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261 comments to Discussion Thread for July 8 – July 17, 2011

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Off-topic:
    We have flooding ..we also have drought.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43718212


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  • moonkai

    hahaha … look at the end of this video. It looks like that reporter is totally not believing in what he is reporting. Like “what the fuck am I reading?” …

    btw … I know personally some of the NHK announcers … they truly are good people! I think overall, NHK tries to report as neutral as possible. But it is funny how sometimes, they cannot even hide their emotions!

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/11_39.html


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    • milk and cheese milk and cheese

      News is not supposed to be ‘neutral’ in instances of gross corporate and governmental misconduct.
      No one would have ever reformed a government peacefully, otherwise.
      We have been dumbed down all over the world, it is not a phenomenon that is restricted to one nation.


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  • odylan

    I can’t remember if we’ve previously had this good news piece of research information from Science Daily

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110329134254.htm

    so here it is :) , and if we have had it before, it certainly does no harm to take another look


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    • arclight arclight

      novel idea
      “A power plant operating with 50 cubic meters of freshwater per second could produce up to 100 megawatts of power, according to the team’s calculations. That would be enough to provide electricity for about 100,000 households.

      Cui said it is possible that even treated sewage water might work.

      “I think we need to study using sewage water,” he said. “If we can use sewage water, this will sell really well.”"


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  • Steven Steven

    Last couple of days I’ve been trying to relocate the Twitter Fuku link on Google (good for finding breaking stories). Thought perhaps I’d had some sort of PC ‘driver error’. Turns out, I’m not alone:

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1389027/pg1


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  • matina matina

    moonkai I dont know if you have been following on you tube Alex from Tokyo….he has been reporting from Tokyo since day one on the Fukushima accident and is seems to be an awsome person…..he moved to southern france since the 1st of July to join his japanese wife+kids who left at an earlier time….was thinking you have a lot in common (he had to leave also his new bussines behind) and maybe would like to catch up…..his you tube link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSLYQGaMe8, his you tube name is
    playbacklapompe ……


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  • Radioactive Peaches discovered in Santa Monica CA.

    4:00 pm INTERIOR spot reading in Santa Monica market with approximate background of 39 CPM – Two peaches sustained 81 CPM and above or over two times background (208% of site background).
    (scroll down to see)
    http://www.enviroreporter.com/radiation-station-stats/

    Discussion – Fukushima’s First Frightening Fruits:
    http://www.enviroreporter.com/2011/03/enviroreporter-coms-radiation-station/#comment-53330


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    • UC Berkeley Nuclear Engineering now aware.

      Waiting for replies. here:
      http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4973#comment-14487

      Note comment: “…which when eaten, would irradiate a person from the inside out for potential years to come.” -Potrblog July 10th, 2011, at 8:05 pm

      Any thoughts?


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      • arclight arclight

        Better link here..more info like this little gem! Comment by tdm
        “How does food become tainted by radiation?
        Plants can become poisoned when radioactive material enters the soil and is taken up by root systems. Radioactive particles in the air can also settle on food while it is growing.
        Milk and meat can become contaminated when animals eat grass and other plants that are radioactive. Radioactivity cannot contaminate food that is packaged or sealed, according to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
        Does radioactive food look different?
        No, it will not appear spoiled, the FDA says.
        Why is it dangerous?
        The radioactive substances are absorbed through the gut, and then enter the bloodstream and travel to various tissues. Iodine-131 is most likely to migrate to the thyroid gland, where it can increase the risk of thyroid cancer. Other types of radioactive materials, such as cesium, tend to migrate to bones and be stored there, said Dr. Daniel Zurosky, director of radiation safety at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine.
        How severe is the risk?
        It depends on the amount and type of radioactive substances. For instance, cesium is more dangerous than iodine because it takes longer to decay.
        Absorbing radioactivity from food could increase the risk of certain cancers later in life. Children are more vulnerable than adults because they are still growing and absorb more contamination, pound for pound, compared with adults.
        Can you still eat the food?
        Plants that have only surface contamination can be washed and eaten. Radioactive material that entered through the root system cannot be removed. It’s prudent to discard any questionable food and avoid eating produce, meat, milk, fish and mushrooms from contaminated areas.
        Radioactivity can be removed from milk through a chelating process, said Roger A. Clemens, associate director of the regulatory science program at the USC School of Pharmacy. That would be an option for the Japanese government to consider.
        What about water?
        People may have to use bottled water to avoid contaminated tap water, Zurosky said. Radioactive water can be cleaned by filtering, but it would be an enormous task to meet the demands of an urban area.
        Can crops be protected?
        It is possible to cover vegetables, fruit and animal feed with plastic sheets or tarpaulins, according to the FDA. Livestock can be moved into barns.
        http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/21/health/la-he-food-radiation-qa-20110322
        and this qoute too!
        I think the LA times story is referencing the 500bq/kg limit for Japan (same as on the chart for Japan). Why the US limit is so much higher I have no idea? Probably more lobbying and bribes from industry here if I had to guess.
        from this article
        Japanese crops can be safe to eat despite radiation from nuclear plant, scientists say
        From this link
        http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4996


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  • StillJill StillJill

    I think we need some levity: Topical I think:

    An atheist was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and
    he turned to her and said, “Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker
    if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.”

