rezn8d.com/2D/
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I was thinking maybe this was something entirely new. Perhaps, not really seen before or reported before.
In simple terms:
Due to multiple kinds of 'goo' mixing in the atmospheres. Maybe sometimes it plops down like a random ionized poop splatter.
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ChasAha
A friend's explanation of the unusual radar signal showing up during a large release of ionizing radiation.
"Ionizing radiation events cause radio waves to be reflected or bent due to near field ionisation events affecting what is known as the 'plasma frequency'"
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More reports of high radiation detections in the area, this time local fire department.
"I called the Traverse City Fire Dept and asked them if they noticed anything unusual, muttered that I was with the "nuclear reddit board". They confirmed they had unusually high readings, and that they reported them to the NRC earlier today."
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/uqlq9/reddit_i_think_there_is_a_gi
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Um, Indiana University has Midwest Proton Radiotherapy Institute, or now renamed Indiana University Health Proton Therapy Center just south of the incident location…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwest_Proton_Radiotherapy_Institute
which I don't think can "release" isotopes, it's a beam generator
but there is this facility in Champaign IL
http://www.obires.com/
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There is a woman on the radchick ustream page that says there is a military base that stores unused weapons/missiles in underground bunkers in the area of the booms and radiation. She believes that they must have started "cooking off" and that is what released the radiation and made the booms. She said once one is set off, they all will go off eventually over a period of a few days. You can see some of her comments but most of the conversation is not available anymore.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/RadChick-Radiation-Research-Mitigation/260610960640885?sk=app_196506863720166
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Hmm….none of the water got out of the building….no danger to the public….
We don't know how much leaked….but none of it got out of the building, right? WHY NOT JUST MEASURE HOW DEEP IT IS IN THE BUILDING?!
More lies….OBVIOUS lies.
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If you type "high rad readings" in your search engine you will come up with a list of examples where the Rad network showed high readings…but the reason is always the same…mechanical malfunction.
I'd like to predict the future here…the next high levels from rad net will be because of a mechanical error.
I wonder how often these collection center get false readings??? I'm sure they have some data on that….well we never hear about false low readings…the machines don't malfunction and just show zeros…
We need to get a newtwork of indivduals together (like in germany) who have geigers (Geigers across America) and post our own readings…let's get serious!
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re: "we never hear about false low readings"
Actually, the EPA's radnet database for several cities never shows anything but zeros (e.g., Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia, to name just a few). It's pretty pathetic that Fuku happened over a YEAR ago and they STILL have not bothered to get their monitors working in so many major cities.
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Good point!
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re: "We need to get a newtwork of indivduals together (like in germany) who have geigers (Geigers across America) and post our own readings"
But I thought that is what the Radiation Network actually was? So if we can't trust in the reliability/integrity of that network, how will another similar network be any different?
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Just a thought: the Radiation network explanation of the South Bend detection notes, after announcing that it was a malfunction:
"… a handful of stations on the Radiation Network feed simultaneously to the Black Cat Systems network, which explains why a high reading was showing on their network at the same time…"
It seems to me that separate networks should NOT draw their readings from the same sources. If Black Cat and Radiation Network ALWAYS each drew all of their readings from distinct sources, they would be much more useful, since then a high reading on one site could be checked against the readings on another site to judge its validity. OR, alternatively, the managers of these sites should give each data source a particular label/marker, which would be the same on every radiation map/site to which that source supplies data. That way, if two radiation maps seemed to show high readings, viewers could at least know definitively whether those two maps were being fed data from the same source, or whether there were two separate monitors detecting similarly anomalous readings.
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OT, and please excuse the repeat, but maybe worth listening to tonight SAT 6/9 10pm is the 'Fukushima special' with Gunderson, Blume, Apsley and Dale, on CoasttoCoastam radio. First national radio discussion I've seen during the 14 months, going to 550 stations nationwide, and there usually is a call-in hour for direct questions to the guests. If you can get your call in, and talk to Arnie or the others, you will have 20-some million mostly Fukushima-unaware listeners who may benefit in various ways from your questions and comments, and the following discussion:
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/06/09
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