EPA: Models show “greater potential impact” to US West Coast from rainfall containing Fukushima radioactive material — California sea water with over 10 Million pCi/m3 of iodine-131 found in sample squeezed out of seaweed

Published: September 9th, 2014 at 8:06 pm ET
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Environmental Protection Agency — Response to Fukushima Japan Nuclear Emergency: “Sea Water — Radioactive material released to ocean [by] intentional release of contaminated water used for cooling [and] leakage from damaged reactor… Modeling indicates greater potential impact to US coastal areas from precipitation than from [ocean] transport.”

See also: "Not for Distribution, Internal Use Only": US Energy Dept. estimated Fukushima release up to 10,000 times larger than nuclear regulators predicted -- 'Supercore' scenario an underestimate?

Published: September 9th, 2014 at 8:06 pm ET
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91 comments to EPA: Models show “greater potential impact” to US West Coast from rainfall containing Fukushima radioactive material — California sea water with over 10 Million pCi/m3 of iodine-131 found in sample squeezed out of seaweed

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    Corn a plenty here in the badger state. The tips are all a reddish, purple/brown. If your looking it's like a sea in the wind. I am pretty observant and have watched the vast corn sea sway this time of year a plenty. It can be mesmerizing. It was always a cream sea or shades of yellow to white. I don't ever recall this color.

    Rain rain go away, I'll miss you dearly till another day.


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    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

      Tree's are already dropping some leaves here , but its still smooth wetter in belgium , but the longer they are without leaves , the better they can go tru winter , was the quick follow up when they announced it..
      That may sound tru , so maybe :

      tree's can predict winter going to be extreme harsh , that could be as well..very well..
      or its from outside pollution breaking level point…
      or both…
      or maybe count in the lack of bee "activity" during the summer too ..


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  • General User General User

    Interesting, the PDF link on the headline is a 32 page power-point like report "c12-bro-p.pdf" in this The EPA proudly states that detected levels are much below actionable standards.

    PROBLEM, Data is clearly marked April 22-25, May 3rd, June 4th.
    Where is the Data from MARCH? Just how high was that initial spike?


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  • Kerry Kerry

    That burgundy color, I'm told by my local garden center, is a lack of potassium. It's affecting about half of my garden, and flowers this year. The only pattern I see is the plants that are out in the open are affected the most. Plants under the eaves of the house, and on the covered porch are doing ok. I've had to replant out front twice this year.

    Is it possible that something is 'displacing' the potassium? (Crickets chirp…)


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    • rogerthat

      nope, lack of potassium means people have eaten all the bananas lol


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    • what I've learned about the chemtrails mix – results in blocking plants' ability to absorb/uptake nutrients….


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    • We Not They Finally

      Kerry, in humans, cesium displaces potassium. Don't know why it would be different for plants. You say the differing colors are for the outdoor plants exposed to the rain. Maybe that is the quick (however unpleasant) explanation.

      And humans totally need to monitor their potassium levels. It's a simple blood test if one likes. But meanwhile, there are good natural nutritional sources. Carrots is probably the best, also potatoes and bananas. And BEE POLLEN is great for that — if one is not allergic.

      It's the bombardment of cesium that causes so many more heart attacks because it weakens the heart muscle.


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      • itsanuclearwar

        What happens is the barium depletes the potassium in the human body and has adverse effects on plants through the soil. The body, takes up cesium as potassium.
        The barium is from all of the chemtrails

        "STOP SPRAYING CALIFORNIA!
        California Chemtrail Information – Barium Salts

        Barium levels found in chemtrail samples were at 6.8 ppm or “more than six times the toxic level set by the EPA.”

        Barium is toxic to humans and animals and causes a dramatic drop in potassium levels in the body. For this reason (and others), barium is known to considerably increase the frequency of heart attacks in persons 65 years and older.

