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Human, animal DNA mixing needs oversight
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2011/07/22/animal-human-experiments-uk.html
Anyone read “The Island of Doctor Moreau”?
The Island of Doctor Moreau is an 1896 science fiction novel written by H. G. Wells. It is told from the point of view of a man named Edward Prendick who is shipwrecked, rescued by a passing boat, and then left at the ship’s destination by the crew along with the ship’s cargo of exotic animals. The island is home to a scientist named Doctor Moreau, who is conducting bizarre and cruel experiments on the animals he has imported, attempting to create sentient beings out of animals.
The novel deals with numerous philosophical themes, including the need to take responsibility for the things we create, the question of what makes a man a man, the cruelty of nature and of man, and the dangers of trying to control nature.
He misses one out: using the unseen, unknown as a form of social control, but …a very good book, worth reading (and a short-ish one, so easy to get through).
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PU239, I have not read The Island of Doctor Moreau, but I remember seeing a clip of how Marlon Brando decided to play his part in the movie. He was wearing a pair of boxer shorts and had a lampshade upside down on his head. :>) O.K., I’ll put that on my hold list at the library. Thanks for the reminder.
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Gov’t to allow use of less-demanding radiation detector for beef
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110723p2g00m0dm018000c.html
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Los Alamas – Nuclear Waste Nightmare
They need to pack up and leave
“Another Kind of Fukushima?” Asks Whistleblower Robert Gilkeson
http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/189777.html
Bob concludes, “The seismic hazard at LANL is possibly 75% higher than the power of the earthquake ground motions that released very large amounts of radionuclide contamination at Fukushima.”
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“Because they’re looking at a possible major earthquake, it’ll impact all of us. With 6 metric tones of plutonium inside the lab, and all of the surface and subsurface nuclear waste, it’ll impact the entire American southwest, everybody. They need to pack up right now and leave.”
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Another nightmare to consider. It seems there is a new one every day. Our trust has been betrayed so many times in so many ways. It seems we are sitting on a time bomb.
That article needs to make the front page of every major newspaper in the southwest, but probably won’t even be printed by a single one.
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What In The World Are They Spraying?</b.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA
[Length: 1 hour, 37 min]
The killfest continues ….
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Nuclear Engineer Arnie Gundersen on The Howie Rose Variety Show 24 June 2011 part 1 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pvgUO1JFK0
Note: His website has gone from 800 to 5 million hits a day.
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5 million hits a day! That’s a ray of hope.
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I’ve gone over the deep end,…again,….kinda like Madhatters I think. I’m envisioning some bright, business minded individual designing a motorcycle helmet that is painted yellow and black like the radiation sign, that actually covers the breathing areas with some “Noah type” HEPPA/charcoal filtration deal-e-o. Must still be worried about our own xdrfox,…getting soaked out on his M/C!
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You’re onto some good thinking there Jill.
How about teashirts with a big radiation sign and µSv readings listed on the back.
I’m sure we could come up with some other good things to get the message out:
Mercury+Radiation=NoMoreFish
TEPCO+NRC=Death
Earth:
Start:4.5 billion years ago.
End:2012.
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Those are good ideas Pu!
I like those small buttons, because you can pin them on your clothing / bag everyday.
And car stickers!
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And flags!!
http://www.shop.ausgestrahlt.de/no_cache/shop/fahnen.html
Aren’t the whole USA covered in flags??
Canada? Not really???
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Revolution in peace.
We are witnessing a revolution, if not creating one with our efforts.
The events of 2011, all of them, signal an awakening of consciousness.
We look towards our elected officials for answers and receive silence or lies.
We gather our information with fears of redaction and retribution.
Our belief in the system has been shaken to the core.
We can no longer sit silently while the catastrophic noise gets louder.
Our hearts and minds tell us that there is very little time to waste.
As shown in Oslo, evil takes any side, left or right.
Our mother earth recognizes this and sends her notice, day after day.
This is not so much about mans survival, but the survival of the earth.
Not the physical earth, but the survival of the breath of life.
There are those who wish to control that breath of life.
Foolishly believing they can determine who can and can’t take that breath.
The right to that can not be assumed on a boardroom whiteboard.
All that is good is being challenged by the poisons of evil.
Good and evil have all the same tools at their disposal.
Powerful tools never before seen since the current age of man on earth.
