Expert: Disease outbreak on US West Coast is largest ever seen in any population of animals — Tens of millions dead — Official: Gov’t needs to declare emergency before extinction occurs — Many scientists believed radiation from Fukushima to blame (VIDEO)

Published: March 14th, 2015 at 6:58 am ET


McClatchy, Mar 13, 2015 (emphasis added): With millions of starfish dying all along the West Coast [and] disintegrating into mush [Congressman Denny Heck wants NOAA] to declare “sea star wasting syndrome” an emergency before the starfish becomes extinct.

National Geographic, Jan 23, 2015: [It’s killed] tens of millions of sea stars.

Cornell Prof. Drew Harvell, sea star researcher, Mar 13, 2015: “There has never been an outbreak of disease in natural populations of animals that I know that’s been this large.”

Newport Beach official Michelle Clemente: “All of our area’s sea stars have disintegrated

Russian gov’t news service (Sputnik), Mar 12, 2015: Many researchers initially believed radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster could be at the heart of the disease… Dr. Peter Raimondi of the University of California at Santa Cruz [believed] the power plant contaminated the water, propagating the disease which the simple immune system of the starfish would not be able to fight off… “One of the byproducts is obviously nuclear radiation discharge…” he added. Today, scientists are less convinced that Fukushima is to blame, citing the fact that [1] awareness of the disease predates the disaster, [2] the die-offs are observable on both US coasts, and [3] other marine life doesn’t appear to be affected.

[1] Is it a fact this disease predates the 2011 arrival of the Fukushima plume on the West Coast?

  • Melissa Miner, researcher who works for Dr. Raimondi (at 18:30): “The Olympic coast was the first place, in June 2013, where we saw the disease.”
  • Miner (at 4:45): “This is very different from prior events…It’s not associated w/ warm water … Populations really [got] hit hard over the winter, this has never happened… The other big difference… is the geographic extent is much, much larger than we’ve ever seen.”

[2] Is it a fact the die-offs are observable on both US coasts?

  • Miner (50:45 in): “I think it was just a few-month epidemic on the East Coast of the US… My feeling, because we have not heard a lot about it, is that it sort of disappeared. It just lasted a few months and then was gone.”

[3] Is it a fact other marine life doesn’t appear to be affected?

  • “Researchers are now keeping an eye on other echinoderms, such as sea urchins and sea cucumbers. Wasting has been observed in those animals… ‘We’re seeing urchins in southern California with lesions in areas where stars were dying’ [said Miner].” –Source
  • Miner (43:15 in): “People are really watching closely [if] it will spread… We’ve had isolated observations of sick urchins and sea cucumbers w/ lesions and other odd looking things.”

What about the reported surge in baby sea stars? “‘It’s not a coast-wide phenomenon at all,’ said Miner… as few as four of 70 long-term sites [have] greater than normal numbers… ‘I was trying really hard to find juveniles and I couldn’t find any,’ said [Chrissy McLean].” –Source

What about reports that wasting mystery is solved?No one knows what might have triggered such widespread wasting, although scientists [published a paper identifying] densovirus rather than environmental pollutants, such as the oft-suggested [Fukushima] radiation… They found the virus in a Connecticut aquarium where mass die-offs had not been observed, as well as in preserved sea stars from 1942… Miner, who is one of the paper’s authors [said] “It’s likely that other environmental factors have pushed stars to the limit” –Source

View Miner’s presentation here

Published: March 14th, 2015 at 6:58 am ET


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203 comments to Expert: Disease outbreak on US West Coast is largest ever seen in any population of animals — Tens of millions dead — Official: Gov’t needs to declare emergency before extinction occurs — Many scientists believed radiation from Fukushima to blame (VIDEO)

  • Cisco Cisco


    • hbjon hbjon

      At least someone is methodically researching the star fish ELE. As children, we would go on field trips to the tide pools by San Clemente and climb around the rocks where sea life was flourishing. But this was back in 1975.

      • hbjon hbjon

        For unknown reasons, their food supply is gone. For unknown reasons the sea lions lack the energy to locate and catch enough food to survive. Let's see, in humans they're always quick to point out inferior genetic makeup allowing them to succumb to disease and death, paying scant attention to the environment or nutritional deficiencies. I say, "lucky for us we can go to the store and chase down a rotisserie chicken from the deli". But, now financial considerations come into play and the need to chase down 10 dollars to pay the one who chased down and cooked the chicken for us 🙁

        • stinkyperfume stinkyperfume

          They won't stop the money system greed issues on earth and pay people to clean pollution. I think the money printers could just print this money and create trillions of organic jobs if they wanted to. The people that put souls into bodies must know this, and maybe they are just leaving this place, I heard they were using Cern to do it. It is said that the earth has gone into nuclear extinction 4 times already and this is the 5th time. Everytime they do it, the same thing happens where the elite make habitable spaceships. There is a story that the last time they did this some elite scientists escaped into space as usual and were up there 60 years and ran out of supplies, so they landed back on earth and went walking. They encountered people living in caves who were survivors and they put the pictures on cave walls of what they now call ancient aliens, visiting us humans, were really only those one's that protected themselves, escaping into space. The earth never had "cave people" as evolving species. I believe it's all genetic engineering, done underground and mostly what we see today as humans was there before. I'm sure they mixed up some species at times that didn't survive too long of a life so we see "neanderthal looking man" in the bone digs, etc. Just by looking, one cannot tell a smart man from a genius regardless of body looks. The whole game seems to be insiders and outsiders, and evolves into surface people and secret people mostly living…

  • Another scientist saying it's a mystery is cause for investigation into gov failure to protect the public. EPA, USDA, NOAA, NASA and even the CTBTO may be liable for not implementing early warning systems and for not designing smart, logical, theoretically valid testing of critters, plants, soil, rivers, food… air.. rain…

    • hbjon hbjon

      Right. Brings back painful memories of the suppressing NAZI regime. In Germany, the genius's were replaced by NAZI's in positions that were responsible for doing any deep thinking.

      • At least in Communist China, they put their BRIGHTEST people and experts in their field in positions of power. They are winning the battles where it counts, and the US can't even see it coming, much less respond.

        Here, not so much is going on.. lawyers and extremists rule.

        Sending letters to foreign leaders, to warn them about talking with the President of the USA is about the best they can do.