        The Natural Earth's biological systems are slowly beginning to fail. Rhizobacteria-endomycorrhizae, a critical microbial organism, is slowly becoming extinct in soils due to Barium and Aluminum heavy-metal toxicities. This microbe is responsible for the transfer of nutrients from soils-matrix to the plants/trees feeder-root system. The Barium/Aluminum heavy-metal salts are alkaline, i.e. Barium Hydroxide, and are shifting the base-line pH of surface soils and waters to new highs – elevated enough that certain plant species cannot survive. According to our experts in this field, without this microbe, natural plant growth is impossible. The ChemTrails are spoiling our Infinite Natural Eco-System and no one is watching, albeit the evidence for microbial extinction events abound."
        http://www.stopsprayingcalifornia.com/Barium


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        • itsanuclearwar

          Anyone that claims TPTB are not killing us off is either delusional or a paid shill, and there are to many of both.


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          • earthsmith earthsmith

            O.k. There was heavy spraying this year even winter. Any given day you could look up and spot one possibly more in the act. Infuriates me…so mad then I wish bad things on them and that makes me sick.on top of their sh=t. No one I know cares or even tries to look or just a eehhh and shuffle on. There was an average amount of snow this year. The earth was reddish brown through the thaw. Plus plenty of rain this season. I get the white spots on my lilac trees and ground cover as well.
            Their is also heavy emissions from Fuku that is making it's lasting Mark.
            It's sad, there is a tremendous farmers market only a mile away from me. Only a few grow some produce in green houses but not because of Fuku just variety/space. It kinda feels like it seems to far fetched.

            Thanks and peace to all!


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      • 4Yahshua

        9~11~5995 (out of 6000) Sad Remembrance of 9/11
        Until 3~11~11 the most evil act of this 33 year Bush Senior
        New World Order under The Vatican's Christian CROSS, Revelation 13:18 The Last Evil Days of "Manmean". Yahshua the Messiah
        returns VERY SOON! HalleluYah Hebrew: Praise ye Yah!

        Bee pollen, boron, and potassium capsules are very reasonable at
        Swanson Vitamins.


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      • Kerry Kerry

        I must note, after thinking about my dying garden, the main factor (in my uneducated mind) is 'full sunlight'. The plants (which were all greenhouse bought), seemed to suffer the most if they had exposure to full sun. Only three small pumpkins 9from organic seed) made it, out of about twenty. Most of them just shriveled away to nothing after starting to grow, others rotted on the vine. The leaves on the vines are covered by a gray fungus, yet they continue to put out new shoots. The marigolds out front in the sun all day turned a burgundy/yellow and died. Tomatoes never ripened, just stayed kinda yellow and orange, and were ugly looking, with weeping fissures on them. The cherry tomatoes were well shaped and plump, but didn't fully ripen either. Yellow and red potato vines are struggling no mater where I planted them, but the green ones and the philodendrons are doing great however. My two year old maple tree is doing fine as well as my crabgrass lawn. Other potted plants I have recovered a little, and kept flowering after I moved them to the North side of the house.

        Methinks it may be a 1-2-3 punch of Barium, Cesium, plus increased electromagnetic radiation taking out the plants. My reddish/yellow plants suffer the most, while the green/bluish ones thrive…


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        • Kerry Kerry

          TOoadd…

          My plants under the eaves get a TON of rainwater, and I collect it in a rain-barrel for watering, don't use tap water. My soil is good, proper pH, no chemical fertilizer/pesticides. As an avid gardener, and a stay at home parent, I have a lot of quality time and effort put into my plants, and it is frustrating the bejesus out of me…


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  • rogerthat

    … that's why they're feeling poorly, all that naturally occurring radiation they've gobbled up, will they never learn. cloud cuckoo land, where there's no birds and bees, only lemonade trees and a big rock candy mountain.


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  • rogerthat

    … as a public service, and to hide the fuckushima necklace, the nrc will soon, i am told, be issuing scarves with pictures of any of the perps you care to nominate. Free to all deserving recipients.


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  • Ya. It's too bad about the rain … and the jet streams.
    And no one knows. lol

    For those who want to change that, please, Get the Rad Word out

    Fukushima Business Cards 4 U! And everyone else, too!
    http://tinyurl.com/fukushimabusinesscard4u

    These nifty cards are easy to print and pass out.
    Or leave randomly, where ever you please. Distribute liberally.

