Just In: Emergency closure of fishery along entire West Coast — Almost no babies surviving since 2011 — “Catastrophic crash… Population decimated… Crisis… Collapse so severe” — “Latest in series of alarming die-offs… mass reproductive failures… strange diseases” — Official: “A lot of weird things out there”

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NY Times, Apr 15, 2015 (emphasis added): [Regulators] approved an emergency closure of commercial sardine fishing off Oregon, Washington and California… Earlier this week, the council shut down the next sardine season… [R]evised estimates of sardine populations… found the fish were declining in numbers faster than earlier believed… [Stocks are] much lower than estimated last year… The reasons are not well-understood.

Pacific Fishery Management Council meeting, April 13, 2015: Ben Enticknap, Oceana senior scientist (1:08:00 in) — “We’ve seen a significant change in recruitment [Recruitment: The number of new young fish that enter a population]. There’s been practically no recruitment in recent years, and this was not expected.”

Undercurrent News, Apr 14, 2015: [A]ccording to the report on the emergency action from the PFMC… “the total stock biomass of Pacific sardine is declining as a result of poor recruitment“… [A California Wetfish Producers Association official said] “little recruitment was observed in 2011-2014.”

Oregonian, Apr 13, 2015: Pacific coast sardines are facing a population collapse so severe [fishing] will be shut down… [The] downward spiral in spite of favorable water conditions has ocean-watchers worried there’s more to this collapse than cyclical population trends. “There are a lot of weird things happening out there, and we’re not quite sure why they aren’t responding the way they should,” said Kevin Hill, a NOAA Fisheries biologist… Fishery managers are adding it to a list of baffling circumstances off the West Coast… NOAA surveys indicate very few juvenile fish made it through their first year. “The population isn’t replacing itself,” Hill said.

SFist, Apr 14, 2015: [T]he population appears decimated… As the Council writes, “temperatures in the Southern California Bight have risen in the past two years, but we haven’t seen an increase in young sardines”… Sardines typically spawn in warmer waters, with cold water decreasing their numbers.

SF Chronicle, Apr 14, 2015: Sardine population collapses… [There's] evidence stocks are going through the same kind of collapse [seen in the 1950s]… The sardine population along the West Coast has collapsedCauses of crisis — A lack of spawning… was blamed for the decline… Severe downturn… things recently took a turn for the worse… because of a lack of spawning due to poor ocean conditions in 2014… The collapse this year is the latest in a series of alarming die-offs, sicknesses and population declines in the ocean ecosystem along the West Coast. Anchovies… have also declined [due to] a lack of zooplankton… Record numbers of starving sea lions… Brown pelicans, too, have suffered from mass reproductive failures and are turning up sick and deadStrange diseases have also been proliferating in the sea…

Monterey Herald, Apr 13, 2015: For the first time in 30 years [sardine fishing] will be banned.

KPCC, Apr 1, 2015: The first time that sardine fishing has been banned since federal management of the fishery began… Many are worried a… catastrophic crash is happening.

Full recording of the PFMC meeting here

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  • Fukushima Day 1497. GET THE RAD WORD OUT FOLKS!
    http://tinyurl.com/fukushimabusinesscard4u

    The West Coast Thanks YOU!

    Anyone got a Dana D link?


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    We have three cores melted out of their reactor buildings, lost in the mudrock and sandstone, which we have failed to locate and mitigate.
    We have an underground river running under the ruins, which we have failed to divert around the reactors.
    We have three empty reactors, containing nothing but corium splatter left when they blew up and melted out.
    We have the Pacific Ocean Ecosystem, which we have stressed beyond endurance, through ocean dumping, over fishing, agricultural runoff, and now unrestricted radiation.
    We have the sudden collapse of the Pacific Ocean Ecosystem, with a threatened collapse of the biosphere.
    We continue to allow corporate and governmental inaction.
    What in hell did you think was going to happen? ;)


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    • your comment summed it all up so perfectly, phillip, that i copied it and credited you and posted it with the share of this article.


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    • It is not over by a long shot either. The Common Spent Fuel Storage Unit is warming up just meters behind those blown out reactors with a potential Earth Kill fire. Nobody is showing any interest in moving those con-freaking-taminated assemblies to a place far far safer to store them. Not moving them as soon as they could is telling you a story. The future burning of that delicate bit of kit preventing a planet wide rad event seems to be the plan.. How come i seem to be the only one that sees the gargantuan threat this one small building poses to the entire population on this planet? Anyone else here have anything to say on the CSFSU????


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      • Alan; I am afraid there is no safe or safer place for this filthy fuel.
        In fact, this is one reason I am sure they never removed any rods from Unit-4. I mean, the rods were far too unstable (what was left of them) to be put into casks. So, they could not have put them anywhere, "safe".

        That is the biggest problem with nuclear. All of the horribly dangerous waste it creates CANNOT be safely stored,
        A N Y W H E R E
        !!

        And this is one reason why Fukushima is not to be stopped. Everything it throws off from those very active piles of coria? Won't be contained, won't be stopped, flows unabated into the sea, land, and air.


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        • My bad sorry.. Does anyone have anything INTELLIGENT to say about the Common Spent Fuel Storage Unit.

          There is PLENTY of places FAR safer than where it is.. in fact you could not find a worse place to leave that building.


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          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            FWIW Alan Reid, I agree. A common pool sitting next to multiple melt downs on unstable ground and in questionable condition is the set up for global apocalypse.

            There should be multiple spent fuel pools built further from the site. TEPCO still makes a profit while the very survival of the planet teeters on their spent fuel pool which sits in the middle of a level 7 nuclear disaster zone


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            • TY Code. I can't shake the thought that the scumbags throwing switches and calling shots behind the scenes have Global Apocalypse right on top if the charts. I have seen not one thing to prove the opposite. That place is on-deck,Revved up and just waiting to kill like nothing ever before unleashed by man. The only sane thing for normal thinking humans is to get the FUC on the loudspeakers wherever you can find them and DEMAND that CSFSU is not allowed to burn up. Mess this one up folks and we are all done. Please oh PLEASE get on this issue NOW all other things CAN WAIT! The CSFSU cannot. You all WERE WARNED!


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          • Already into the biosphere ~1800 tons of high level material. 5600 tons of high level material loaded into the gun pointed at the whole world just waiting for the trigger man. On Purpose. With malice and forethought. Evil men have plans. Your death is being monitored for quality assurance purposes.


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    • PUN: We have all those circumstances. We have allowed these horrid men to act as terrible stewards of this planet. Not only can Fukushima not be stopped, but it seems these men won't be stopped, either, until they are dead.
      Sadly, others of their ilk will replace them, until it is too obvious for the masses to ignore it. Then the castles will be stormed.

      When will we ever shut-down NUCLEAR?


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  • m a x l i

    "The reasons are not well-understood."

    If this slow-motion development of our understanding does not pick up the pace, then soon there will be nothing left to understand.


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  • Nick

    Die-lution.

    Bafflement, befuddlement, over mysterious catastrophic decimation of, possibly, the entire marine ecosystem of the once pristine, immense blue
    waters of the solar systems largest body of water.


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    • “temperatures in the Southern California Bight have risen in the past two years, but we haven’t seen an increase in young sardines as expected.” Sardines typically spawn in warmer waters, with cold water decreasing their numbers."