    • my guess is that it will continue to be supressed AT LEAST until APRIL 15th, then i think that we will be getting more drips of info… remember how they kept saying it would "get here" or "peak" in 2015. so, again my assumption, is they probably have pretty good computer programs that when they enter the information, it lets them know how it will all play out…socially, economically, etc, hence the "2015", they probably knew amongst themselves that the latest they could keep this quiet because that is how long it would take till the large animals and sealife to start dropping at noticeable rates, so they rushed to sell off all west coast properties and business interests by then. (raytheon now leaving san diego) from what i understand some of these computer models have pretty good accuracy, like 95+%. and i don't remember the exact dates, but does anyone else remember a few years back when alot of government higherups kept resigning their positions to "spend more time with their families"? this is all just my "gut" feelings. all they have done and will do is to serve their own best interests, the rest of us don't even come into the equation.
      sorry if that is too doom and gloom, but i think it is really important for us to come together and really fight back whilst we are still well enough to, to do whatever we can to take some of the burden off future generations.

      • 4Yahshua

        3~14~5997 (out of 6000)Sabbath in this "Doomsday Apocalypse"!
        Last Evil Days of "Manmean"! Yahshua Son of Yahweh Returns
        VERY SOON! Pray NOW to be SAVED and SEALED! Revelation 14:1
        HalleluYah! Hebrew: "Praise ye Yah!"

        Kitty, I wholeheartedly agree with you! This is why I now head my posts with an "alter call". For all of my 67 years I can remember wanting to know the TRUTH about everything. In my opinion, eschatological speaking, we ALL have very little time left in this final age of man. Therefor,our homes must become "our arks" whether we live 6 miles from the beach in Orange County, Southern CA like me, or somewhere else considered more safe like South America. Ingest the GOOD to fight the BAD (radiation and cancer)!

        There is going to be a total solar eclipse on Sabbath 3~21, Abib 1, the beginning of the Biblical year. Fourteen days later on Sabbath 4~4, Passover, will happen the 3rd Blood Moon (Full Moon) in a series.
        Very possibly, these events in the heavens may be a fulfillment of the Old Testament prophet Joel's words

        "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of Yahweh come.
        And it shall come to pass, that whosoever, shall call on the Name of Yahweh shall be delivered: for in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as Yahweh has said, and in the remnant Yahweh shall call."

        Joel 2:31-32 Holy Name Bible and other Restored Name Versions


      • stinkyperfume stinkyperfume

        I remember having massive issues with police in 2010 when I first became homeless on the California coastline. I was sleeping outside in the car. The streets were nearly empty for hundreds of miles, the police were after anything out at night and jumping on them and intimidating them and they towed away thousands of hippie vehicles. Two days before 3/11/2011, I was sleeping on a friends sofa and went out to my car and there was a ticket on it, all muddy. I read the ticket. written time was 3:11 am. The ticket went to someone else's car, wasn't even mine. Suddenly Fukushima blew and it was as if I had been warned in a weird obscure way. I moved to another state…they had radiation real bad also so I came back to California and forgot about it for a year, then went and looked up the land records and property sales and found block after block had changed hands, in 2009, 2010 when they hired secret special aggressive police task force to clear the coastlines so the super rich could sell to the stupid greedy about the up and coming, new and happening places on the California coastlines, that weren't insiders to the information, same as 9/11/2001, insiders got out ahead of time. San Pedro, Los Angeles Fish Market has a few closed buisness and issues for over a year now. Fisherboat toilets shut down "for maintenance", yeah right, just another lie. They are lying all over the place, it's the nature of the insiders, protect themselves using money, stories, even elite…

        • Bungalow Phil Bungalow Phil

          When they ask you where you live just tell them Earth. In reality nobody can be referred to as homeless. Domestically challenged is a more suitable term. Domestication is the reality, as in animals. Serfdom and feudalism never went away. The police desire to enforce laws and so if the legislature puts a law on the books to criminalize people for either choices they make or circumstances they are in that resolves into a domestic challenge the ones making the laws are to be blamed. They all assume that you are either a victim or a recalcitrant. Either scenario is intolerable to them. As victims are considered weak and the other are considered dangerous. The ones that enforce laws are so very much the lower echelon of the establishment and are chosen usually for their ability to absorb the training and ability to carry out the desire and will of the established order. It is all so distorted and as always I defend the ideology of anarchy to establish a human based system of law and order. The end result being living life freely with no elitist system to burden and crush the human spirit.

  • bluetick

    do you think the muslim in the white house cares about america and the dieing animals…NO! dont expect anything more than full extinction…We are 100% powerless. we have a or should i say many cowards in washington and they are worried about a email server right now…

    no one cares but this little group here!!!this next generations will pay dearly though for the lack of attention!!

    Whats sad is the animals will take the first fall!

    we focus on radiation in the ocean but the oceans are full of trash and plastics that are equivalent to the damage of the radiation…

    We are beyond repair there is NO fix, we are a voiceless!


    • hbjon hbjon


      We elect our representatives in Congress and need to accept responsibility for voting them in office. Don't like them? Vote them out.

      • Sol Man

        Voting machine software keeps voting them in.

        • Sol Man; that's exactly how it goes. And Americans keep returning to the polls, and keep participating in that sham, unwittingly.
          I worked as an (s)election-judge in 2012. What I saw (votes gone missing, being flipped, etc..) blew my mind! Since then, I've been on a one-woman campaign to get people to stop participating. But, it is difficult.
          I need to really get in gear on this, before the next big scam happens. We need to educate the people and convince them to stop working for the liars. If enough polling places have no workers, they cannot even hold (s)elections, and this is my personal (and public) goal.

      • SadieDog

        The U.S. isn't the heart of the world, it just has the best advertising. 😉

      • 4Yahshua

        3~14~5997 (out of 6000) Sabbath in this "Doomsday Apocalypse"!

        You really SHOULD become informed. Sadly, we DON'T vote anyone in.
        In my opinion, we now live in the WORST government that ever was because it has lasted SO LONG. (33 years) Hint: It's called
        "The New World Order" Under The Vatican's Christian CROSS, Revelation 13:18 (Greek Diaglott, Free on The Web)

        Web Search: "Bush Nazi Family Connections".

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Sadly the government can not protect us from ourselves and our combined behaviors..these are taught by many others promoted behaviors. All of it drenched in the pursuit of more money.. 🙁

    • The government is the people. There is no us versus them evil government folks. Religions are definitely not the primary problem.

      Follow the money.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Dr, G, if the government IS the people, why dont they work for the public's interest? They are a creepy corrupt group that work for the corporate banking elite. No doubt in my mind 90% are not fit for their position and should be sentenced to community service, if not prison [except that prisons are also a corrupt business.]

        Religion is a manifestation of the limits of human psychology…the masses give themselves over to a cult like following without rational thought. Yes, there have been religious wars and suppression throughout history…it has been a huge problem. There is a reason for division of church and state but this does not really exist. Nothing wrong with spiritual searching of course, a completely different thing

        • Money is at the root of the problem.

