Expert: “Can’t be changed & can’t be stopped”; Radioactive Fukushima water will continually enter ocean — Significant ‘discreet leaks’ recently — West Coast “should be alarmed” at lack of testing—Levels rising for 2 years & expected to increase

Published: January 24th, 2014 at 8:55 pm ET


KION, Jan. 22, 2014 (emphasis added):

The concern now is that the plume of radioactive isotopes is set to finally reach Central Coast waters but there are no agencies to measure them. […]

Q: Has there been a significant radiation leakage event from Fukushima in the last three weeks?

Dr. Ken Buesseler oceanographer and scientist on ocean radiation from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute: Over the summer, there were a couple of discreet leaks but what we’re expecting to detect off the West Coast is from 2011 […] We have cesium already in the Pacific Ocean […] the question is how quickly will that go up? How high will that go up? The predictions are rather low and are not of direct concern, but no one makes measurements of these isotopes along that coast. […] No one is measuring so therefore we should be alarmed. […]

Q: So we shouldn’t be concerned about the fish we eat from the Pacific Ocean?

Buesseler: Right now, from what I’ve seen there are no levels of concern and that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be looking for that. The story has been changing for these two years from a large release of cesium isotopes to a potential release of strontium 90 […] one lesson that is very clear here is that there is a connection about what’s happening on land with the groundwater near Fukushima and the ocean and that harbor. There is a direct exchange that can’t be changed and can’t be stopped.[…]

Q: What would you tell the public right now, is there a concern for our health given the Fukushima fallout?

Buesseler: With current conditions I’d say go swimming, go boating and eat the fish in the Pacific Ocean. I don’t have concerns. But they still need to be monitored. They’ve been going up for two years now. We’re expecting these levels to increase, but I’m also concerned there’s not support to do these types of analyses […]

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Published: January 24th, 2014 at 8:55 pm ET


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179 comments to Expert: “Can’t be changed & can’t be stopped”; Radioactive Fukushima water will continually enter ocean — Significant ‘discreet leaks’ recently — West Coast “should be alarmed” at lack of testing—Levels rising for 2 years & expected to increase

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture


    People know the situation is helpless, and many are moving. As for measurements, dying sea life is the barometer, and everyone knows about it already.

  • Lion76 Lion76

    This Ken guy… love how he speaks about what is going on at Fukushima like he actually knows yet he doesn't have the brains to know what is "really" happening since day one.

    Either he's criminally negligent in his "expertise" or he's a paid shill. Or he just has an arrogance/hubris/ego problem.

    • utahruss utahruss

      Yes there are a lot of paid shills, some you may be very surprised by who they are.

      Interesting little conversation about that very topic of who people are blindly following to get information . A little long, but some very interesting questions posed, oh and 1 swear word around 1:00 minute or so into the video

  • digitalaardvarks digitalaardvarks

    the institute is funded by chevron and the dept of defense among others

    • ENENews

      Last week: "Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Scientist Receives Grant from the Paul G. Allen Family Foundation"

      Excerpt: "We hope that funding… will provide useful information for climate predictions and assessment of changing Artic conditions."

      Last June: "Billionaire Paul Allen Backed Pro-Nuclear Power Film Pandora's Promise"

      • Jebus Jebus

        Does this mean Kenny has gone rogue?

        • weegokiburi weegokiburi

          'I think there are going to be many things you will hear for the first time. I would truly like you to read it through to the end, and then let’s think what we should do about nuclear power plants.'

        • We Not They Finally

          He was never that great. Saw him (on the internet) at the conference Helen Caldicott sponsored in New York last March, and was already angry at the under-estimates. Helen Caldicott is an AMAZINGLY committed activist. I'd be shocked if she ever invited him again.

          The nicest thing I could say about the guy is that he is tone deaf. But it's way past that by way.

      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

        Ene Admin….So in other words the grant from the Paul G. Allen Family Foundation confirms Buesseler is bought and paid for and we will never hear the complete truth, just enough information to make us believe it is fact….

      • SadieDog

        Nice catch.

      • zogerke zogerke

        from the forbes article about pandora's promise and stone:

        <<The nuclear meltdown at Fukushima is of course the most recent accident, and Stone visits the plant there as well.”It was a deeply emotional experience… to go there,” he said. “Well, nobody has died and no one has gotten sick from radiation, and no one ever will. Your rational mind kicks off and your emotional mind kicks in” when faced with a disaster like Fukushima. His film does show the stark devastation around the plant.>>

        Kind of makes me sick to my stomach. Maybe he should have spent more time there and eaten lots of fish.

        • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

          Zog…All of the nuclear sadists make me sick to my stomach…agreed…I think he should take his money from Paul Allan and buy a big plate of Sushi.

