FORUM: Discussion Thread for June 10 – June 16, 2011

Published: June 10th, 2011 at 7:59 am ET


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Published: June 10th, 2011 at 7:59 am ET


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291 comments to FORUM: Discussion Thread for June 10 – June 16, 2011

  • Anthony Anthony

    China Puts Nuclear Power Plans on Hold
    Jun. 15 2011 – 11:39 pm Kenneth Rapoza
    BRIC Breaker
    China is putting its expansive nuclear power plans on hold. The decision comes after months of deliberations and soul searching after the Japanese nuclear disaster at the Fukushima power plant in March had the whole world turning against nuclear energy. German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the company would go nuke free by 2022.

    China isn’t going to follow in Merkel’s footsteps. It is currently drafting new safety measures before approving any new facilities, Li Ganjie, deputy minister of the Ministry of Environmental Protection, told China reporters this week.

    China has 13 nuclear power plants in operation and another 28 under construction. Li told reporters in China tha the country should have another 100 nuke power plants up and running by 2020.

    Nuclear power is a clean burning fuel. It’s biggest environmental risk is disposal of nuclear waste, and its biggest public risk is the potential for nuclear meltdown accidents.

    New nuclear power projects underway.
    China: 28
    Russia: 11
    India: 5
    Brazil: 1
    USA: 1
    World Total: 65
    Power Generation Capacity: 63 Gigawatts*
    *assuming 1 gigawatt can power a city of 700,000, then new projects will power the homes of 44.1 million worldwide.

    Nuclear Power Reactors Globally
    Of the 442* power stations worldwide, the US has the most. A look at the US vs the BRIC nations.

    USA: 104
    Russia: 32
    India: 20
    China: 13
    Brazil: 2

    *Avg power station generates 1 gigawatt of electricity. Assuming each power station does that amount, then 442 gigawatts is enough to provide electricity to 309.4 million people.

    Source: International Atomic Energy Agency

  • Anthony Anthony

    Enec’s chief executive hosts public debate on nuclear power

    April Yee
    Jun 16, 2011
    Enec will tonight address concerns members of the public may have following the travails faced by the Japanese nuclear sector. Seokyong Lee / Penta Press

    The government company charged with building the UAE’s nuclear reactors is opening its first formal dialogue with the public in the capital since the disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi atomic plant in north-east Japan.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Water Shortages Threatening France’s Nuclear Reactor Complex

    Written by John Daly
    Thursday, 16 June 2011 12:31

  • Anthony Anthony

    Italy says no to nuclear for second time
    june 16, 2011

    At the end of 2010, Italy had an installed wind energy capacity of 5,797 MW, similar to that of the UK and France.

    Italy says no to nuclear for second time
    Hot on the heels of Germany’s decision to abandon nuclear power by 2022 comes an announcement from Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi that Italy will have to give up its plans to revive nuclear power, concentrating on renewable energy instead.

    “We shall have to say good-bye to nuclear,” he said on Monday.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Nuclear generation rise in 2010
    15 June 2011

    The total amount of electricity generated by nuclear powers plants around the world increased in 2010 following three consecutive years of decline. However, a sharp drop in output is foreseen for 2011 as a result of the Fukushima accident.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Japan to Detail Plans on Additional Evacuations Around Nuclear Plant
    Wednesday, June 15, 2011

    Japan on Wednesday said it would in the near future announce plans for potentially removing residents from additional locations with high radioactivity following the Fukushima Daiichi plant disaster, Kyodo News reported (see GSN, June 14).

    Plant operator Tokyo Electric Power has battled to prevent radioactive contaminants from escaping the six-reactor Fukushima facility following a March 11 earthquake and tsunami that left more than 20,000 people dead or missing in Japan. Radiation releases on a level not seen since the 1986 Chernobyl disaster have already forced the evacuation of about 80,000 residents from a 12-mile ring around the facility.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Nuclear Twilight in Europe
    Written by John Daly
    Wednesday, 15 June 2011 13:18

  • Anthony Anthony

    Daily news: Japanese government has still to learn from Fukushima’s lesson and Italy realises the power of social media
    Blogpost by Gianluca R – June 15, 2011 at 14:56 1 comment

    Top news: Japan’s economy minister wants to make nuclear power central to Japanese energy portfolio; Social media plays key roles in Italian referendums; and, Chinese government admit they are growing GM rice.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Are We on the Brink of Burying Nuke Power Forever?

