Discussion Thread for August 1 – 7, 2011

Published: August 1st, 2011 at 8:56 am ET


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530 comments to Discussion Thread for August 1 – 7, 2011

  • selfsovereign

    Thankyou to everyone who sent Germany emails to keep up the radiation forcasts. They got more than 10,000 responses.

  • Flapdoodle Flapdoodle

    Here is my thought. First, put together a remote control front end loader or similar piece of heavy equipment fitted with an infrared detector to gather chunks of fuel rods blown out of the pools and drop them into bins… Anything warmer than a raccoon. While it is doing that, a GPS and radiation detector could be mapping the radiation levels around the plant. Surely a country that is so hot on robotics could do that.

    Other remote control heavy equipment to start dismantling the ruble that was the buildings with the goal of eventually getting to the molten core puddle. Ruble would hinder ANY effort to contain the radiation emitted, and surely isn’t doing any good in the condition it is in now.

    Only when the location and condition of the molten fuel puddle(s) is determined can any sort of plan to contain or relocate it be formulated.

    • CB CB

      @Flapdoodle, What about the rest of Japan? Cananda, USA, and North Hemisphere? Are you just joining us?

    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com


      Study what happened to remote control machinery at Chernobyl by watching the documentaries, especially the ones by scientists or about scientists coordinating what containment efforts ever came to pass there, to see what happened there. I agree that some sort of remote machinery (as in remote processors, remote engines) be designed and created immediately. The Japanese and their overlords, the U.S. nuclear, military, covert and industrial masters are not handling this properly. However, one problem you’ll see from the Chernobyl event that engines, robotics, some mechanical systems and humans all stop working when they get too close to too radioactive a piece of debris or corium. That destructive power is not heat energy, but radiation itself. The level of shielding required to protect electronics, engines, people is prohibitive for operational efficiency. However, I think that some sort of very large superstructure could be built with remote grappling with all electronics at a distance. Then the grappling (made more efficient for the present conditions by asking the engineers of the world, immediately, to develop something like this) ends of the superstructure could be replaced themselves periodically, as high-level nuclear waste, when the high radiation levels of what is being moved or dismantled begins to warp and sieze the metal, ceramic (?) or other parts of the machinery too close to the extreme high-level radiation sources with which are being dealt.

      • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

        Immediate worldwide focus on producing mass metal dry-cask inert gas/neutron inhibiting storage units for all current UNcontained high-level nuclear waste must become a worldwide priority. The highest priority sites are those emitting the most radiation that raise background and particulate “fuel flea” sorts of radiation. These include but are not limited to the tonnage of high-level waste found at Fukushima, Nevada test sites, Sellafield UK, TMI, Los Alamos, St. Louis MO, Santa Susana CA, Berkeley Livermore Labs CA, Hanford WA, and all ageing nuclear stations where old or recent accidents are covered up. In addition, all MOX (mixed-oxide) production and waste must be dismantled, and all current spent fuel pool (SPF) rods and assemblies must also be put in dry cask storage. All nuclear weapons, particularly the PLUTONIUM (Pu) triggers must immediately be carefully isolated and put into dry cask storage. There are many other locations that others in here are aware of and I am not yet aware of. But cleaning up this mess NOW is top priority. Once again, the reality demands that we think about the community and about the future and about not just human justice but also about our stewardship role to protect all biological forms of life. Materialism cannot be included in the mix and a money making inclusion of exploitative systems will NOT solve this problem. Chop from the top people. This is going to be solved by the community and not by the status quo, which has to go.

      • mikey

        Sure Doodle u can try that tho it sounds tray expensivo. Why not use the time onored trad of digging holes out at 45degrees tunnel down to directly underneath the reactors then dig st8t down to hell blow the ground gently under them and let them fall in the hole and bury the bastards!?

      • I posted an article here a few weeks ago where Japanese had discovered crushed TV and monitor tubes stopped like 98% of radiation, could it be used beside heavy thick lead ??

        • I suppose it worked with the lead in them and reflectivity deflecting endlessly in the crushed fields areas of !

        • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com


          I wonder how TV and monitor (not LED screens, obviously?) would have this shielding effect. Very interesting stuff. Please give us a link if you have it handy and have a moment. Thank you very much.

          • Give me a while, I will go back through the stories here, I though it was too enough to post !

          • @ Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

            Wheeew ! I found it here : http://enenews.com/insider-in-charge-of-monitoring-radiation-at-tmi-says-meltdown-


            Here you go:

            July 26, 2011 at 11:13 pm Log in to Reply
            Researchers confirm ground-up TV cathode-ray tubes block 99 percent of radiation

            Japan’s National Institute for Materials Science (NIMS) has confirmed that crushed cathode ray tubes (CRTs) can

            block 99 percent of radiation emissions.

            With the boom in new TV buying that has accompanied the switch to terrestrial digital broadcasting an equivalent

            rush to throw away old CRT-based TVs is also expected. As such, NIMS believes there should be an ample supply of

            CRTs to grind up for anti-radiation applications in the area around the crisis-stricken Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear

            Power Plant.

            According to the institute, some 25 percent of the weight of a TV CRT is lead, …
            Wasn’t LQQKing the whole time, we had a very bad T_Storm here and it dunped a tonn of rain. I unplugged evrything

            fpr over an hour !

          • @ Pallas89juno@yahoo.com
            http://mainichi.jp/select/wadai/archive/news/2011/07/26/20110726ddm012040190000c.html the original Japanese story translation
            (Mainichi Japan) July 27, 2011

            Cathode-ray tube: radiation 1/100 to a shielded–thing Member Gakken

            Materials science is the Institute for materials science, Tsukuba, Ibaraki Tuesday, crushing of the cathode ray tube television materials scraps that radiation up to 1/100 shield (shielded) can be confirmed and announced. Reusing waste CRT expected mass waste due to the transition to digital terrestrial television broadcasting, Fukushima No. 1, Tokyo electric power and shielding measures in the nuclear power plant accident scene around to help.

            Have effect according to the same mechanism in glass of cathode ray tubes lead weight compared with about 25% includes, transparency to gamma rays.

            Results have experimented with cobalt rays glass crushing capacity breadcrumbs to 55 centimeters in thickness, and radiation shielding can be up to approximately 1/100, equivalent to 9 centimeters in thickness plates “. Crushing it and leave crumbs and crushed glass powder for mix by 40 centimeters in thickness have the same effect.

            Mechanism elemental strategy materials Center kohmei Harada (こうめい) and the group leader “glass breakage easier to carry litters are better. Crushed by debris contaminated sand stuffed with breadcrumbs over shielding measures can be used “and talking. [安味 Shinichi]
            Mainichi Shimbun 2011 Tokyo morning of July 26,.

    • mikey

      flapD- the crack about the coon- priceless…thanks but Im thinkin there is a DAM good reason that they havent picked up even the smallest pieces and thats cuz they tried it a while back and ended up mapping the No-go zones by marking the position of the fallen tepco workers. Figure the pix here is so sick and bleak they decided on the wiser option of let mother nature handle it. No machines even nuke proof superjap robocop type M-models will work in 10 plus sievert range of radiation….

      • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

        mikey correct (about all machines failing at 10Sv/hr or higher radiation levels unless controlled with remote engines and remote electronic controls.).

        On another related point, someone asked me a while back about the reactor core (or above the reactor core) measurements in Sieverts and how these were cycling higher and higher. I thought and still am not 100% sure that these record levels were in the 400mSv/hr. range; but maybe that was 400Sv./hr. I have to look into it. Please set me straight if anyone has the link to that data, which I’ve missplaced. Levels of radioactivity in the >50Sv./hr. are very possible coming from any corium, dry spent fuel pools, and maybe–guessing here–from radioactive debris “incinerators” (argh 🙁 ) This is the level which even momentary contact causes pretty much all human neurology to fail instantly, with instant coma and death within minutes or hours. Several unlucky ones have survived for several days from these levels. We aren’t any longer being told, at least not lately, about these much higher and much more probably highest readings from many locations around the Fukushima Dai ichi site. We have to be right on top of all minimization of information efforts to the best of our abilities.

  • Jebus Jebus

    @Admin, What happened tonight?

    ENENEWS went down as I was posting about something strange that happened as I was reading posts.

    Here is my original post that didn’t go through in the following thread.



    OK kids, This is about as wierd as it gets…
    I loaded ENENEWS to read the posts tonight.
    I loaded this page and was scrolling down reading all the posts in the following thresd.


    I was not logged in yet..
    The page had already loaded completly, in firefox, red x was gone.

    All of a sudden the page refreshed by itself.

    I quickly looked at my logs and saw this:

    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: forwarded http://www.nucleartourist.com to x.x.x.x
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply earthquake.usgs.gov is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply earthquake.usgs.gov is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply earthquake.usgs.gov is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply earthquake.usgs.gov.c.footprint.net is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply earthquake.usgs.gov.c.footprint.net is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply earthquake.usgs.gov.c.footprint.net is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: query cdxnode64.epa.gov from x.x.x.x
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: forwarded cdxnode64.epa.gov to x.x.x.x
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply http://www.nucleartourist.com is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: query http://www.technologyreview.com from x.x.x.x
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: forwarded http://www.technologyreview.com to x.x.x.x
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply http://www.technologyreview.com is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: query http://www.vatican.va from x.x.x.x A request from current page
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: forwarded http://www.vatican.va to x.x.x.x
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply flic.kr is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply http://www.vatican.va is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply http://www.vatican.va is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply http://www.vatican.va is
    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply http://www.vatican.va is
    Aug 1 15:32:02 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply cdxnode64.epa.gov is

    The x.x.x.x is where I masked out my info…

    This is the wierd part:

    Aug 1 15:32:01 – dnsmasq[4441]: reply http://www.vatican.va is

    I did not request this page and I only have the main enenews page and this page open.
    I refreshed the main page, nothing..no sign of that URL
    I refreshed this page and nothing…no sign of that URL

    I do not see any posts on this page that reference this URL…www.vatican.va

    A search of vatican on the page source came up not found.