          Iceland Bailed Out People Instead Of Banksters; Is Now Doing Much Better Than EU, or US; via @AGreenRoad

          Take the money out of the elections, mass media and government, and 99% of the problems disappear.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            rather your other post on psychopathy is the root of the problem, money being the exchange medium. Complex sociological, genetic and environmental processes are at the root of psychopathology, but in short our species has a mental illness, with psychopaths concentrating in positions of power. The public gives themselves over to this power, perhaps conditioned by untold centuries of suppression and torture under the rule of the elite.

            • Yes, there is a lot of that going on in many areas of the world, and historically it has been the rule.

              If you did not agree with the king, despot, ruler or church leader you were often beheaded, tortured, jailed or sent packing into the wolf infested woods.

          • 4Yahshua

            Really, the Bible says the LOVE of money is the root of all evil not money! And, yes, when you talk about The Vatican, religion IS the problem!

            The BIBLE = Best Instructions Before Leaving Earth!

            IT REALLY IS!

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Actually, 4Yashua, it says the love of money is the root of ALL KINDS OF EVIL. Not "the root of evil." Please do go back and read that again.

              You deleted a crucial word there in your thinking. Not a put down; it's a common mistake.

              The "kinds" part makes a lot of difference, non?

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              4Yah…think of how the dominant males in other species fight, dont care about female equality, hoard the catch…dominate the pecking order. notice too, how similar man is to his kindred animals…of course apes but even bats and rats. Nearly identical.

              well, that should get you thinking….or not. But for a definitive answer to the question one must define the terms of the question, like evil, and Im afraid 99.9% wont put their mind to the task…

              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                Man-Made Designer GMO babies will surely solve the world's current problems..

                Hitler would have been proud of such achievements..

                • Time Is Short Time Is Short

                  It didn't start with Hitler, and it didn't end with him, either:

                  'War Against The Weak', by Edwin Black (10x Pulitzer Nominee)

                  "The victims of eugenics were poor urban dwellers and rural “white trash” from New England to California, immigrants from across Europe, Blacks, Jews, Mexicans, Native Americans, epileptics, alcoholics, petty criminals, the mentally ill and anyone else who did not resemble the blond and blue-eyed Nordic ideal the eugenics movement glorified. Eugenics contaminated many otherwise worthy social, medical and educational causes from the birth control movement to the development of psychology to urban sanitation. Psychologists persecuted their patients. Teachers stigmatized their students. Charitable associations clamored to send those in need of help to lethal chambers they hoped would be constructed. Immigration assistance bureaus connived to send the most needy to sterilization mills. Leaders of the ophthalmology profession conducted a long and chilling political campaign to round up and coercively sterilize every relative of every American with a vision problem. All of this churned throughout America years before the Third Reich rose in Germany."


          • stinkyperfume stinkyperfume

            I heard money could never work. If I could try it, I would put limits on money and property any man can accrue and nothing stupid like millionaires and people living on the edge with no savings, nothing close to that. The rich and the poor divide grew and grew, but the poor never were bothered until they either took away their land or came up on it and burned it and killed everybody who didn't join their system and pay taxes, etc. I am still researching how the poor got such a bad rap, killer deal with pagan lies in the history books about them being horrible, and how come they had land loss karma. I was tricked into money and city living, mostly because we all feel a need at 18 to get away from parents who can hardly wait to stop paying for us and they bought into the system, hook, line and sinker…some serious land loving country people, eventually grew gmo food, they are all the land hogs gone corrupt….once again, money corrupts and ruins everything, I suppose it can never work and even a credit system will never stop the liars but living in the moment is impossible if the money system is in place. To live in the moment all the time I think requires natural living for all.

    • hbjon hbjon

      Spot on Obewan. The contagion of aberration is a strong force among the sheeple.

  • bluetick

    do you think the muslim in the white house cares about america and the dieing animals…NO! dont expect anything more than full extinction…We are 100% powerless. we have a or should i say many cowards in washington and they are worried about a email server right now…put the seahagg in jail and be done with it,,

    no one cares but this little group here!!!the next generations will pay dearly though for the lack of attention!!

    Whats sad is the animals will take the first fall!

    we focus on radiation in the ocean but the oceans are full of trash and plastics that are equivalent to the damage of the radiation…

    We are beyond repair there is NO fix, we are a voiceless!

    the world is looking to Putin to help us this is crazyyyyyyy

    We have become the helpless baby sea lion we all see rolling up on shore dead!

    you tell me what scientist can remove this radiation that will be hot for thousands of years for the vast oceans. it is impossible without some alien technology if there is such a thing. it might even be beyond alien intervention now…

    what we see is only a tiny tiny tiny window into reality,,hawii is reporting massssssiiiiiivvve bleaching if the coral…we are seeing the end of the food chain (seals, starfish whales) not the beginning…

    • stinkyperfume stinkyperfume

      As far as I can tell, the survivors will be some that find land and begin to grow back the garden of eden all over earth…or they find themselves unwelcome here….I heard trillions of souls are coming to do the job and it's possibly not a 7 day thing that God does, that story is likely not to be the truth as shown a little on the movie Avatar…and many other places, man is meant to interact with and learn about the nature, and spirit physical matters meant to be existing all day long with galactic connection interactions and dreams meant to become synchronistic and real this way. So, yeah, Putin may not be helping as much as he is being popular though.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Now! Now!

    6 years does not make a nation or even remotely affects the results that same nation is responsible for creating/achieving over/during the past 200 years.

    The entire premise of the original ancient design was broken from the beginning of it's application thousands of years ago.

    • hbjon hbjon

      We're not alone in our fanatical appreciation of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights. They/it is a living document like the Bible.

      Bucky balls are another subject. Pure carbon under extreme heat can achieve a spherical chemical configuration that allows it to encase another atom within the sphere. Very interesting subject to ponder.

      • hbjon hbjon

        You may wonder how a bucky ball of carbon may form without any graphite or carbon based substances present, and I verily verily say unto thee that a hot atom of Pu or U will dislodge the oxygen from an ordinary CO2 molecule and cause the carbon to "chain" around it.

  • VyseLegendaire VyseLegendaire

    I heard the sulfur-encased bucky balls of deadly weaponized isotopes inundating the Pacific being created at extreme temperatures at the places of nuclear fission in the coriums all day and every day does wonders for the sea stars* immune system!

    • SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, quiet. This fearmongering and talking about the R word is NOT ALLOWED.

      PM Abe and President Obama say so. All of the mass media says so. All of the nuclear regulators and pro nuclear industry folks says so. All of the academics says so.

      Listen and obey the leaders.

      Be QUIET and SIT DOWN.