    By Harvey Wasserman

  • Anthony Anthony

    Three-quarters of Japanese favor nuclear power phase-out
    Published : Tuesday, June 14th, 2011
    By : Reuters

    Nearly three-quarters of Japanese voters want to see a gradual phase-out of nuclear power, a newspaper poll showed on Tuesday, the latest sign of concerns about atomic safety as the country struggles with the world’s worst nuclear crisis in 25 years.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Japanese shares up on TEPCO rebound

    June 15 2011, 4:45PM

    Tokyo shares closed 0.28 per cent higher, as gains on Wall Street lifted sentiment, while the continued rebound of Tokyo Electric Power also boosted the major index.

  • Granny M

    Unit 1 hits 263 Sv/h seems to be on a 2 day spike . 2 day slump cycle with extremes increasing.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Blockade plan to halt ‘nuclear renaissance’ in Somerset
    Thursday, June 16, 2011

    BRIDGWATER is set to be the national focus of one of the biggest protests seen against nuclear power in this country.

    Anti-nuclear campaigners are joining forces to blockade Hinkley Point nuclear power plant.

  • Anthony Anthony

    China drafts safety plan for n-plants
    Jun 16, 2011

    Beijing, June 16 (IANS) China was greatly concerned over the crisis at the Fukushima nuclear power plant in Japan, and was now drafting a new safety plan for its own plants, an official said.

    **China has 13 nuclear generators that are in commercial operation and 28 that are under construction. Li said that by 2020 there will be more than 100 generators.**

  • Testing something here…just ignore:

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      how is THAT done??

      • You will be seeing it a lot in coming times !

      • Have to use HTML entities.



        To display a less than sign we must write: < or <
        [not sure if this’ll display properly]

        E.g. to display a swastika: type an ampersand then a number sign then 21325 then a semicolon [altogether, no spaces].

        Some entities use words instead of numbers. E.g. to type an em dash (a long dash) you type an ampersand then the word emdash then a semicolon [no spaces].

        You can use Alt-numpad #’s to do other characters. E.g. Alt-3 [turn on numlock] to do a heart.

        Here’s an example:
        卍—I ♥ TEPCO.

        • Above didn’t display quite right.

          To display a less than sign, you have to write:

          an ampersand
          [no spaces]

          To display a radiation sign, you need:

          an ampersand
          a number sign (octothorpe)

          …all typed on one line with no spaces.

          To get a smiley face, you have to type a

          D [capital D]


    • special ascii characters.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Analysis: Risks too great for full Japan nuclear shutdown
    Thu, Jun 9 2011

    By Chikako Mogi

    TOKYO | Thu Jun 9, 2011 8:53am EDT

    (Reuters) – Economic risks are too high for Japan to pull the plug on its 54 nuclear plants next year despite intense public pressure on Tokyo to cut reliance on atomic power in favor of other clean energy sources.

    Unless Tokyo overrides resistance from local officials, orders reactor restarts and faces down public disapproval, by April next year Japan’s last plant would shut for maintenance and leave the country with no nuclear power.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Special Report: After Japan, where’s the next nuclear weak link?

    By Nick Carey, Margarita Antidze and John Ruwitch

    DETROIT | Thu Jun 9, 2011 12:06pm EDT

    (Reuters) – Imagine a country where corruption is rampant, infrastructure is very poor, or the quality of security is in question. Now what if that country built a nuclear power plant?

    It may sound alarming but that is what could happen in many developing countries which are either building nuclear power plants or considering doing so – a prospect that raises serious questions after Japan’s experience handling a nuclear crisis.

    A trove of U.S. diplomatic cables obtained by WikiLeaks and provided to Reuters by a third party provide colorful and sometimes scary commentary on the conditions in developing nations with nuclear power aspirations.