    I think that I caught something telling in my logs!

    Can anyone explain????

    I quickly logged in to post the above info…

    This would not post when I tried to submit comment, it timed out…multiple times.

    I quickly hit the back button and kept track of all this in notepad, so as not to lose it…

    Reset modem trying for a new lease/different ip address…

    Waited 10 minutes to reset…
    Now enenews is unreachable!

    WTF, we are screwed!

    Now main enenews page is up after 20 min and all posts are gone!

    Looks like Admin is rebuilding, still no user posts @ 11:00 my time.

    Does anyone have an explanation for that URL???

    • Jebus Jebus

      First of all, I have to give the biggest kudos I can give to the Administrator of ENENEWS. He keeps on battling back every time. I don’t know what the outages are, but I don’t think they are simple HD failures or anything like that. This site is in the crosshairs of whatever, whoever is trying to “pull the wool” over the sheeples eyes. THANK-YOU ADMIN…
      There should be an award for the most diligent site administrator, and history will remember you…

      I consider myself fairly savy at understanding bits and bytes, and having been around since the beginning of the digital revolution. I would not want to be in his shoes…
      So seeing that URL, investigating the source and going to that URL, kinda freaked me out for a moment. This site was down. Has it really gotten that bad? Are those conspiracy theories really true?
      I was very disheartened for a while. Then my post went to moderation, crap. Was the battle over?
      No, Our Admin brought it back. He obviously is taking great care with some of the most important aggregated data in modern history IMHO.
      Others need to search the source of the above page, so that one report (mine) is not out of context.
      Does anyone else see that URL in that page source?
      Does the “holy see” have an interest in this site for info?
      If so, then WE are winning in our efforts to wake the masses.
      Again THANK-YOU ADMIN…

      I’ve said it before, there is something inside the hearts of all us ENENEWSERS that is strong and good. It can not be stopped.
      Something is telling us to carry on.
      Something is telling us that, WE are the ONE we have been waiting for.

      Everyone, take care, you are all very special humans…

      I’m off to donate now…

    • westcoastgirl westcoastgirl

      I had a similar experience the other night,just not being able to post a comment. Not only could I not post, but there were abosolutely no comments on any of the articles, which I thought was very strange. This was what I wanted to comment on, why it seemed like all the comments had been cleared.

      But when I posted, it wouldn’t go through, several times. I finally gave up, hoping that this was just a minor breakdown…becauseI realized that without the comments and commentors, this website is really nothing.

      And I’ve gotten attached to checking the articles, and reading the comments every day. There are other sites like this, but this is the one I follow regularly.

      As for your experience, Jebus, hopefully it was just some anomaly, and not the Vatican tracking all of your posts!! 😉

    • arclight arclight

      really was trying not to respond to this but


      @ jebus WPP also means web portrait portal, I believe it is the type of design of website?
      a quick search of vatican/wpp allerted me that the vatican website is a wpp type website! lol
      http://www.vatican.va little message from the big guns maybe?? and i mean wpp corp by big guns! lol its a nice little coincidence there! thats public school boys for you… too much times crosswording meethinks… lol

      • arclight arclight

        did i mention that wpp has an oncology division… private cancer treatment! just saying! cant tell you the name because of national security! lol!

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        And if the Vatican is watching…if Sarge is watching.. do not shield your eyes from the truth..
        Come to know mercy as the true word of God.

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          …and you KNOW they are watching…

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          Oh.. heck ya..that goes for all the so-called religious leaders ..that fail us..the military… that fails us…scientists…government officials…
          Put the mirror up to your own reflection.
          See your own evil.

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            All of these creatures should be on their knees quaking in terror… as is their preference for others.
            Quake in fear in Man’s stupidity…fate..or as some call it… the Hand of God.

          • Jebus Jebus

            I went to this site, exploring the possibilities that the “holy see” is looking at ENENEWS.
            This picture on this page just scares the shit outa me!


            Cults, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and says give me your money, it’s a duck…

            I’m happy that I believe in God and even happier that I don’t believe in religion…

        • >Come to know mercy as the true word of God

          I am humbled by the truth and beauty in this

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            @ risabee..Thank you so for kind comment..it comes on a day that I seem to have had to explain my every word.
            Then… you must surely understand words ..unspoken.

        • alexa

          Vatican, if watching, must be in connection with the end of the the world, the upcoming apocalypse. Probably trying to figure out if Fukushima is the future cause of the 1/3 of people dying (as per Bible).

          If they are watching, they should be acting and condemn the Japanese. The Pope was fast to react when the Norway terrorist attack happened…not so fast on Fukushima.

          Time to get involved Vatican and condemn the corrupt Japanese govt who only cares about money, not about kids’ and Japanese’ people health. Time to request that japan monitors radiation in food and water.

    • enenews is unreachable!

      been happening to me to a number of times in recent days, I thought it was sun activity for sure…But then happened at night also ?… just keeps searching for enenews then can not be found…Same with http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/ at the same time that is owned by same, other times can get one but not the other !
      But not seen any ALIEN activity as you there, bots may be at work in underlying activity and giving you partial inf. of pages !

      • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

        Dear Xdrdfx:

        I suspect that this site is somewhat infiltrated. I don’t believe that it’s just going down at times because of updates or maintenance. I’m not accusing administrators of anything because I simply fail to have the information required to confirm any suspicions of this nature. However, I think that targeting those producing the most content (either in terms of citations, links or logical analysis of all the prior, plus analysis within conversation about the topic) is also likely going on. I’ve had access to the web what I call “pinched off” completely on a number of occasions since the 3/11 earthquake. This might be a general limiting of access for those from certain regions, web wide, or individual, who knows.

  • Jebus Jebus

    And now my post is in moderation!

    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication


      Something similar happened to me yesterday, but not at 3:57 a.m. It was earlier in the evening. The page had loaded, I was reading and suddenly something weird happened and finally I could not access the site. It took quite awhile to come back on. I use Firefox as well. That’s the strangest thing I’ve ever heard about the Vatican. Maybe the Pope did it since he is learning to use Twitter??? :>) (Being facetious).

    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication


      Something similar happened to me yesterday, but not at 3:57 a.m. It was earlier in the evening. The page had loaded, I was reading and suddenly something weird happened and finally I could not access the site. It took quite awhile to come back on. I use Firefox as well. That’s the strangest thing I’ve ever heard about the Vatican. Maybe the Pope did it since he is learning to use Twitter??? :>) (Being facetious).

    • admin

      If more than 10 links comment goes into moderation it looks like spam

      • Jebus Jebus

        LOL, I’ve be put on notice…
        I’m sure that I speak for the crew when I say,
        You are saving good peoples lives. Thank-You

  • Steven Steven

    It’s been awhile (as far as I remember) since anyone gave the Admin a pat on the back for his efforts.

    (virtual pat on back Admin)

    Four months in and I think everyone would agree that the sanity check afforded by this site is invaluable, not to mention the value of the articles and the insights and links provided by our fellow travellers. None of this possible without Admin’s efforts.

    • selfsovereign

      MASSIVE standing ovation as the crowd goes wild with applause!

    • farawayfan farawayfan

      This is the first place I found with real information when the MSM went into blackout shortly after the disaster…

      Kudos ENENEWS. It won’t help the 100,000,000 or so in Japan, but some of us might actually know enough to protect ourselves…for however long we can.

    • charlie3

      I’ve expressed my gratitude several times, let me do so again. Thank you, admin.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        One of the nicest things about this site is that it is all referenced on google. I forget the word for that. Anyway, if I remember a comment in the past I can google and find it.

        We would be lost without enenews.com!!!!!

  • bfly

    I agree !!! we all can show our appreiciation, by hitting the donate button.

  • Auntie Nuke

    I read a post in the last two weeks (I thought it was here but haven’t been able to find it) that went through the lecture given to Fukushima survivors about how they were perfectly OK, all they needed to do was wash their veggies and wear long-sleeved shirts. According to the poster, the lecture was promoted by the government, replayed on loudspeakers, on the radio, and was available virtually 24/7, so people were really brainwashed. I know it was someone posting comment, not an “official” article. Could you provide a link? A hint? Do you know of what I’m speaking? If you do, post here and, if you would be so kind, post it to Nuclear Hotseat on Facebook. It will become part of the podcast. Thanks!

  • Auntie Nuke

    Forgot to mention: the lecture was made by two scientists, which gave it added weight. People believed them. Their talk amounts to genocide against their own people.

    • Jebus Jebus

      Was it the infamous “Happy Thoughts” lecture by the honorable DR Yamashita?

    • Jebus Jebus

      the murderous nature of positive thinking



      In a nutshell – what’s happening isn’t good. It’s now an admitted melt-through. It’s leaking way more radiation than Chernobyl did. Just a couple days ago there was another huge radioactive steam plume released. Strontium 90 (an isotope that concentrates in bone) was found as far as 65 kilometers away from the failed nukes. Greenpeace has recommended that a much wider evacuation radius be observed – especially for children and for pregnant women. The “Doctor” who is the head of the Fukushima health study had this to say about the dangers present around the failed plant (via enenews.com):

      “Dr. Shunichi Yamashita, who’s at the Atomic Bomb Research Institute. He’s the radiological health safety risk management adviser for the prefecture. He’s widely shown on national TV. He speaks widely in the prefecture, always saying there’s absolutely no concern with the levels of radiation in Fukushima. He says that mothers, even mothers exposed to 100 millisieverts, pregnant mothers, will not have any effect, health effect. Remember the number 100. Compared to that, the Soviet Union required a mandatory evacuation during Chernobyl at five millisieverts. This doctor is quoted as saying, “The effects of radiation do not come to people that are happy and laughing. They come to people that are weak-spirited, that brood and fret.” This is a direct quote. And he’s heading the study.”