TOols with the ability for deception, the ability to destroy everything,
We must choose our tools wisely, We must use our tools carefully.
Least we are falsely depicted as evil, and and stall the tides of change.
We must be carefull in calling our shots, we do not need weapons of hate or death.
We only need to join hands together in unison, a voice of one.
Our hearts will guide our fellow man, Our minds will remember and teach our children
Our hearts and minds will take this battle to the front.
We must win this time, and hand back to mother earth, all that is good.
Mother earth is telling us, this is our last chance.
We can not afford to have a revolution with war. Choose wisely.
We must have this revolution, but, we must have this revolution in peace.
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Thank you Jebus. I totally agree with you. Non-violence is the only way to go. And we can do it if enough people are aware.
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Nicely said Jebus.
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Totally OT: Amy Winehouse is dead.
Makes me sad.
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http://news.lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/2011/07/citizens-in-miyagi-prefecture-request.html
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Yes, fame and people= lethal combination sometimes.
I see J. Lo left her Babies Daddy, Marc Anthony. Great decision for your twin sons there J.Lo. Yeah sure,…they’ll be F.I.N.E. (Fucked-up, Insecure, and Neurotic emotionally)
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Agreed Jebus—we must win this without a shot being fired. How awesome is that? Especially if TPTB start shooting,…and we keep walking. I’m all in!
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I posted this because the little girl with the mask on in the picture, says more with her eyes than all the words on that page…
570 ‘quake-related deaths’ feared
Kyodo
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110724a2.html
Warm welcome: Residents of Marumori, Miyagi Prefecture, greet Goshi Hosono, state minister in charge of the nuclear crisis, with signs such as “Check radiation levels of all food products.” KYODO PHOTO
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Such adorable children being ignored in their plight, how hardened heated nations have become to the safety of our futures !
; o tears for lack of caring
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hardened heated mispselled for being upset, ment to be hardened hearted
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ALERT! Volcanic “event” in southern CA — Pisgah Cratre — Bullion Mountains
Uploaded by dutchsinse on Jul 23, 2011
UPDATE 213am CDT 7/23/2011 .. hoping that someone can get up to the area first thing in the AM.. the plume swirled around the area for several hours .. then settled out. It stayed MUCH longer than steam would have.. so that rules out a geyser… and fire is ruled out as well.. which only leaves some kind of volcanic event , or a plane crash….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyOy9u0ch8I
7/23/2011 — CALIFORNIA Volcanic eruption at Pisgah Crater– need video ASAP
the plume swirled around the area for several hours .. then settled out. It stayed MUCH longer than steam would have.. so that rules out a geyser… and fire is ruled out as well..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X9-pV67DvU&feature=related
Brought to you via by a friend Chelsea at http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/7-mile-oil-slick-found-in-gulf-of-mexico-local-official-believes-its-from-bp-disaster
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Xdrfox, thanks for posting. “volcanic event” means there’s something going on underground, doesn’t it?
Hope there’s no earthquake soon to follow, as California’s the last area on the pacific “ring of fire” which is still without major EQ in the last 2 years….
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I saw this, but nothing has been confirmed by the MSM…
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Not that I am only trusting that, but it seems strange that there is nothing at all about it.
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Here 10 videos from YouTube that best match with the term radiation sickness (video):
http://images.mitrasites.com/radiation-sickness-(video).html
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OT but, this is the discussion thread right?
This has been ongoing since the 2004 election.
I read about it, but, I didn’t know murder was involved.
Here is a bombshell IMO…
Forget Anonymous: Evidence Suggests GOP Hacked, Stole 2004 Election
http://www.benzinga.com/news/11/07/1789905/forget-anonymous-evidence-suggests-gop-hacked-stole-2004-election
From the article:
Connell was outed as the one who stole the 2004 election by Spoonamore, who, despite being a conservative Republican himself, came forward to blow the whistle on the stolen election scandal. Connell gave a deposition on the matter, but stonewalled. After the deposition, and fearing perjury/obstruction charges for withholding information, Connell expressed an interest in testifying further as to the extent of the scandal.
“He made it known to the lawyers, he made it known to reporter Larisa Alexandrovna of Raw Story, that he wanted to talk. He was scared. He wanted to talk. And I say that he had pretty good reason to be scared,” said Mark Crispin Miller, who wrote a book on the scandal.