    In a cable from the U.S. embassy in Hanoi in February 2007, concerns are raised about storing radioactive waste in Vietnam, which has very ambitious plans to build nuclear power plants. Le Dinh Tien, the vice minister of science and technology, is quoted as saying the country’s track record of handling such waste was “not so good” and its inventory of radioactive materials “not adequate.”

  • arclight arclight

    you gotta love reuters.. they started with good coverage of fuku for a bit….then this headline on the 9th….
    Special Report: After Japan, where’s the next nuclear weak link?
    like japan was finished,,,well the answer might be actually the USA…reuters should lay off prediction methinks!!

  • Anthony Anthony

    Nuclear Energy Program Supported by 85% of U.A.E. Residents
    By Ayesha Daya – Jun 16, 2011 10:01 AM PT


    Emirates Nuclear Energy Corp., the developer of nuclear power plants in the United Arab Emirates, said most respondents in a national poll support the country’s development of nuclear power plants.

    Of 750 residents interviewed in the country, 85 percent “believe that peaceful nuclear energy is important for the nation,” Emirates Nuclear said in a statement distributed in Abu Dhabi today.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    I’m sorry… I just can’t stand it.
    Xdrfox..might havealready posted this.. sorry if so…

    • Saw them last week, and Yes that is new Corexit on 5/29/2011

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  • Stephengn

    Fairly alarming video of just how stupid we humans really are

    I use to play a game called Missile Command that looked similar to this

    … Only this &$%# is real

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  • Tourism down 50% in Japan

    TOKYO — Foreign arrivals to Japan in May plunged by half from a year earlier, a third straight monthly drop following the quake, tsunami and nuclear disasters of March, a report said Thursday.
    The number of visitors was estimated at 358,000, down 50.4 percent from May 2010, said the state-affiliated Japan National Tourism Organisation.
    In April the total plunged by a record 62.5 percent from a year ago to 295,800 after taking a 50.3-percent dip in March.
    The massive March 11 earthquake and tsunami left more than 23,000 people dead or missing on Japan’s northeast coast and crippled a nuclear power plant that has been leaking radiation into the environment since.

    Officials stress that there is no danger from radiation in Tokyo and other popular tourist destinations such as Osaka and the ancient capital of Kyoto.

    [my italics]-to which I must add this:

    (here’s a great idea – off topic, apologies)

    Man withdraws 19 cents at a time to revenge bank

    A MAN, irritated with service at his local bank, withdrew 1 yuan (19 cents) at a time to agonise a bank worker, resulting in the police being called to resolve the conflict, the Shandong Business Daily reported.

    The young man in Jinan, Shandong province, told the paper that he found only one counter open for business when he came into the bank where five people were waiting before him.

    ‘I went to ask a worker why there was only one counter in use, but he gave a cold attitude,’ the man explained.

    The bank worker countered: ‘I don’t think he had waited that long. Only one counter open because we were having an afternoon break then.’

    As the customer kept withdrawing one yuan at a time for an hour, the bank informed the police, the paper said.

    ‘We had no other choice, because he didn’t violate any rules of the bank. The policemen came only to persuade him to stop,’ a bank worker said. ‘We hope our clients don’t take desperate actions but instead communicate with us directly.’ — CHINA DAILY/ANN

  • Anthony Anthony

    Alamos National Laboratory Develop NanoFoams- An Answer To Radiation
    Posted by Ishan Topre on June 16, 2011

    ***The interface material can be used to boost security of not only the nuclear power plants but also that of the spacecrafts from radiation in universe. The research team is focusing on materials called as nanofoams. These materials are ideal as nuclear safety interfaces because of their high densities for absorbing large amount of radiations. The surface of nanofoams provides a high density sink for radiations. ***

  • HardLeft

    It does seem like the tone of the dialogue on this entire site is bumping up a notch– more science, less BS, more respect, etc. Great posts in particular by FireGuy and Mitisu on previous threads, but many others great posts on other threads as well.