    Dana is doing his part. . .

    Fukushima Sep 9th 2014 Salt Spring Island
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GG9jSGxZGY

    1278 days of ongoing Fukushima. Or 3 years, 5 months, 30 days. 15,438 downloads since June. 650 of those since this morning :)

    All of Us who come to ENE need to follow and continue suit.

    Other easy to use resources for sharing the Rad News
    http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation/comment-page-13#comment-478924

    Thank you.


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  • charlie3

    Would Californian, Washington State, and Oregon wines be effected by this radioactive fallout in the post 2011 vintages?


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  • Jebus Jebus

    The futures so bright, gotta wear tyvec, a mask, and a lead apron…

    A blast from the future past.

    October 11, 2007 4:00 AM PDT
    Newsmaker: The public face of nuclear power in the U.S.

    It's probably one of the toughest talking gigs in the country. As CEO of the Nuclear Energy Institute, retired Navy Adm. Frank Bowman serves as the public face for the U.S. nuclear industry.

    This is not an all-in love affair. They all have, not all, but many have legitimate concerns. And it's my position that we (the nuclear power industry) owe it to these people who have devoted their entire careers to public service, or to ordinary citizens who are concerned about these issues, to talk to them factually, adult to adult, and not be arrogant about it.

    Was attitude a problem in the past?
    Bowman: I think to a certain extent. After Three Mile Island happened, there was a tendency to sort of want to dive into the fox holes. I think we are taking a more serious effort in addressing peoples' concerns.

    http://news.cnet.com/The-public-face-of-nuclear-power-in-the-U.S./2100-11392_3-6212838.html

    Are we there yet?


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  • Ron

    This is how these things always work. It's always the same. The first response is always deny, deny, deny. They only admit that something is wrong when becomes obvious and undeniable. But by then it's too late.

    What a wretched race. So sad for the innocent, both human and other species.


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  • zurls zurls

    Two things I thought I'd mention. I live in Seattle. I've worked with preschool kids for the past 8 years. For the past several years nearly all of these kids have continuous running noses, year round. Not just running, but vivid green.

    The other thing that I have noticed is that the numerous native Madrona trees in Seattle (Arbutus menziesii, called Madrone trees south of the Siskiyou Mountains, in Canada simply called Arbutus) – all of them are dying. They are losing their bark, all leaves turning brown and falling, and every one is canted over, as if they had lost most of their roots. I only started noticing this about 1 year ago. The University of Washington campus is heavily planted in old, tall Madronas, and every one is falling over, near dead. Has anyone else on the West Coast noticed this?


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    • razzz razzz

      Green snot usually means an infection starting with a sinus infection accompanied with a low grade fever. Unchecked, it can spread to the lungs where you cough up or spit up green phlegm, if mixed with blood/mucus, you will need medical attention pronto.

      Don't know about the trees but the University must have at least one department on campus than can figure it out. Give them a call.


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      • razzz razzz

        I should mention that in immediate Chernobyl fallout areas covered mostly in radiocesium(s) that trees uptaking the radioactive elements have died but not decayed because the fallout has sterilized the forest floor and killed off even fungi/molds besides bugs that normally decompose wood. Next, a fear of forest fires that would recirculate fallout back into the air to start the cycle again somewhere else.

        Dr. Helen Caldicott says governments state this will go on for 300 years but she says 600 hundred years. One of the few times 20 is used as the half life multiplier instead of the common x10 before (in this case) the cesium decay chain becomes stable.

        To cheap to meter and the gift that keeps on giving.


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        • "Stable" Cs137 means Barium 137 and that shit is WORSE than anything else combined. It will reflect sunlight making ice much harder to melt. It will stop the Yellow line, and K line light from the Sun, and cause basically all continuum spectra light to scatter away into space where it is useless for food production/sugar cycle in plants. This stuff is basically as bad or worse than Asbestos, and IMHO will cause
          Mesothelioma symptoms or cancer just as efficiently. So stable??? Only for no more radiation emissions. Barium by the tons in the air is the "smoke" mentioned in many end times stories that will blot out even the Sun eventually.