      Like the Catholic Church hierarchy who say condoms actually spread AIDS/HIV – Yamashita-san has blood on his hands. His mendacious “happy talk” rendering of risk, if followed by people, will kill them. The mind boggles. Imagine telling women that essentially it’s their own fault if they get cancer from their daily radiation shower. “If you’d only been happier – you wouldn’t be in this pickle.”


      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        With regard to article:
        Japan gov’t: Agency funding project to monitor online info about Fukushima crisis — Around the clock monitoring of “blogs on nuclear power” and “Twitter accounts”
        I think some on this payroll have been bloggers on this website for some time. (Too many coincidences). And also may be hacking some of our computers.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          If someone in the future starts criticizing me as the person who wants to blame Israel for the reactor #3 explosion (even though Japan has many reactors in trouble), this may be a blogger for the Japanese government. I learned a lot about the brain washing of American prisoners during the Korean War. The persona a person takes on is calculated to be someone entirely different than the real personality providing disinformation.

          Of course, the Vatican is supposed to be part of the nuclear industry and illuminati NWO.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

            I was looking for something and found this comment. I am against the Jim Stone article that blames Israel for the Fukushima disaster or the explosion of reactor #3. I’m not sure this comment makes that clear.

            I am leaning towards the explanation of methane clutter as the most plausible:


            Certainly, the use of nuclear energy is responsible for this disaster. The nuclear industry is responsible and we will have no peace until all nuclear uses are banned forever.

            I don’t agree with everything in the following article, but I think “Transhumanizing experiments” are all wrong, and I am against my tax dollars supporting this experimentation.

        • Jebus Jebus

          Anne, Yes, Understood, I assure you that I am reading everything, but they can not stop those who never give in and never give up. I am sure we are all being monitored, logged, noticed. I can assure you that I have the ability to know if I get hit and will be most vocal about it. It would not be in their best interests to start taking down individual boxes. There are too many of us now, the words are out in the open. Time may not be on the good people of Japan’s side, but it is, on ours.

    • charlie3

      “their own people” are not us, nor the Japanese people, but rather those who sign their paychecks.

  • farawayfan farawayfan

    Just one last thought tonight:

    I personally watched a broadcast report on a rise in newborn death rates in the Philly area. Shocked, I went online and the story headlined the local Fox news service. Thrilled, I submitted to ENENEWS.

    The article came to ENENEWS. I woke up the next morning, and the article, the video link and everything related to it was gone. Not retracted, not disclaimed. Just gone. I know how journalism is supposed to work. Even if an article is COMPLETELY DISCREDITED

  • farawayfan farawayfan

    Just one last thought tonight:

    I personally watched a broadcast report on a rise in newborn death rates in the Philly area. Shocked, I went online and the story headlined the local Fox news service. Thrilled, I submitted to ENENEWS.

    The article came to ENENEWS. I woke up the next morning, and the article, the video link and everything related to it was gone. Not retracted, not disclaimed. Just gone. I know how journalism is supposed to work. Even if an article is COMPLETELY DISCREDITED you don’t simply “vanish” it, you admit and retract…but this was obvious censorship, plain and simple. The only source left for the article was this site.

    God help us every one.

    Fuku just might kill us all….even if it doesn’t, it is the greatest disaster of all time.

    God help us every one.

  • Sickputer

    Interesting radiation results from Japanese government:


    Install Chrome from Google for nice on the fly translation to English.

    What is so suspect about the validity of these radiation values in all the prefectures is that there is no standard height for monitoring devices. I know that has been reported before, but we have a nice look at the governement subterfuge here. Look at page 2 (the second matrix of values).

    Also reference the map of Japan so you can see which prefectures are close to Fukushima.


    Notice at the bottom legend MEXT’s gutless excuses for measuring from different heights and different cities:

    [In Fukushima Prefecture, the monitoring post in Futaba-gun is located at a restricted area, since it is difficult to measure, figures were measured in Momijiyama (Fukushima City) as an alternative.
    “””The values at 1m from the ground were not measured because of taking measure to the earthquake disaster.”””]

    Wow…didn’t know the earthquake created radiation also!

    Their excuse for why the capital city Sendai in Myagi Prefecture was measured from 80 METERS HIGH?

    “[Moreover, the value of the fixed mount type monitoring post set up in Sendai City is described about the range of the value ordinary of the past.”

    Huh? I think more likely because Sendai has over 1 million people! And they are getting toasted with radiation!

    Tokyo gets measured 18 meters above the ground! Who believes this horseshit! If I lived in Tokyo I would be packing my bags and catching the next bullet train to Nagasaki, then a boat to Okinawa or even better to Chile! Get out while you have a chance to survive. You are going to get sick if you stay much longer. The trains and planes will soon be packed and it will be harder to leave the country. Hell, for all I know a policy may already be in place to deny you to leave Japan unless you are a millionaire or a politician.

    Anyway…here’s the MEXT resource page I found that had the information and it has other stuff I haven’t looked at. See what you find:



  • StillJill StillJill

    Good find sickputter!

    I think there ARE more Japanese packing up,…since the Professor went ALL FUKU,…and then, BOOM,..some closer-to-real numbers come out! I think the Professor was the catalyst!

    I sense more about to move–Pull that RIPCORD friends! Come try to survive with us,…we’ll help NO MATTER WHAT! I promise!

    Come on Japan!
    Show us your hot sauce (Fire in your belly)!

  • Bobby1

    Here is a picture of a rooftop radiation monitor:


    The radiation is on the GROUND, where children are playing, not up there.

  • StillJill StillJill

    Yes,…I predict that FOX news will start covering this–simply for ratings! The Murdoch deal-e-o-lopped them off at the knees! (They were headed that way anyway).

  • StillJill StillJill

    Jebus,….How can you be so sure ADMIN isn’t a Sheila? 🙂

    Just sayin’—seems that way to me anyway!

  • StillJill StillJill

    Well,…I’m still in love with her/him too,….I’m just sayin’! 🙂

    • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

      I just don’t care him/her. When it comes to the truth I guess I’m just a flaming bi-factual!
      Thanks again enenews.

  • arclight arclight

    love you admin
    Hi guys im back! The post below should explain all!
    Monday 1st august I awoke early and did a bit of surfing, checked the latest comments on enenews. I remembered that I had to pay a parking fine so I tapped out the number on the reverse of the ticket and at 5.00 am got the call intercepted when phoning Westminster council parking ticket automated phoneline!
    A male voice announced themselves as one of my customers and mentioned the specific department of this certain corporation…it might be worth noting what went through my head then… I have never phoned this number nor has this number ever phoned me, all contact is through a pda device! And a third party office! It took me a millisecond, even at that time of the morning, to realise who was on the line…very bravely I said
    “errr I think I must have the wrong number”
    to which he said “
    that’s alright “sir”. I have done an MA in psychology and reckon I can tell if someones in the police by the way the word sir is delivered! (lol not exactly true but you know what im saying)…
    my next move was braver still….i hung up and shook like a baby! My livelihood threatened! A social outcast amongst social outcasts! Under surveillance and probably blacklisted!
    “This was not good” I was thinking..
    then I read a poem by some American dude who took bigger risks than me for the same ideals…..then I was ashamed! I even put a donation in to admin to cleanse my guilt!….but the poem remained singing its simple message!
    “Now, if it is deemed necessary
    that I should forfeit my life
    for the furtherance of the ends of justice,
    and mingle my blood further
    with the blood of my children
    and with the blood of millions
    in this slave country
    whose rights are disregarded
    by wicked, cruel, and unjust enactments,
    I say, let it be done.”

    John Brown
    Arclight: I suspect that as they are based in Westminster that it might have been one of these chaps or one of the civil nuclear police? I is not important! What am I doing that warrants tax payers money being spent on putting long term surveillance on me? While hate groups, who have threatened uk nuclear stations seemingly less important! Well I can understand being branded alongside and indeed equal to these hate groups when I read articles like this!

    Anarchists should be reported, advises Westminster anti-terror police. Islamist terrorists also mentioned in briefing, as anarchists complain of being criminalised for their beliefs
    Sunday 31 July 2011
    “It unfairly implies that anyone involved in anarchism should be known to the police and is involved in an dangerous activity,” said Jason Sands, an anarchist from South London. “There is nothing inherently criminal about political philosophy whatever it is. The police work under the convention on human rights which disallows discrimination against people because of their political beliefs and even the request for information would seem to be in breach of that. It also seems to be a bit useless as a way of gathering intelligence. It isn’t focused on anything specific and they are just asking for general information. Imagine calling up and saying ‘there’s an anarchist in my building. What should I do?’ It doesn’t make sense.”
    The note was issued from Belgravia Police Station as part of Project Griffin which aims to “advise and familiarise managers, security officers and employees of large public and private sector organisations across the capital on security, counter-terrorism and crime prevention issues”.
    Sean Smith, external relations officer for Solfed, the British section of the anarcho-syndicalist International Workers’ Association, said of the call for whistleblowers: “It’s pretty absurd, but not surprising, when the state seeks to criminalise ideas it deems to be dangerous to its own survival”.
    arclight: I am not an anarchist! Nor the antichrist! (hope your listening Vatican city?)

    Rob Evans
    Tuesday 20 October 2009
    Secret files reveal covert network run by nuclear police
    • Industry-funded force uses moles and surveillance
    • Strategic aims include tackling ‘public disquiet’
    The CNC has spent £1.4m on weapons and ammunition in the past three years.

    They patrol outside nuclear plants, with their jurisdiction stretching to three miles beyond the perimeter of the installations. They have the same powers as any other British police officer and can, for instance, arrest and stop and search people.

    The body that regulates the CNC is also funded by the nuclear industry. Four of the eight members of the Civil Nuclear Police Authority are nominated by the nuclear industry as its representatives. Those four are employed in the industry. The others – mainly former police officers – are deemed to be independent.