      How To Spot A Sociopath Or Psychopath – 10 red flags that could save you from being swept under the influence of a charismatic nut job; via A Green Road

    • Vyse; it sounds like you see (in your head) what I see (in my head) when thinking about what buckyballs do. Whenever I think about Fukushima and what it actually does, in the ocean, I see, in my mind's eye, buckyballs.., bouncing off of atoms & each other.
      I still think Tritium is the worst part of this, as far as water is concerned… For Tritium replicates and replaces hydrogen, in water, essentially becoming (mutated) water. I also, "see", buckyballs being thrown up in ocean spray, all along the beaches (tidal pools) and this is why Dana is noting so many species are simply missing (gone, presumed dead.) That's really freaky-scary, in my opinion! I mean, there is no restraining the oceans and this means there is no controlling Tritium.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Those people 70 years ago should have realized that once they let this Manmade Nuclear Mutagenic Nuclear Genie out of the bottle that we all here/present were going to be in very serious trouble in the future!

    The Future is happening right now~today! 🙁

    Best to outlaw/ban this Nuclear Technology worldwide while we still can.. 🙂

    • The nuclear monster is dying, but it does not realize it is dead yet. The monster is still falling and has not hit the ground yet. A few neurons are still firing.

      The Nuclear “Renaissance” Is Dead; Zero Carbon, Zero Nuclear Renaissance Birthed And Growing Fast

      • Sickputer

        Even though Peter Bradford said the rebirth movement of nuclear power plants is dead there is still a growth side industry.

        Doc writes: "Who in their right mind would invest in something that is twice as expensive, much more risky, and has no solution for the radioactive garbage that comes out and needs to be guarded for billions of years? "

        SP answers: The military. And they aren't in what I consider a right mind, but they are rarely questioned on their sanity (or lack of).

        War preparation trumps public safety issues. Nuclear nations are frequently at war with either home rebels or foreign skirmishes. At home they remain officially or unofficially in a state of martial law.

        The Nine (at one time 10) nucleoape military industrial complexes in the world is like the ancient Roman Empire on steroids. Never willing to give up an empire making (or in Israel's case protecting) war weapon. South Africa is the only one that dropped out and dismantled their nuclear arsenal. It's a shame they are considering nuclear power plants.

        If those top nations can't agree on global strategy (and they don't) then we are headed helter skelter down a road to nuclear anarchy. And somebody will once again use a nuclear weapon. What are the odds on a country being leveled by a nuclear attack in this century? Astronomical.

      • The nuke-monster may be dying, but it is taking a lot of us with it.
        Between India accepting Obama's ideas on not accepting potential (financial) blame, in order to build more reactors, and Georgia (USA) going forward with two -TWO- new nuke-plants, I don't know how dead it is.
        But, I know people are dying, and so are animals and fish and birds.., and I know that monster's role in it.

    • Obewan: "Manmade Nuclear Mutagenic Nuclear Genie"

      That is the ultimate/perfect descriptive term for what this is! I wholeheartedly concur.

    • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

      Yes Obewan,
      Collectively we must Ban Reactors Forever. Nuclear energy is creating mountains of radioactive waste that we have NO IDEA HOW TO SAFELY ISOLATE FROM THE ENVIRONMENT AND OUR BODIES.
      Nuclear reactors are literally giant cancer factories. Nuclear is the biggest crime against humanity ever executed. Nuclear proponents are criminals who knowingly spread cancer and genetic mutations so they can make money. Nuclear energy is pure evil and must be ended.

  • rogerthat

    rather than admit radiation is to blame, they are going to let the ocean die. that seems a little short-sighted.

  • or-well

    No new bureaucracy needed. Funnel funds through the National Science Foundation network to researchers in the coastal States.
    Maybe some of that military or nuke-subsidy $.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "declare “sea star wasting syndrome” an emergency before the starfish becomes extinct."

    And what exactly is a declaration of emergency going to do?

    • jec jec

      Right on Heart, when there was an opportunity to make a difference in the radiation, in 2011, it was ignored. Now the governments are afraid to tell the truth…and the media plays right along with them. To panic..might hurt the economy and impact the people who REALLY work and put money into the money markets. As long as money comes in…rocking the boat with reality is considered bad by the powers that be.

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      What good is it going to do?
      Tip the hat ..toward the 'renewable' of nuclear? ..the starfish ..ETC. ..just don't seem to be that renewable.
      So ..ya.. let them declare it and emergency..
      May they go to the beach ..fall on their knees..weep bitter tears ..into the soft and yielding sands.
      Cry into the ocean spray .."This is an emergency!".
      Then what? ..pull out their hair the star fish pull off their limbs?
      It's a start.

    • Yes. Declaring an emergency won't do a THING. First of all, the radiation is not going to stop doing whatever it is doing with the sea. Secondly, these sciencey-derps cannot even go there (that Fukushima has played and will play a HUGE role, for eternity.)
      So they can cry out all they want, as they're not getting to the heart of the matter.
      For whatever reason (probably financial backers), they won't go there; won't be honest.

  • The Real Jaws – 4 Years of Fukushima

    "During the horrid years of Atmospheric Testing, when the US and other world governments nuked soldiers, sea life, and downwind communities with reckless abandon, Dr Ernest Sternglass took an honest approach to determine the fallout effect that nuclear bombs had on all living things – everything from unborn babies to ocean fish. Basically every living thing that contains dividing cells was affected – and that is still, and always will be, the reality of having man-made radiation on-the-loose in our environment.

    Attached is a never-before published paper from Dr Ernest Sternglass titled "“Fallout and Reproduction of Ocean Fish Populations” – he had calculated that a 1% reduction in ocean fish population was caused by fission product releases per 2.5 kt yield from nuclear weapons. In comparison, the Hiroshima bomb was 15 kilotons. Fukushima has released, by at least one estimation, 400-500 x the Hiroshima bomb into the atmosphere, and another 400-500 x in the Pacific Ocean (by the 2nd anniversary), according to Hiroaki Koide, Master of Science in Nuclear Engineering, Assistant Professor at the Kyoto University Research Institute, and a Nuclear Waste Management & Safety Expert."

    I have personally been told the number is much, much higher. Link to article/paper on Scribd:

    • That is an excellent read, eyechix. Thanks for the link.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Fukushima released something like 10,000 Hiroshima bombs. See Dr Goodhearts webpage on estimates. Is that enough to kill an entire ocean? Something like 60,000 times more than the 2.5 kt quantity that would kill 1%

    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

      Someone should photoshop nuclear maffiosi abe's head on that shark..

    • Sickputer

      Thanks eyechix. +311

      Pertinent parts of Sternglass paper:

      "Early studies by German investigators (2 ) have shown that the rare-earth elements, one of which (Yttrium-90) is the daughter product of Strontium-90, tend to concentrate in the critical, growth controlling glandular organs such as the pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands rather than in the bone.