          The colors of death are bright in the sky if you know how to "see" them. You have been lied to for decades over 7th grade science they conveniently have neglected to teach anyone who does not choose it as an elective. Click my name for more info.


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    • We Not They Finally

      West Coast is also apparently heavily subjected to bombardment of UV-B radiation from the Sun — result of geoengineering which has ripped the ozone layer apart.

      UV-A is normal sunshine. UV-B is dangerous and does damage the barks of trees (as well as human skin.) With UV-C, we'll be getting into x-ray strength.

      Dane Wigington of geoengineering watch/org gives the backdrop for that. He says that UV-B is "supposed" to be just 5% total, but it's zoomed up to 60%. He says trees in northern California are faring badly — not surprised it would be up farther north too.


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    • maybesomeday

      Zurls, where I live in western Oregon near Roseburg, the madrone is a common tree. The madrone have a problem with root fungus which was worse this year, especially the younger, less established trees. They looked sick and their leaves were dying this spring. They are looking better here now.


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  • razzz razzz

    'Japan can restart two nuclear reactors'

    "Japan's nuclear watchdog has given the green light for two reactors to restart, one year after the energy-poor country shut down its last unit in the aftermath of the Fukushima crisis.

    The go-ahead from the Nuclear Regulatory Authority (NRA) comes after it issued a more than 400-page safety report, saying two reactors at the Sendai plant in southern Japan were safe to switch back on, and follows a month-long public consultation period.

    But any restart is unlikely before the year end as the operator, Kyushu Electric Power, is also required to get two more NRA approvals for other facilities at the site.

    More challenging, perhaps, is gaining the consent of communities living near the plant, who must sign off on the restarts before they can happen.

    Greenpeace Japan said the government of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe appeared to be glossing over the last year, in which Japan has survived without nuclear power, in its rush to get nuclear reactors back online.

    'The government … is ignoring the lessons of Fukushima and attempting to prevent the renewable energy revolution, trying to take the nation back to its dependence on dangerous and unreliable nuclear power,' said the organisation's Kazue Suzuki…"
    http://www.skynews.com.au/news/world/asiapacific/2014/09/10/japan-can-restart-two-nuclear-reactors.html


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  • DIRECT CHARITY WORKS

    BEWARE THE FALLOUT SNOW, COMING TO AN AMERICA NEAR YOU.

    Oh dear the devil box in devil canyon is back limping along. No wonder duct tape corporation shares went up. Oh well happy days and pink skies, candy crush and flappy birds.


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  • Wasabe PeaNut

    @ ZURLS:

    Hey, ZURLS, I live on the other side of the sound, noted that Madrona's and other broad leaf trees also dying, especially the Madrona's. They were the most immediately hard hit after the crud came ashore here 5 days later after Unit 3 blew up. My geiger counter has seen levels of 2900-3800 CPM back in mid 2012, windy days, overcast days, all came with a heavy radiological pricetag. As for the runny noses, this too is prevalent, people at work, all walking around with snot dripping out of their face all the time. Mucus production way off the charts. Anyway, leaves on trees started to come off here a month ago, and though the nominal CPM levels on my property dropped, there are hotspots, and my well water is now contaminated…meter sees the radiation in it. Down by the waterfront the CPM levels jump easily 150 or MORE CPM avg.


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  • FXofTruth

    I have many friends and relatives in California.
    They matter a great deal to me.
    While I cannot do anything to help them,
    I can place one everlasting
    effect in the
    Time that is, "The Now" and that will be the Future.