    The little girl, who had just started to read her book,
    replied to the total stranger, “What would you want to talk about?”

    ” Oh, I don’t know,” said the atheist. “How about why there is
    no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?” as he smiled
    smugly.

    “OK,” she said. “Those could be interesting topics but let me
    ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same
    stuff – grass Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns
    out a flat patty, but a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that
    is?”

    The atheist, visibly surprised by the little girl’s
    intelligence, thinks about it and says, “Hmmm, I have no idea.”

    To which the little girl replies, “Do you really feel qualified
    to discuss why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after
    death, when you don’t know shit?”

    And then she went back to reading her book.


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  • Good one. Though the same story could have been told of many preachers with only a few words changed.

    Higgins is back up, folks!


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Feast your eyes on this:
    totally OT, no wait, not really, because
    this is what we’re about to lose.
    http://www.notcot.org/post/41493/

    peace.


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  • M Curie M Curie

    Proposed sites for new US reactors a/o 3/12/11 -

    http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/new-reactors/col/new-reactor-map.html

    Will one of these be in YOUR backyard?


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  • brydie

    does anyone know – is there a coverup about los alamos and the plutonium drums and about ft. calhoun. I cant find any news anywhere.


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  • Noah

    Apple Pectin
    Effective Reduction of C-137

    Based on the ongoing bio-accumulation of C-137 within the food chain, my alarm and concern for children within the northern hemisphere has recently increased.

    As we have correctly anticipated, C-137, a potent potassium mimic, has entered the potassium pathways within the cells of all living things, to travel up the food chain into the human population.

    Increase in infant mortality and SIDS rates, tragic first evidence of the coming disease tsunami that is now on it’s way.

    The same tragic dynamic that made Bikini Atoll uninhabitable, is slowly transforming the lands of Japan, Hawaii Alaska, Canada and the continental US, into the site of a brewing genetic holocaust.

    I am alarmed that the parents of young infants and toddlers are more afraid of the protective measures for their children, than they are of the C-137 contained within their children’s food. I find this odd.

    The therapeutic modality is available. Yet, in spite of life saving knowledge, parents are not ready to use the therapy for themselves, let alone for their children.

    The Apple Pectin Protocol was used from 1996 to 2007 on more than 160,000 children with success. Yet in spite of the efficacy and safety of the protocol, it has been disregarded in wake of the Fukushima Disaster.


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    • Modified Citrus Pectin
      Complementary and Alternative Cancer Therapy
      Heavy Metal Detoxification
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified_citrus_pectin


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    • NoNukes NoNukes

      We are using it!


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      • Noah

        The Apple Pectin Protocol
        Continued…

        NoNukes, May God save you and yours during this Genetic Holocaust. May the following information be of assistance.

        The Noah Family follows the therapeutic protocols for C-137 decorporation developed for children, in the wake of the Chernobyl disaster.

        “For practical reasons the curative-like use of apple-pectin food additives might be especially helpful for effective decorporation of Cs-137. From 1996
        to 2007 a total of more than 160,000 Belarussian children received pectin food additives during 18 to 25
        days of treatment (5 g twice a day).”

        “As a result, levels of Cs-137 in children’s organs decreased after each
        course of pectin additives by an average of 30 to 40%.”

        Source of Protocol
        Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2009 Nov ;1181:303-10. PMID: 20002057
        Abstract Authors:
        Alexey V Nesterenko, Vassily B Nesterenko
        Article Affiliation:Institute of Radiation Safety (BELRAD), 2-nd Marusinsky St. 27, Minsk 220053, Belarus. anester@mail.ru


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  • Five hidden dangers of Facebook (Q&A)

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20004511-83.html

    Facebook claims that it has 400 million users. But are they well-protected from prying eyes, scammers, and unwanted marketers?

    Not according to Joan Goodchild, senior editor of CSO (Chief Security Officer) Online.
    She says your privacy may be at far greater risk of being violated than you know, when you log onto the social-networking site, due to security gaffes or marketing efforts by the company.
    Facebook came under fire this past week, when 15 privacy and consumer protection organizations filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, charging that the site, among other things, manipulates privacy settings to make users’ personal information available for commercial use. Also, some Facebook users found their private chats accessible to everyone on their contact list–a major security breach that’s left a lot of people wondering just how secure the site is.
    In two words, asserts Goodchild: not very.
    On “The Early Show on Saturday Morning,” Goodchild spotlighted five dangers she says Facebook users expose themselves to, probably without being aware of them:
    Your information is being shared with third parties
    Privacy settings revert to a less safe default mode after each redesign
    Facebook ads may contain malware
    Your real friends unknowingly make you vulnerable
    Scammers are creating fake profiles

    Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20004511-83.html#ixzz1Rx8ti9dX


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  • brydie

    Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking. I mean it is a total media blackout. No news about the drums, no news about the nuke plant and the flood…just gone.


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  • What’s the best non-Google search engine?


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  • Trying to figure out possible causes for our perpetually grey skies up here.