      As a result, the many short-lived rare-earth elements dominating tropospheric debris from small kiloton weapons such as cerium, lanthanum and yttrium are probably far more serious for the developing embryo of all species than Strontium-90 by itself. In fact, it is only as a result of such unanticipatedly efficient indirect affects on growth and resistance to disease that the very small amounts of radio-isotopes from fission releases could conceivably have such severe effects on infant mortality as have been observed for instance near the Dresden Nuclear Reactor and other nuclear facilities emitting activities well below those permitted by present AEC regulations. (14)

      SP: yes, the lowering of carbon forms' resistance to disease…

      Similar effects on the developing fish-embryo and young fish would thus be expected to lead to a reduced ability to fight off diseases and natural enemies, leading to a decline in the total fish population within a year or two of the deposition of intensely active fresh fallout debris,…"

    • J.

      As always, ENEnews is one of the few sites with comments worth reading. Thank you for this link.

  • As long as Wood's Hole continues to test *seawater and not *plankton no one will know the true numbers of anything…but they already knew that. If you have $500 bucks laying around you can throw it away towards their bullsh*t study.


  • Shaker1

    Who has the densovirus? Us or them?

    It's good to hear that someone is actually doing some research. Remember Bo's discussion with Dasher and Bueseller? Didn't they both mention lack of funds?

    All the while the US can spend tillions on 'defense'.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    As long as Woods Hole exists on the planet ..there will be no real truths coming.

    BP refutes new study finding oil embedded in Gulf floor
    Feb 9 2015

    Wood's Hole ..helping out..
    The blanket and oil and corexit ..could be from natural seeps.
    Or rather natural seeps could be involved.
    Seeps the disturbed ..Biloxi Dome, etc.

    Perhaps they wouldn't mind posting all the data from their expedition ..let's see those seeps ..again.

    But how so ..when these seeps were naturally made and showed no presentation in this manner before?

    " it is possible for oil from the seabed to collect in the sediment over hundreds of thousands of years."

    But are the qualities the same after thousands of years?

    Blanket ..and what is under the blanket?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Typo.. the blanket of oil and corexit.
    Wood's Hole ..the "Propaganist's of the Sea".
    And red-blooded American..wants to think that propaganda is not being used against them.
    Yet is.
    More importantly ..those that are involved in science ..are twisting and deleting fact.
    Truly leading ..Humanity into the dark.
    We must resist ..for the very sake of Human intelligence.
    Although ..if Human continues ..on the path of destruction ..perhaps being crazy and stupid ..will be the only way to cope.

    (Good enough for future kings ..huh ..William?)

  • [3] other marine life doesn’t appear to be affected.


    • Oto; that's what got me, too.
      Yes. Other species, even in areas where these (ahem), "scientists", ply their trade (and their silliness), other species are being affected.
      I guess they think we're too dumb to know the difference?

      • I look around, and answer that question everyday we go walking. People have NO CLUE what this ongoing disaster even is!

        Couple days ago I needed an emergency crown placed on a molar that impacted so tight from the Fibula bone from my leg attempting to regrow so much in my skull where it was rebuilt with the leg bone, that it cracked the molar in half! I can still hear that drill in my head!

        While at this dentist I mentioned a few keyword search terms I use. These people are really good at what they do, but are completely clueless to what is happening after 4 entire years. Sad this note is, because 100% of the people my wife and I have tested as of late, 100% had no idea what we were talking about!

        • Onto, that's one of the most frightening thoughts…the Fibula used in your reconstructive surgery attempting to regrow! There are people right now trying to figure out what to do about teeth and jaw bones that have steadily changed for the worse from the radiation factor.

          Picking a dentist is a nightmare. Not just a simple thing of arranging to get dentures. I think after looking at a person's X-rays, the reconstructive jaw surgery would be advised if the shrinking and damages are significant I fear most, if not all orthodontists, couldn't possibly have experience with additional problems that can occur now.

        • norbu norbu

          Onto, only those who care, care enough to take the time to listen. Most are in there Brain Prison. If everyone knew we would have total Chaos…I gave up thinking the world was going to wake up and do something about this mess. Sad but true, ELE. How much time do we, the human race, have?? One of these days we will find out…….."Tens of millions dead"

        • 4Yahshua

          3~14~5997 (out of 6000) Sabbath in this "Doomsday Apocalypse"!
          Last Evil Days of "Manmean"!

          Just had to comment about your sad dental experience. I pray that you will heal well.
          Going to a dentist sometimes is like entering a minefield!
          A couple of years ago a dentist told me that my tooth cracked in half because my gum grew into the tooth. He wanted me to do a crown or implant. Instead, I asked for a bridge. Hubby has one that has lasted forty years. Implants don't last more than a few years and root canals can be dangerous to your health. If your bone structure is solid, bridges are most long lasting and economical. Actually my smile now looks better than before the tooth break. Taking calcium/magnesium/zinc(We take Solaray capsules)at night will improve and heal bones including teeth.


          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Yes, Cal Mag Zinc, but take the zinc separately from the calcium and magnesium. So says my doctor, who is an expert in nutrition. (Was taking it all together.) Doc says it doesn't get metabolized or utilized when the zinc is taken along with the other two minerals.

            • HoTaters; That idea of taking meds and supplements at different times (and not together) is driving me madd! After almost a year of taking levothyroxine (post thyroid removal), I finally read the literature. There are so many things I'm not supposed to take this with, or I can take but at another time of day, it's crazy!
              "Don't take iron, but if you do, take it later in the day."
              "Don't eat grapefruit or take with grapefruit juice, but if you do, make it late in the day."
              "Don't take calcium. But, if you do, not til later in the day."
              And done take iron and calcium with grapefruit juice, ever….

              There are not enough hours in the day for me to work these things out.

        • Onto; I agree. The vast majority of people have no clue. I think most people are just trying to deal with everyday challanges.. But, I think a lot of these challanges come about because of what's happened (cancers and other illnesses which effect a heck of a lot of people around the world.) I don't know if they find it difficult to concentrate on the cause because they're so busy dealing with the effects, but that seems to be the case.
          And I am not going to bore you with my multiple head and and neck surgery history. Just will say, I feel ya on the dental/tmj/ogs surgery front…. Hope it's cleared up.

  • Now, see? These guys just aren't being honest.
    On the one hand, they are saying it hasn't crossed species. Yet, they then do talk about it propagating (the virus) into cucumbers and urchins. We have seen anemonies take a hit. So have kelp and mussels and welks and many other creatures, particularly further up the western coast.
    Now, do I think these creatures are actually suffering from radiation poisoning? Not exactly. I do agree it is a virus or, more likely, a group of viruses, that have infected these sea and creatures within. But, I would have to also say the radiation is growing the virus(es) and is quite possibly playing a large role in mutating viruses that different species have essentially developed resistance to, in the past. That can hit harder and is affecting (killing) populations throughout the Pacific.