    This is like trying to drink from a firehose of information, so just a few quick thoughts here:

    On the current state of the corium, a few relevant posts from Physics Forum, did not copy down the screen names of those posting:

    “It’s not very well understood why the corium stopped flowing, at Chernobyl. Maybe Dimitry was right and it self-distilled, releasing all/most of the fission products and so decreasing its heat production. I don’t know, no one knows, but I don’t see how not cooling the corium is better than cooling the corium.

    It appears to me that our only practical experience with corium has been at TMI and Chernobyl. In both cases, the corium failed to deliver the catastrophic behavior predicted of it.”

    Yeah, well, unless you work in health care and you are into epidemiology. From my perspective, Chernobyl delivered big time, but the larger point is that this is an unprecedented experiment. What I’m seeing is that even people way smarter than me have no clue what is going to happen next, and at least they are being somewhat honest about it.

    • I agree, is settling down into what it wants to be.

      It started out “the sky is falling, oh no!” [which is true].

      Now, the sky has fallen.

      Nobody seems to know much about what corium does at this stage under these circumstances. So, the discussion inevitably becomes a little “silent”, while we scratch our heads and look for solutions.

      I think it was around this time that Paul Revere hopped on his horse and went a-visiting.

      He also came up with “an intelligence and alarm system”. Crowd-sourced enemy monitoring.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Tossed ashore by tsunami, beached ships get rescued as Japan fishing town scrambles to recover
    The Canadian Press By Malcolm Foster

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Off Topic:
    It’s a no brainer. REALLY?

    Fretting over fracking risks jobs – Administration panders to inordinate fears

  • Facebook, Paypal Accounts Hacked
    Yes, I recommend people stay away from Facebook, and Paypal. (People have been arrested for comments made, or misconstrued, on Facebook. Also an intelligence data mining site).
    The hacker group Lulz Security is claiming it released log-in information for 62,000 private internet accounts Thursday, including Facebook, PayPal, dating sites, Xbox Live and Twitter.

    The list is mostly American accounts but includes hundreds of Canadians, including a CBC journalist from Prince Edward Island, and employees of all three levels of government, including provincial public servants in Alberta, Nova Scotia, and Prince Edward Island and at least one municipal worker in Whitehorse.

    Who’s on the list

    CBC reporter Laura Chapin pored through the list and found more than a hundred email addresses ending in .ca in the top sixth of the list, including:

    Federal government workers from Service Canada, Passport Canada, and Public Safety Canada.

    Provincial government workers in Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and Alberta, including at least one from the P.E.I. Department of Justice and Public Safety.

    Municipal government workers from several cities, including Whitehorse.

    Dozens of personal addresses.

    Canadians may also be included among the email addresses that don’t end in .ca.

    The list shows that the most common password is 123456, which shows up almost 600 times. Another very common password is “romance.”

    Other countries whose citizens were hacked include the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand and Brazil.

  • Godzilla

    Just in case we haven’t been getting enough radiation from Fukus, we’ve also been getting a huge burst of gamma radiation since March 28 from another galaxy zillions of light years away:

    I think maybe Someone Big has decided to sterilize the human race, and I’m cheering Him on all the way.

  • Anthony Anthony

    Nuclear power: What now?

    June 17, 2011 3:38 PM |
    By Bob McDonald, Quirks & Quarks

    Before the disaster at the Fukushima Power Plant in Japan, the nuclear industry was about to enter a renaissance. But now, public and political confidence in nuclear safety has fallen, while the demand for electricity continues to grow.

    Next week, a gathering of international experts in Hamilton will look at the issues surrounding this energy source we love to hate and plot a course for its future.

    More than 250 delegates from around the world will participate in the International Conference on Radioecology and Environmental Radioactivity, which will examine key issues, such as nuclear safety, accidents, and dealing with emergencies like Chernobyl and the recent Fukushima disaster.

  • hejoha

    I’ve keept this site on my fauvorite for quite som time not, but the latest days the info is degrating in worrying and increasing pace.

    The situation is serious enough anyway but speaking of earless rabits, and everyday showing diagrams from unknowns source with instrument error as headline. Please keep info relevant and correct, or this site will be irrelvant in corresponing pace.