    Wondering if it has anything to do with Cesium, which breaks down into Barium – used for cloud seeding, and a possible cause for Multiple Sclerosis. Or is it Cesium mixing with Iodine to produce Cesium Chloride, which acts like silver iodide (used in cloud seeding):

    http://www.suite101.com/content/radiation-danger-from-nuclear-power-plant-emissions-a359442

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/58699371/Barium-Poisoning-Study
    ———————–
    Talked about previously on enenews:

    Cesium chloride is used by terrorists for bioterrorism and is the main form of Cesium from Fukushima – highly carcinogenic. It is also formed when Cesium and Iodine mix with salt from the ocean. So, I would theorize, if there is cesium chloride now in the ocean it could get taken up as rain and fall down on our heads. Cesium chloride acts like silver iodide (used in cloud-seeding to make clouds).

    http://enenews.com/carnegie-experts-real-possibility-additional-significant-radioactive-releases-fukushima

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    U N C O R R E C T E DP R O O F
    2
    Chronic barium intoxication disrupts
    3
    sulphated proteoglycan synthesis: a hypothesis
    4
    for the origins of multiple sclerosis
    5
    Mark Purdey
    *
    6
    High Barn Farm, Elworthy, Taunton, Somerset TA43PX, UK
    Received 20 November 2003; accepted 23 December 2003
    Summary
    High level contamination by natural and industrial sources of the alkali earth metal, barium (Ba) has beenidentified in the ecosystems/workplaces that are associated with high incidence clustering of multiple sclerosis (MS)and other neurodegenerative diseases such as the transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) and amyotrophiclateral sclerosis (ALS). Analyses of ecosystems supporting the most renowned MS clusters in Saskatchewan, Sardinia,Massachusetts, Colorado, Guam, NE Scotland demonstrated consistently elevated levels of Ba in soils (mean: 1428ppm) and vegetation (mean: 74 ppm) in relation to mean levels of 345 and 19 ppm recorded in MS-free regionsadjoining. The high levels of Ba stemmed from local quarrying for Ba ores and/or use of Ba in paper/foundry/welding/textile/oil and gas well related industries, as well as from the use of Ba as an atmospheric aerosol spray for enhancing/refracting the signalling of radio/radar waves along military jet flight paths, missile test ranges, etc.It is proposed that chronic contamination of the biosystem with the reactive types of Ba salts can initiate thepathogenesis of MS; due to the conjugation of Ba with free sulphate, which subsequently deprives the endogenoussulphated proteoglycan molecules (heparan sulfates) of their sulphate co partner, thereby disrupting synthesis of
    S
    -proteoglycans and their crucial role in the fibroblast growth factor (FGF) signalling which induces oligodendrocyteprogenitors to maintain the growth and structural integrity of the myelin sheath. Loss of
    S
    -proteoglycan activity ex-plains other key facets of MS pathogenesis; such as the aggregation of platelets and the proliferation of superoxidegenerated oxidative stress. Ba intoxications disturb the sodium–potassium ion pump – another key feature of the MSprofile. The co-clustering of various neurodegenerative diseases in these Ba-contaminated ecosystems suggests thatthe pathogenesis of all of these diseases could pivot upon a common disruption of the sulphated proteoglycan-growthfactor mediated signalling systems. Individual genetics dictates which specific disease emerges at the end of the day


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    • Shit, almost missed that bit:

      …as well as from the use of Ba as an atmospheric aerosol spray for enhancing/refracting the signalling of radio/radar waves along military jet flight paths, missile test ranges, etc.


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      • Elenin Velikovsky Elenin Velikovsky

        Pluto239, I assume you are well familiar
        with works of Clifford Carnicom? Chemtrail xpert.
        carnicom.com
        also article
        “electrolysis & barium”….
        just searching Carnicom and Barium brings up
        a lotta stuff.
        college younguns don’t know how lucky they are
        to be able to copy-paste, quote, cite, biliography,
        and print so easily….


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    • milk and cheese milk and cheese

      When did terrorists ever use cesium for bioterrorism? I think we don’t need the terrorists at this rate, ‘our side’ is doing a good enough job by themselves.


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  • StillJill StillJill

    Am I the only one experiencing leg cramps,….nocturnally? Do I recall correctly that cesium attacks our muscles, and strontium our bones? Insomnia is up also.


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    • milk and cheese milk and cheese

      A little good news, StillJill. That might be nothing more than a vitamin deficiency. I had leg cramps at night for years until I started taking B vitamins, calcium, and especially magnesium. And magnesium is found in chocolate, so have some (dark) chocolate before bed, get some supplements…and the pains should stop.


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    • Take vit, D & potassium & Magnesium


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    • VanneV anne

      I get plenty of calcium and magnesium and B vitamin supplements and was still getting leg cramps at night. I started drinking baking soda dissolved in water even though my diet is very alkaline, and the leg cramps have gone away. I don’t give out advice, but on this website I read that baking soda helps remove radioactivity and cancer cannot live in alkalinity. I only experiment on myself. You could ask a doctor.


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      • Thanks Anne ♥,

        Seems baking soda is the cure.

        I’ve had cramps for about a year now.

        Crimping the Cramps
        http://www.justgetout.net/Wenatchee/20037

        Mentions baking soda:
        http://www.ehow.com/how_4449466_relieve-leg-cramps.html

        Actually, I get cramps in my sides mostly.

