Engineer: “Much more problem” — Destroyed Fukushima Unit 3 to never be reinforced over next 40 years (VIDEO)

Published: December 16th, 2012 at 11:19 pm ET
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Title: Update on Fukushima Part 1
Source: Yastel Yamada, Skilled Veterans Corps for Fukushima
Author: SocialUplifter
Date Published: Dec 7, 2012

Yastel Yamada, Engineer, Skilled Veterans Corps for Fukushima: [Unit 3] is much more contaminated than Unit 4 and no reinforcement work has been done yet.

And also much more problem is that there is no plan to reinforce this building in the 40 years clean-up project.

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Published: December 16th, 2012 at 11:19 pm ET
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36 comments to Engineer: “Much more problem” — Destroyed Fukushima Unit 3 to never be reinforced over next 40 years (VIDEO)

  • NoNukes NoNukes

    Cowards. Can't even say 40,000 years.


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  • lam335 lam335

    Does that mean we're going to have to worry about a big earthquake causing a spent fuel pool fire, not only until they empty #4 in the next several years, but until the middle of this century when they decide that they can "safely" begin to work at #3 again? Are there any plans to actually empty #3 yet, or is it too contaminated for that? Wouldn't it need to be reinforced before they could attempt to empty the fuel from it?


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  • patb2009

    TEPCO wants to like about the whole smash as oppposed to dealing with the troubles.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Melted nuclear fuel is permeating the country.


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  • snowwy snowwy

    does my memory fail me here or is there a question if there is anything left of unit 3 in unit 3?

    wasn't that one the MOX fuel reactor?


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    • I agree, they were not pumping any water into old unit 3, perhaps because it doesnt exist anymore.


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      • HoTaters

        Good point, you two. It was always my opinion there wasn't much left, just looking at the post-explosion pictures, and having watched the videos of the explosion. It looked like all the spent fuel in the SFP was probably vaporized when the reactor (?) exploded. I've never been able to figure out what happened. Didn't Arnie Gunderson say a prompt moderated criticality in the SFP caused the final, large explosion. From my viewing of the video sequences, there were three separate explosions. They can be heard on some of the videos where the sequence (and sound) is slowed down.

        Whatever happened to #3 has always been my biggest concern. Not that meltdowns and explosions in two other reactors weren't HUGE events, in and of themselves. But the MOX going Kaboom! always unnerved me. I guess the only good news is the new load of MOX supposedly hadn't gone in, yet, so there wasn't yet MOX stored in the SFP. Not that it didn't have a huge mess of plutonium (etc.) in it.

        I just saw a picture of #3 post-explosion, the other day. It's truly hard to imagine there was anything left of the reactor, or the spent fuel pool. The building appeared to have been leveled down to the bottom floor on two or three sides, and was just gone on one side.

        Have to wonder if we've EVER been told the truth about #3. What did the NRC say about it in their crypto-speak?


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        • HoTaters

          Stock, in your educated opinion, how much worse is it that #3 had mox in the reactor?

          And do you think we were told the truth, that the first load of MOX didn't go into the #3 reactor until October, 2010? (A very important question, IMHO.)

          Also — for someone not educated in nuclear science, why (in a nutshell) is the MOX so much more dangerous? (Other than having a higher Plutonium ratio to other elements in the fuel, that is.)

          There has been so much Tepco monkey business one hardly knows what to believe anymore.


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        • HoTaters

          My question answered today by Mr. Gunderson, himself. Just hadn't gotten to this one, yet.

          http://enenews.com/gundersen-new-video-expose-evidence-fairewinds-containments-blow-audio/comment-page-1#comment-315207

          Whew, this is ugly.


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          • HoTaters

            Containments not only blow, they blow to smithereens everything in and around them.

            For anyone who criticizes Arnie, think of how he and his wife must feel, knowing what they do about what happened at #3, and what has been done to keep the public from knowing the truth.

            They have put themselves at risk just by going back there to try to help. Going there is putting themselves in harm's way. It's pretty clear a large area of Honshu is now very contaminated.


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        • VanneV anne

          The MOX fuel to be replaced in the reactor was already in the SFP. And if there was weapons making facility in Unit#3 as well, there is no good news.

