Published: November 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm ET
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Nov. 4 — “At the terminal in Shinagawa Ward, debris containers were transshipped onto trucks to be carried to a crushing facility in Ota Ward, from where combustibles will be taken to an incinerator in Koto Ward,” reports Kyodo.
“Resulting ash and incombustibles are to be used as landfill in Tokyo Bay,” the report said.
“In light of radiation fears among residents, the metropolitan government plans to monitor and release data weekly on radiation levels in the air at the edge of the crushing premises and once a month on crushed waste, ash and exhaust gas, it said,” according to Kyodo.
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Published: November 4th, 2011 at 6:20 pm ET
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Guess who’s burning the radioactive debris? You guessed it, Tepco.
“I’ve told you already that the one and only contractor who can burn according to the Tokyo Metropolitan government specs (which was clearly designed so that there would be nobody else) is a TEPCO’s subsidiary.”
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/11/radioactive-disaster-debris-arrives-in.html
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there is a good wording for that in dutch:
one mans pain is another mans gain
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Catweazel you ever hear the saying
Pride goeth before a fall
No man will gain from this. No anywhere at any time.
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This Japanese fixation with cremation involving radioactive debris is beyond the pale. Is there not one intelligent scientist or a courageous leader in the entire nation who can rally the citizens? I seriously think the government leaders are stark raving batsh#t mad. It is time for the people to leave Japan by hook or by crook. Run, walk, flee to the western coasts and catch a ship to anywhere.
It is also time to withdraw the US troops dying in Japan. Our leaders are just as insane as the Japanese. On the Beach is officially well under way…Australians will be the last to die. Put a shrimp on the barbie for us mates!
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Informed Japanese people know that it is very bad to be incinerating the radioactive waste. I have seen interviews with Japanese women who openly express their anger and disagreements with burning the waste as it will make it airborne again and cause further contamination spread.
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I see a lot of people in Japan complaining, but very few people doing anything. Unless people get off their collective ass and protest (and withhold tax money from the government), nothing will change. The placidity of the Japanese is astonishing. Had this disaster happened almost anywhere else in the world, citizens would have taken to the streets en mass. Instead, a handful of Japanese try to bring attention to it, but they are essentially ignored. Nothing changes in that country. It’s sad, maddening and frightening.
How can they sit around and do nothing? Do they honestly believe that putting on blinders will make this go away? This meltdown is bad enough without those f-ing idiots at TEPCO burning nuclear waste and sending into the jet stream. A handful of women protesting in Tokyo isn’t going to change anything.
This disaster has made me despise the Japanese culture and the majority of the population. I know it’s not politically correct, but screw those people! If I was Japanese with nothing left to lose, every TEPCO executive would be dead. Only until the upper leadership fears for their lives and bank accounts will anything be done, but the society is too full of cowards to do anything. The population sat by while their government allowed four dozen plus nuclear reactors to be constructed on fault lines. The society doesn’t gee a damn about nature. No one says or does anything. They create electronic toys that pull us further away from nature. Virtual reality is better than reality in their view. This is karma. They will reap what they have sowed.
For such a self-conscious society, they seem to not care that the world looks on them with shame for not having the courage to stand up and at least try to do something (or stop the burning) Those who sit in silence deserve their fate.
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Would be great if it was that simple
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It is actually that simple. The majority of people choose to do nothing, blaming society, their parents, governments, etc. for their choices or lack thereof because it is easier to blame these entities than to actually do something to take a stand. Wars wouldn’t happen if people refused to fight and subsidize the costs. TEPCO would not have gotten away with this if people actually had an inkling of courage to stand up and protect the planet. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of Japanese have done nothing. FUCK THEM! Oh, I guess they are fucked because they haven’t done shit for their country or their planet.
Every TEPCO executive deserves death for crimes against humanity. They have lied. They have poisoned the oceans. They have made sure that a significant part of the world population will eventually die from this (because this is far from over – the domino effect will take place as the country becomes too saturated with radiation to keep any nuclear workers alive long enough to shut down the other reactors – which will likelysuffer from more earthquakes) They have poisoned the world, but you sit there and let them get away with it, claiming it’s not so simple.
It is simple, really. If the executives and their families faced execution, then might actually do something. There have been lots of suggestions regarding ways to stop or limit the radiation from spreading, and TEPCO and Japan have done nothing. Fuck them! This is a war. If you let TEPCO and Japan get away with these crimes, they have won. And if they have won, it is because the population has been too emasculated to do anything but shuffle their feet with their eyes averted to the ground. It’s time to make people accountable for their action – or their inaction.