    Sure, I can be wrong, but I am resistant to the idea that 3 (or five) full-core meltdowns, along with huge explosions of *who knows how many* fuel-pool(s), right ON the Pacific, would not be affecting all of the ocean. Ultimately, it will affect all of the oceans on earth, if it hasn't already, to one degree or another. Any scientist worth his salt (no pun intended) comprehends this.

    • *edit*
      "..have infected the sea creatures within."
      (Hate it when that happens.)

    • Shaker1

      AnneBeck, my thoughts exactly, but I might also add that the water itself might also have its effects, just very subtly. The effects might manifest at first in single locations that enhance all circumstances at once, then break out of those circumstances and manifest more generally, just like a what might be a normal pattern of infection.

      We really don't want urchins to become spinless shells into which we've put memory of their existence, do we?

      • Well, yeah; Shaker & WNTF..
        Like I posted (another thread?), I do think tritium, replacing (one?) hydrogen atom in WATER (hello!), all over the Pacific, is having a huge impact. In fact, I do think tritium is going to be THE biggest factor in the death of the Pacific.
        But,and if –big IF– if it is true that seastars and other creatures are dying from viruses and bacteria, I would say this is because those diseases have been puffed-up by radionuclides (including Cesium and Strontium and, now more than ever, Americium..)

        That's the thing about radiation; it both decays and mutates everything around it. So, if you don't end up with a big ol' hole in your side, you'll grow a tumor. WHICH will kill you first?

  • Jebus Jebus

    The simple big picture.

    Untold massive amounts of radionuclides into the Ocean.

    Uncounted billions of tiny sea creatures, viruses, algae.

    Life cycles as short as a day to many decades.

    Ships, planes, product, shipped all over the planet.

    Does anyone believe there are no species mutations happening in this toxic brew?

    The result always equals the sum of the parts…

  • Sol Man

    Sometimes the truth is so ugly that thinking is repressed.

    We'll finally understand once we are not here.

  • We Not They Finally

    Do the people worried about the sea stars and the people worried about the sea lions and the people worried about the sardines and the people worried about the shellfish (etc., etc.) even TALK to each other?

  • antipodes

    Melting Mermaid, WNTF, Gentle Giant Thank you for your responses and ideas concerning the suggestion of having a conference some place(s) in the U.S. I think most here would like to meet each other in person, and that over say 2-3 days we could come up with ideas that would help with our common endeavor to put an end to this nuclear madness. Towns with university settings make the most sense to me for obvious reasons, one being that the young are often receptive, eager to learn, and have the time and energy, plus there is the local established intelligentsia that could lend to helpful interaction.

  • bo bo

    ALL screenings of Ian Thomas Ash's Fukushima documentary 'A2BC' movie in Japan to be CANCELLED by sudden decision by distributor, with 2 years still remaining in original contract.

    • bo bo

      From his blopost

      'The Japanese distributor of 'A2-B-C' (WEBSITE), my documentary about children living in Fukushima, is cancelling all domestic screenings of the film.  They are also canceling the contract to distribute the film in Japan, despite there being more than two years remaining on the agreement…

      ..I had already been planning to attend the two screenings in Nagano today, and the distributor has instructed me to publicly make the announcement about the cancellations here for the first time.  Inviting a few journalists to be in the audience, I am turning the Q&A into an impromptu press conference.  My hands are shaking as I post this entry and am about to walk out on stage for the first of the two post-screening discussions that will be held here in Nagano today and which will mark the last time I will see my film screened in Japan.I have no idea what I am going to say, but I can assure you that any attempt to make me quiet will only succeed in making me louder.'

    • J.

      Thanks for this information, Bo. It's important. I hope Ian will put his film on the Internet, maybe Vimeo. There's no way to prevent people from seeing the story he tells if he gives it away there.

  • or-well

    I was afraid of that. I posted his blog recently where he said the first screening in Fukushima had been cancelled.

    scroll down for the news.

    I trust those expats who love Japan and have a voice there will make sure this does not go un-remarked.

    • or-well

      International screenings of A@-B-C


      NEBRASKA, USA at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln
      April 9, 2015 (INFO TBA)*
      HAWAI’I, USA at the University of Hawai’i Hilo
      March 16, 2015 at 5:00pm (INFO)*
      OTAGO, NEW ZEALAND at the University of Otago
      March 13 at the symposium “Cinema and Post-Disaster Public Sphere” (INFO)
      March 11, 2015 (INFO)
      BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA at the University of British Columbia, Vancouver
      March 11, 2015 (INFO)*
      HAWAI’I, USA at the University of Hawai’i
      March 11, 2015 at 4:15pm UHM Art Auditorium (INFO)
      HAWAI’I, USA in Kailua Kona
      March 10, 2015 at 6:30pm (INFO)
      CALIFORNIA, USA in San Diego
      March 8, 2015 (INFO)*
      March 3, 2015 at 19:00 (INFO)
      VIRGINIA, USA at William and Mary College
      February 11, 2015 at 18:30 (INFO)**
      January 15, 2015 at 20:00 (INFO)
      December 17, 2014 at 19:00 (INFO)*
      BRUSSELS, BELGIUM at Cinema Nova
      November 29, 2014 at 19:00 (INFO)**
      QUEBEC, CANADA at McGill University, Montreal
      November 18, 2014 at 18:00 (INFO)*
      NEW YORK, USA in Lake Champlain International Film Festival
      November 15, 2014 at 18:30, double feature with ‘In the Grey Zone‘ (INFO)*
      PARIS, FRANCE at Cinéma La Clef
      November 5, 2014 at 20:00 (INFO)
      CALIFORNIA, USA screening in Alvis Showroom, LA (INFO)
      November 2, 2014 at 12:00 noon (INFO)**