      Why are the biologists saying the exact opposite?

      DOH!

      Taboo word starts with R..

      and ends with ion.


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    • combomelt combomelt

      a wee tiny little bit of water actually….

      http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/combomelt/ballofwater.jpg

      how much more shyte can be dumped in there?

      psychopaths


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      • JimLynch JimLynch

        Judging by this megatons–and so close to the ocean as well.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZI9xrqTByY#t=86


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Hmmn … the last time this happened was in the 1950's (closure of the sardine fishery). Wasn't that, uh, around the time the big boys with their big boy toys started getting hot and heavy with the above ground nuke testing? Hmmn … any connection there?

          Only this time, it's the zooplankton, the sea lions, the seals, the walruses, the poroises and dolphins, the sea stars, sea anenomes, the barnacles and muscles, and God only knows what other sealife is being decimated. I'm sure I haven't done justice in listing all the species of sea creatures wasting away, dying away, failing to reproduce. So let's call it a tidy word, like, "recruitment." Like we have to "recruit" animals to reproduce? Oh, we need to solicit their partcipation now? (Goofy use of language, IMO).

          Apparently the bewilderment and befuddlement is still operating in some scientific brains, but the veneer of obscurity and obfuscation, pretense of ignorance is wearing thin.

          The emporer has been stark naked for over four years, and now apparently some of the scientists are beginning to regain their eyesight.

          They've apparently been fumbling around, blindfolded, along with the other blind men in the room with the big huge, elephant in it.

          Hope springs eternal.


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  • bluetick

    i find this very interesting in that back in the late 40s and 50s I believe there was a massive dump of old radiation into ocean

    "1946 First dumping operation at Northeast Pacific Ocean (about 80 km off the coast of California)" wikipedia

    maybe sardines dont like radiation….duhhhhhhh


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  • Nick

    "The fish are caught mainly at night, when they rise to the surface to feed on plankton.."

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/524126/sardine

    Plankton.

    Any chance that stuff is not as nutritious for the fish of late?

    The boom and bust cycle of sardines (several dif. species) is well documented.

    These populations do naturally fade.

    At this juncture, the "warm blob" may be partly responsible?

    Time for a new novel….

    http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/canneryrow/summary.html


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  • :|

    My email to journalist(?) Kelly House of the Oregonian newspaper.

    Dear Kelly,

    In my opinion your not mentioning the FALLOUT from the ongoing TRIPLE MELTDOWNS in Fukushima, Japan as a possible contributing factor is criminal negligence.

    Do you get paid by the Nuclear Industry or is it that you succumb to peer pressure and are afraid of being called a 'fear monger'? Whatever happened to 'real' journalism?

    This was clearly predicted 4 years ago.

    According to Ken Buesselor of Woods Hole Institute a person swimming in the Pacific for 6 hours a day for a year would get the equivalent of an X-Ray. What if your a little fish or bacteria that lives and swims 24/7/365. What is the X-ray effect going to do the offspring and their DNA?

    Unfortunately, this will get worse with time as the insidious 'transport vectors' of radioactive contamination continue to spread and accumulate unabated.

    The lies of the Nuclear Industry will not prevail much longer.

    Good luck.

    Sincerely,
    ChasAha


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      good for you ChasAha. Dont forget bioaccumulation and the study showing orca will glow in the night


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    • ChasAha, A very good point. What crossed my mind is those X rays that are not that unhealthy for a Human according to their science, is in effect deadly to the smaller organisms.

      I did a bit of homework on the '7 Bq/square meter dilution' when it is averaged world wide.

      The total ocean volume is approximately 1.35 billion cubic kilometers x 1000 to make 1350B m3 area times the 7 bq/m3 disintegrations per second at 9450B times 60 seconds to make a 39+ billion CPM combined oceanic background; and these numbers will soon be reality as the Bq/square meter oceanic counts increase exponentially in the future. These numbers could eventually raise hell with the lower Van Allen radiation belts.


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    • ChasAha,
      I read this forum every evening, and I bookmark* the most excellent posts. Your post above definitely qualifies.

      Thank you.

      *I right click on the date below the name of poster and "save link as…".


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    • DUD DisasterInterpretationDissorder

      Thank You ChasAha !


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Japan's woefull inadequate response to the Fukushima Extinction Level Event includes:
    1. Defueling of spent fuel pool of Unit 4.

    An adequate response to a disaster of this magnitude would have consisted of the following:
    1. Nationalizing the Fukushima Diiachi Nuclear Power Plant.
    2. Japanese Army in charge, and evacuate greater Tokyo.
    3. Locate and map 3 missing melted cores, wherever they are to be found.
    4. Completion of an underground Impermeable Wall Enclosure around Units 1 to 4.
    5. Empty spent fuel pools from units 1 through 6, and common spent fuel pool into dry cask storage.
    6. Construction of a 100' deep foundation around Units 1 to 4.
    7. Filling corium lava tubes with sand or grout, lead, and boron mixture.
    8. Filling torus, torus basements, containments, and reactors with sand or grout mixture.
    9. Construction of a reinforced concrete sarcophagus over Units 1 to 4.
    10. Cover sarcophagus with a flexable membrane roof to trap gasses and seal cracks caused by future earthquakes.
    11. Seal off harbor with locks, and concrete the harbir floor.
    12. Load contaminated water into barges, and sink them at sea, over trench.

    Japan needs a revolution.
    Sorry, by the way, Japan for the destruction of your civilization.


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    • In favor of everything but ocean dumping, which is ILLEGAL for very good reasons, by the way.

      What happens when the barges rust through, releasing all that high level radiation from the tanks?

      What if they got shot full of holes or blown to smithereens to make them sink faster, as was done with ocean dumping of nuclear waste barrels?


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    • Concise 'the best we can do' summation, PUN. Always thank you.


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Gases will create fumaroles in the lava tubes so I would leave out the lead and make it a self sealing and re-fillable non toxic filter material..sand, diatomaceous earth, charcoal, clay.

      Ocean dumping does not seem like a good idea.

      Why cover unit 4 since its completely safe now? But nobody came up with a plausible theory how it was blown to smithereens, so until they do, the fuel is a suspect cause, thus safety of U4 is supposition, not fact


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      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        CodeShutdown asks: "Why cover unit 4 since its completely safe now?"
        First, The 4 reactors sit in a row, so the sarcophagus may as well extend over all 4 ruins.
        Second: God knows what leaked down the north wall. It should be either cleaned up or covered over.
        Third: They were loading Unit 4 on 311. The reactor must be defueled, and the covers put in place, at the least.
        Fourth: The Equipment Pool has plutonium corium meltout through the bottom, exiting out the north wall.
        Fifth: To decommission Unit 4, grout the torus, torus basement, containment, reactor, SFP, and EP.
        Sixth: Unit 3 rained fuel down all over Unit 4 during the detonation. The ground around Unit 4 needs to be covered over anyway.

        Like your idea about filling the corium lava tubes. Big thumbs up. ;)


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Philip…the north wall melt on Unit4 is certainly a mystery. How could the equipment pool hold water if corium melted through the bottom? How could the corium travel horizontally 50 ft before blasting out the wall? If the reactor was loaded up then there wasnt anything in the equipment pool. If the reactor load is what caused the explosion, theres little chance of defueling. If the SFP is safe, theres no need to grout it.