Connell was so scared for his security that he asked for protection from the attorney general, then Attorney General Michael Mukasey. Connell told close friends that he was expecting to get thrown under the bus by the Rove team, because Connell had evidence linking the GOP operative to the scandal and the stolen election, including knowledge of where Rove’s missing emails disappeared to.
Before he could testify, Connell died in a plane crash.
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whistle blowing in the usa! at this point i really feel for manning and asssange and all those financial/tax whistleblowers who ended up in prison….or worse! nice update, it is relavent as the same manipulation of the laws are being used concerning fukushima and the same players are involved ie usa, sweden,uk etc what a wonderful world
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That was my point. Anyone who wants to challenge the corruption and madness is in for a very rough time. You had better be prepared to give your life to the cause.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwBMObtsbqw
Notice these guys were first on the scene, before first responders, I point to the article below on how the trooper ID the body!
Lies, lies and more lies…
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December 22, 2008
Republican IT Specialist Dies in Plane Crash
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/12/22/republican_it_specialist_dies_in_plane
AMY GOODMAN: So, explain what this case is all about and exactly what Mike Connell has been doing over these last years. What does it mean to be Karl Rove’s IT guru?
MARK CRISPIN MILLER: Well, the lawyers in the case refer to him as a high-IQ Forrest Gump, by which they mean that he seems to have been present at the scene of every dubious election of the last eight years. We’re talking about Florida in 2000. We’re talking about Ohio in 2004. We’re talking about Alabama in 2002. He seems to have been involved in the theft of Don Siegelman’s re-election for governor. There’s some evidence that links him with the Saxby Chambliss-Max Cleland Senate race in Georgia in 2002. To be Karl Rove’s IT guru seems to have meant basically setting it up so that votes could be electronically shaved to the disadvantage of the Democrats and the advantage of Republicans.
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AMY GOODMAN: So why did he fly in — why did he pilot his own plane when he was so afraid?
MARK CRISPIN MILLER: Well, that’s a good question. We can’t ask him, unfortunately. I mean, this is kind of a grisly thought, but, I mean, I think we should be asking where the body is? We’re told that a trooper on the scene immediately identified Connell. But then we read elsewhere that there was nothing left but debris and that the fireball was enormous. So maybe he wasn’t on the plane. I mean, who knows, when you’re dealing with people as deep as these?
But the point is — I can’t stress this strongly enough — we’re dealing not just with a shocking accident, if that’s what it was, and a convenient one. We’re dealing not even just with a particular lawsuit that, you know, really requires vigorous promotion. The important point here is that this is all about our elections. That’s what this is about. This is about democratic self-government.
The fact that Obama won so handily has caused a lot of us to sit back and relax. There’s been a lot of popping of champagne corks and people drawing the conclusion that the system must work, because our guy won. Well, this is not a sports event. This is self-government.
In fact, the evidence strongly suggests — and we haven’t had a chance to talk about this since Election Day — that Obama probably won by twice as many votes as we think. Probably a good seven million votes for Obama were undone through vote suppression and fraud, because the stuff was extensive and pervasive, in places where you wouldn’t expect it.
The Illinois Ballot Integrity Project was monitoring the vote in DuPage County, right next door to Obama’s, you know, backyard, Cook County. And two of them, in only two precincts on Election Day, saw with their own eyes 350 voters show up, only to be turned away, told, “You’re not registered,” people who were registered, who voted in the primary. All but one of these people was black. That’s in Illinois.
People at the Election Defense Alliance have discovered, from sifting through the numbers, an eleven-point red shift in New Hampshire. That means that there’s a discrepancy in Obama’s disfavor, primarily through use of the optical scan machines, an eleven-point discrepancy in the Republicans’ favor, OK?
You start to combine this with all the vote suppression, all the disenfranchisement, all the vote machine flipping that went on in this election, you realize, OK, Obama won, but millions of Americans, most of them African American and students, you know, were not able to participate in any civic sense, ironically, a lot of the same people, you know, who would have been disenfranchised and were disenfranchised before the civil rights movement. So the fact that a black president was elected, while cause for jubilation, see, ought not to take place at the expense of a whole lot of our fellow citizens who seem to have been disenfranchised on racial grounds. My point is very simply this: We’ve got to get past the victory of Obama and look seriously at what our election system is like, or else, I promise you, see, the setup that was put in place in this last election, in 2004 and in 2000, OK, will still be there in 2010, still be there in 2012. So we’ve got to take steps to do something about it now.