    • or-well

      More International screenings of A2-B-C

      SINGAPORE, Nanyang Technological University
      “Exposure and Effect: Measuring safety, environment and life in Asia” (INFO)
      October 11-12 2014 (INFO) *
      BERLIN, GERMANY in Uranium Film Festival, Berlin
      October 1, 2014 at 15:30 (INFO)
      NEW YORK, USA in Greenpoint Film Festival
      September 20, 2014 at 18:00 (INFO)
      MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA at Monash University
      September 18, 2014 at 18:00 (INFO)**
      MASSACHUSETTS, USA in encore screenings of Newburyport Documentary Film Festival
      August 24, 2014 and September 7, 2014 at 7:30PM (INFO)**
      Various Cities, SCOTLAND in the Document Film Festival on Tour
      July 12, 2014 at 19:30 in Dundee (INFO)
      July 26, 2014 at 19:30 in Aberdeen (INFO)
      July 5, 2014 at 20:00 (INFO)
      GDANSK, POLAND at the Gdańsk DocFilm Festival
      June 6, 2014 at 20:00 (INFO)
      RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL at the Uranium Film Festival
      May 18, 2014 at 19:00 (INFO)*
      EDMONTON, CANADA at Global Visions Film Festival
      May 12, 2014 at 18:30 (INFO), followed by a screening of ‘In the Grey Zone‘ (2012)*
      Various cities, TAIWAN (INFO)
      March 31, 2014 and May 16, 2014 at 19:00 and May 16 at 19:00, National Taiwan University
      April 12, 2014 at 13:00, Cultural Affairs Bureau of Taoyuan County Government
      May 24, 2014 at 13:00, National Museum of Natural Science
      PENNSYLVANIA, USA at the Bryn Mawr Film Institute
      March 31, 2014 (INFO) *
      NYC, USA
      March 30, 2014 (INFO) *

    • or-well

      I apologise. Many screenings have happened already. I'm angry and not paying enough attention.

      • bo bo

        Thank u or-well. I know. I'm angry too.

        • You know, I just found his work, this film. And I was looking forward to seeing it (I watched all of the clips, in different languages, even.)
          How frustrating that they are now cutting him off. (We see this in a few different areas of thought..)

          It's like they now think they can put that genie back in the bottle…? Of course, for the unwashed-masses, that genie was never out.

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  • or-well

    Japanese Government Pressures American Publisher to Delete Textbook Treatment of Wartime Sexual Slavery: An Interview with Herbert Ziegler
    Mar. 09, 2015 11:11:00

  • Jebus Jebus

    Atom by atom.

    Second by second.

    Hour by hour.

    Day by day.

    Year by year.

    And soon, decade by decade, the future of man, is slipping away…

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks……….

  • from a distance from a distance

    I really like how ENENEWS admin asked great questions and answers them in the original post.

    ENENEWS doesn't need our dumb comments 🙂

    From ENENEWS admin above:

    "[1] Is it a fact this disease predates the 2011 arrival of the Fukushima plume on the West Coast?

    Melissa Miner, researcher who works for Dr. Raimondi (at 18:30): “The Olympic coast was the first place, in June 2013, where we saw the disease.”

    Miner (at 4:45): “This is very different from prior events…It’s not associated w/ warm water … Populations really [got] hit hard over the winter, this has never happened… The other big difference… is the geographic extent is much, much larger than we’ve ever seen.”

    [2] Is it a fact the die-offs are observable on both US coasts?

    Miner (50:45 in): “I think it was just a few-month epidemic on the East Coast of the US… My feeling, because we have not heard a lot about it, is that it sort of disappeared. It just lasted a few months and then was gone.”

    [3] Is it a fact other marine life doesn’t appear to be affected?

    “Researchers are now keeping an eye on other echinoderms, such as sea urchins and sea cucumbers. Wasting has been observed in those animals… ‘We’re seeing urchins in southern California with lesions in areas where stars were dying’ [said Miner].” -Source
    Miner (43:15 in): “People are really watching closely [if] it will spread… We’ve had isolated observations of sick urchins and sea cucumbers w/ lesions and other odd looking things.” "

    • from a distance from a distance

      NOTE that the researcher specifically states that this isn't happening due to warm water.

      • I think this is to counter the tools who were trying to say it was (or would be) an El-Nino year, or allude to red-tides. Neither was/is true, but some tend to go there, so they can use the, "global warming scenario", to explain the horror-show in the Pacific.
        The thing is, global warming does not explain a bit of this, unless one includes Fukushima as the catalyst for such a thing (or Chernobyl with a huge bump from Fukushima..)
        Anything they can say to avoid saying RADIATION is what they will employ (or leak, as in Fulushima, leaking, pouring, spewing, into the Pacific) as the cover-up is more important than the ELE for ocean-life (and peoples on the beaches and beyond.)

      • Absolutely distance, tnx! Awesome to pass along..listening now too. Admin's link to the utoob.
        Miner just said "some are calling it COLD water wasting". Fist bump! I lurves you Marissa. 🙂

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Pacific ocean current moves east towards US West Coast, thus the dying sea creatures.

  • First lesions, then spasms, convulsions, bleeding, then death, seems to the common pattern across all species.

    Yup, sure sounds like a common virus.


  • Jebus Jebus

    I know muckity does not fit everyones views, but it is a great jump off point to explore some rabbit holes…


    Forget DLA Piper. ya they hired the largest law?/lobbiy firm on the planet. Short rabbit hole, many tunnels connected.

    So pop open the FDNPP "thought" bubble.

    Simple. Now pop open the connected 2011 Earthquake/Tsunami bubble.

    Hmm, International Charter on Space and Natural Disasters.

    Pop open the bubble. It all seems so organized and inclusive.

    Looks like everything is handled, per a mandated protocol.

    wiki "International Charter on Space and Natural Disasters."

    OK, that looks like a good thing. Centralized management of disasters.

    Till you think about the elicit corporate political money connections.

    Till you think about the control and manipulation of information that this inherently presents…

    Kinda shows one how it's done…

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    'Interesting' ban..

    Shrimp bans agreed in Gulf of California and Pacific Ocean
    March 13 2014

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      funny quote from prof Samet of USC; "The radiation released by the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant was largely concentrated in Japan and over the Pacific Ocean." Expected to be of little risk

      largely concentrated over the pacific ocean indeed…

    • Mmmm. So, the shrimp are disappearing, too. At the end of this article, they allude to this being due to over-shrimping (yeesh.) And it's after they say it's due to, "virus and disease".., same as the stars and urchins and anemonies, and so much more.
      Banning shrimpers is not going to save the shrimp. But it is the best they could come up with (following the usual stupid path.)

      Just as long as nobody says, Fukushima..


    I used to wonder where my daughter would work, what life in general would hold. Now, these questions have been replaced with, where will she get clean water? What kind of food will be available, and what parts of the country, and world, will still be habitable?
    I don't think things are getting bad, I believe they are becoming catastrophic. Life as we know it might be at an end on this planet.
    Recent US Navy research states the Arctic will be ice-free by 2016, scientists in general predict 2018. If the summer sea ice loss passes the point of no return, and if catastrophic Arctic methane feedbacks kick in, we'll be in an instant planetary emergency.
    We have never been on a planet with no Arctic ice..With CO2 levels at 400+..
    Methane plumes are now bubbling up in the Siberian Sea, millions of square miles of methane cover is now being released. Methane is 23 times more powerful than CO2 [ per molecule] and 105 times more potent in heating
    up the planet.
    According to Nature Geoscience, the Northern Siberian Shelf is releasing 1million tons of methane per year. Some scientists fear that the situation is so serious and so many self-reinforcing feedback loops are already in play, that we are in the process of causing our own extinction. We are now witnessing rapid changes in the Earth system. Secure your food and water source while there is still time..