    I call upon all of the Reason and all of the Truth in all of the Universe…. to understand MY reason to ask of this, from you:

    "With all the pain I feel for the innocent and helpless heading into a Future of Sadness – Please place a CURSE of SHAME on all the Managers of TEPCO that have, with intention and deceit, ms-managed this whole Evil and Vile event. May THEY die with the knowledge branded on their soul, that THEY are the CAUSE that many millions of innocent women and children, sisters and brothers, fathers and seniors will greatly suffer and die or will be dying early because of THEIR total stupidity; total lack of morality; total lack of honor; and total lack of human compassion. The Managers of TEPCO should die fast; die painfully; and die dishonored all caused by their own hand. OH Great Power of the Universe, have NO pity on THEIR worthless souls. THEIR lack of the Human Spirit runs so deep, that a rock, a turd, a sewer of sludge…has more Humanity and Human Compassion than is, in THEM. This will, for all Eternity be THEIR Legacy…NEVER to be forgotten, NEVER to be removed and NEVER to be absolved."


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    • nedlifromvermont

      beautiful prose … but you missed something … Tepco people were just good corporate customers for the Granddaddy of Evil … General Electric Company, which was warned repeatedly that these meltdowns would occur …

      Save some contempt for the people who made this horror possible …

      Mark One BWR line was one crappy product … even its in-house managers said so … directly … to the US Congress …. who … typically … did nothing about the problem …

      Goggle 'Dale Bridenbaugh' to learn more …

      GE = Grotesqueness Elevated … and they are not alone … but will die alongside us, the innocent, while still profiteering from the Cancer Business …

      It did not have to turn out this way …

      later 'newsers!


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  • yellowrain

    Every day I look at the half of tooth that fell from my mouth in the early days of the disaster. I remember the women from japan showing how her teeth had all fallen out in a month. I always wonder what happened to her. I to have observed nature all my life as it was sometimes the only place I found peace. I see things that most others don't give the time of day to. Early on I was out in a couple washouts due to doctor appointments. I covered myself as best I could and stripped and showered when I got home. I ended up at my optometrist. I don't know what he saw when he looked into my eyes. He gave me eye drops. I used prescription drops for two months. There is permanent damage. I used store bought drops 8 times aday for the next 2 years. my tear ducts droped white balls from the corners of my eyes. This is the first year I was able to only use drops as necessary. My sinuses were also greatly affected at the same time. That shit traveled long and hard to hit me in the face. But when you get hit in the face you dont soon forget. Friends around me may not see it and the push back I get is hard. I am a prepper now my world has changed. I ask everyone to look at all the plants ,trees near your house and tell me If you don't see the most perfect round marks, speckling and killing your trees. Has anyone else had these dots of death on their vegetables? The truth is out there. It is right in front of you.


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    • jec jec

      My beautiful green leaves of a special vine I grow outside..leaves the size of small dishes..the older leaves from a month ago show those perfect round marks. Newer ones from the past two weeks look fine. I grow these vines from seeds each year, they are wonderful greens to eat..but not with the white circles…this is the third year in a row with damaged areas with white spots, have grown them for ten years or more.


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    • 4Yahshua

      9~11~5995 (out of 6000) in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!
      Last Evil Days of "Manmean". Yes, Yahshua the Messiah returns VERY SOON! HalleluYah! Hebrew: "Praise ye Yah!

      For several years I have put an extremely healthy form of flax seed oil in my eyes using an eye dropper. This is a great antioxidant for the eyes and has kept me from getting cataracts now at the age of 66.


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  • ISeePinkClouds

    Yes. I watch the clouds form over Japan, and as they cross the Northern Pacific pushed by the Jet Stream, on NASA Interactive Satellite Imagery. When rain falls from those clouds the RadMon and Netc radiation monitoring sites Geiger Counter readings clearly show large increases. For months those clouds rained repeatedly on Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, Ohio, Missouri and both South and East. I was not surprised last week when it was announced that a high level of radioactivity was found in Lake Erie. I was not surprised to hear that an unusually high number of children in the Midwest are now suffering from upper respiratory infections. Those very same areas received rain from clouds that formed over Japan.


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    • Greenthumbelina

      While I have no doubt the Fuku plume stretched across the Northern Hemisphere (Iodine in Florida, etc) I think a lot of the super high radiation in the midwest/east coast is from the local reactors. Lake Erie has been messed up for a while. What a shame, what we've done to this planet… really unbelievable!