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He was not the only one. There was a Senator (Federal investigators took over that scene immediately). There was the wife of someone who died on 911 (pilot error). All these were ruled “accidents”. Strange that so many accidents happen to people who can cause a lot of grief to the powers that be. Far, far too many others as well.
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correct
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Change during increasingly fascist times does NOT come from the top, except of the fake or phoney variety. We all, in the U.S. lost our already very weak right to vote (winner/money/majority usually take all is not democracy in the slightest, particularly when less than 1% of citizens have any grasp of anything political beyond boosterish rah rah-ing and rallyign sections–mindless tits in the U.S.) with the 2002 Help America Vote Act. Completely. End of story.
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http://nuclear-news.net/2011/07/24/japan-about-to-censor-internet-news-on-nuclear-radiation/
of course theres more than one way for the pro nukes to see us off!
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The reference for the above…
New Japan Law ‘Cleanses’ Bad Nuclear News
Sustainability | Theodora Filis | July 24, 2011 4:45 am
http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/new-japan-law-cleanses-bad-nuclear-news/article13589.html
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I think we’ve all been sensing this; but it’s good that there is at least some reportage in the English language from the billion or so speaking English…irritated that it’s not more. lol (oh yeah, and nearly ZERO reportage in Dumbfuckistan–the U.S. with nearly 300 million English speakers
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Yes, if my memory is right,..seems TPTB use planes to shush ‘boatrockers’ more than most of their other murder for hire tricks. Think I’ll continue to deprive TSA of copin’ a feel on this Ol’e Gal!
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Good job. I fucking hate the SS (as in Nazi) Luftwafa government gropers (TSA).
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Sunlight and bleach couldn’t ‘cleanse-THIS-bad-nuclear-news’!
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it looks like, Sunday PST 07242011, that Enews has been infiltrated OR, perhaps, the admins of the site have take a deserved weekend off…or? Any ideas? TY
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Our tips are falling into a black hole; I think Admin may have been cut off from access … we should post some new things at the fb page at least, while this is going on.
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The Topic of our collective irradiation has been dying in the collective in the U.S. The herd here in the U.S., has for the most part and as ever, suffered from another typical culturally normal amnesiac brain fart. Also, I’m not sure, but did anyone else, but me on Friday observe that the bandwith of the entire web (not my computer or neighborhood with the type of cable service, security programs, etc., that I have) in the U.S. seemed “pinched off” or somehow intensely diminished. Did anyone else get this impression that things were moving VERY slowly in total blackout mode in the 24 hours of the little explosion at SPF FD R4? but before the stupid, false flag in Norway?
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How does the CIA get its shooters to behave in such a predictable way? Interesting. Unfortunately, most of the psychologists working on such topics work for the office, itself.
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I don’t know exactly where to post this, but I found it very timely and interesting. It’s regarding Three Mile Island, and has some information from our good friend Arnie Gunderson.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25757
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Iokay5, Thank you for this very important article.
Acute Radiation Syndrome: A Fact Sheet for Physicians
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/radiation/arsphysicianfactsheet.asp
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TMI and Community Health (Video of Arne Gundersen
http://www.tmia.com/march26
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Startling Revelations about Three Mile Island Disaster Raise Doubts Over Nuke Safety
“And the NRC requires operators of plants found to be vulnerable to severe accidents to fix the problem “only if a cost-benefit analysis shows that the financial benefit of a safety backfit – determined by assigning a dollar value to the number of projected cancer deaths that would result from a severe accident – outweighs the cost of fixing the problem,” the report states.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25757
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hand me a bucket. FAST!
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Is Radiation to Blame?
http://www.radiationanswers.org/radiation-blog/is-radiation-to-blame.html
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Ahh..Washington and the media…bed partners…
http://www.prisonplanet.com/nbc-news%e2%80%99-latest-hire-vowed-not-to-criticize-obama-over-anything.html
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That fellow Rod Adams has been running his mouth lately, saying that Arnie was fired for having low sales figures
http://atomicinsights.com/2011/06/arnie-gundersen-going-international.html#comment-8909
So I sent him this:
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Toxic chemicals freed in the Canadian Arctic: Study
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/07/25/toxic-chemicals-freed-in-the-canadian-arctic-study
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