          ….doesnt matter anyway, but some consistency to the story has its own aesthetic value


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    • Dick Shenary

      PUN – Every once in a while I need to remind people that Japan is a Kabuki puppet dancing by the stick held by America. It has been this way since the 1945 unconditional surrender. Our troops are still there and the Japanese government is not exactly considered independent. America is just as complicit in downplaying this disaster as is the Japanese government. If the American government took this potential ELE threat seriously the whole world would follow. America for quite some time has claimed to be the leader of the entire world. If so – now is the time to prove it. I am just afraid that like most bullies when faced with a serious challenge, they run away.


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      • DUD DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        I agree Dick , that Japan <—> USA dynamic is what keep's the whole world hostage to the unfolding of our extermination..


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      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        Dick: California is the richest state in the US.
        I have friends out in California, who are still oblivious to Fukushima, even as the radiation comes on shore.
        They are buying houses, and time shares in Hawaii, which is right in the middle of the growing Pacific Dead Zone.
        They are raising their families in an increasingly toxic radiation environment.
        Eventually, as fisheries close down, and large mammals disappear, they will come to understand the threat to their lives posed by Fukushima.
        They will become alarmed, angry, and will kick nuclear the hell out of California, kick butt in Washington, DC, and demand action.
        Give it another 4 years.
        The US will lead the international effort to do what we can to remediate Fukushima.
        Watch this unfold.


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        • humptydumpty humptydumpty

          I'm sorry to be pessimistic (as if there weren't reason enough), but nobody is likely to "kick butt" in Washington. Distractions, diversions, and obfuscation will continue. The death of Pacific sea life will be blamed on ocean acidification and warming, as current propaganda continues to do. Regrettable, but not life threatening to humans, so they say.

          Japan's draconian law barring publication of bad news will be adopted here in the U.S. too. The security state with its surveillance and militarization of police forces will impose martial law and will crack down on any dissent. Look at the police actions after the Boston Marathon bombing — an example of the dystopia that is coming to our major cities, plus internment caps are prepared. The NSA can access our comments to reveal the putative "terrorist threat" we dissenters might pose. Fascism is on the march — it's currently hidden from most people's view, but soon it will be ubiquitous.


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      • Pete

        Japan holds the lions share of blame, they may have been our vassal for years but they have since stretched their wings and flown free right down the throat of the radiobeast.
        The US brought in huge bus-sized pumping trucks on 3/12 or 3/13 IIRC, and the Japanese wouldnt let them be driven to the plant because they werent licensed to be driven on Japanese roads.
        There are many many other examples, like when Japan didn't want to give back our 100 pounds of weapons grade Plutonium, and so just didnt for a long time.
        I imagine they just switched it with some of their other weapons grade stocks because Im betting our supply was already used in their own nuclear weapons program of course but we told them they couldn't create nukes either.

        Im sure our USAID representative that flew there even sooner than the pump trucks didn't do humanity any favors, but the lions share of the blame falls on Japan and their shameful shadow society.
        How much better would this whole process have been if all japanese companies weren't beholden to the yakuza?
        How many billions have they been allowed to steal from the recovery "effort"?
        Besides Japan is one of the largest holders of US debt in the world, so it sounds all well and good to say we run their show and the US has more blame than they do but when you owe somebody a fuckton of money you don't really tell them shit.


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      PUN and razz backed by the OAK RIDGE boys

      http://www.hiroshimasyndrome.com/fukushima-accident-updates/fukushima-41.html

      OAK RIDGE study says SFP4 never lost water and that Jaczko, TEPCO, the NRC and DOE were just irresponsible to claim that it did. Moreover, SFP3 is in perfect condition and even a 35 ton apparatus that fell on the fuel assemblies did not damage them "we know now approximately where the equipment fell"

      Tepco says they will re-structure their nuclear energy division from top to bottom, if necessary, to establish sufficient
      confidence with the public to allow the restart of their currently-idled nukes.

      code; to declare that a 35 ton piece of equipment did not damage any fuel assemblies because we now know approximately where it is, is really reaching for it. If it turns out that SFP3 and 4 didnt suffer major damage, it would be a major miracle. I would call the Vatican.


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  • about time somebody actually did something real


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  • Nick

    Talk about strange disease….

    http://www.newsmax.com/Health/Health-News/dog-flu-chicago-midwest/2015/04/15/id/638562/

    “Officials say the outbreak of the so-called dog flu throughout the Chicago area is now of greater concern than originally thought. Not only is it a strain of canine influenza virus that's never appeared in North America before but it also has the potential to infect cats.”

    http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2015/04/15/surprising-dog-flu-find-generates-more-concerns

    Never appeared in North America before…

    ..hmmmmmmmmmmm?


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      • PurpleRain PurpleRain

        I'm sure it's probably some form of mutated virus… but what is more freaky is what about all those children who were in the news about a year or two ago now.. living in California and elsewhere who suddenly couldn't walk or stand or anything…and there was an entire school and mostly girl students in upstate New York…and they were all very-very sick… I get so angy that we have no real news media anymore! I want to know the follow-up to those stories…or have big hush-money come into play to buy all of their silence???? If anyone here does have any follow-up to those things please do pass along to us ok.


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    • Sam Sam

      4 yrs and counting.

      West Coast Marine Life in Peril
      Dogs suffering from Canine Flu in Midwest (viral and bacterial mutations)
      Enterovirous causing polio like syndrome in Children
      Tritium in drinking water
      Strontium releases increasing
      Cesium in the soil and uptake into Plants
      Plutonium blown from Fukushima deposited everywhere
      Whales washing up dead on West Coast Beaches
      Wipp radiotoxic releases in SouthWest America
      Ischemic lung disease in Dolphins off of Japan
      ———————————————-

      For whom the bells toll: we are next

      (the list I began is not comprehensive
      hope others will add)


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    • Johnny Blade

      @Nick;"Strange" is an understatement??!! This sicks!! I "used to" have 3 Chicago parks within a mile of my home that our little buddy loved to romp around and run free in while I followed with the plastic bag and shit stick,now I get worried just walking him around outside the apt. bldg.!!
      http://www.chicagonow.com/steve-dales-pet-world/2015/04/who-let-the-dogs-out/ I'm having a hard time distinguishing between "doggie depression",from not getting to do his usual routine in the usual places and the symptoms of the onset of this "dog flu"[??}}] :( I've ALWAYS had concerns & worried about how close to the ground their little bodies are re;311-fallout,but he was really sick for a few weeks not too long ago and now I don't know what to think[?]! Our neighborhood vet is a cool young lady and I doubt she would ever go along with "gag orders" from TPTB. I've known her since she took over for her dad who I won favor with before he retired by bringing him a couple of good cigars during our visits,but I still got too scared to take our dog "Teddy" aka "Cujo" for the vaccine they say may not offer cross-protection for the 2 known strains of which the latest is much worse and sees 8-10% get REALLY sick and/or die when I drove past the Vet hospital and saw her treating a row of caged dogs lined up several feet apart on the SIDEWALK OUTSIDE instead of inside the building??!! If I lose my wife,my dog,my sister and/or anyone else in my family I don't know what…


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      • Johnny Blade

        I'd do!! At least our dog has a single spot where he pisses on newspaper like when he was a pup and he's small enough that he only deposits tootsie rolls or croûtons when he does shit in the house!! He just turned 8 on 4/2/15,which makes him 56 in dog years. It seems weird to us and him to be "re-trained" to go back to being "paper-trained" & rewarded for relieving himself INDOORS??!! The herd of deer we visit to watch and toss a few carrots & apples at the forest preserve on the edge of city limits are looking pretty gnarly & thin this Spring too! :( Come to think of it,peoples are looking pretty raggedy lately too,starting with myself!! I've concluded that even if the troll[s] assertions that "not everything happening lately is radiation poisoning from 311/Fukushima",but that doesn't mean that radiation from Fukushima didn't "initiate/trigger" the weird things taking place,happening to nature & now our beloved pets! Chemtrail fleet has been laying some thick,overlapping patterns overhead too[?!] :| GOOD LUCK PEEPS[& your PETS!]