        I had it the last hour and was forced to bring on the heavy machinery:

        Konig Ludwig Weissbier

        Well, it tastes good [wee burp there...excuse me], and the cramp somehow went away!

        I gather a wee infusion of tetrahydrocannibinol may achieve even greater results. Studies to be conducted shortly.

        :D

        Tetrahydrocannabinol ( /ˌtɛtrəˌhaɪdrɵkəˈnæbɨnɒl/ tet-rə-hy-drə-kə-nab-i-nol; THC), also known as delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ9-THC), Δ1-THC (using an older chemical nomenclature), or dronabinol, is the main psychoactive substance found in the cannabis plant.
        It was first isolated in 1964.[4][5][6] In pure form, it is a glassy solid when cold, and becomes viscous and sticky if warmed. An aromatic terpenoid, THC has a very low solubility in water, but good solubility in most organic solvents.
        Like most pharmacologically-active secondary metabolites of plants, THC in cannabis is assumed to be involved in self-defense, perhaps against herbivores.[7] THC also possesses high UV-B (280-315 nm) absorption properties, which, it has been speculated, could protect the plant from harmful UV radiation exposure.[8][9][10]
        Dronabinol is the International Nonproprietary Name (INN) for a pure isomer of THC, (-)-trans-Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol, that is, the main isomer in cannabis.[11] It is sold as Marinol (a registered trademark of Solvay Pharmaceuticals). Dronabinol is also marketed, sold, and distributed by PAR Pharmaceutical Companies under the terms of a license and distribution agreement with SVC pharma LP, an affiliate of Rhodes Technologies.


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      • milk and cheese milk and cheese

        anne, the Colorado plateau has a higher level of background radiation than most places due to the altitude or something…so you may be getting a double dose. I am glad that your protocol is working.
        I take turmeric too and use apple cider vinegar and bentonite clay in drinks.


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  • Radiation Detectors for Less than $50
    [connects to iPhone, iPad, iPod]

    Another Great Kickstarter Project To Measure Japan Radiation

    by RICK MARTIN on JULY 13, 2011 in ASIA, CREATIVE, TECH

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    Many of you are probably familiar with the DIY geiger counter Kickstarter project from the people over at Safecast.org. In cooperation with Tokyo Hackerspace, the $36,900 they raised was used build geiger counters that since April 16 have collected over 250,000 data points. Today I came across a similar project that’s also worthy of attention: the Smart Radiation Detector project.

    This project, organized by Radiation-watch.org, takes a slightly different approach, connecting a small radiation detector via your iPhone’s audio jack:

    We are going to manufacture and sell the Smart Radiation Detector connected with iPhone / iPod Touch / iPad via microphone input, at a low price less than fifty dollars by using cheap PIN Photo-diode instead of expensive Geiger-Muller Tube to detect beta and gamma radiation. The actual electronic circuit is so simply it fits inside a match box or a FRISK mint-box, without battery.

    The resultant device uses an iOS app, of which there are free and pro versions – though I’m puzzled as to why they’d restrict features in the free version. I’m not sure if there is any plan to build in a “send data to Pachube” feature, but I think that it would certainly be helpful to get more readings into that pool.


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  • AustralianCannonball

    This is my video analysis that shows the park asuperdry got the soil from as well as the report. I have been so busy I didn’t even know enenews had this yet!. We just want to get this out(I have been working with asuperdry on many things in Japan):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS57otEiNA8


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Holy bejesus, WTF is our government?
    With all that is going on in this world,
    they are talking bullshit, gobblygook, doublespeak, about how much money they can (because they can!) spend.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3zBw7vmzzc&feature=player_embedded

    Mitch, freakin doesn’t make any sense at all, trying to explain the bullshit game they are playing.

    I think were alone now…

    Happy thoughts!


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Anonymous spaffs Monsanto employees’ details
    Targets Canadian oil sands for ‘Tarmageddon’, too

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/13/anonymous_monsanto_hack/

    In related news, Anonymous said it planned to attack oil firms and banks supporting the controversial extraction of oil from sand in Alberta, Canada. Exxon Mobil, ConocoPhillips, Canadian Oil Sands, Imperial Oil, and the Royal Bank of Scotland have been put on notice that they are likely to be targeted in Anonymous’ latest operation, dubbed Project Tarmageddon.

    I say they start Project Atomageddon…


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    • milk and cheese milk and cheese

      Armageddon outtahere.
      Sorry…


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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      I must say, I have more and more sympathy for those anonymous folks (also I find it a bit creepy, as they’re so…anonymous).
      Some farmers in India took more direct action on Monsanto by severely beating up one of their representatives lately(and the governor didn’t come to his rescue, hehe).
      LIKE


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      • Anonymous is an idea.

        Everyone on the planet is essentially an anonymous members.