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    All that got into the seaweed from rain in California?

    They have been going through a severe drought, haven't they?

    Good thing?

    Only the New World Order could change rain from blessing to messing…


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  • Doc Lemm

    I live in Ocean Shores, Washington, and there's nothing but low background showing up on the detector… Maybe there's time to live awhile?


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  • melting mermaid melting mermaid

    Dear enenewsers, please help me. I've decided that I want to leave the northern hemisphere. My boyfriend thinks I am batshit crazy, but I would like to fix my RV and take my oldest son on a roadtrip south. And I would like to make a movie about Fukushima, enenewsers and the fact we have to do something so crazy because of of a stupid corporation, I never even heard of before 3 11. I would like to interview as many enenewsers as I could on the way and the general public. And make a documentary. What do you say? Will you help me get my family the elf out of here? Will you let me interview you and park my RV in front of your house overnight? And mostly I'll need help with the editing. I think it could be awesome and illuminating. It's time we make a movie about enenewsers. Don't you think? A travel adventure/fukushima facts and you know how I love to go off the philosophical deep end. Nedli, wntf, clamshell, bo, sadiedog?? I know you'll be on my path. Tung Jen, I want to drive to Belize. Then?? Does that sound crazy?


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    • General User General User

      @Melt.
      Just as Dana is documenting the West Coast tidal pools, You could document parts of the interior, and the peoples. Quite a valuable endeavor.

      Driving to Belize? That could be a logistical nightmare, simply entering Mexico from the US presents car insurance problems. If memory serves Mexico and US do not recognize each others insurance…You have to buy Mexican insurance as you cross into Mexico.
      Beware, you my find ME as a STOWAWAY, hitching a ride out of here!

      I am in Eastern Ohio at Pennsylvanian and you are quite welcome to stop by here on your way to the East coast, and again on your way out. I also have friends with video editing equipment in West Virginia.


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      • melting mermaid melting mermaid

        Right, that could be part of the movie, and I think a caravan would be great. Or some of you west coasters meeting me there with your logistical nightmares. Maybe Tepco could loan us a few of their Leer Jets, that would be sweet, however unlikely. Its scary to have to drop everything and have to move somewhere you don't speak the language, to have to leave your home you love because of a corporation a half a world away is madness, its unacceptable. This entire industry is. I live in Vermont and I won't mind going out of the way for a willing participant. The trees here look so sad and that respiratory thing has pushed me a bit over the edge among other things…I would like to show the discrepancy between the general population and you guys, I mean the foxtarded abyss.


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    • Central America is not the most stable/safe part of the world. If I were contemplating something similar to you I'd head for St Helena, which is an island right out in the South Atlantic. St Helena is a British overseas territory. The population mostly comprises of the descendents of Elizabethan explorers. English is the first language, but many of them still speak what I call 'pirate talk'. The capital is called Jamestown, and it used to have just three pubs.

      St Helena doesn't have an airport. The only way to get there is by boat, either a three week voyage from Cardiff, in the UK, or a one week voyage from South Africa. I presume you have an American passport, which means the paperwork wouldn't be that difficult.

      http://sthelenatourism.com/

      And by the way, Napoleon is buried on St Helena; and no, I don't work for the St Helena tourist board.


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      • melting mermaid melting mermaid

        Looks awesome, but its really far away. Driving to Belize is like driving from Vt to Memphis and then some, which I've done a few times. I know a lot of people from South America and Mexico and they are great, great people. I really hate it when people talk bad about them especially since I read the Confessions of an Economic Hitman. Destabilizing nations for economic gain and then belittling them, its like blaming the victim and imho the eternal shame of US economic and foreign policy.


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    • We Not They Finally

      mm, all depends on your resources, though I'm sure that everyone will be wishing you good luck moving south. It's not like there is some established network — it would be great if there was, of course, but there likely isn't, so you may have to be prepared to just "go on faith." Video production takes resources too. But sometimes we have to just go where we feel led. Good luck!