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      • Sam Sam

        Maybe we need to talk about the cascade of grief we
        are suffering and will suffer as time goes on.
        After catastrophes grief counselors appear to
        help the living find ways to move through the trauma.
        With the denial so heavy we are left to our own with
        this Nuclear Castastrophe. At least here we are
        a community helping each other.
        Stay strong Johnny Blade and continue to be here
        everyday. We are all with you.


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      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        That was for Nick: The dog flu traces to dogs brought to the US from China.


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        • Sam Sam

          like to read the source of dog flu from China


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          • Johnny Blade

            In my link above to "Steve Dale's Pet World",they talk about the 2 strains in detail. At the bottom in the reader's comments section there's a lady describing how a Chicago-based recue organization was bringing in "Eskie's" from Korea,which were not quarantined,etc.,but quickly put up for adoption. Like the editor/admin of the website,I'm not sure what an "Eskie" is either? But Korea is also known as a source of the disease,so hopefully they'll figure something out soon since it's suspected in 3 more US states now! :(


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            • Sam Sam

              thanks
              want to keep my Golden Retriever
              safe and as healthy as possible.


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            • Johnny Blade

              p.s.,THANKS SAM! my computer has been acting weird lately and things are either left out or placed into the middle of the wrong sentences[?]! I noticed it in a few other peeps posts too and wondering if we weren't left with viruses/malware "gifted" by our latest spate of unwelcome visitors amidst the propaganda that they spew to promote nuclear crap & save their crap jobs? Have a good day Sam! always appreciate your posts! :)


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            • Bay Area Guy 2

              I believe Eski likely refers to an American Eskimo. It's a dog that ranges in size from pretty small to fairly large and is quite hairy.

              http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americaneskimo.htm

              The dogs in Korea were rescued from a dog farm that was raising them for table meat.


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              • Johnny Blade

                THANKS BayAreaGuy2! I guess that explains the haste in which they forgo the usual quarantine,etc. "red-tape" and find homes here where someone like myself would ruin the party & beat some people down if I EVER saw "Fido" being put on the spit over the BBQ pit!! :( Some weird ass people/cultures in this crazy ass world!!


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                • Johnny Blade

                  Quick change of subject;We got a call from my sister who recently went through a bad break-up with a thieving,meth/crack-smoking tweaker while the MS she has been plagued with for 10+years has become the least of her troubles now…she was diagnosed with Stage4+ Gioblastoma and our mom got the call on my sis's 48th Birthday,April 14th :( !! THANKS AGAIN BIG NUKE,you dirty CO#$-SUCKERS!!!….


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    • PurpleRain PurpleRain

      Makes me wonder what is being added to the pet food supply and sold everywhere across this country too. Probably Fukushima-grown ingredients.


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Don't eat the pet food and don't eat the fish! Cross your fingers often when you place anything in your mouth for consumption. :(


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        • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

          I'm thinking (with not a full deck sometimes) what the hell? Myself (for more than a month) had shitty flu-like bullshit symptoms and just about everyone I know (LOTS of people) in the Chicago area and beyond (almost to Iowa) have been coming down with the same thing! Now the pups have this too? I guess it could be worse, like what the dolphins got and died a horrible death I'm sure. My theory is they knew they were dying and instead of giving their flesh to the predators they have had to avoid getting eaten by since they were born they beach themselves on land to deny their life-long enemy the chance to chow on their dead bodies. They are very smart I am sure they have concepts of such things, it is something they have to deal with to survive. They can live on one breath for how long? Maybe they couldn't breath anymore and used their last bit of strength to beach. Put yourself in their place, better yet the "scientists" put themselves in their place..literally! i'm just guessing here..food for thought tho!


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    " Official: “A lot of weird things out there”
    Not so much 'out there'.
    There can be no blaming the migration from distant lands, through the deep sea, through the 'garbage patch', etc., this time.
    The migration of the Pacific sardine is up and down the west coast of North America.

    Pacific Sardine

    http://www.sardineking.com/sardinespecs.html


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  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    Radiation damages cells. It bioaccumulates up the food chain. The smallest organisms are destroyed or mutated first.. then up the food chain it goes. Fukushima radiation has and continues to accumulate in our biosphere. Our "leaders" have forsaken all living organisms on this planet. Greed and power are on track to destroy all life on planet Earth. no nukes! No public money for nukes except shutdown! Life and nuclear technologies cannot co-exist.


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  • Checkmate

    Amazing on the dogs and now cats…do you think it maybe in the food???


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    • magikald magikald

      Of course its in the food. Radiation has been continuously pumped into the environment for the past 4 years every day. In fact, its happening right now. It is in the air and in the rain, which then contaminates the soil and anything that grows in that soil. Bio-accumulation is now starting to take its toll, IMO.


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    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      I suspect so… I have been trying to make sure the dog food I buy does not have fish in it… many many high end dog foods have fish in them.

      Also, I have been watching bird flu over the last few months, from the rsoe site, it clearly seems the places that had high concentrations of bird flu are now having the human form of bird flu..H1N5 mutation? More than likely. We shall see many "new" things.. that is what radiation does, it kills or mutates.


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      • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

        Turkey Farms decimated! "The unprecedented U.S. bird flu outbreak that is centered in Minnesota is likely to stick around for three to five years and possibly damage poultry farms across the nation, a top U.S. veterinary official said Thursday.

        “This is something very unusual, where we have seen bird flu adapt so well, ” John Clifford, chief veterinary officer for the U.S. Department of Agriculture, told a Minnesota House agriculture committee.

        The House voted unanimously late Thursday to pony up almost $900,000 to help state agencies battle the bug. For lost birds in Minnesota alone, the flu’s tab is already in the tens of millions of dollars.

        The USDA has already spent $15 million helping stricken farmers, and that’s just the beginning.

        The flu was confirmed Thursday on four more Minnesota turkey farms, bringing the total to 26, with over 1.6 million birds affected. The disease also was reported at a commercial turkey farm with 126,000 birds in western Wisconsin’s Barron County; and at a back yard flock of 40 birds in eastern Wisconsin."

        http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/300151221.html


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      • PurpleRain PurpleRain

        Have to agree with you. It is in everyone's food and water supply now. It's just that some are getting the fuku-local grown food more than the rest of us… (besides whatever they can re-label/mis-label and claim came from other areas of the country ..sent to China or elsewhere first..then to Canada..then right to all of our grocery store shelves).