    The force is expected to expand as the government presses ahead with plans for a new generation of nuclear plants, which are likely to attract protests.
    Ben Ayliffe, head of Greenpeace’s anti-nuclear campaign, said: “There are very obvious worries about an armed police force that is accountable to an industry desperate to build nuclear reactors in the UK. This industry will probably be very keen for their police force to use all the powers available to them to prevent peaceful protests against nuclear power.”
    John Sampson, the CNC’s deputy chief constable, said the force was by law operationally independent from the industry and safeguarded by its regulatory police authority. Its surveillance operations were only conducted if they had legal approval and were proportionate to the crime under investigation, he added.

    Arclight; Interesting bit here
    Sampson said it would be “ill-advised” of any nuclear company to put pressure on the force and surveillance was not conducted at the instigation of the companies. The government has provided a small amount of capital funding but does not pay any of the running costs
    The force is authorised to send informers to infiltrate organisations and to conduct undercover surveillance under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA). It is also permitted to obtain communications data such as phone numbers and email addresses.

    Reports by Sir Christopher Rose, the watchdog responsible for inspecting the use of these surveillance powers, have been obtained by the Guardian under freedom of information legislation.

    Rose, the chief surveillance commissioner, noted last year: “The strategic aims of the constabulary remain on the threat from terrorism and public disquiet over nuclear matters, including demonstrations/protests and criminal offences towards nuclear movements/installations.”

    The force keeps secret the extent of its clandestine surveillance operations on protesters and others. It has been collecting more intelligence in recent years.

    Sampson said its surveillance was “relatively modest” and mainly concerned with stopping terrorism.

    In July, Rose said the CNC’s “approach to covert activity is conspicuously professional”. He found that the system for storing the intelligence gained from informers was “working well”.

    He says he has been told during inspections that “senior officers regard covert surveillance as a long-term requirement”.

    Since 2007, the CNC has also been headed by an ex-intelligence official, rather than a police officer. Richard Thompson is reported to have been a senior officer in MI6. Rose noted Thompson “has extensive experience in the intelligence world, but has no previous police background”.
    “Sampson said it would be “ill-advised” of any nuclear company to put pressure on the force and surveillance was not conducted at the instigation of the companies.”
    Well if im not an anarchist and I don’t go to demonstrations, nor do I hold any allegiance to any political party except my old labour party subscription (ceased as I didn’t support the wars weve entered into). I am not a member of any religion (except spiritualist church subscription, now long lapsed). The only possible reason for this surveillance is because I talked about the inter-corporational attachements in terms of names instead of calling them lizards, illuminatae or a host of other names or concepts….the companies have a name and I simply want to know those names. Should this also be illegal information? A threat to national security? Me? Really! But maybe it was something else I said? I would generally go by the timing though!
    “Sampson said its surveillance was “relatively modest” and mainly concerned with stopping terrorism.” I suppose you would need to define the word terrorism? And this
    “He says he has been told during inspections that “senior officers regard covert surveillance as a long-term requirement”.
    Bugger! Means, if im under surveillance now, I will be for a long time! A simple blogger! Im not even a member of any organisations and I don’t demonstrate! I just wish a free and open discussion on censorship! Which should be possible in free and democratic countries. I understand the need for some info to be withheld in the case of military operations but I don’t expect censure when I am talking about the possible manipulation of the media and populations by big corporations, a personal point of view! aired in a forum designed just for that purpose. The information gleaned legaly by surfing the internet and cut and pasting quotes and links!
    Nice link here
    Anti-nuclear Movement
    arclight: why is this relevant to a blog on nuclear matters? Given the level of cover up on Chernobyl, I think it has always been with us!
    …..Minister denies nuclear ‘cover up’

    Epolitix – Thu, Jul 7, 2011
    ….tweet0EmailPrint……A climate change minister has denied that his department is encouraging the nuclear industry to “lie” about the true effects of a nuclear meltdown in Japan.
    At DECC questions today Paul Flynn (Lab, Newport West) said leaked emails published in The Guardian show that civil servants are “collaborating with the nuclear industry to lie about the true effects of Fukushima”.
    “Is it true that an official in his department wrote to EDF and the other companies saying: ‘We must get in, and we must make sure that the anti-nuclear chaps and chapesses do not fill the space with the truth,'” he asked.
    Gregory Barker said he has “absolute trust” in his civil servants.
    “The suggestion that there has been some Fukushima cover-up is absurd nonsense,” he told the House.

    Greg Palast: Fukushima Daiichi nuclear situation in Texas? I like old Greg he likes details!
    Posted on March 16, 2011 by dandelionsalad
    Greg Palast also did a good video interview in which he states that the compensation of gulf victims would be manipulated! Could be relevant in japan soon!
    Should I post this?
    I sit at my computer wondering if it is right to publish this….maybe it is?
    What was it I published last weekend that got up the noses of the authorities/corporations? To the effect that I very likely am blacklisted and am definitely under surveillance! Wow!
    Should I post this? What about those little children in japan relying on the charity of the corporation to alleviate their pain and suffering?
    Should I post this? Against my future comfort?
    Should I post this? What about the plans for the adults, designed and instigated by the loving corporations?
    Should I post this? What about the freedoms we thought we had as a rewriting of history is taking place, before our very eyes, before the eyes of our blinkered children?
    Should I post this? If I am being targeted, who else is being targeted?
    should I post this? What is the criteria for this targeting? Who sets the agenda? I want names to blame!
    Should I post this? I think about the children of japan and I say I have to post this!
    Peace light and love people!

    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      Thank you archlight. Now that’s my idea of a bad day off. :>)

    • alexa

      Arclight, according to freedom of speech right you can legally write whatever you want unless you are inciting to illegal acts.

      If a police officer called you, he would have had to identify himself as police officer I think. Could have been a former police officer – if you feel threatened, you should send a letter or e-mail to police asking to investigate. (Joke: unless you live in U.K., in which case you should investigate the police – Hackergate)

      You should post this information and get the police involved. If anything bothers you further the members of this forum can also complain to the authorities because it is illegal to harass you. Maybe we can start Fukushimagate. Australiancannon (?not sure name) was also harassed in Australia; once we found out that the UK govt and likely UK secret service were advising the Japanese, he decided to continue with his reporting.

      We should ignore all trolls and other ugly creatures coming on these forums. A lot of us know and respect each other – the culture of this forum is one of respect. Any personal attack would come from someone trying to disturb the forum. I reported someone (report comment) that was giving a hard time to Whoopie.

      I am very annoyed with Japan doing all these illegal things and endangering children, not evacuating them, all in the name of money.

      On a positive note, I am confident that here, in Toronto, with proper nonradioactive food and detox, I will be able to survive another year if the radiation emissions coming my way are lower than levels I have experienced so far. I am alergic to radiation and haven’t felt high levels of radiation (as at the end of March, April, May) in the last two months.

      • arclight arclight

        im in the uk! already contacted mobile company, call logged. talked to a few legal people…will keep you all posted!

        • arclight arclight

          have decided to move on as i would prefer the police to concentrate on the police who were taking money, cos thats well bad!!….as to what i should say to the police surveilance,
          i was aware that this topic might attract some undue attention, i am not a reporter to waylay your fears, but i suppose you know that now…admit it i had you going there!! interesting that you did that monday morning? if you thought i was a reporter, or was in discussion with unsaid paper on saturday night, was the point of that contact a warning??
          question (retorical, you dont have to answer it)
          do reporters that come under your nuclear eyes get this sort of treatment?? wonder why george monorobot of the guardian is shitting his very nuclear pants? is it not? just saying!
          anyway as we are currently at war with libya (hows that going by the way?)im backing off my righteous indignation and will move on as i trust you are more honest than the hackergate mob! god bless all here and THERE!!
          quick qoute from the dalai lama
          “So, take the example of a person who likes to eat sweet things, but doesn’t like sour things. Then there is a certain kind of fruit that this person enjoys. That fruit may be mostly sweet, but it may also have a little bit of sourness in it. That person continues to enjoy the fruit, they don’t stop eating it because it has a little sour taste. If they want to continue to enjoy eating that fruit, they have to accept the little bit of sourness in it. You can’t separate the sweet from the sour in that piece of fruit; it is always going to be mixed. Life is just like that. As long as you are living, life will have good things but also some problems that you don’t like. That’s life.”
          kinda makes sence to me!

  • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

    On another note, and on a personal level, I’m starting to feel how “sheeple” happens and I hate it! The daily stuff that we all do just rolls over some of this really important life changing stuff and I’m finding it harder to remain focused on ELE, radiation, etc. MSM is silent. Pols are silent. Friends and family are oblivious. It is beyond lonely and just wears you down. I didn’t come to enenews for over a week just to see if I could stay away, and it got too easy………maybe I just needed a brain vacation, like laying in a hot tub of warm, comfy denial.
    The frustration of the last few months finally got to me and I just plain got tired of that super helpless invisible radioactive killing us slowly and nobody listens feeling.
    Now I’m back and its “God help me to stay informed and committed, one day at a time”.

    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      @Poor Daddy

      Same here. Me bad. Actually was thinking this morning of taking a multi-day break from reality. Weary of trying to enlighten those I know who don’t want to know. Weary of this crooked, scheming world. Fed up with the criminality of the government. But, really, nowhere to go, so I’ll struggle on.

    • Novamind

      It is Important to take time for yourself to keep a Happy Healthy Balance in Life. Its OK to take a period of absence from all the Overwelming and Depressing news as needed to find a good compromise for yourself.
      I have overdone it and have had to Backoff for awhile.

  • theypoisonus

    This is the second reference by a poster here ( same poster) implying that I am a shill.
    This is preposterous.

    1. there isn’t enough money to make me trust any arm of our ‘so called govt. democracy’ it is a total sham, and has been for over 30 decades.