Does it not bother you that the majority of the Japanese don’t give a damn if the radioactive waste is burned? I don’t want to die because a group of people do not have the courage to take on their…
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Hi Kelly Ann,
I think it would be a good idea not to judge everyone the same way. I assume you are a U.S. citizen.
How many dangerous nuclear plants are there in the U.S.? 104? How many protesting have you seen after Fukushima at the plant near you?
How many signatures did the White House petition against granting new goverment loans to the nuke industry get? It weren’t even 5000, the petition failed.
What does that tell you about the awareness and interest of people in the U.S.?
And it’s basically the same all over the world.
I agree with you that the Japanese government and Tepco are behaving criminal and absolutely irresponsible and should be facing a judge.
I don’t agree, though, with calling the civilians “cowards” and blaming them to do nothing. To say “Fuck them!” and say that they deserve this fate if they don’t protest is just arrogant, in my opinion.
I imagine there are a lot of English-speaking Japanese who are reading this board, looking for information and also for support.
I feel ashamed to imagine them reading your comment, and thinking your view represents the majority here. Maybe it does, but it does not represent mine.
The Japanese mindset is probably very different from ours / yours – that doesn’t give us / you the right to judge.
I’d prefer if we’d try to help and support, instead of passing the blame. The Japanese people love their children too, that is for sure.
*peace
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This is the worst disaster that the humanity and the planet have ever faced (as far as we know) and the silence is maddening. We cannot afford to sit in silence. We cannot allow the Japanese government and TEPCO any more access to this disaster because they have failed miserably. They don’t know what they are doing. We cannot allow Japanese pride to take precedence over truth, and this is exactly what has happened. Rather than just admit to the facts and deal with it, however hard it may be, we have to endure lie after lie while millions of people breathe in radioactive particulates. Everyone on this board (including the occasional shill) knows just how bad this is and how many people will soon die. We are already seeing an increase in miscarriage and still births. Many Japanese children have all the signs of radiation poisoning, and yet the majority of parents refuse to demand that some action be taken against the perpetrators of this on-going (EIGHT MONTHS!) meltdown of mythic proportions. WTF? I am more outraged than many of the people dying. Where are their voices? Where is their sense of honor? How can they turn their backs on their children? How can they turn their backs on the land where they live?
I know that there are activists in Japan who are braving death to find a way to stop this. I feel their presence. I know they exist, but the majority of the culture refuses to address this. Even the (very small) Occupy Tokyo protest sports banners like “We Are Anti-Nuclear” and “Don’t Restart Nuclear Plants.” Yes, not starting the nuclear plants is important, but what about the ongoing disaster? What about the toxic air, food and water? Silence. So TEPCO will burn more of this stuff and it let it drift into the atmosphere. I have to wonder if the Japanese are thinking that at least it will be airborne and maybe dissipate over the ocean or any other country but Japan.
I hate the Japanese culture of saving face. FUCK THAT!!!
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If you think that G.E., the Rockefellers, Bill Gates, the NRC, the US government are not complicit in the Japanese response to Fukushima, then think again. The IAEA is international. Their complicity in the Fukushima disaster and cover-up is obvious. The US is allowing radioactive imports of food and cars and other goods to enter the US to destroy our environment here. The US is everything about “saving face” also, as are all the other countries who have plans to keep nuclear power plants in service and to build more nuclear power plants. The silence in many countries other than Japan is also deafening. Just which politicians on the world stage are opposed to nuclear power? Germany, Belgium, Mexico, Switzerland are the only ones I can name off hand. Do you have evidence of any more? Which presidential hopeful in the US is campaigning against nuclear power? Is it even a topic of discussion in the Congress?
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Which country (the US) is spreading radioactive fallout throughout the world by using weapons and armaments of enriched uranium even today as we speak?
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I have protested DU weapons for a long time. I don’t support the US government and I have been vocal about it. I have blasted Americans and their ignorance for a long time. But this is the WORST DISASTER IN HUMAN HISTORY and the Japanese are not saying anything! They don’t give a damn about the burning of this waste. They are fucked, so who cares about the rest of the planet? That is their attitude. Japan is not a country that has lived in harmony with the planet over the last century. It’s all about electronics and shopping. It’s a passive, consumer-goods oriented society. It’s aggressive, egocentric and out of balance. The silence of the population shows you exactly what they are as a culture – COWARDS.