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    • Johnny Blade

      They said that it does affect cats,but their nature makes it harder to spot & often missed or misdiagnosed. Here's an interesting link to the newsletter I found in my email a little while ago,it's a good website IMO,
      http://www.chicagonow.com/steve-dales-pet-world/2015/04/feline-behavior-conference/


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    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      The dog flu outbreak in Chicago is from Rescue Dogs imported from China by US Animal Rights people:
      http://www.npr.org/2015/04/15/399937728/chicago-area-dog-flu-outbreak-rises-to-over-1-000-cases
      Google "dog flu", Chicago", "china" to keep up on the real story here.
      NOT RADIATION, folks. Please calm down.
      And, BTW, I have stopped feeding any seafood chow to my cat for 4 years now.
      Suggest all pet owners do the same. ;)


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      • Johnny Blade

        Hi Phillip; I'm not one to suggest "radiation" by itself could be to blame here,but the idea of viruses & bacteria/germs being mutated by the radiation seems to be reasonable enough to remain on the table.[?] It's my understanding that "if" pet owners followed the advised precautions outlined by those dealing with the outbreak,the epidemic would "burn itself out" and no longer be a threat. I feed our little guy steaks,boiled chicken with carrots & rice,etc. In fact,he eats better than we do usually!lol…
        But I am getting worried after he'd just begun recovering from being really sick towards the end of Winter and the past few days has had some of the symptoms,including a loss of appetite even for his favorite treats[??!!] :( Hopefully he'll be ok? I read that MOST recover quickly with many showing little to no symptoms,but 8-10% are severely sickened & die! I'm a bit wound-up and emo at even the thought of another family member becoming sick & potentially die,especially my little furball who goes with me EVERYWHERE in the car and is the only one in the family who I can say hasn't talked shit or instigated drama now & then!! :( To my neighbors in Chicagoland and those pet-owners in the other States where cases have either been confirmed or suspected-just follow the vet's advice and avoid contact with other animals & places where the germs may have been deposited until this thing passes! It'll be ok :) TakeCare


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  • Homolumina Homolumina

    I am horrified, helplessly watching the cascade of death erasing all life – step by step, no mercy – fizz fizz fizz – Life is order, let's reverse it all back into chaos. Yes, let's have a death party – celebrating the grim reaper who is now bringing in big harvest. All is unbearable to me. The skies flaming red and pink, chem-trails being blown up over us every day, plants dying, animals disappearing, I am walking through a dying world here in California. Will see how many fruit will be mutated in my garden this year. I am watching – watching our breathtakingly beautiful world dying. My love to my community here.


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  • Nick

    Tragic…..

    ….just as enough humans are realizing plants that have evolved for centuries as "medicine", we are destroying our world at a pace
    never seen in history….

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/16/opinions/medical-marijuana-revolution-sanjay-gupta/index.html

    The war on drugs is bogus.


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  • bo bo

    Hi.. I posted this query in the webcam forum but since it seems to have gotten buried I'll post again.

    I have a big question regarding I-131 in Tokyo sewage as signature of on-going fission-criticality in Fukushima.

    I dug up a comnent by bobby1 on his blog where he says although there have been INCREASED I-131 levels in Chiba sewage in 2012& 2013 ( the one Phillip always talks about ), I-131 waned disappeared by 2014 and have been N/D currently.

    Of course, there is always a big chance the gesui numbers are fudged. But suppose this data of NO I-131 is true, is it possible, when coria are SO deep underground ( as AirSepTech has said – temp in unit 1 so much cooler than expected yet robot vid shows steam from below- indicateing there's high temps much deeper underground, possibly in contact with aquifier) that even if there IS fissioning and criticalities, I-131 stays buried underground, and don't show up in atmospheric & shallow groundwell waters ?


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    • bo bo

      Oops sorry – 'gesui' means sewage

      Anyways I'm so confused by what we see on webcam, and all that steam the little robot saw, and no I-131 in sewage.

      Maybe it's simply a cover-up but anyways, curious to know what others think of this.


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      • bo bo

        My original question is here http://enenews.com/forum-fukushima-webcam-discussion-thread-dec-26-1013-present/comment-page-87#comment-657886

        There's a link for the current Tokyo sewage data, and I left instruction for pulling up English pages from that link.


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      • chemistry physics –

        what is in the sewage that may "neutralize" any isotope

        or is time a factor

        it may not be a data fudge


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        • bo bo

          Thanks obvious :)
          Your input is appreciated.. I'm stuck between those who say 'then show us the I-131' and others who point to 2013 data and say 'see!! I-131 detected!' ( but I wonder, what about NOW..?) & caught being called fearmonger by former and fuku denier, agent by the latter.

          I just want to know.. why..?
          I mean, we are seeing all that steam in unit 1 & on webcams, so there is visual evidence..


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          • Sickputer

            Bo types these pixels of observation:

            "we are seeing all that steam in unit 1 & on webcams, so there is visual evidence..[of radioactive iodine]

            SP: You answered your own question. Of course there are still I-131 releases. The cores are not under control…except under their OWN control. They have an slien life the scientists don't want to admit. The Japanese scientists realize this fully…this monster technology is cognizant in an other worldly manner.

            The nucleoapes started a process that is bombing us into a new Stone Age. They can't bring themselves to admit they failed the human race. And the world's ecosystem.


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          • yeah,nothing can be determined or said until the data is collected and reported and verified, and, sadly, that is an issue. Who can we trust? I advocate guerrilla labs. pronto.


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          • General User General User

            @bo
            A not so brief reply to your Iodine question.

            Remember in the early hours of any simple meltdown, the policy is to route the emergency vent releases through a water bath. A water bath is:
            A tube that opens under water, this will capture a large quantity of gasses and particles. Remember in 2011 when they boiled away the water and continued to vent into open air?

            With the corium proposed to be deep underground with a column of water above it, that water will capture large quantity s of all things emitted by the core.
            __________________________

            Perhaps the robot images are showing the rapid evaporation of very hot, but not boiling water in the lava tubes?
            Just as my coffee cup 'steams' at less than boiling temps in air at room temperature-
            The speed of the rising steam would suggest that there is a considerable amount of heat being generated even after some thousand s of days!

            Peace All


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            • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

              General User answers Bo's very good question this way:
              "With the corium proposed to be deep underground with a column of water above it, that water will capture large quantity s of all things emitted by the core."
              The cores seem to be moving down still, increasing the length of the water column, which acts to lessen the emissions risint to the surface of the ground as steam and vapors.
              Use this graph, Bo:
              http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Dc0sz3lG5EE/VG9STIx4JAI/AAAAAAAADs0/NcEiXoxjDQQ/s1600/iodine%2Btokyo%2Bsewage%2B2014.GIF
              I, for one, do not believe that the Iodine-131, nor the criticalities of the 3 missing corium, are diminishing.
              They seem, in fact, to be increasing, as time goes on, the deeper they go.

              As for the mitigation of the water column in the corium lava tubes:
              I hope that this is correct, that in the long run, as the corium sinks deeper and deeper into the Earth, that the Iodine-131 will begin to diminish.
              I just haven't seen that data.

              1/30,000,000,000 of a gram of Iodine-131 is considered to be a fatal dose. (See related posts on Iodine-131 yesterday).