    2.My only concern here is the safety of the people/ particularly children of Japan and the probably ( unfortunately now ) that this horrid thing is / has been wayyyyyyyyy worse than MSM has been spouting.
    I don’t even watch ANY MSM.. I hate the sob’s. I read all my news at alternate sites, if you want to call RT a alternate site, as I read/watch stuff there also.

    3.I exposed who I was, as in, my read name in the article that I got published via the internet and spread around. I have never done that in my life .. I am a VERY private person and don’t trust all the medusa like arms of the corporation of the United States.

    4.This person is playing a good game, perhaps reverse psychology ? I admit I don’t have a college degree, worked in factories,was a waitress and bartender, and was finally taught upholstery by a friend in Bay St. Louis . I finally had a trade and some damn pride and I didn’t ‘work for the man” anymore.. untill I became disabled 6 years ago in a car accident. I have a TBI, my neck was broken, and my lower back is completely shot.

    5. My husband makes good money ( we are far from rich) but live comfortably considering we both are peasants basically. I come from farm country, so does he only different regions of the US.

    Find someone else to hate. I ignore you, surely as you are so damned smart, you can find a way to ignore me also.
    Pick on someone else for a change, this is my only venue, I am basically home bound and I need somewhere to come and keep informed and occassionally post.
    I do not deserve your attacks and I’m sick of them… and I’m sure others are also !!

    GO to Hell and leave me the F alone !!

    I use my ID because I have read my whole life about pesticides, floride in water, plactics, etc. and we are indeed being poisoned daily, and I’m Pissed about that especially as my husband has children and grandchildren I care about, and my step brothers do too !!
    The Govt. stopped caring about the people of this country long ago. I like to teach people about that.. that is the only way I can help in my diminished capacity !!

    I have enough damn problems without having you assault me and take your HATE out on me.
    Find another dam venue for your hate spewing, I’m sick and tired of being the brunt of it!!!!!!

    • arclight arclight

      given levels of paranoia that can exist (see my above post) ..dont let it get to you..the proof of the pudding is in the eating! i actually believe that the services that are paid to watch dont even need to interact with us (though that has probaly happened ) they have phone numbers internet accounts and carte blanche to do as they will,, with no regularatory oversite seemingly?
      we bloggers have to stick together, even if we have different outlooks, our aims and objectives are the same…ive enjoyed your posts and count you as one of the team… as i respect all here! these are unique times…goebbels wet dream….any psyops will try to break the community by using thier differences! we really need to keep this blog going as it is nearly the last portal of its kind on the web

      • theypoisonus


        I agree, but I may be old and beat up physically, but I sure am not going to take any form of slander either without fighting for myself. 🙂

        That said,Lets get back to what really matters! I went to ex-skf just now and he reports that a robot got fried ??

        The robot “Packbot” went to the opening to the “train room” and the survey meter went overscale. The actual radiation level at the opening could be a lot higher, and I hate to think how high it is INSIDE the room. The radiation could have fried the bot.

        Notice how rapidly the radiation level rose, from 18 to 300 to 2000 to over 5000, as the robot went inside the air conditioning room to the entrance of the “train room”

        TEPCO’s press handout on August 3 (in Japanese; English version is not yet out):

        There is also a picture of a Tempco handout.


        Those numbers are beyond frightening to me !!

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      I hope you find peace:
      Romans 14:19
      Therefore let us pursue the things which make for peace and the things by which one may edify another.

      I’ve been totally disabled since 1992 and in constant pain since my cancer surgery in 1989.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        I’ve lived in extreme poverty the last fifty years. The most my husband ever made in one year was $5,000. After my marriage failed I raised 3 children by myself (the oldest was 7 yrs. old).

        In my generation (I’m 70), women couldn’t attend any of the Ivy League schools. And the discrimination against an educated woman in my generation is unbelievable. So you could say that I’m really used to it. What’s one more time?

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        I’m also part Cherokee. You could say that the US gov’t has been trying to disinherit us for centuries. I guess I was taught a lot of patience. My ancestor Pocahantas became a Christian. So Christianity was on both sides of my family. I admired St Francis who married Lady Poverty. So I find my life very peaceful and I count my blessings every day.

        • arclight arclight

          st francis is one of the major influenses in my life particularly
          “the little flowers of st francis” a collection of stories about st francis and st clare… inspirational!!
          go to rush out now but felt i should comment on this!

  • theypoisonus

    I’m ashamed to say, I can’t remember how to do a zip file anymore 🙁

    I will check back later and see if someone saw it and can tell us what it says or if they have an English version of the handout from TEMPCO

    • arclight arclight

      you should have a zip file extractor, if not download one…reboot computer and then click on link… it was not impressive, except for the increasing gamma bursts that start as it gets closer… in the door there is alot of gamma distortion…bloody scary…i presume that the low quality camera was hardened against radiation to get this far? or they would have used a better lens? or was this just one camera for public consumption… would have been nice to see the gamma pictures which they must have taken.

      • theypoisonus

        ex-skf has it over there. Someone put it up on youtube, but the translation from Japanese to Spanish/Latin American is odd.
        He mentions they call it ‘train room’ and then I noticed they call the people running it
        ‘carbon based collegues’ despite the horrid info of the #’s I had to chuckle.
        Sounds like some old black and white B grade sci-fi movie from the 50’s, or an episode of Star Trek.

  • 1984

    I don’t know about you guys, but I kinda feel like I’m playing that old game pin the tail on the donkey.
    Except that after being spinned round and round I was headed in the wrong direction, and the parents and kids just couldn’t stop laughing at me. Then boom I found Enenews and that was my prize. I bet a lot of us have had the same feeling as me.
    I remember a quote from my long passed mother when I was growing up that I’ve harkened back to now. Whenever times got tough and mistakes were made, or I wasn’t smart enough to figure things out, she’d say “don’t come crying to me”. Now it looks like I’ll be quoting this pretty often to the cover pullers and steady as she goers of my world.

    • arclight arclight

      nicely put 1984

    • theypoisonus

      I’m envious. I just watched a BBC television version of 1984 about a week ago one night late via computer and a new place with strange videos I found. I couldn’t sleep for pain, so it took my mind off it..

      I read 1984 when I was about 16 or 17. It has never left my mind along with later when I first saw Feirenheit (sp) 100. I honestly believe that I collect books from the impression I got early in life from those two sources. The fear of not having books some day 🙁

      Great ID !! and so relevant !! 🙂

  • 1984


    Looking at time frames : 7/27 to present
    Los Angeles Ca.
    Omaha Ne.
    Bismark Nd.
    = totally getting nuked
    Phoenix usually the highest daily on http://www.radiationnetwork.com/
    Philadelphia Jersey area maybe witholding real counts
    Won’t be long before epa radnet and radiationnetwork are quieted or dumbdowned

  • selfsovereign

    Any of you bright souls know what this newspaper says?
    From a couple days ago, in japanese, something about government fraud (stick to what your good at, i suppose) and loosing global credibility.

  • selfsovereign

    volcanic venting in baja california caught on video.
    I post this as context for the numerous UNCONTROLLABLE variables that should have prevented the “sunshine in a can” energy theory from being used in reality.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Then this gentleman was correct..
    ..as usual…

  • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

    ATTENTION: It’s 8:25 8/4 in Fukushima and ANOTHER piece of corium attached to a fuel rod (?) or another piece of hyper-radioactive debris is being craned out. It is currently as of this posting being lifted by the crane. How long will the workers live who had to secure it to the crane wire?

  • theypoisonus

    I am so furious I could scream from here to Japan..
    Look at this article that ex-sfk put up since earlier today !!!!!


    12,600 high school CHILDREN go to Fukishima City for Annual Culture Festival !!!

    Have they completely lost their ever lovin’ minds over there ???

    The Nucler Community as in Busby or some dam body should raise holy hell !!
    Is there no point where these people will stop ‘saving face’? Dam Dam and Double DAM !!!!

  • maaa

    Better let them get a high dose of radiation and die fast. Rather than a low dose which will drag things out?

  • Sickputer

    There’s a new Japanese Meteorological website:



    Government-sponsored, but has some forecasts up to three months for rain. Looks like the monsoons are coming. No surprise there.

    The good news for the world is it’s raining in Fukushambles. The bad news for the the workers is…it’s raining in Fukushambles. Must suck know not only are you breathing in lung cancer by the breath, but also getting soaked in toxins through your clothes.

    Those workers have my admiration…I think they need a lot of additional help, but the Japanese government is going let Tepco play this losing games until there is absolutely a raging hell on earth at the Island of Good Fortune. Then things will get way beyond hopeless for everyone in Japan.

    And the underground Internet world wonders…where are the world-famous celebrities and/or politicians willing to step up and announce to the people of the world that the people of Japan are in dire straits and other countries are next? Are they so addicted to their paycheck that they will ignore the most important event in human history since World War II? This is World War III and the enemy is not even human.

    Bill Gates…your $150 million dollar house will not save your children from the radiation caused by the nuclear industry you admire so much! Where is your help from your foundation for the Japanese children? Not even your many billions will buy you and your family continued good health.

    • New toilet for the Elite bunkers for the long stay in underground selters !

      “to design and build a better toilet that generates energy, more hygienic, and don’t require a septic system or running water”

    • Sickputer

      Bill Gates and his 42 million dollars in grants to invent better toilets. Sheesh. One grantee is looking to extract water from urine and feces. Hey if the astronauts can do it, then wit’s got to be good for some poor little Chinese coolie who doesn’t have a pot to piss in (literally).

      But I draw the line at the shit steaks and turd burgers Japanese researchers invented!


  • Noah

    New Way for children to Wash Hands
    Life Style Change in a post 311 world

    The Noah family has a box of baking soda at every sink. After washing our hands with soap, we stick our wet fingers into the open top of the baking soda box, then rub our hands together.