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And what country is officially protesting what is happening in Fukushima? And the US and NATO have passed on to using not just depleted uranium, but also enriched uranium.
Attacking the Japanese people isn’t helping. You need to be arguing with the NRC and the IAEA and the UN. Has the UN said anything? And has WHO said anything about Chernobyl or Three Mile Island that hasn’t first been approved by the IAEA?
Instead of attacking the people who are victims and vulnerable isn’t exactly very brave. Can you place the blame on those who are at fault internationally and argue with them? Or are they too powerful and too criminal?
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Of course there is a conspiracy to silence the critics. It is obvious by the lack of new regarding this or any other disaster (GOM). But in this day of information, any concerned citizen with a bit of gray matter can enter a search on Fukushima and come up with the truth in less than half a second on a search engine. A concerned citizen can make his or her voice heard. It’s not until the majority or a loud, vocal minority brings attention to Fukushima that we can have any hope of stemming the flow of radiation. I would think that dying while the government lied about it might be enough to make people march in the streets and demand the heads of TEPCO.
If this disaster had happened in France, do you really think that the entire population of France would go along with the conspiracy of silence to save face? Or the Germans? Or even the Russians? Only a handful of populations (like North Korea) would remain silent about this.
All over the world people are taking to the streets to take back their liberties, even Americans (finally). If a man isn’t afraid to speak out in Tunisia or Egypt, then why are the Japanese afraid to discuss the truth about Fukushima?
While the US has committed too many atrocities to list, there are plenty of good people sitting in jail because they tried to do something. Whether its the nuns protesting the School of Americas or Rachel Corrie going to Israel and standing in front of a Caterpillar, there are always a few people doing what they can to bring an issue to light, even when they know they have no chance of success. I just don’t see that in Japan. It is a shame that this highly educated, affluent society sits in silence. Maybe they are seething silently, but their silence is of no value. The time to do something is now.
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And I hope a few Japanese read this and finally do something. At the very least, speak out! I hope they read my words and feel shame for their silence. I think shame is the only thing that will motivate them. The death of their children or health of their planet doesn’t seem to be strong enough – maybe attacking the ego will do the trick.
Yes, I am a US citizen who has lived abroad for 6 1/2 years. I left the US because I do not like the government or the culture of idiocracy. I have never been afraid to stand up for what is right, even when I had a security clearance. I signed hundreds of petitions, went to protests, and tried to live in harmony with the planet. I found I could not do that in the United States, so I left. I think the Japanese should leave en masse, leaving TEPCO executives, reporters, nuclear shills, bankers and government officials to spend the rest of their short lives on the radioactive island once known as Japan. But that requires that the country awake from its deadly slumber.
I try to be an activist. I have over 2,000 emails I have harvested from people who refuse to use BCC or erase the list of previous recipients. I send full articles from Enenews, FOSL and WRH anonymously in hopes that someone might read them. (Surprisingly, may do.) When I am in the US, I print and photocopy articles and insert them in daily newspapers. I leave printouts in almost every public place. I have been engaging in guerrilla activism for years.
It’s not that difficult, and yet the Japanese haven’t done a thing. Surely in the electronic world they should have been able to find a way to spread the message. Eight months later, no end in sight, children poisoned without any hope for a good future (if they even survive) and the Japanese don’t have anything to say except happy people will avoid radiation poisoning.
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Occupy Tokyo, Japanese mothers protesting. Also some prefectures have voted no more nuclear. And some scientists have spoken out against nuclear power plants for 40 years. Also I have seen a video about a Japanese speaking out against nuclear in their legislative body. Also some of our bloggers are in Japan. Also one blogger make a beautiful video against nuclear energy. Also some have come to the US already. Also I have seen ordinary citizens on video complaining that they don’t want to live in Fukushima prefecture. They have blogs which record physical symptoms. And I have seen news articles published in Japanese newspapers which are anti-nuclear. The Japanese are protesting, but the msm isn’t reporting it.
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@Kelly Ann, are you aware of this Japanese website? http://fukushima-diary.com/
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+100
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Hi SP, alas I fear no shrimp (as you call them, we say ‘prawn’) will be safe to eat, coming as they do from that radioactive cesspool known as the Pacific Ocean. Likewise being On The Beach might not be such a good idea… somewhere outback like Uluru (Ayers Rock) maybe… oh wait! That’s not far from where the Brits tested A-bombs back in the fifties…
Someone make it stop.