              That is the amount in the smallest dust mote in the air in your house, from Fukushima, breathed in by your loving spouse, by your children, and by your grandchildren every night as they sleep.
              Are you angry, yet?


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              • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

                A Generla User gem: "The speed of the rising steam would suggest that there is a considerable amount of heat being generated even after some thousands of days!"

                Got that right! The corium seems to be getting hotter as time goes on, and the deeper it goes.
                The Iodine-131 graph indicates that the criticalities have been increasing over time.
                Compare the most recent videos with older videos of Unit2, taken at the level of the steel grates in Unit 2 containment a couple of years ago. Then, there were lazy whisps of steam, and calm water below. Now, after two more years, the corium lava tube exhaust seens now to be much stronger.


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              • Sam Sam

                Zenon induced mental fog in general
                population. Shopping is the religion.
                Lives of "ordinary citizen will not be
                bothered by all this Nuclear stuff.
                The propaganda and normalcy bias
                precludes anger upswelling. We all
                here would like to believe otherwise;
                Even JC had trouble arousing the
                Holy Land to his message. People
                will be too compromised in the end
                to do anything. Kind of glum but
                reality cannot be denied nor magically
                created as it is done now. Fraud and
                lies rule the day.
                According to the nucleoapes the corrium
                is like a charcoal ember, glowing bright
                but contained , no danger and will cool
                as the KOOL -AID is passed around for
                all to drink.


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            • bo bo

              Thank u General User, PUN, very interesting points.

              I am glad to know there is actually a scientific version that explains the 'sealed off I-131 hypothesis'

              Because for some reason I have this odd feeling that data of the current Tokyo sewage isn't fudged ( don't ask me why I think they won't lie ) but I also do believe there is on going criticality.. and I was caught in a pickle between 2 camps, unable to explain my thoughts…

              The milk data! Yes I forgot about that too thank u labrats, for the reminder.
              Well then now I have a mission – what about the CURRENT I-131 milk data in JAPAN ?

              There are several trusted guerilla labs in Japan, mainly for food – I can contact them and ask.


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              • razzz razzz

                Iodine-131 is a product of fission. The melts would have to be still fissioning for it to be present.

                Iodine-131 is sometimes purposely made for medical uses as a tracer and could account for some being found in sewage

                There are other radioactive iodine elements that are present from fission.

                Would be more enlightening if you could find someone testing for how much uranium or plutonium or strontium or cesium(s) or long lived radioiodine is being found in sewage. All would be continuously excreted from bodies and found in sewage for various reasons but mainly because of Daiichi's cores melting down and out.

                The Daiichi melts if deep in the ground would have flowing groundwater passing above them and carrying off heat and radioactive particles before reaching directly above to be visible at ground level so that must mean the melt is still near or in the basement at Unit 1 since steam is rising from the standing pooled water probably due to decay heat. Any ongoing fission would be a rare occurrence at this point unless the melts were disturbed.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine-131


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                • General User General User

                  @razz

                  I want to agree with you, and suspect the melts are not as deep as some here suggest.
                  With the immense amount of 'ground water' or 'water table' above the level of the base mat. I suggest that the melt could be 'floating' on a cushion of super heated steam. It is an aquifer, vast amounts of water are flowing through the rock!

                  On the other hand, I must disagree with your suggestion that fission has reduced to an 'rare occurrence'
                  One of the trolls here [80 days ago] stated that the immense fission over the last 4 years of uncontrolled reactions had created a considerable amount of plutonium!

                  That would account for a portion of the seemingly hotter reactions of late, Add the pressure increase of some 100's of feet below sea level, acting upon the corium- compressing it upon its self as a pit {also described as a sphere}.

                  Can anyone suggest the ratio of Iodine produced by uranium fission, versus plutonium fission?
                  ____________________________
                  I am 10 miles + 1250 feet from beaver valley power station:
                  FirstEnergy Nuclear Operating Co.'s 933-MW Beaver Valley-[unit] 2 in Pennsylvania is about to restart after a refuelling outage. Unit One is running at 50% power with a primary circulation water pump down.

                  Anyone want to guess/wager if there is MOX in there??

                  Peace All


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                  • General User General User

                    http://powersource.post-gazette.com/powersource/companies-powersource/2015/03/22/At-FirstEnergy-s-Beaver-Valley-plant-upgrades-are-underway-in-response-to-the-Fukushima-disaster/stories/201503110002

                    At Beaver Valley, which sits a mere 34 miles from Pittsburgh’s city center, FirstEnergy{FENOC} is in the initial stages of rolling out more than two dozen safety recommendations drawn up by both industry and federal regulators after the Fukushima accident. The Akron, Ohio-based company owns three nuclear plants. Including the famed Fenoc's 908-MW Davis-Besse in Ohio;

                    Peace All


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                  • razzz razzz

                    From that Wiki link, if anyone would bother to read it…

                    "…131-I is a fission product with a yield of 2.878% from uranium-235,[10] and can be released in nuclear weapons tests and nuclear accidents. However, the short half-life means it is not present in significant quantities in cooled spent nuclear fuel, unlike iodine-129 whose half-life is nearly a billion times that of I-131…"

                    Plutonium produced and remaining in spent fuel is about 1% when the original fuel pellets were enriched at 2%-3%.

                    That is somewhat of guide of part of the inventory present.

                    Unfortunately, is not known how much fission took place and created more new radioactive products after the (3) cores melted down and out. I am sure GE knows to the gram how much of every radionuclide (elements) were present when the reactor SCRAMed. After the meltdowns, any re-criticalities were random and difficult to account for.

                    200-300 tons or 47,961-71,942 gallons of daily underground water flowing through the site makes for decent heat removal from the melts. I bet that water has a good chill on it before passing by the melts, too. This besides whatever amount of cooling water TEPCO says they shower on the melts.

                    Wishing the melts balled up into Pu pits and made lava tubes on their way to China seems illogical at this point.


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          • GOM GOM

            Everything you see is looped or edited..There is no one there Bo.


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  • Pete

    NOAA isn't even investigating any of these unusual mortality events or dead whales or orcas for traces of fukushima contamination.

    Pathetic, they should be fired and publicly shamed, since we don't cane people here. A pity.


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    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      They have the technology to see it all. There is no need to investigate what they already know to be true. We have ridiculous capabilities to detect nuclear emissions, not just from here on Earth, but from satellites too..


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    • they abdicated their responsibility to WHOI, big payoffs via funding mechanisms like grants etc

      like EPA abdicated to enviroreporter, who does do a better job than WHOI, but, still, I wonder – how much better could they be sans gov/industry funding/collusion…


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    • GOM GOM

      Pete
      It's game over so the elitist are uber building bunkers. Hell, Abe ordered one for himself..check out the Walmart clan underground fortress complete with stocked lake and armed guards.


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  • humptydumpty humptydumpty

    Anybody who is…

    baffled
    mystified
    befuddled
    dumbfounded
    bewildered
    puzzled
    confounded
    stumped

    …is an IDIOT.


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  • Skydiving@56Mike

    Thank you Obvious, speaking of sewage,(re NOVA), clostridium difficle, after we've all been thoroughly irradiated to where no antibiotic's will
    help, guess what we'll be snorting, have fun with that!