    The baking soda does a great job chelating or binding with the tiny radioactive particles of heavy metal on the skin surface, drawing & lifting the particles up and away when you rinse.

    After playing outside, or with toys you suspect is contaminated, repeat three times.

    Have child follow soap then baking soda hand washing before they eat a meal or snack.

    Send child to school with some baking soda in their backback so they can wash correctly at school. Advise teacher first that you are doing so.

    Always travel with a box of backing soda, so the whole family can wash. On vaction, keep one in the car and in the suitcase and one in the day backpack (in smaller container).

  • Jebus Jebus

    The hammering of the nails has begun for Nuclear Power…

    Green Music Again Confronts Atomic Power
    August 3, 2011
    By Harvey Wasserman


    Amidst a life-and-death struggle to finally shut the nuclear energy industry, the power of green music flows again this Sunday.

    It’s also pouring over the Internet, as the historic all-day MUSE2 gathering is staged at the Shoreline Amphitheatre south of San Francisco, re-uniting Bonnie Raitt, Jackson Browne, Crosby-Stills-Nash, the Doobie Brothers, John Hall, Sweet Honey in the Rock and many more who’ll sing to benefit victims of the Fukushima disaster and promote a green-powered Earth.

    The concert runs from 3pm through the evening Pacific Time and comes as the nuclear power industry desperately seeks federal funding to build new reactors while fighting a tsunami of citizen opposition demanding the shut-down of aging radioactive power stations.

    Music has been a unifying, empowering force for social movements for decades. The labor union movement used it during strikes and solidarity marches. It was at the heart of the most powerful campaigns for civil rights. A whole generation’s demand for peace in Vietnam got electrified with rock and roll.

    And yet another round of citizen activism against nuclear power has been put to music from the grassroots and the sound stage, including that of Musicians United for Safe Energy.

    The first MUSE was formed after the 1979 melt-down at Three Mile Island. For five nights Raitt, Browne, CSN, Hall, the Doobies, Sweet Honey were part of an astonishing galaxy of stars that lit up Madison Square Garden. The shows were accompanied by a massive rally at Battery Park City that drew 200,000 people and featured the likes of Bruce Springsteen, James Taylor, Carly Simon, Peter Tosh and many more. (Battery Park City is now the site of one of the nation’s largest solarized urban developments).

    A three-record album followed that went platinum, along with a Warner Brothers feature film called “No Nukes.”

    In the wake of Three Mile Island, MUSE and a huge upwelling of grassroots citizen opposition, the corporate push to build atomic reactors shriveled and died. For three decades the industry went moribund, with virtually no US construction of new reactors.

    Thanks to citizen action, the thousand nuclear reactors Richard Nixon promised for the US by the year 2000 became just 104.

    But those decaying, radioactive death traps are under increasing citizen pressure to finally shut. Many are near major earthquake faults. Some two dozen are virtual clones of Fukushima Unit One, now spewing radiation in the air and sea around Japan.

    The lead shut-down fight now is in Vermont, where the state legislature has voted to deny Entergy the ability to run the Yankee reactor after March, 2012. The vote stems from a contract signed by Entergy with the state giving it the power to shut the reactor if it chooses.

    But Entergy is now in court trying to overturn the deal it made, arousing fury throughout New England, even among mainstream commentators. Entergy has gone so far as to order more than $60 million in fuel rods meant to keep the reactor operating after the 2012 deadline, intensifying the anger of the region.

    Meanwhile, fueled by wads of radioactive cash, the nuclear lobby has come back to Congress demanding taxpayer subsidies. Omitted from the recent budget deal, it’s widely expected the industry will try to insert into a Continuing Resolution or some other legislative vehicle a loan guarantee program forcing taxpayers to underwrite new reactor construction.

    Along with aid for the people of Japan, opposition to that and other nuclear subsidies are at the core of MUSE2. Grassroots nuclear opponents from all over the country will be tabling at Sunday’s concert, which will also feature an eco-village organized by long-time benefit promoter Tom Campbell. The Shoreline Amphitheatre is the nation’s largest green-certified concert venue.

    In person or on line, we’ll see you there on Sunday!

  • Sickputer

    “Evacuation orders to be lifted in late August

    The government says it wants to lift evacuation advisories in a few weeks for areas 20 to 30 kilometers from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.”


    Wow…like magic…it’s a freaking miracle…the radiation 20 to 30 KM from Fukushiam Daiichi is miraculously healed! An act of God (or Buddha, or the late Mother Teresa) maybe Tepco the Magician!

    The red band is all gone…courtesy of the Japanese government! Those guys are so damn good! >;-> How about a big fat Kobe steak from that zone for those guys? Or some mushrooms?

  • Sickputer


    66 years ago this Saturday…Hiroshima was bombed with the first nuclear weapon. “In response to a question about the ongoing crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant, the Hiroshima governor said it is not appropriate to compare the nuclear crisis triggered by the March 11 quake and tsunami and Hiroshima, the target of an atomic weapon.”

    SP: Maybe it is not appropriate on Saturday to speak of the comparison, but they can’t ignore the enormous dangers facing all of Japan. I think it is not only appropriate, but imperative to compare Hiroshima and Nagasaki to the current situation in Fukushima.

    • Novamind

      Let us not forget history or we are doomed to repeat it.
      Its not approprite for the Japenese to have a ceramony over the USS Arizona either.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Japanese fish not exposed to radioactivity – Embassy
    By Devota Mwachang`a
    3rd August 2011


    The Japanese Embassy in Dar es Salaam has dismissed as unfounded reports linking a recent consignment of fish imported from Japan, part of which has entered the Tanzanian market, to exposure to radioactivity.

    In remarks made in the city yesterday, it said the fish tested radiation-negative when screened by “credible” Japanese institutions including the Health and Social Welfare as well as Agriculture, Forest and Fishing ministries before being shipped out.

    The embassy’s statement comes with Health and Social minister Dr Hadji Mponda expected to reveal findings of investigations conducted by Tanzanian experts on the suspicious fish, whose importation has caused widespread concern and has seen some Members of Parliament blaming the problem on laxity by the relevant government institutions.

    The embassy’s statement sought to clear the air over the controversy surrounding the seizure of frozen mackerel imported from Japan following fears associating them with radioactive contamination.

    “The Japanese government would like to clarify its position regarding diligent radioactivity checks. The fish consignment is free from radioactive elements because it was verified by the responsible ministries in Japan before being shipped to Tanzania,” it said.

    “Preliminary research conducted by the respective ministries did not find radioactive materials on the fish,” it added.

    According to the statement, investigations on the fish conducted by Japan’s Ministry of Health and Social Welfare and that of Agriculture, Forest and Fishing sought to establish whether the mackerel and other seas products in question were indeed contaminated by radiation from Fukushima.

    The investigations were conducted by Japanese government ministries after the Great East Japan Earthquake which occurred on March 11 (this year), it said.

    The statement elaborated that Japanese government authorities have been routinely undertaking such tests to determine the possibility of any radioactive impact on mackerel and other marine products from Fukushima, where an accident occurred at a nuclear power plant occurred, as well as in other areas that might have been affected.

    “Throughout these ongoing tests, there have been no cases of mackerel sales or exports being restricted due to radioactive contamination,” it said.

    It further noted that if fish that made it to Tanzania were caught before March 11, there was “absolutely no possibility” that it could have been affected by the accident.

    Initially, according to the embassy, the Fisheries Agency under the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries in Japan contacted Kaneyama Corporation, the exporter of the seized mackerel, “which was able to provide the necessary documentation to prove that the 124.992 tonnes of mackerel in question had been tested by the Japan Frozen Foods Inspection Corporation, an inspection agency registered by the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare, and the detected radioactive substance was practically zero”.

    The embassy added that it would like to highlight that frozen mackerel from Japan “is affordable and has a high yield due to ease of consumption and minimal wastage”.

    The Tanzanian media recently reported that though the results of the initial test on the imported fish from Japan were negative, ruling out any contamination from toxic nuclear, a second test conducted a week ago contradicted the preliminary findings and raised serious doubts about the safety of the fish.

    It was earlier also reported that the Tanzania Atomic Energy Commission had cleared the fish after a sample taken to its laboratories in Arusha tested negative but, according to information reaching The Guardian, that was not true.

    Following the confusion, the government is said to have sent some samples of the suspected fish to Kenya and South Africa for further examination before it could making any definitive statement on the matter.

    The government has yet to issue a report on the investigations conducted by TAEC experts.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      I can’t believe that I used to buy so much food from Japan. There are so many problems with their reactors over the years, I have to wonder now how much radiation I consumed in the past.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        Then there’s so much more radiation in the US that I didn’t know about before Fukushima. Colorado has more uranium mines than any where else in the US.

    • Sickputer

      Great article…I think we know how negligent the Japanese food safety bureau has been with beef, but we will wait and see what the Kenyan and South African tests show before making a hasty assessment of culpability or deceit in shipping exports of seafood by the Japanese.

      They better get their act together because markets can slam shut quickly in a global economy and trust lost is not easily regained.

      • Novamind

        I will put my dollar bet on “Deceit” or at least attempted deceit. Followed by problems with testing as an excuse when caught.

    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

      This dumping of toxic waste, here radioactive fish (could be anything), for profit is not new. It’s also racist and genocidal behavior on the part of the Japanese, or U.S. or Europeans to take part directly or by proxy in this sort of behavior. I hope the people of Africa can somehow find the strength to reject their intentional deadly irradiation by the greedy in Japan, the U.S., Europe, China, etc.