        The movie: “V is for vendetta” is their basic image…

        People call them criminals because they seek to expose corruption in corporation…

        Go figure eh…


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    • arclight arclight

      so the idea to chuck loads of gold on the coriniuae doesnt sound so bad now….anyone bought gold? oops!
      a story about radioactive silver would do just about right now…i feel were on our way to the max keiser site(not) hahahaa lololol…..well you cant take it with you!!lol


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      • arclight arclight

        max watch out boy were coming to get you!
        South Korea today reported that traces of radioactive silver had been found in the atmosphere, apparently emanating from fuel rods at Japan’s stricken nuclear plant.
        http://www.deccanherald.com/content/150865/skorea-detects-radioactive-silver.html
        Environmental impact of radioactive silver released from nuclear power plant (with report)
        “Radioactive silver 110mAg is not a fission product, but as a contaminant originating from Chernobyl, was registered in many European countries. The environmental impact of radioactive silver was specially expressed in the process of obtaining copper and noble metals from ores originating from opencast mines. Direct consequence was contaminated metal silver in the period of several years after the Chernobyl accident. It was shown that radioactive silver originating from nuclear plants, present in the environment in small concentrations due to the high concentration degrees (104-106) can cause high contamination in the process of the production of metal silver. Experts responsible for the functioning of nuclear power plants should have these facts in mind if they are using silver compounds in reactor core influence area.”
        http://www.springerlink.com/content/l77118w6505083w5/
        Land Disposal Restrictions: National Treatment Variance To Designate New Treatment Subcategories for Radioactively Contaminated Cadmium-, Mercury-, and Silver-Containing Batteries
        A Rule by the Environmental Protection Agency on 10/07/2002
        “Macroencapsulation in accordance with the provisions for treatment standards for hazardous debris is designated as the required treatment prior to land disposal for the new waste subcategories. This will allow safe disposal of these radioactively contaminated materials.”
        http://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2002/10/07/02-25414/land-disposal-restrictions-national-treatment-variance-to-designate-new-treatment-subcategories-for#p-3
        those fires and flooding come to mind on this one!!
        And finally this…..also about some background machinations by the nuke lobby, didn’t work then. Anyone got an update on this court ruling? Was it reversed or acted on? Funny what you can come up with sometimes? Huh? Also relevant to the fires and flooding! Short and to the point!
        http://www.committeetobridgethegap.org/pdf/press/deregulation/041602.pdf
        kinda like old max and stacy, good info (non non nuclear, not even the financial ramifacations of nuclear…thank god for zero hedge….errrrrr, sort off!!


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  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    Boycott Olympics…. what are they thinking?? How will they evacuate if more poop hits the fan…
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iGqfZNTqVk5IHLg-l4dWtz5XiljQ?docId=CNG.0806430ed0584173c35d5088579e2ad0.a1

    and the French? Obviously shills for Areva..
    http://www.saigon-gpdaily.com.vn/International/2011/7/94658/


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    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      “France moves Japan Bastille Day party to Fukushima”
      Catalysmic, excellent post! Thanks.
      I find it HILARIOUS that the French Minister in the picture was offered A PEACH!!!!
      Look at his smile! (thinking: you don’t think I’m eating this, right)
      this is just too much.


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      • charlie3

        I’m sure that they had some clean safe nuke-free peaches brought in from elsewhere for the guests to bite into.


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      • moonkai

        Today I am ashamed to be French. I cannot believe they threw this little parade on the 14th of July ! Shame on them. A lot of my “friends” actually went there. Screw them. We are writting a letter to our ambassador to tell him and the French minister to go fuck themselves and to tell them that instead of playing clows in a sinister area, they should rather force the Japanese govt to evacuate all these poor souls !!


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  • livelife

    OT – to xdrfox, I notice you are on many forums with a wealth of knowledge regarding the GOM. What do you make of this???? 100+ degree temp spike in GOM. From Dutchsinse youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMKc2NiLhJU&feature=feedu

    THANK you to everyone who posts on here, I check this every day, just so sad at about it all! I share with my friends and no one wants to hear it. All I can do is take care of my family. Hugs to all! Keep up the good work!


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    • This video talks a bit about why there might be a massive temperature rise. Probably others too, none of it good news:

      Silenced Scientists Speak Out on Gulf of Mexico
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go8mki7NpQw&feature=related


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    • @ livelife
      Last I had heard from a number of sources that the GOM was 7° above normal but this has been a while back, With the Gulf Stream not flowing through the gulf as per stopping last summer, it was know prior the stream was slowing for a number of years, now the cool waters that normally come from the winter waters from South America winter are not cooling the gulf !
      The warming waters can and may fuel rapidly if storms go over the gulf and may cause increased storms size and speeds since storm feed off warm waters ! Bigger Storms !

      A big concern that many have shared is that this will cause contaminated waters to agitate stirring up the oil that rest on the bottom of areas in the gulf onto lands and populations and this could Leed to many problems complicating the already dire situation we have now in the gulf and far beyond !


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  • Auntie Nuke

    I live in LA and have shopped in Santa Monica. This is a very vague report. Where were the peaches bought? Where were they sourced (grown)? What variety – white, yellow, donut? Were any other stone fruit tested? And how many peaches were tested to come up with the 2?

    For now, stone fruit join my list of what I will not eat. This is only going to get worse. No wonder the FDA won’t test; they won’t like the results.