          Why didn't they learn something from Chernobyl of TMI or Santa Suzanna or other accidents in the US and in Russia? They obviously haven't learned anything from Fukushima either–hence, the present conference which is exposing many, many world leaders to huge amounts of radiation in an uninhabitable zone that should be an exclusion zone.

          I don't believe that Japan just had free and fair elections. The nucleocrats have taken over all the political systems everywhere. And their madness is creating one ELE after another.

          What happened to Tacomagrove?


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    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Yes that was the reactor with the MOX fuel that was detonated. The big boom, so to speak.


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  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    It seems like anybody knowledgeable would be able to infer from the radioactive fallout levels if unit 3 was completely destroyed. It was declared that if spent fuel pool 4 falls, it will be catastrophic to the biosphere, and you would suppose dramatic radiation readings. Surely Arnie Gundersen and others would be on this with some calculations?


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    • Radio VicFromOregon

      CodeShutdown, you are absolutely correct. In fact, you wouldn't even need radiation readings. The intensity and heat of the radiation would be unmistakable and deadly to all who came within range, which, i believe, is about a mile. Of course, there are some here who think that Arnie's tireless work to educate the world about the dangers of nuclear energy is actually a deceptive cover for a chance to shill in a very tricksy way for the nuclear energy industry, of whom, a chained lap dog they believe he is. I'm not precisely sure when this distrust began, but, he used a word like "pancaked blob" to describe what can happen to the corium as it flows out of a reactor and starts to cool and congeal like slag, and some folks really felt he should have used "molten freight train from hell" instead. So, it always pleases me when i see someone here at enenews speak of Arnie as an intelligent, well intentioned man who has everyone's best health and safety in mind, even if he prefers to use the language and words he thinks best describes the unfolding phenomenon of 3 triple melt-throughs and corium heading for the groundwater, a spf 4 global disaster, and the true underlying problem that the generators failing wouldn't have matter anyway because the cooling pumps were not submersible pumps and had been inundated with water, and that the earthquake damaged the reactors BEFORE the tsunami, and…. all Arnie's assertions.


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      • richard richard

        on your side note Vic, regarding AGs alliances. From what I've read, he is still pro-nuke. He is describing the faults and possible recoveries, but his words are couched so as to perpetuate the industry, but, in his mind, make it safer.

        He's pro-nuke, but suggests it can be safely managed by addressing the failings of fuku-d. As I read him.

        Don't be to disappointed when he turns his back on your anti-nuke stance – it's predictable.

        I've expressed my thoughts before on what to do with pro-nukers.


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        • Radio VicFromOregon

          richard, i'm not looking for allies or public personalities or any others to do what i should do myself, so i am never disappointed. I'm looking to each person to do what amount they are willing to do in order to make this world even marginally safer. Arnie does that.


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    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      They would be on this, if the truth ever came out.. but it has not, so there is little more that they can do, except GUESS.


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  • Radio VicFromOregon

    I believe you may find a rather large 25 foot piece of sheet metal that was accidentally pushed into the pool by the crane that was covering the holes in the roof above the number 3 spent fuel pool. You'll find footage of the cameras being lowered, can orient yourself to which pool you are above, etc. It's there, it's in bad shape, the damage is different than at SFP 4, which is more structural at the base while SFP 3 is more damaged in the fuel rods in the pool itself from the amount of debris that obviously fell into it when the roof blew. If ANY of the the spent fuel pools had lost their loads, ALL Fukushima workers would be dead in about 10 minutes or less, and anyone else for next hundreds of thousands of years. We're all mostly agreeing here than radiation is dangerous, right? So, that's a pretty good way to tell whether a sfp is still there or not regardless of how accurate measurements are being taken and reported or not. Every white suited person falling over dead on location is pretty obvious to most folks. That's just one event that even TEPCO could not hide. In fact, had any pool vaporized, and given pool 3, the heaviest of the atomic weights with the Mox fuel which would tend to fall right back to ground within a mile radius, i'd expect not a single engineer would be found within 50 miles of the place, let alone the occasional TEPCO exec.


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    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      How do we know what would happen if the worst case scenario really did happen?

      The wind was strong and blowing out over the ocean at the time of the explosion. Fuel rods were blown in a radius of up to 3 kilometers, but our bet is that most of them went downwind, and into the ocean, possibly further than 3 kilometers out.

      Most of the explosive force went straight up, to HIGH ALTITUDES, quite possibly into the jet stream.

