Published: December 21st, 2011 at 2:05 am ET
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Erin Brockovich interview on Coast to Coast AM, Dec. 19, 2011:
I have one very, very, very close to my house here called Rocketdyne in Simi Valley California.
And they actually had a meltdown in 1958 I believe.
I am astounded at the number of young youths in their 20s coming down with rare, rare cancers.
Nuclear is an issue that’s struck a chord with a lot of people so that was chosen for the second book.
Erin Brockovich and the Risks of Nuclear ‘Hot Water’, Erin Burnett OutFront, Nov. 8, 2011:
Erin Brockovich, the environmental activist whose life was portrayed in a film starring Julia Roberts, says families across the country are at risk from nuclear power plants–a subject she’s written about in a new “fact-based” novel, Hot Water. Brockovich says a study of the teeth of infants living near nuclear plants raises disturbing questions about the risks of contamination–and clusters of cancer–in communities from the West Coast to the Deep South.
“I deal with the Rocket Dyne situation in Simi Valley California where there was actually a meltdown and people dont know that but we’re trying to address these massive amounts of cancer in and around the area.” -Erin Brokovich
More on the Simi Valley meltdown:
Published: December 21st, 2011 at 2:05 am ET
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Great videos. Really shows how long this problem has been going on. I recently watched, “The China Syndrome”, and it is amazing how they portray the nuclear accident default defense program. Same tactics for over half a century. Brokovich proves that justice is possible.
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I wonder how much cancer was about before nuclear!
We really have pissed in our pool this time!
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If we can gather enogh data on you question and spread it, people may start to think!
The comparison with Encient Egypt is already done:
Finding only one case of the disease in the investigation of hundreds of Egyptian mummies, with few references to cancer in literary evidence, proves that cancer was extremely rare in antiquity. The disease rate has risen massively since the Industrial Revolution, in particular childhood cancer – proving that the rise is not simply due to people living longer.
Professor Rosalie David, at the Faculty of Life Sciences, said: “In industrialised societies, cancer is second only to cardiovascular disease as a cause of death. But in ancient times, it was extremely rare. There is nothing in the natural environment that can cause cancer. So it has to be a man-made disease, down to pollution and changes to our diet and lifestyle.”
http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=6243
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Pure water, I agree with your general theme, but I urge us all not to overstate our case – it’s too easy for the other side to spot flaws and expoit them to discredit our underlying position.
For example: “Finding only one case of the disease in the investigation of hundreds of Egyptian mummies, with few references to cancer in literary evidence, proves…” is not correct. It proves nothing. It does strongly suggest (your conclusion) but it does not prove it.
The basic principle here is that absence of evidence is not equivalent to evidence of absence. It is possible (even if unlikely) that the next batch of mummies uncovered would show evidence of cancer. One could even explain such a phenomenon if discovered with concepts such as “the ancient Egyptians entombed the cancer victims separately so as to appease the god Fubar”.
Anyway, the bottom line is that not finding something does not prove that it doesn’t exist.
On another front, “There is nothing in the natural environment that can cause cancer” is false. See Wikipedia for instance: “There are many natural carcinogens. Aflatoxin B1, which is produced by the fungus Aspergillus flavus growing on stored grains, nuts and peanut butter, is an example of a potent, naturally-occurring microbial carcinogen.”
I make these comments only to suggest a more vigorous methodology. Like you, I’m pretty sure that the contemporary cancer surge is man-made. I’m not sure which man-made phenomena have actually caused which cancers, but I am certain of one component in the soup, namely man-made radionuclides.
Let’s start by shutting down nuke power and nuke weaponry. The costs are not worth the gains.
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I understand and agree with your objections, but we need every bit of information on this topic. Radiation is the most powerful carcinogen according to the top experts, but to stop nuclear palnts, without strong public resistance is an illusion. Resistance can start when people see the problem.