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  • Elevated levels in Kauai[recent]

    Update: 7/6/2011, 7:50 A.M. – Kauai Radiation Alert – again

    After some investigation, we can now confirm that the Kauai Monitoring Station in Hawaii broadcast yet another Radiation Alert recently (see graph at right), commencing toward midnight of June 29th and continuing into the early morning hours of June 30th. This is becoming somewhat of a routine event for the Kauai station, considering elevated radiation detections twice before, on June 10th and June 22nd (see Updates below).

    This most recent Alert was triggered by a detection of over 100 CPM (Counts per Minute) for a sustained period of almost 15 minutes, followed by lower, yet elevated radiation levels for another half hour, making this the longest detection period yet for the Kauai station (clear sky this time – no rain). Background radiation for that station approximates 37 CPM, so these sustained levels were 2 to 3 times normal. Again, our best judgment is that the source of this radiation is probably Fukushima, perhaps from recent “releases” – we will try to correlate.

    This detection by the Kauai station brings up an interesting and related story.

    A few days before the recent alert, the station operator was remounting the external probe of the Geiger counter under the eaves of the structure, and unwittingly scanned the roof shingles themselves, only to discover an elevated reading at a sustained rate of easily twice normal background. Moving the probe in closer proximity to the shingled roof returned more frequent audible clicking, confirming the shingles were the source.

    So the question is, “Why are these roof shingles emitting radiation – is it because of contamination over time by rainfall precipitating it own radioactive particles, or are the shingles themselves ‘hot’?”

    To answer this, the station operator scanned a pile of surplus shingles in storage that had never been exposed to the rain, and found them to also set off the Geiger counter. So while we do not think of shingles as being radioactive, because they are often “composition”, of stone-based products in part, any one sample can be slightly radioactive.

    This story serves as a lesson – when scanning captured rainwater for potential radioactive contamination, do not harvest it off any stone-based roofing material lest you get a false signal.


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  • Ah yes, if the news blackout doesn’t do it, let’s try the “pretend” game:

    U.S. military expected to lift ban on Japanese foods soon

    http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/japan/u-s-military-expected-to-lift-ban-on-japanese-foods-soon-1.149253


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  • matina matina

    moonkai do not be ashamed to be french, there are some amazing people in france like the team in CRIIRAD the only independent voice in Europe about radiation measurement and prevention……read their latest report:

    The first
    results revealed a massive contamination on several food samples. As an example, spinach
    sampled in Ibaraki prefecture on March 18th confirmed a contamination of 54 000 Bq/kg
    with iodine 131. The CRIIRAD calculated that for a child aged between 2 to 7 years old, the
    consumption of 200 grams of spinach delivers a dose exceeding the annual dose limit of 1
    milliSievert. Additional results published later showed that iodine 131 contamination found
    in grass collected in Iitate about 40 km north-west of Fukushima Daiichi reached 2.5 million
    Bq/kg. The contamination of vegetables in the area has certainly been very high. It should be noted that for a child aged 2 to 7 years old, the mere consumption of 5 grams of such
    foods will deliver a dose exceeding 1 milliSievert. The authorities should have advised
    people, without delay on March 12TH , not to consume foods most at risk in areas where the
    radioactive fallouts were detected by gamma air dose monitors (this includes locations such
    as Onagawa, 100 km north of Fukushima, and Tokyo about 230 km south of the Fukushima
    Daiichi nuclear plant). Conversely, the Japanese authorities claimed that consuming such
    contaminated foods was the same as receiving a dose from a scanner.

    http://www.criirad.org/actualites/dossier2011/japon_bis/en_anglais/criirad11-47ejapan.pdf


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  • jump-ball

    Full moon today, two 5 plus Pacific EQs in the last hour, CA San Andreas system acting up a bit.

    My ‘P-Wave’ detector is ready to beep.

    Wonder how many Japanese had p-wave warnings: with a 9.0 200 or so miles from Tokyo, you would have had around a minute warning of the following horizontal ground shake.


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    • irradiated californian

      basing earthquakes on the moon itself and nothing else is a foolhardy way to go. the moon in actuality has much less of a gravitational pull than people think…there’a lot more that goes into it than you’re putting into it.


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      • Steven Steven

        Are the tides not created by the gravitational bond twixt earth and moon? Not supporting jump-ball or otherwise, just saying…. if the force is enough to move the oceans about then maybe it could also place extra stress on tektonic plates. The more mass the more effect, yes?

        More info needed from both parties here. Interesting stuff :)


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  • Killer Sunflowers Invade Japan

    [I should work for the National Enquirer]

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/8640273/Sunflowers-heal-soil-across-nuclear-hit-Fukushima.html

    And, where to put those radioactive sunflowers afterwards?


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  • StillJill StillJill

    How about the FACT that my two dogs, and roommates 3, are ALERTING,…out here in Cali? They ONLY do this for firecrackers, thunder, or earthquakes! No thunder or boom boom firecrackers????


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  • Japanese invent flying orb

    Might be an improvement over Honeywell’s little helicopter (which crashed):

    http://www.reuters.com/video/2011/07/14/flying-sphere-goes-where-man-fears-to-tr?videoId=217093066&videoChannel=2602


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  • Noah

    If you want to bear children in a contaminated environment

    Radioactive C-137 continues to accumulate within the food chain, water and environment. The lessons of Hiroshima & Nagasaki, Bikini Atoll, Chernobyl and Iraq, clearly indicate that to attempt to conceive, gestate and bear children in an area contaminated with low levels of radiation is a gamble. (See Petkau Effect)

    It would be unwise to bet your future children on the hope that they will be unharmed.