  • Transect of Cascades turned up nothing really unusual. I know it’s worse than this currently in the midwest, Arizona, and Seattle so plz don’t think I’m shilling (or maybe the dosimeter needs calibrating).
    *Oakridge, Oregon 1m .19 mcSv/hr, grnd .38
    *Hwy 58, 4000 feet, westside 1m .22, grnd .32
    *Summit, Willamette Pass, 5000 feet, .17 1m, .28 grnd
    *6000 feet, Three Sisters Wilderness, Sisters Trail (above Devils Lake) .22 1m, .36 grnd
    *8000 feet, south slope South Sister, .19 1m, .17 grnd (counterintuitive; shouldn’t there be obviously more radiation higher up? And ground higher reading than air? Checked twice).
    *10,358 feet elev., summit South Sister, .17 1m, .28 grnd.
    *4,000 feet elev., Hwy 58 (Mowich vicinity) .22 1m, .32 grnd.

    When I think of what is going on in Honshu, this post makes me feel ashamed. Some part of me must have hoped I could say, as the Queen Mother did when she heard the palace had been bombed, that now she could look the people of the East End (which had been bombed to hell and back) in the face. But it does seem as if there’s not much, radiologically speaking, going on in my vicinity at present. I can hope against hope it stays that way, and maybe offer a family shelter some day, but, y’know, we’re right under the most favored corridor for that jet stream…

    • Novamind

      Thanks for the reporting.

    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

      Thank you very much for reporting. The findings are useful because they show that radiation tends to be higher at ground level at the very least. Remember to times your readings by 8600 to see the annual rates (for yourself, we can do that from what you have generously provided). Calibration and sensitivity of units are big issues, which is why I recommend that communities pool resources, by the best pancake censor sorts of Geiger sensing models possible, and then work together to ensure that callibration, sensitivity and other best-practice measurement and data recording/sharing protocols are founded, which works better than individual efforts for something like this in, perhaps, 99% of cases. Also, not all mountainous areas are going to be equally contaminated. It would be great if a community could get it together to begin testing in the Sierra Nevada in CA, it seems to me, from the earliest nuclear explosions back in March on the 17-19 (explosions on 12th-14th, at least). It rained nearly every day in the Bay Area and in most of Northern California for weeks after the March 11, 2011 earthquake.

  • Jebus Jebus

    By Miles Yu – The Washington Times
    5:24 p.m., Wednesday, August 3, 2011


    A leak of radioactive material was detected at a submarine base near the Chinese port city of Dalian in northern China, the U.S.-based Chinese website Boxun reported over the weekend.

    The accident reportedly occurred Friday, according to Boxun, when one of the two Jin-class ballistic missile submarines at the Xiaopingdao naval base near Dalian was being outfitted with electronic equipment.

    The news portal reported that the information came from a “direct and exclusive source” familiar with the mishap. Questioned by Inside China, a Boxun editor stated that the source for the report was from inside the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) who was “reliable.” Pentagon spokesmen have not commented on the reported accident.

    However, analysts cautioned that reports from such Chinese sources without confirmation must be viewed with caution. Richard Fisher, a Washington-based PLA analyst, suggested that the report could be a pre-emptive cover-up for a larger failure of some other part of the Jin submarine.

    Security surrounding the area of the reported accident was tightened, and Chinese authorities imposed a blackout of all related information.

    Mr. Fisher said, “A radiation leakage incident serious enough to warrant security cordon would indicate a significant issue with the nuclear reactor.Such an incident would be embarrassing for the PLA as it occurred near the Dalian Naval Academy, a key center for submarine development and crew training.”

    The site of the reported accident, near the Korean Peninsula, is in the most nuclear-sensitive region of the world. Japan suffered a devastating nuclear meltdown after a tsunami in March, and North Korea has frequently threatened to unleash a nuclear armageddon.

    The Boxun story spread quickly to South Korea and Japan. The Seoul-based Chosun Ilbo newspaper reported it with the headline “Rumors Circulate about Radiation Leak by Chinese Sub.”

    On Saturday, Mamoru Sato, a Japanese military blogger, said his source told him that the radioactive leak was “very dangerous” and warned that “the neighboring countries should take defensive actions, and the Japanese fishing boats in the area should be careful.”

    After the Fukushima nuclear accident, Japan stepped up its awareness of nuclear safety, with the scary realization that almost all of Japan is downwind from China, which is planning to build up to 100 nuclear plants.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Submitted by Joanne Herrmann on August 3, 2011 – 5:31am Joanne Herrmann’s Blog


    “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” ~ Genesis 2:17

    This quote at the opening of the Twilight series, which refers to a romantic tryst with a vampire, coincides with the sexual interpretation of the passage. Another interpretation, though, is more cognitive, indicating that what was explicitly forbidden was the incorporation of the results of the knowledge of good and evil. Unlike the sexual interpretation, which has been rather grudgingly accepted, the cognitive interpretation has met with fierce opposition, rooted in the romantic tradition that human knowledge should be left unfettered and free.

    So it is with some apprehension that I take the approach that perhaps, according to the wisdom of the ages, there are some areas of knowledge that are better off left alone. This is not to say that the knowledge, itself, should be forbidden, simply the arrogant use of it. After all, the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was allowed to grow, and it was believed to be central to the Garden of Eden. Just don’t eat of it is the admonition.

    Uncanny as it may seem, this seductive knowledge of the modern era, which involves nuclear power, can produce an awe inspiring, explosive growth into an immense tree – also referred to, less adequately, as a “mushroom cloud.” This powerful image and the knowledge that generates it brings with it both good and evil.

    The evil is well known. The atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima on August 6 and Nagasaki on August 8, 1945, killed 90,000-166,000 and 60,000-80,000 people, respectively. That’s over a quarter million people — a horror that is unthinkable, a travesty that peace organizations throughout the world commemorate annually.

    The Florida Coalition for Peace and Justice (FCPJ) will sponsor “Lest We Forget …” The SIXTY-SIXTH YEAR HIROSHIMA – NAGASAKI DAY OF REMEMBANCE on August 5, from 3 pm to 7:30 pm at Kings Bay Trident Base, St. Mary’s, Georgia, this year (just over the Fla/Ga line off I-95).

    According to Bob Tancig, Coordinator of FCPJ, “… there are more Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) on the 5 Tridents and in the bunker area at Kings Bay than at any other place on the Planet.

    … the US will commit a staggering $ 170,200,000,000 ( billion that is) to the Trident system through the year 2032 yet leave its citizens without adequate health coverage, education, housing, jobs, etc. 1

    …the 14 U.S. Trident submarines have the real capability to kill more than 14,300,160,000 (14 billion) people, which is 2 & 1/3 times the Planet’s population.”

    “We come on this day to stand for a few hours at the main gate of this site of ultimate destruction lest we forget the awful and awesome reality of the nuclear age. Trident is the end of the world. Come stand with us and begin to build a new world before it is too late. Join us,” said Tancig.

    Nuclear testing alone, conducted from 1945 until 2009 (in the United States until 1992), resulted in unanticipated worldwide fallouts of high levels of radioactivity. An example of this was the Castle Bravo test of a thermonuclear hydrogen bomb, detonated on March 1, 1954, at the Bikini Atoll, Marshall Islands. Its unexpected yield of 15 megatons caused widespread radiological contamination, which poisoned the area, the islanders, and local fleets of fishermen. 2

    Still, some people will argue, as did a friend of mine once, that there can be a good use of nuclear energy. Well, maybe, I said, but then lived to regret that agreement, as probably do many of the Japanese living through the present day tribulations (again) of the inept use of nuclear power. Who on earth thought it appropriate to build nuclear reactors in a country that was earthquake prone?

    According to Dr Shoji Sawada, a theoretical particle physicist and Professor Emeritus at Nagoya University in Japan, “Most of the reactors in Japan were designed by US companies who did not care for the effects of earthquakes. I think this problem applies to all nuclear power stations across Japan.” He points out that the Japanese scientists of the mid -50’s felt that the knowledge of nuclear energy was not developed enough to be put to technological use. The Japanese government, however, succumbed to U.S. nuclear policy by accepting the use of enriched uranium fuel.

    “Until we know how to safely dispose of the radioactive materials generated by nuclear plants, we should postpone these activities so as not to cause further harm to future generations,” he said. “To do otherwise is simply an immoral act, and that is my belief, both as a scientist and as a survivor of the Hiroshima atomic bombing.”

    According to Arnold Gundersen, a former nuclear industry senior vice president, “Fukushima is the biggest industrial catastrophe in the history of mankind.” Coinciding with this assessment, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) announced that the accident has released more radioactive material into the environment than Chernobyl, making it the worst nuclear accident on record.

    Also, a nuclear waste advisor to the Japanese government reported that about 966 square kilometres near the power station – an area roughly 17 times the size of Manhattan – is now an uninhabitable dead zone. 3

    The most recent report from TEPCO stated that near the ventilation stacks of reactors 1 and 2, were detected the highest radiation levels to date at the stricken Fukushima nuclear power facility – exceeding ten sieverts an hour – the maximum level the devices can measure and fatal to humans 4

    It’s an ongoing tragedy. Many people have been evacuated from their homes permanently, and the effects of this disaster on the health and well being of not only the Japanese but also those Americans along the West Coast of the United States is immeasurable.

    Our knowledge of the good and evil of nuclear power has been well established. Only the hubris of humans blinds them to the reality that they often do not know what they are doing when they unleash the power of the atom. Perhaps there’s a certain age old wisdom in having a little humility. We need to accept our limitations and acknowledge the fact that maybe we are not yet equipped to deal with nuclear power and its ramifications, and maybe we never will.

    1 http://www.nationalpriorities.org/sources/tradeoffsources.html
    2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo
    3 http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/06/201161664828302638…)
    4 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/02/world/asia/02japan.html

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      I like your post. Some people interpret the knowledge of good and evil as acting as if one were God and ignoring His commandments.

    • selfsovereign

      Thankyou to Risabee for posting locations and radiation readings. I once lived out that way when I worked with horses.
      I’ll be sitting here anticipating you next readings.

      What can I say about the Swede? Amatuer “fissionists”? I think this perfectly describes the nuclear power industry rather than the swede himself.
      38 people have built homemade fission reactors?!!!! Whoa, fear factor achieved.