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it depends a bit on the filterig behind the burning. they have to do something, it is to much to just pile it up
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The burning of radioactive debris will destroy any hopes of decontamination. Seems the Japanese government has no desire to clean up anything. Radiation will be monitored and ignored. Systematic depopulation has begun.
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I haven’t posted in a while (too busy moving south), but this is madness. These people are addicted to power, like coke addicts are addicted to coke. And they’re so far gone, they have no ability to think rationally anymore.
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Are you moving south to a safer place with less exposure from downwind fukushima fallout?
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Yes. I moved south of the Intertropical Convergence Zone. I’ve been here a while now, but still getting settled.
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stop burning isotopes….!!! interesting update on forest fires and the spread of contamination from chernobyl below..proper scientific study, outlines seasonal contamination in europe and russia from fires and seasonal burning…where these isotopes were found.. the type of isotope.. very informative.. wonder if IAEATEPCO have read it yet?? 2009
“The accident of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant (ChNPP) in 1986 was probably the worst environmental disaster in the past 30 years. The fallout and accumulation of radionuclides in the soil and vegetation could have long-term impacts on the environment. Radionuclides released during large, catastrophic vegetation fires could spread to continental Europe, Scandinavia, and Russia. The potential for large fires occurring in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone (EZ) was assessed based on vegetation conditions. We reviewed the composition of radionuclides in the soil and vegetation and in the particulate matter emitted by fires. The highest atmospheric radionuclide 137Cs levels occurred in early spring and late fall, corresponding to the most intense periods of burning in the EZ. It is evident from satellite images that smoke plumes from the EZ and southern Ukraine dispersed several hundred kilometers from the active fires and reached a major metropolitan area. We propose to install a satellite receiving station to detect fires in real time. It is also essential to develop a smoke dispersion and air quality forecasting model to predict the radioactivity levels downwind from catastrophic fires in order to protect public health.”
http://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/pubs/33777
and this somehow on topic pdf 2009
http://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs_other/rmrs_2009_hao_w001.pdf
wonder if the press actually know if they are being manipulated?? hmmm!
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OMG !!
They are gouing to start feeding school children Fukushima rice in their lunches…
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/11/koriyama-city-in-fukushima-to-feed.html
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What in HELL is wrong with the governor of Fukushima to do such an atrocious act against the beautiful children of his land? Pure harmful madness. With all of the rice in the world – WHY MUST THAT RICE be used???
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Cooking steam will rise !
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It is complicated because of the floods in Thailand. As far as I know it is the biggest rice producer in the world. On the other hand Japan, like many other country,cares more for the national economy, than about human health. They attack short living problems, and avoid the lasting ones. And it is a big mistake. No country can be prosperous without healthy, young people with intellect and ambitions.
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STUPID STUPID STUPID. And criminal to do this to young children and adults worldwide.
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decisions against humanity,
As so often in recent months,
the inhumane way to resolve that no solution is
Stand up and fight citizen from JP
let the humanity and wisdom space
and see where the families of politicians, and what they eat …., I would imagine that they act differently for themselves, and not the suffering of the General People share ..
but sure is nobbody there ,the illness and cancer Roulette has start
and the chance to “win” goes bigger and bigger
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@ Bleifrei,
you cant delegate your Responsibility to other People,
all is up to you and not to the others (Japanese)!
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And watch:
http://spectrum.ieee.org/static/mapping-fukushimas-impact-on-japan
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all political decisions make it worse and worse,
only if it meets their own families, the politicians, maybe then they wake up …i hope not to late
my humble opinion
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@ H.0815
thx for the link
the decision maker in Japan. include in the geneva international court of justice. . Indictment: genocide by omission
my humple opnion…
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opinion
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Saw Alice live in concert in Houston…39 years ago.. Wow.. I was younger then McGee!
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Human0815-move your money out of the largest bank and urge others to do so too. Move it quietly and quickly. When the banks see the numbers dropping they will address it in some way.
Always hit corporations in their wallets. That works the fastest.
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I’d prepare a special bowl of rice for the Governor of Fukushima-complete with arsenic.
If I were in Japan dying I figure I would have nothing to lose anyway.
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I met somewhere the information that people are bringing contaminated soil in front of the Diet and tepco headquarters. Seems fair to return back what was brought to your home and garden without asking you. It is their property and a result of their policy – give it back to the owners!
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