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    • Greenthumbelina

      Hi Melting, Yes to all!
      What is your path? I'm on the West Coast (SF bay area).Also planning to relocate to Southern Hemisphere. I would absolutely do it, especially for your kids sake.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    WEST COAST NORTH AMERICA GOT NUKED . .

    And the radiation doesn't leave. It gets redistributed. It stays.


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  • Daisy207

    Measure the Tritium levels.


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  • We Not They Finally

    “If they were feeding on it, they definitely got dosed. We just don’t know if it was harmful. It’s probably not good for them…"

    You see? Not just an expert there — a regular genius!


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  • Nick

    Radiation permeates our biosphere.

    It is only going to get worse.

    No prepping will stave off it's onslaughts.

    I suggest you love for today, cherish the past. Forget the future we once all had.

    Besides, living now is all we have any way.

    Thanks nuclear.


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  • Nick

    By now, I have to assume that more sentient souls on the West Coast are
    realizing what has/is transpired vis a vis the awol fission piles on the East Coast of Japan.

    Your choice of organic foods comes into question. Is ANY Californian growing "real" organic food anymore. Or will the organic grower's gloss over radioactive contamination?

    This is not some mental exercise. The organic label just might be a moot and pointless one, and certainly NOT worth the extra cost.

    But,,, Nick, organic food is way better. Not with Plutonium, Cesium 137, Strontium-90, etc.

    Time for a sea change in how we go forward. We have to any way since the sea itself (the Pacific) has changed!


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  • Socrates

    80% of the bad stuff was blown out over the Pacific Ocean following 3-11. That stuff covered the entire mid-North American continent. That means yo got some on ya'. You breathed some in. You swallowed some.

    If 20% of wild boars in Bavaria, Germany are still found to be too full of Cesium-137 to be edible – from Chernobyl, and that is at some distance, where does that leave us on the West Coast?

    Unless there is precipitation, the bad stuff just circles the planet in the atmosphere. Then there is the water – borne radionuclides coming across with the currents.

    I can understand why German Greens do not want Strontium -90 in the Danube. But in America, next to bodies of water, "that is a chance worth taking," especially with a "low deductible" level of coverage under Price Anderson Act of 1957.

    That Act was passed during the height of the McCarthy era. We "needed" the Pu! The Soviets had launched Sputnik. There was a "missile gap." It was another Manhattan Project. Yet, they knew that Hitler had abandoned his program in 1943. We had 10-to-one missiles on the Soviets.

    "History may not repeat itself but is sure does rhyme," said Mark Twain.

    The above-ground testing did not stop until the French blew up the South Pacific in 1980- the same people who used the Sphinx for target practice.

    These "folks" have no sense whatsoever. No lessons learned at TMI, Chernobyl or Fukushima.


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    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

      Is there nothing we can do about Price Anderson? Who can change that? Where are all the Constitutional lawyers? Is there no police for the balance of powers? There someone policing everything else. Are all 3 branches of our government complicit in this the greatest crime against life in the history of earth? The fourth estate, huh? It boggles the mind that there are so many oblivious people in power. I hope and pray that I'm just insane. How can they still not see the risks involved? They knew, they knew, but they did it anyway and they don't seem to have any intention of stopping or making amends. They are just going to lie and cover their asses while we all mutate and die. What a bunch of cowards.


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    • PlowboyGrownUp

      "The above-ground testing did not stop until the French blew up the South Pacific in 1980- the same people who used the Sphinx for target practice."
      Apparently nothing learned between incarnations.
      (I'm not being sarcastic about the post)


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/court-says-bridgeton-landfill-class-153000183.html
    Court Says Bridgeton Landfill Class Members Can Accept Odor Settlement and Still File Radiation Lawsuits, Extends Opt-In Deadline to July 18


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  • hbjon hbjon

    There were a couple of storms in southern Ca. the other day. This moisture was part of a hurricane that dissipated off the coast of the northern Baja peninsula. It was clean.

    The new satellite image shows two storms with a lot of potential forming and may be heading to Hawaii. Just bananas.


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