  • manontherun111

    I feel it is my public duty to let every one know the information I am about to post, take it with a grain of salt as I have yet to prove the validity of what happened today.

    I live in Canada, today I got an e mail from my ISP cogeco cable that a computer in my network was sensing and receiving data from a site deemed to be a phishing / harmful site and continued use of that site would put both my service and my computer at risk, I am told to stop visiting the site and to run the free virus scanner to continue my Internet service. I am being cut off in 24 hours because I violated there tos.

    This sites homepage and registration. Pup where listed in the letter…

    Fucking panic. There watching you all.

  • manontherun111

    Php.. Posting from my phone, autocorrect. Blah.

  • manontherun111

    ( sorry for tripple post)

    Also I would love to notify the site admin about the censorship of this wonderfull site. And say Thankyou, any one know where I can find there email address?

    I feel so sick knowing that my ISP is censoring this site… And that they can monitor my traffic!

    • Jebus Jebus

      manontherun111 posted:
      And say Thankyou, any one know where I can find there email address?

      I don’t think that is necessary and it raises a flag…

      WE have noticed you…

      Can you post that email “they” sent you?

      • manontherun111

        I’ll post it later today, can’t access my email account from my phone,

        Check back in about 6 hours, I’m off to catch some z’s

        • Jebus Jebus

          I am not trying to discourage a valid poster.
          I am only trying to verify the possibility of an imposter.

          Most everyone sincere on this site backs up their observations and theory with facts and proof. If your ISP is truly doing this to you, you should gather your facts, and go after them.
          I can not see anything on this site that would violate any ISP’s TOS, except maybe a dodgy AD, and if that is the case then almost every website on the internet would violate that TOS. If what you are saying is fact, then the only thing that is being violated, by your ISP, is the freedom of speech…

          • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

            Dear Jebus:

            Censorship of content, if real and I agree this requires validation, is a dire and extremely serious offense on the part of the owners of an ISP, like Yahoo (does censor beyond TOS, particularly in political chats), AOL (probably the most fascist of all), and others. ISP’s have disproportionate power. When disproportionate power is being exercised to prevent a free exchange of ideas that undermine the disproportionate power legitimately, then there is a serious problem. Pardon me if I am not understanding your point.

    • arclight arclight

      Yi think my isp has been blocked to godlike productions…they want my email to sign in 🙁 debating what to do….

  • StillJill StillJill

    manontherun111,…Yes,…we are all being ‘monitored’. You know what friend? I’d be even more bummed, if they DIDN’T. Consider that you are doing humanity a GOOD turn,..if they are ‘monitoring’ you, yes? 🙂

    • manontherun111

      Indeed, it’s strange though, I have been reading this site for months and just today made an account because of that email, I have been sharing articles on facebook to the point where several members of my family want me to see a mental health professional lol…

      I can only imagine what they will think when I say the man is cutting off my Internet …

      It’s sad the world we are living in right now. All the disinformation being spread to dilute peoples fears of radiation and to quell the possibility of protest and forcing them to actualy do something useful. Makes me sick.

      Some times I even question if it is worth it. No one other then a select few friends from Vancouver give a rats ass and the rest call me names for trying to make them aware… Sigh…

    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

      Dear Jill:

      That’s an excellent POV and one I share. If we aren’t being surveilled, we aren’t doing OUR job to undermine the illegitimate effectively enough.

  • moonkai

    Ex SKF is still down ….

  • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com


    There is the possibility, and it’s not that remote but I do not claim to know one way or the other, that this site is itself a “bad guy” (CIA, Japanese equivalent, U.S. Military, nuclear corporate, whatever) site, created as might other similar sites in other languages. There’s a French site: http://www.scoop.it/t/tsunami-japon?page=3, which could also be not citizen initiated site. The purpose is not rocket science, if it were the case and I don’t know, that our worst enemies, those not serving us in this disaster and who want to keep nuclear power going at the cost of the entire biosphere, could keep themselves intimately informed about those of us who seek to undermine and overcome their draconian, fascist influence and status quos in this disaster and in other struggles to end nuclear power and weapons existence and proliferation.

    • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

      The authorship of this site, in previous periods (if we had the internet at that time–1980’s and earlier–with such graphical interface and popular usage), if it were a physical newspaper, or broadcast program, would have been vetted long ago. We’d know the owners, the contributors, the money trail, those gaining or not gaining directly and why. I don’t have the skills to investigate the initial authorship of this site, but it could be very interesting to find out. Remember, that even if we think we find out, the finding should be a collaborative effort to make it easier to spot if something important was missed.

    • Jebus Jebus

      My elder years of observing human nature, the sincerity of the souls here, and the 75 pages, and counting, of very informative, normalcy shaking headlines on this site tells me that, this is as real as it gets.
      For any entity that promotes nuclear power, this site and the information contained here, screaming to the masses the truth about the horrors of nuclear power, is counter productive to their cause. I can not believe that they would host it.

      • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

        Dear Jebus:

        I definitely don’t mean to impune the intentions or hard work of any “participating” at the site. The authorship is in question until we all know for sure who the authors are or that they are not associated with the government. There are a lot of people who trust Facebook and Twitter, as well; but these are obviously sites beneficial to government surveillance of citizens to maintain status quos of power and influence. I also believe in, and am not questionning at all, the, what I call, revolutionary intent and sincerity of those participating. It’s the authorship that worries me, until I personally know otherwise. But I won’t mention it again unless a context is created for discussion (someone else investigating this), since I’m not technically proficient enough to determine who authors what sites, myself.

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          Long ago in this battle…I gave up caring who censors and who sponsors what.
          Truth stands on its own..I can’t afford to care.
          ….I also want to clarify..
          ..the owner here ..offers no revolutionary intent.. he/she offers news.
          ..the revolutionary content is mine and perhaps ..a few others…
          …just a few that find it necessary to fight the corruption apparent…
          …fight for what is left of humanity in humans.
          ..this or capitulate.

          • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

            Heart, nothing at all against you, but you miss my point entirely by saying you don’t care who sponsors what.

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            Well ..yes..I care who sponsors what very much….this is important…
            I forget that people do not believe that we are being censored and many websites are faux data gathering sites, etc.
            Nor.. did I mean imply that all possible precautions against hacking etc should be notttaken.
            ..My point …if in the truth telling business..one ultimately can not afford to care.

          • Pallas89juno Pallas89juno@yahoo.com

            Dear Heart:

            Right on. Agreed. Now I understand what you mean. Yes, people who want to dig up and know the truth can’t afford to be ruled by fear. I’m also going to tell the truth and fight back even if it’s in a playpen created by the enemy.

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            Dear Pallas89juno:
            I have meant to say..how much I appreciate your presence here.
            Soon/later I am having a little discussion about ad- hoc networking..different ways to maintain computer and other communications should things get rough…at rc.
            Bernacke..has shown that asking the public to put a little extra food in the cupboard may not be a bad idea…
            I HATE when the US is laughed at by Putin….lol
            And..yes…we seldom get to choose the arena.

          • alexa

            Heart of Rose, I agree with everything you said – we have to fight for humanity. Money is the master now – in Japan and in Northern America.

            I found this on twitter – someone is doing something for evacuee children in Japan:

            #opsafe camps with evacuee children to recover from trauma in Tokyo and Fukushima. http://on.fb.me/aUaYRh#DT @operationSAFE

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    That’s right..I expect the sheeple to get off their lame arses and fight.. lol.

    • theypoisonus

      It’s coming Heart. The ‘little people’ are getting more and more fed up. I search out info on different fronts. Coming from farm country, I got to Farm Wars and PPFgazette and read their articles.
      Farmers are being taken over my Monsanto. They are sick of it !! and they are also sick of the govt. bull.

      I read RT.. and yes, they smuggly ‘make fun’ of the US, but they do print info that we don’t see any longer in the US.

      I read Chinatoday, 3 Japanese sites, The Hindu news site, 2 UK sites, and Aljeezera ( owned by UK and has some of the best human interest docs around imo) To me, people stay too much in the US and read there, branching out, you get a better all around picture, but have to take all info ‘with a grain of salt’.

      You speak of revolution and I agree, but am not longer able to physically do things ‘on the ground’. I do try to spread the word when I have to get out for foodstuffs, etc. My pantry is very full. I have 50 cans of Tuna, 25 cans of Salmon, as I don’t trust the future of said foods.. along with alot of other dry goods. I keep buying each time, bit by bit. Given the floods in the wheat, corn, soybean growing states, and the drought in Tx. food is going to go sky high.. I have watched farming my whole life.

      Back to revolution.. Found this Doc about the ‘debt ceiling’ joke. The poorer of us, who, but the way used to be the Middle Class, are getting more and more upset. Larger cities are protesting more and more.
      Wall Street gets hit often, most recently around the first of Aug. The Doc from Aljeezera shows that info and has some interviews with a number of influencial folks.

      So.. this doc is for you.. we are at a point in this country where things are financially exactly like before the Great Depression.
      To Quote Bette Davis in All About Eve.
      Hold onto your hats, it’s going to be a bumpy ride !


      You can only push people so far, even here in the good old US.

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        @theypoisonus…thank you so much for the above post..what a perfect piece..
        It shows perfectly the state of the ecomony in this country…
        And it shows perfectly… the reason we must fight for a serious change.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    …perhaps the word of the revolution arrived to soon…perhaps there is a better time…later perhaps…when things are more dire.

  • theypoisonus

    Hi Heart, 🙂

    Well, I found some absurd story to lighten the air in the room a bit.
    I was getting the “paranoid blues’ bad so went hunting for something more uplifting !

    Some guy in Sweden did a nuclear experiment in his kitchen, yup, I said kitchen !
    Seems he isn’t alone in this effort. He attributes his ‘mentor’ to be some guy from the US back in 1994.

    So, for some ‘fresh air’ and a chuckle..


    That stove looks like toast to me ! 🙂