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  • Articles from 1985 when the last ban on sardines was in effect:

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-01-01/features/8501010179_1_sardines-cannery-row-monterey-bay

    El Nino data from 1983 indicative of southward sardine migration in search of plankton:

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-01-01/features/8501010179_1_sardines-cannery-row-monterey-bay

    OT but as usual applies to the context of the story…
    I have noted a stench of Hydrogen Sulfide in the air here in S Nevada. Many believe it is the sewers but It can be smelled even west of the city up in the pass to Pahrump. Comments on the funky smell on the west coast here plz. Thanks. The death in the sea will soon be a bad smell for you and me…


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    The blob, a mystery.
    Yes, but Steve McQueen isn't about to take the lead role.

    Mystery Blob in the Pacific Messes Up Us Weather And Eco-systems
    April 15 2015

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27362-mystery-blob-in-the-pacific-messes-up-us-weather-and-ecosystems.html#.VS_xsXlMuM9

    Looking at the temperature map, it seems to me a rather good description of where accumulation and bio-accumulation would be located.
    Four years later, the tremendous amount of chemicals/materials from the tsunami added to a polluted and fragile environment,
    and the somehow supposedly innocuous tremendous amount of radioactive material added to the same.

    CRW.
    Chemical Reactive Warming.


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  • Nick

    The Blob gets much of it's heat from:

    http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/hmi_igr/1024/latest.html

    http://www.spaceweather.com/

    I also think underseas black smokers are going full bore with "new" rents in the earth's crust since 3/11/11 adding to the heat load.

    Ofcourse TF2 is contributing…but not really heat….but indirectly due to diminished plankton which enables a rapid heating of surface waters.

    http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/Products/ocean/sst/contour/


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  • GOM GOM

    The Kuroshio Current [Gyre] and Extension held the radiation at bay and pushed it to Hawaii and the Barents Sea for about 2 years. (Hawaii is now uninhabitable)
    My own research concludes that now, after about said time, we would start to see more of an impact on the Pacific, heading our way. And that is precisely why the Germans studies are so important and why they conclude we will start seeing full impact around 2016.
    This is just warming up.


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  • demise demise

    I live in Southern California in a middle class neighborhood about 10 miles from the beach. Everyone I talk knows absolutely nothing about troubles in the Pacific and the one who do know anything are only regurgitating the local news that there is nothing to worry about.

    We are in a state of denial and ignorance and when the beach front property value drops like a rock, the local, state tax streams will drop too and everyone will be foreclosing and leaving the state.
    That's when the message will be felt in DC when the richest state revolts.

    The ocean is poisoned by radiation and will only get worse and worse and eventually will be totally collapsed and dead. A vast
    majority of people have no idea about this or what's going on.

    However, there is a pending debt bubble crisis that will hit in about 6-7 months. It will make 2008 look like a picnic. This will probably happen before everyone opens their eyes to the Pacific Ocean problem and it will drop to the bottom of their fix list.
    When your hungry you'll eat anything.


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    • GOM GOM

      demise
      Love your post. Aren't you the clever one. Following the fiscal status AND the end of the world. Around October right? Food will shoot the moon..

      My kid is in San Diego. Warned her that 6 million people trying to leave across the desert..well, you get it.
      Any thoughts on the upcoming desalination plants?


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  • Sam Sam

    HEADLINE IN PRESS DEMOCRAT OF SONOMA COUNTY

    ON THE CALIFORNIA NORTHERN COAST IN MARIN COUNTY

    250 native elk die at Point Reyes
    The National Park Service on Thursday confirmed the elk died inside a fenced preserve from 2012 to 2014.

    WE NEED TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THIS.
    Where are the toxicology reports on this?
    Are the grazing cows and cattle next?


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  • VyseLegendaire VyseLegendaire

    Well they were late to the party. This has been ongoing for years.


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  • Skydiving@56Mike

    To GOM, your 3:30 message re Hawaii, can you elaborate, do you have contact's there?


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Near site of Fukushima disaster, birds still in peril April 16, 2015

    Researchers are still trying to pinpoint the exact reason for the decline and the role played by the Fukushima disaster. Japan was hit by an earthquake on March 11, 2011, which produced a tsunami that crippled backup generators at Fukushima Daiichi, setting off the worst nuclear catastrophe since Chernobyl.

    In earlier work in Fukushima, he found the nuclear disaster had taken a toll on a range of species, causing genetic damage to birds, monkeys, butterflies and other insects. A study he published earlier this month in the journal Nature Scientific Reports showed that tests on individual barn swallow nestlings failed to show genetic damage as a result of radioactivity. Still, the more detailed study demonstrated a population decline relative to the amount of radiation both in numbers and fraction of juveniles.

    "We were working with a relatively small range of background exposures in this study because we weren't able to get into the hottest areas that first summer after the disaster, and we were only able to get to some medium-hot areas the following summer," Mousseau said. "So we had relatively little statistical power to detect those kinds of relationships, especially when you combine that with the fact that there are so few barn swallows left."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fukushima-disaster-taking-a-toll-on-birds/


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  • DUD DisasterInterpretationDissorder

    Anyone noticed how many views this thread has.. :shock:


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  • Jebus Jebus

    LOL! I sure hope these guys are viewing this thread…

    US Fishery Management Under MSA Improves Again with Overfished, Overfishing Numbers at All-Time Low

    US fishery management under Magnuson continues to work according to NOAA's latest annual status report released this week. Last year US fisheries recorded 7 percent reductions in both the number of fisheries currently experiencing overfishing and the amount of fisheries whose stocks are overfished.

    In NOAA's 2014 Status of US Fisheries report the number of domestic fish stocks listed as overfished or subject to overfishing has dropped to an all-time low since 1997, when NOAA began tracking stock status. By the end of last year 26 stocks were on the overfishing list and 37 stocks were on the overfished list. Each of these numbers were all-time lows for US fisheries. In total NOAA tracks 469 managed stocks and stock complexes in 46 fishery management plans…

    Pay here to read more…

    http://www.seafoodnews.com/Story/972041/US-Fishery-Management-Under-MSA-Improves-Again-with-Overfished-Overfishing-Numbers-at-All-Time-Low

    Everythings fine, nice going.

    They should start giving out the Gold Starfish Award to all these fine…

    Ahhh, why bother…


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  • Jebus Jebus

    From Seafood News… Really…

    Western Atlantic Blufin Tuna a Success Story, Comes off U.S. "Overfishing" List

    SEAFOODNEWS.COM [Press Herald] By Tom Bell – April 16, 2015 –

    The bluefin tuna is on the rebound a decade after it symbolized the failure of international fisheries management. Some scientists and Maine fishermen say the assessment by federal regulators is overdue.

    U.S. fishery managers announced Wednesday that they are removing bluefin tuna from the list of species subject to overfishing, and plan to recommend to an international body that the catch quota for the U.S. be increased.

    “That is one of the success stories,” said Alan Risenhoover, director of the NOAA Fisheries Service’s Office of Sustainable Fisheries.

    http://www.seafoodnews.com/

    :| Welcome to the Pacific Rim Sanctuary.

    The worlds most radioactive ocean preserve.

    We have the most complete catalog of pictures and video's of all the many diversified creatures that were once here.

    And over here, we have the Pacific Ocean's last surviving bluefin tuna.