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Wasn’t mummification a privilege of the wealthy and ruling classes? If so, the possible evidence of cancer in the rest of the population would be missed. Their bodies might have been buried or disposed of by other means (although not cremation). If mummified, the preservation of the body might not have been performed to the same high degree of skill a ruler might have enjoyed.
http://connections.smsd.org/csi/burial%20customs.htm
“The more money you had the better burial you got.”
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“pissed in the pool”….
We took a giant SHIT in the pool!
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If only it were just a couple of Snicker bars.
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boobies
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“Castration might bring us better politicians”
Just a thought! lol
http://www.notechmagazine.com/2011/12/castration-could-bring-us-better-politicians.html
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Apparently the person who wrote it is unaware of the abuses of eunuchs in China and the Middle East.
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The name Rocket Dyne sounds like something that belongs in a Mad Max movie.
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Buick in the late forties equipped cars with Dynaflow, a transmission that was loud and inefficient which made the car get 10 miles to the gallon. In 1959, Buick had the aerodynamic Delta Fin. The fin made parking difficult and blocked the driver’s line of vision. Rocketdyne was a Rocket engine design and production company headquartered in Canoga Park, California.
Nuclear power is another idea from the fifties that has a foundation built on spin doctors formally called advertising executives. It only works for the people making money on it.
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Ah Rocketdyne – mighty engines roaring and the dream of conquering Space!
A different era for sure.
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I had a feeling the well known Erin Brockovich was taking on the nuke industry.
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Too bad Coast to Coast is usually a punch line. I hope she is successful in bring attention to this terrible AVOIDABLE tragedy.
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She actually does a pretty good job.
See it err hear it, here
http://www.youtube.com/user/damjerminator#p/u/3/4KgrNAvsT1o
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GO ERIN!! TERRIBLE NEWS BUT SO GLAD SHE’S SPEAKING OUT!!
Did you guys see this? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/22/world/asia/hong-kong-culls-chickens-after-bird-flu-is-found.html?_r=1
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http://www.brockovich.com/index.html
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http://newmoderate.com/2011/03/18/mount-fuji-in-red-notes-on-japans-triple-nightmare/
mice post about kurosawa mont fuji in red but the comments is full of nuclear shills, whoever wants to register and flame them please do.
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Read this concerning numbers dismissed by SA concerning radiation mortality 14 weeks prior and after March 11th.”U.S. health officials report weekly deaths by age in 122 cities, about 25 to 35 percent of the national total. Deaths rose 4.46 percent from 2010 to 2011 in the 14 weeks after the arrival of Japanese fallout, compared with a 2.34 percent increase in the prior 14 weeks. The number of infant deaths after Fukushima rose 1.80 percent, compared with a previous 8.37 percent decrease. Projecting these figures for the entire United States yields 13,983 total deaths and 822 infant deaths in excess of the expected.” And thus I disagree totally with the article in SA stating that the numbers in the study are flawed.
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Coverups of radiation events might explain why the “silence” on Fukushima by the world governments. Blackmail by Japanese Government-you keep quiet and we will keep quiet on YOUR RADIATION. It also might explain the missing RadNet data for cities when radiation rises beyond a certain target. Just like the TEPCO webcams, when one discovers a “coverup” it means something is going on. Personal badge dosimeters are cheap and work, either in Japan or HERE. Just a personal belief, no facts–but an observation.
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Observations taken from a larger worldview, common sense, common human decency, compassion and plain old sanity all indicate what’s wrong with this picture.
“They” may leave no factual trail, “their” words may all be lies but their accumulated actions tell us much that we need to know.
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Well I just wrote Greg Palast. Wish you guys would too.
contact@gregpalast.com Can you imagine Palast/Brockovich joining forces together?!? Explosive!!
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You and I know, the only way to expose this damn Industry is with BIG NAMES. You fill up Greg’s box with alerts about Erin, he just might contact her. EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED! BIG TIME NAMES COMING OUT AGAINST IT!! Let’s see…who else ummm?
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HERE’S WHAT I SENT – SHORT AND TO THE POINT:
Heads Up!