    If you want to bear children,
    among the options you must consider in your thinking:

    1. Move Away
    2.Evacuation 3. Relocation
    4. Migration

    These four options are proven effective historically and medically to reduce the chances that your baby will be harmed and in no way intended to make fun of a very serious situation.

    IMPORTANT QUESTION: Because no one else is moving away, does that mean that radiation is now safe for your baby?

    You are strong, you are smart, now think for your baby!

    First think, then decide, then act.


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  • StillJill StillJill

    The dogs are trying to get under ‘things’, try to barge their way into a safe person’s room, (mine),…panting, pacing, quite agitated. They are better this evening however. But there was DEFINITELY something unseen bothering them for the past 24 hours!


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  • StillJill StillJill

    Noah,….where is safe? I am beyond childbearing years, but a recent cancer survivor. I truly believe that if I thought there was someplace safe, and doable,….I’d make the leap of faith! I’ve done (it) three or four,..five, six,..times in my life,…and I’m fortunate that I KNOW the net appears! But,…I need a carrot. To move, be lonly, and STILL DIE would suck on ice!


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  • StillJill StillJill

    lonely,…sorry spelling police


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  • StillJill StillJill

    “sniff sniff” is right! I don’t know why the roommate’s dog’s seek me when they are scared, but they do. Something has them spooked. But, two neighbor cats were ‘munched’ by something this week. (It) marked everywhere–and birds are dive bombing me lately too. I swear the smart creatures KNOW!


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    • My cat is back to normal, was under the weather there for a couple of months, been speeding most nights with me sleeping by the bed. Haven’t seen animals behaving odd in Fl. but you are getting hit harder in Ca.
      Are you getting out enough ?


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  • StillJill StillJill

    …..and that goes for humans too! :-)


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    • I went across town today to the doc, very bad looking clouds to the west, figured it would pass while in the doc’s, Went to the drugs store PK after the first clouds dropped buckets, but leaving the drugs store, the bottom fell out on me puttin along on my M/C. God it was coming down sheet’s of rain puddles 5″ deep splash soak, splash soak,…mumble words of discorn… pulled into the carport a sponge soaked,,, running down the hall weight 10 lbs more then I left,…lol …water in the door, down the hall, drip, drip,…showered gathered some new warm cloth and set at the puter with some warm friends,.. Everything is A OK !
      : )


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Hmm, Maybe too little, too late…

    Fukushima to scrap nuclear plants
    Prefecture vows to shift from atomic to renewable energy

    http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110716a4.html


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  • AustralianCannonball

    School yard radiation. Just made this video now:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQEMv7Hedww


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  • connectingdots sez radioactive rain in NW today. risabee

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZZVlGrBp2c&feature=share

    Indoors is good. Well water is good. 2010 food is good. Don’t worry, be happy.


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    • Novamind

      Great Video! Yes it is raining in the Pacific Northwest today, and forecast for all next week with some rain breaks.
      Seems to have something to do with all these never ending Chemtrails creating low pressure areas and rain to wash the radiation down and out of the Air! Anything but a normal summer.


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      • We know Cesium-137 breaks down into Barium-137, and Barium is used in cloud-seeding.

        Also, Cesium-137 forms Cesium-Chloride (when it mixes with Iodine from the ocean), which acts like silver iodide (used in cloud seeding).

        Plus, they’re likely chemtrailing on top of all that.

        Maybe that’s why the skies up here are so grey?


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        • Jebus Jebus

          Not to mention millions of tons of violatile hydrocarbons and COREEXIT in the atmosphere from the BP Disaster…

          Anybody else notice the irony that BP sprayed(or is spraying) coreexit and fukushima’s cores exited…?


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          • Jebus Jebus

            Corexit

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corexit

            Toxicity

            The relative toxicity of Corexit and other dispersants are difficult to determine due to a scarcity of scientific data.[4] The manufacturer’s safety data sheet states “No toxicity studies have been conducted on this product,” and later concludes “The potential human hazard is: Low.”[21] According to the manufacturer’s website, workers applying Corexit should wear breathing protection and work in a ventilated area.[22] Compared with 12 other dispersants listed by the EPA, Corexit 9500 and 9527 are either similarly toxic or 10 to 20 times more toxic.[8] In another preliminary EPA study of eight different dispersants, Corexit 9500 was found to be less toxic to some marine life than other dispersants and to break down within weeks, rather than settling to the bottom of the ocean or collecting in the water.[23] None of the eight products tested are “without toxicity”, according to an EPA administrator, and the ecological effect of mixing the dispersants with oil is unknown, as is the toxicity of the breakdown products of the dispersant.[23]

            Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[15][24] The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[25] According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people “respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders”.[17] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also cause internal bleeding.[5]