  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    Man oh man are we getting pissed off here or what? I think we have come to a tipping point where we know the facts are catching up with all the lies we have been fed for the last 4 years! I came to this conclusion before I discovered ENE just from the denial of information instead of the fucking alarm I was supposed to hear that was pounded into my little brain about "the great enemy" and their intent on blowing us all to hell with their nuclear weapons! Fucked royally right where it hurts is what this is! Not a fucking thing can be done to fix what has been broken I believe! It's beyond me by far and all of you seem to feel the same…fuck it! The shitheads win, if you want to call it that! They can bomb the fuck out of whatever they want! Fuck them! Shit! Fuckin happy whatever

  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    Note: Drunken St. Patty day tirade, sorry I can't take it back…hell why should I!

    • GOM GOM

      Tin. Don't apologize. I feel the same way, used to be angry. Now I live in the "acceptance stage". If I can make a suggestion, read "On Death and Dying" by Kubler-Ross. It addresses the 5 stages of loss and grief. You can find a good summary of her work at or just google it.
      Peace and good thoughts to you and yours.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    I would think there would be a point in time when testing the water supply in California ..for radiation contamination ..might be appropriate.
    Oh.. that's right ..what water supply?

    Only 1 year of water left in California, NASA scientist suggests rationing

    A satellite was put up recently to detect water.
    They are going to know every contaminated drop that goes down our parched throats.
    You betcha..

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Oh..that's it! ..worry about Putin ..when one of the prime food producing areas in the US…is being geo-engineered to DEATH.

    Better had ..before the people want to test the crops.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

      No one is worried about Putin. His disappearance may because he is suffering from radiation poisoning. Or he may be held against his will because of economic problems or political hard liners. If someone launches the 45,000 plutonium pits, it is curtains for the world.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

      California is running out of water because of global warming caused by nuclear energy and nuclear weapons production and radiation used to for for anything else and by CO2 from fossil fuels. Nuclear energy uses huge amounts of fossil fuels in the whole nuclear cycle. Fukushima caused holes in the ozone layer and lets in more cosmic radiation which produces more Krypton-85. Some areas get huge storms and other areas get drought.

      If people were vegan and ate only organic and used only wind, solar, or geothermal energy and would live in peace we could save the earth. It is the insane acts of people that is causing the drought in California. There was no way that California could ever sustain so much population growth. Now all the land has been destroyed by radiation and by Round-Up and other pesticides and herbicides.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising Jesus

        Nuclear energy destroys water, nuclear weapons production destroys water, fracking destroys water, pipelines and oil spills destroys water, all the green lawns destroy water. If all the green lawns were land used for organic plant food production and all the toxic lawn productions banned the earth might have a chance. All the golf courses destroy the land with toxic chemicals to artificially grow grass.

        Our civilization is not civilized but is extremely shallow. The poor children who have been destroyed by radiation and toxic chemicals are proof that our civilization is not civilized at all. It is a death culture enslaved to post cards and false values.

        The health of the future generations should be the first priority, not the last priority.

    • GOM GOM

      Monsanto given green light for new GMO seed that is its own weed killer…right, who the hell cares that Putin, Jinping, and Obama are in meetings in Russia..?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Probably ..where I read your post..

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Baby great white sharks surprise Southern California beachgoers

    March 13 2015

    The official says he has never seen anything like this before in 18 years.

    No worries they are just young and hungry ..take the kids swimming…(sarcasm)

    • Californians: "We don'thave great-whites in our water!"
      Yes, Cali; you do, now!

      Anyone else know why these massive animals have (suddenly, as in the past few years..) migrated all the way up into Alaska, the Allutians, and Canada (and off of Russia)? I bet *almost* everyone in this thread knows.., and it is not "only" due to the overuse of fossil fuels. I saw a pretty good video in PBS (believe it or not) about this phemomenon. The writers did say it was climate change, as the climate change is most obvious up there, but they did NOT limit the reasons for said change to fossil fuels. That actually impressed me; that they didn't go there and stay there.

      I learned quite a bit about great-whites, from that documentary (and there are few films I qualify as documentary)…

  • Nick

    A new species of Californian was seen the other day; it looked like a hominid with an ostrich torso and neck which tended to bury it's head in the sands of sanity ignoring dead sea life washing up at it's ankles.

    This same species has decided that wayward atomic energies from awol reactor cores and fools pools is to be ignored AT ALL COSTS.

    Instead, these semi-sentient beings will fill out their March Madness brackets before noticing the absence of marine life and proclaim that it is disease NOT rads that are to blame.

    • hbjon hbjon

      Nick, they are "full on" sentient being who have found survival value in ignoring the subjective facts as they obtrude upon the senses. We are taught as children that we must read to gain knowledge, later on in life we find that everything we read has been carefully written to give us false opinions so that tptb continue to sell us their green eggs and ham. I suppose through repetition we get desensitized to the garbage and finally accept it.

  • "NOAA jet hit by FISH" divine justice!

    apparently happened dec 2013, then reported in mar/apr 2014 you can't make this stuff up!!

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Pretty sure they are trying to talk to us..or end our stay on this planet.

    We humans have not been very nice to any of the other animals. 🙁

    We are bad animals..

  • stinkyperfume stinkyperfume

    Dying California Coastlines: They knew they were going to do Fukushima ahead of time. On 3/11/2009 the process of selling a ton of real estate to the non-insiders was in progress. Huge amounts of properties changed hands as they got out, so I saw this in land records in California, this can be seen who is an insider, just look at who sold and real estate. The up and coming new "Venice", California was largely sold and the new comers had a TV show about "Venice" which petered OUT after a few episodes…it was all as scam to sell. 2012, I see lot's of homeless suicides, and dropping dead, like huge amounts of them, the police stopped bothering them so much, they knew they would die of radiation anyway by then…Most of them were drunken or drug addicts but not me. I had two bloody noses out of the radiation, kinda obvious. Seeing dead birds, squirrels, and racoons, dropping on the sidewalk and grass all the time, but that didn't happen until 2013. Then in 2014 Eden my friend died. She was brilliant, lived in a homeless motor home. She had cancer as a child and went into chemotherapy and radiation and wasn't a high energy person but didn't know she wasn't cured. She was about 55 years old, straight, and just in court all the time with strange police issues over nothing besides homeless rights. She got outrageous cancer and dropped dead in two months. I can see if you already have had x-radiation therapy, dentists, x-ray surgery, your among the first to die.

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