    We call him Truman…


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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    "A lot of weird things out there" Yeah no shit Sherlock! Coming to your neighborhood soon! Gonna be weird for sure, not the "good" kind of weird mind you! Might wanna shut down that shitbox GE reactor down the way before it goes kablooey! Just sayin!


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  • Jebus Jebus

    “The population isn’t replacing itself,” Hill said…

    GE, We Bring Results! Nothing else matters…


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  • Pacific Ocean tipping point?

    http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2014/11/pacific-ocean-tipping-points.html

    I saw the depleted tide pools in la Jolla CA. I saw the decline in insects that has yet to reverse.


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  • hbjon hbjon

    Has the radiation field hit Canada yet? How y'all doing up there?


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  • lickerface lickerface

    I thought it is worth mentioning that Worchestchire Sauce, which is used in restaurants everywhere, has anchovies in its recipe. Many people are (or will be) potentially (likely) poisoning themselves by continuing to use it for ingestion. Wouldn't anchovies be similar to sardines in regards to declining population? Any current stats?

    Please list foods and products that utilize sardines.

    Cat food
    Dog food
    Lea & Perrins Worchestchire Sauce could be using sardines interchangeably with anchovies?
    Obviously cans of sardines…
    Chicken and turkey feed?
    Chicken eggs advertised as being enriched with omega-3's are because of sardine diet, right?


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    @GOM
    April 16, 2015 at 5:08 pm
    It's very difficult to live on a dying planet, watching helpless, as it all fades away.

    @Sam
    April 16, 2015 at 2:24 pm
    Maybe we need to talk about the cascade of grief we
    are suffering and will suffer as time goes on.

    —————————–
    Salutations to All who are here, helping me to maintain a bit of 'sanity' & 'normalcy'; yet reminding me of the dire straits before us
    We are a community: helping each other.

    /Back under my rock, before TPTB notice my new IP address.
    /Thank you; http://www.vipreantivirus.com [public service announcement]

    Peace All


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  • Sam Sam

    This has been a long thread already. Often times the theme of the story, the die off of
    Sardines along West Coast of America is a perfect metaphor of what may be coming
    our human way at some point in the years to come. So I reread the story and put
    us into it. It reads horrific. If I may with permission
    paraphrase and quote directly.

    Just In: Along entire West Coast there's been a decline in human babies surviving after
    birth. This has been going on for the last five years. Catastrophic. A Crisis so severe. Alarming as it will eventually decimate future of
    human kind. The population will face a collapse so severe that is downward spiral
    There is no future when the population is not replacing itself.

    This human collapse is the latest in a series of alarming declines in the ocean and land
    eco-systems along the West Coast of America.
    Strange diseases have been proliferating on the sea and land.

    When we talk of tipping points this surely would be one.
    Too Dark. There will be a new dawn in 3.5 hrs in Ca. Life does go on.


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  • Cisco Cisco

    The story of massive amounts of radioactive waste dumped off the US East and West coasts will soon become the next cover for the nuclear cabal's dismissing Fukushima's contamination for the latest diversion and possible explanation for the West coast die-offs. ClimateViewer.com has extensively mapped those East and West Coast dump sites with data points on the amounts dumped, but I am unable to provide the links.

    "Scientists find radioactive WWII aircraft carrier off San Francisco coast"
    "The USS Independence saw combat at Wake Island and other decisive battles against Japan in 1944 and 1945 and was later blasted with radiation in two South Pacific nuclear tests. The Navy deliberately sunk the contaminated ship in 1951 south of the Farallon Islands.

    The rediscovery of the USS Independence offers a fascinating glimpse into American military history and raises old questions about the safety of the Farallon Islands Radioactive Waste Dump — a vast region overlapping what is now a marine sanctuary where the federal government dumped nearly 48,000 barrels of low-level radioactive waste between 1946 and 1970."

    http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_27931161/scientists-find-radioactive-aircraft-carrier-off-san-francisco


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  • Nick

    TF2 has it's tentacles everywhere causing TFE.

    TFE: The Fukushima Effect: Causing all manner of material degradation and biological decline planet-wide.

    TF2: The Fukushima Fiasco.

    An example of TFE is the recent mandated education tests nation wide for English Language Arts (ELA). These tests are used to monitor students' progress grades 3-8. In New York State, huge percentages of students opted out, invalidating huge data chunks (you can't base a teacher's annual performance using a formula that weighs 50% of test results on a test in which only 70% of the kids actually TOOK the test…then there is the reality that the kids KNOW that this is all absurd and don't necessarily "do their best."…further skewing the data).

    Is that nuts or what? Now add in the fact that teachers spend MONTHS pre-testing and preparing the kids for the REAL test. Not exactly a progressive way of educating our children, yet mandated by federal law.

    Money goes to those who make the tests.

    The tests are given to figure out how the kids are doing. The kids could care less, opt out, skew the data big time.

    The test data is used by more folks to make money while they sit around a cherrywood conference data preparing statewide score cards for various school districts.

    TFE……..

    (actually I can't really blame Fukushima but it is the insanity of it all that IS relevant)


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  • Nick

    Just because we have a vast technological infrastructure does not mean it is actually sane.

    We barcode everything, right down to that itty bitty kiwi fruit in the supermarket isle.

    Computers hum, servers buzz, vast data pipelines stream, stream, and stream.

    Yet lost in all that is what it is all for (beyond making money for a select few!!) and usually the technological mining of data is an end in itself.

    So we build more servers, con folks into thinking that only nuclear power will power those vast server farms, and merrily peck an send selfies throughout the cyber universe.

    I use high tech everyday, yet I long for a more simple time. A time when we taught children rather than trained them.


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  • Nick

    TFE also creates vast wastelands:

    https://vimeo.com/92984683

    Not good.

    Out of sight out of mind…..


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Well none of us here like Nuclear as a source point for electrical generation. The continued promotion of this technology is wrong on all fronts. Way to many people getting sick and dying from it's use worldwide.

    It was a big mistake. :(

    Data mining will move forward quickly and whether it is used for good or bad is still out/up for debate. Progress can not be stopped no matter how much I dislike its very destructive planetary consequences.

    We can only hope that the abstract educational potential found in the data mining learning curve will enlighten those that come after us allowing them the ability to correct the damage that we here have already done to our world's ecosystems and environment…

    Michio Kaku clearly sees/envisions what is heading this way..


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  • Nick

    Risk assessment. Another stupid human construct since we are now in the land where probability says we shouldn't be (awol reactor cores, steaming fools pools, etc.).

    We base EVERYTHING on computer models.

    How dumb is that?

    The results are Fukushima. No one entered in data about tall tsunamis!


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  • Nick

    I can run a slew of apps for all manner of "educational" purposes, yet it is the child that can catch a butterfly and release it unharmed that learns
    lessons far more powerful than any computer usage can EVER show them.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    The learning curve is now reaching exponential expansion speeds unheard of..there may yet be hope.

    What we do here is very important and we here are now a large part of this data mining learning curve.. :)


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  • Nick

    At the PRECISE moment we get 1 billion people all viewing a viral video (with our vast server farm based economy) of
    dead dolphins on a Japanese beach, it will be too late to alter the poisoning of the Pacific.

    Oh wait…..we're already there!


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