            According to the EPA, Corexit is more toxic than dispersants made by several competitors and less effective in handling southern Louisiana crude.[26] On May 19, 2010, the EPA ordered BP to change to a different dispersant than Corexit, or to produce a report within 24 hours on alternatives considered and reasons for their rejection.[27] BP took the latter option, sending its report the next day.[28] On May 26, the EPA told BP to reduce the use of dispersants; surface use was prohibited unless a request for exemption in specific circumstances was granted, while subsurface use was capped at 15,000 gallons per day.[29]

            Reportedly Corexit may be toxic to marine life and helps keep spilled oil submerged. There is concern that the quantities used in the Gulf will create ‘unprecedented underwater damage to organisms.’[30] Nalco spokesman Charlie Pajor said that oil mixed with Corexit is “more toxic to marine life, but less toxic to life along the shore and animals at the surface” because the dispersant allows the oil to stay submerged below the surface of the water.[31] Corexit 9500 causes oil to form into small droplets in the water; fish may be harmed when they eat these droplets.[5] According to its Material safety data sheet, Corexit may also bioaccumulate, remaining in the flesh and building up over time.[32] Thus predators who eat smaller fish with the toxin in their systems may end up with much higher levels in their flesh.[5]

            We could start another website with this!!! But no one would listen…


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    • He also says levels in Victoria, B.C. (where I am) were 3 times safe levels.


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  • ocifferdave

    How many have already watched this video titled “S.O.S. From Fukushima Japan Locals- Our Children Are Trapped In RADIATION! Mirror THIS!” ?:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z9pkNyfHCA


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    • Jebus Jebus

      Iodine, just Iodine-131, 8 day halflife…
      What about the other 50 or so fission byproducts that are orders of magnitude more dangerous?


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      • I agree, she leaves out hot particles and all the other isotopes as if they don’t exist.

        Also, misses out bioaccumulation, damage to oceans, fish, rice, beef and the dire condition of the plant as it stands currently.

        Also doesn’t explain why global monitors have been turned off.


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    • Jebus Jebus

      “As of now, the levels we’re seeing are not harmful to humans,” Starosta said in the release. “We’re basing this on Japanese studies following the Chernobyl incident in 1986 where levels of iodine-131 were four times higher than what we’ve detected in our rainwater so far.”

      That right there makes this article shilled…


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  • Nuclear deal between Japan-India in Peril

    N-deal with Japan in limbo
    Ashok Tuteja/TNS
    http://www.tribuneindia.com/2011/20110718/main5.htm


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  • Jebus Jebus

    We can’t live with Nuclear, But,
    We CAN live without Nuclear…

    Nuclear Disconnect-1

    http://environmentalresearchweb.org/blog/2011/07/nuclear-disconnect-1.html

    For the past 14 years, Italy, the world’s seventh largest economy, has done without nuclear, so it should not be hard to maintain this stance. It already gets 22.2% of its power from renewables (the UK is at 8%) and has become a leader in PV solar -Italy is currently the world’s second largest market for solar PV, following Germany. Other renewable are also moving ahead in Italy: wind energy currently provides nearly 5% of supply, with 5.8 GW installed by the beginning of last year – more than the UK.

    Germany is of course in the front globally in most areas – with for example 27GW of wind capacity already in place . The German energy plan produced in 2010 called for renewables to supply 35% of electricity by 2020, upgrading the previous target of 30% renewable electricity by 2020. But in fact Germany’s official National Renewable Energy Action Plan produced for the EU, said it expects to actually generate 38% of its electricity from renewables by 2020.

    All that was before Fukushima and the German government policy shift to return to a rapid nuclear phase out – by 2022. It’s been said that the aim now is to get to 35% from renewables by then, but clearly it could be more. Indeed an agency (UBA) within the German Ministry of the Environment, has produced a report saying that Germany can close all its reactors by 2017 and keep the lights on by faster development of its renewable sources of energy and the construction of 5,000 MW of new gas-fired generation.

    The German UBA Environment Agency estimates that a rapid exit from nuclear will cost ratepayers only €0.006 to €0.008 per kilowatt-hour. This increase is, UBA says, less than the price swings of natural gas and coal during the past year. Interestingly, as energy analyst Paul Gipe has noted, the higher market price for electricity will reduce the cost of Germany’s renewable energy programme by decreasing the differential between the market price of electricity and the average cost of feed-in tariffs for renewable energy.

    Similar shifts have happened elsewhere in Europe. The Swiss government had backed a nuclear expansion programme but after Fukushima 25,000 Swiss attended an anti-nuke demo, and in June the Cabinet decided against new build- in effect supporting a phase out programme as its old plants retire.

    With Austria, Denmark, Portugal, Norway, Ireland and Greece all stead-fastly non-nuclear, and phase out programmes in Spain, and (at least until they get a government back in place) Belgium, that leaves the UK, France and Finland, along with Sweden and some ex Soviet EU countries, as the main EU countries in support. Problems have been mounting in Finland, with its EPR programme being 50% over budget and years behind schedule, and a new tax on nuclear being levied, and if the consensus in France is shifting, it could leave the UK isolated. No wonder then that the French and Germany nuclear companies are looking to the UK as a safe haven for new nuclear projects- with the Con Dem coalition offering enthusiastic support.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    German energy study offers framework for Japanese policy chaos

    http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nb20110718ve.html

    Pure chaos is reigning over Japanese energy policy and the future of its nuclear power industry.


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