“TAKING ON THE NUKE INDUSTRY”
Erin Brockovich
DEC 21 Erin Brockovich taking on nuke industry
http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/07/erin-brockovich-and-the-risks-of-nuclear-hot-water/
Enenews has all the other videos:
http://enenews.com/erin-brockovich-nuke-industry-massive-amounts-cancer-hometown-la-after-reactor-meltdown-videos/
Erins Website
http://www.brockovich.com/index.html
Can you imagine Palast/Brockovich joining forces together?!? Explosive!!
Thank you.
“Japan HP Irregulars” (following crisis since 3/11)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/16/japan-nuclear-crisis-cold-shutdown_n_1152889.html?show_comment_id=124315512#comment_124315512
Enenews Members
http://enenews.com/
Paul Langley’s Nuclear History Blog
http://nuclearhistory.wordpress.com/
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Any Western “celebrities” speaking out on Fukushima ?
I’m out of that loop so pardon my ignorance.
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IN A WORD: NO
The last celeb was Alex Baldwin. We could write him and tell him too about Erin. BUT I just googled him and came up EMPTY.
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He took down his Twitter page after the airplane incident.
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Roseanne Barr
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His brother STEPHEN is asking Alex “when you coming back to twitter” http://mashable.com/2011/12/20/stephen-baldwin-to-brother-alec-when-are-you-coming-back-to-twitter-video/ But we all know Stephen is radical Right winger. It’d do no good to contact him.
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The health and safety of the world is not a right vs. left thing. Making it political is how the liars convince half the people without any work.
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Outnow posted 2 good ones overnight:
John Gofman’s Nuclear Courage
by Joseph J. Mangano, M.D.
http://www.thenation.com/article/john-gofmans-nuclear-courage
There would be a much higher cancer rate if this single person had allowed the pro-nukers to expose us all.
The article contains much information. A true American hero!
Sternglass – The Minds of Children (or why Johnny can’t read) (Fallout is the reason!!!)
http://www.ratical.org/radiation/SecretFallout/SFchp16.html
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Whoopie I just want to thank you for all your hard work. Kudos, I wish I had an ounce of your ambition and energy. Okay, now I’m gonna be redundant Thank you , Thank you……….
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ALL OF US TOGETHER MAKE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH!!
WE SHANT STOP as I always say at hp. Wanna join us?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/16/japan-nuclear-crisis-cold-shutdown_n_1152889.html?show_comment_id=124315512#comment_124315512
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I was fortunate to have heard Dr, Gofman , Dr. Sternglass and Dr, Caldicott speaking in S.F. back in the day. I am forever convinced of the horrors of the nuclear industry.
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“US asks scientific journals to censor bird flu studies”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/21/bird-flu-science-journals-us-censor
I wonder if understanding more about the bird flu means that we won’t confuse radiation sickness for it?
Scary times people!!
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I skimmed the article. It says they think it could be used as a weapon, so they’ve asked the scientific journals to not publish about it.
This could be a legitimate reason to not publish – for years nobody published how to build an atomic bomb, but it was pretty common knowledge.
I think it is incumbent on the editor of the scientific journal to understand whether the concerns are legitimate or not, and then make a decision. That’s what the job of editing is all about and they do it every day.
What I think they should not do is take the word of the US government without any fact checking.
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Then they wont have an excuse for all these deaths!
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From the last video above:
“a breeder reactor, the most dangerous kind of all …”
Yet this is the kind that the industry is now touting as so much better and safer.
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How many of the people showed in those clips died of cancer and what kinds ???
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I hope she financially eviscerates the responsible corporations.
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Goathead asked an interesting question at the top of this thread.
Years ago I read that cancer rates in the 1950s were as follows: one in nine women would get cancer in their lifetime; one in eight men would experience the BIG C.
Haven’t run across anything that discussed pre-nuke testing, but it had to be even better.
Obviously there are other factors — environmental and processed food to name but two, but it sure seems like the deck is stacked against us, and getting worse all the time.
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