      Being so sure of what happened, and being so certain why the worst did NOT happen, could be a huge and mistaken assumption.

      We may NEVER know for sure what really happened, because if the intent, motivation and ability is there to cover it all up or create some other 'faux' reality, it will be done.

      Plutonium is so dangerously lethal in such small amounts..

      But even if everyone around the world inhaled a lethal dose of plutonium nano particles, it takes time for the cancers to develop and grow in the areas where the invisible nano particles settle inside the body.

      Time will tell… watch for a steadily increasing cancer rate.. We are already at 1 out of 3 people developing cancer in their lifetime. This is already an epidemic, much of it due to the atomic bomb testing era.

      Now the latency period for cancers initiated back then during the 'atoms for peace' open air testing of 2400 nuclear weapons is coming home to roost, but which doctor will explain that link?

      NONE. Most deny it.

      Where will the cancer rate go from…


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      • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

        Supposedly, the radiation around #3 is too high for humans to work in.

        Only robots are allowed around that area. Plus, there is a pit with smoking steam coming out of it from a molten corium heading downwards, right next to #3.

        So is anything worse than this?

        We can't think of anything worse, other than #4 SFP falling over and reducing FuKU to a no human can enter and stay alive status and condemning the rest of the world to a life extinction event.


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      • Radio VicFromOregon

        AGreenRoad, you are one of the primo online nuclear info educators and i visit your site often for the many resources you've gathered there. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I still hold out that not all is lost and here is why i don't tend to agree that the worst has already happened – if we decide to throw out all common knowledge of what constitutes radiation levels and detection, and decide that we can't possibly know, then we will have given up our one means of detecting it, trying, when possible, to contain it, and to prevent further radiological releases. I will simply not accept that detection is not possible. It is ALWAYS, and has always been possible. If it is undetectable, then it becomes pointless to educate people about its dangers and what steps to take where possible. If it is undetectable, then it is also without effect and taking precautions becomes unnecessary. That is already the argument of TEPCO – if it is undetectable, then it is not harmful. And, they would be correct if it were true. But, it isn't. The question is – do we trust their results? Do we trust Radnet? Do we trust one study or another? But, the remains of a spent fuel pool, which would only partly be vaporized while most remained scattered on site from an initial explosion could not be disguised. But, even if all of it vaporized, which would require a few tricks of defeating physics as we know it, and went into the sea ad some travelled around the world on the winds…


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        • Radio VicFromOregon

          con't. AGR… on the winds, the levels would be making the cheapest handheld geiger counter go off constantly anywhere along the entire coast of Japan, including the immediate sea, the West Coast of the US, and, many points around the world each time the radiation washed down from above. That is why preventing these pools from spilling is so very critical and important.


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  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    How Dangerous Is 400-600 Pounds Of Plutonium Nano Particle Dust Liberated By Fukushima? Via A Green Road http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/how-dangerous-is-400-600-pounds-of.html

    Fukushima Nano Bucky Balls Weaponized With Uranium, Plutonium, And Cesium; via A Green Road
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/10/bucky-balls-and-fukushima-what-is-danger.html


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  • pcjensen

    Mox is very popular Follow the MOX fallout trail "Say, was Fukushima Daiichi Unit-3 producing Rocket Fuel" http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/forum/218/was-fukushima-daiichi-unit-3-producing-rocket-fuel.2012-08-23 and

    "The smoke and mirrors at Fukushima 1 seem to obscure a steady purpose, an iron will and a grim task unknown to outsiders. The most logical explanation: The nuclear industry and government agencies are scrambling to prevent the discovery of atomic-bomb research facilities hidden inside Japan’s civilian nuclear power plants.

    A secret nuclear weapons program is a ghost in the machine, detectable only when the system of information control momentarily lapses or breaks down. A close look must be taken at the gap between the official account and unexpected events." source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/secret-weapons-program-inside-fukushima-nuclear-plant/24275 and

    Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Mutual_Cooperation_and_Security_between_the_United_States_and_Japan and

    "Japanese-Russian Agreement to Establish a Nuclear Facility for MOX Fabrication and Spent Fuel Storage in the Russian Far East"

    Discussion Paper 98-25, Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University

    Author: Matthew Bunn, Associate Professor of Public Policy; Co-Principal Investigator, Project on Managing the Atom http://belfercenter.hks.harvard


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