          • zogerke zogerke

            newsblackout…..yah. i don't get it. I do not.

            fresh pink cesium tuna sashimi special for them……

            It is about following the money. that is the only way i understand people's; these scientists choices. Or, it is about being pressured to not <panic> the populace. And having integrity purchased …..

            As others have mentioned, i'm waiting for an insider (though not holding my breath.) I wish there would be a Snowden or Manning or Anonymous to release something more that reflected the real deal. And made a good buckyball splash in the sea of public opinion…..

            • weegokiburi weegokiburi

              Re reflecting the real deal
              This is a piece from a Japanese who helped build them for 20 yearstleblower I've seen
              And not comfortable reading
              All Japanese plants are accidents waiting to happen due to shoddy building practices and lack of oversight
              He died from cancer in 1997
              It's a reasonable translation I think and the nearest to a whistleblower I e scone acros from a Japanese insider

              • name999 name999

                weegokiburi, the piece by Norio Hirai is very powerful. Definitely an amazing journal from a decent person who had to break through the denial of the nuclear industry in Japan.

                He says, "people can't even talk to each other" while working at nuke plants. Horrible tortured workplaces.

                • weegokiburi weegokiburi

                  Thank you for taking the time to read it through.
                  And I appreciate your comment.

                • weegokiburi weegokiburi

                  I've been getting great info from this site re the tec for a while. Most of which I struggle to understand.
                  But just started posting recently.
                  Mostly cos Im not so young or tec savvy so been hesitating.
                  Strangely the football(Im European)fff##ker was the stimulus to go for it and become more proactive… I got pissed.
                  I think the back story should be known too.
                  Everyone here can bring different things to the table to inform and exchange knowledge .
                  If we don't work out how we got here we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

                  • Homolumina Homolumina

                    Our males need to be initiated. All western industrial societies are run by immature, competitive, territorial, aggressive, disconnected from life, non initiated males who are death oriented. This IS at the very root of all the problems we have – we are being driven now finally to extinction. I am more than happy to proof my claim, I cannot do this within this forum though. Male initiation is the most important action to take.

              • zogerke zogerke

                from weegkiburi's link, which i am just reading now, putting it to the attentionm of the dayshift here:

                Because it is dark and hot at nuclear power plant sites, people also wear protective masks; it is a place where people can’t even talk to each other, so they have to use body language. So this way, good skills can't be taught. In addition, the more skillful a worker is, the earlier the worker uses the maximum permissible dose in a year, and then they can’t enter. So amateurs are also ok moreover.

                Besides, for example, if you are a welding craftsman, your eyes get hurt. When you’re over 30 years old, your work is already done; you can’t do the detailed work anymore. So you are someone who is not suitable to work at oil plants where there are many fine workers. Well, in that case, even the daily allowance is cheap, so he might as well go to a nuclear power plant.

                People have the wrong idea somehow. You might think that a nuclear power plant is something that is very technically advanced. It is not a premium one. So since nuclear power plants are built by some amateurs, the nuclear power plant is something you just can do nothing with in the future.


                • zogerke zogerke

                  from the link:
                  In 1993 the output jumped up in Unit 1 of Onagawa Nuclear Power Plant in an earthquake with an intensity of 4 on the Japanese seven-stage seismic scale, automatic shutdown, and this accident was a serious one. Why was it serious? It was constructed to stop at an intensity of 5 in 1984 in this nuclear power plant, it was not 5, but it stopped. To put it in a simpler way, suppose you’re driving on the freeway, you didn’t step on the brakes, but the brakes stopped suddenly; it is the same thing. This is not as simple as Tohoku Electric said that it was good that it stopped. When it was designed to stop at 5, but stopped at 4, it could mean that it could not stop at 5. In other words, it is showing that various things do not go as designed.

                  Such an unusual stoppage at the nuclear power plant during an earthquake happened also at the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant in 1987. There were as many as 10 nuclear power plants of the same type in Japan. Isn’t it really frightening when we think about earthquakes and nuclear power plants?

                  • zogerke zogerke

                    For example, when working on tightening bolts with screws, you give them instruction such as "Please lock it in diagonal, otherwise it will leak." The working place is a radiation controlled environment, so it’s full of radioactivity, the worst place. You attach an alarm meter upon entering the site, because depending on the locations, the amount of radiation is different, and the time when you can work is different. The schedule has everything worked out to the minute.

                    Before entering the site, the work and time of the day is determined by the amount of radioactivity passible for one person for the day; in the site you can work for 20 minutes, when the 20 minutes is up, the alarm meter rings. So you give them instruction that “When the alarm meter rings, please leave the site.” But there is no clock on the site. If you enter with a clock, the clock will be contaminated with radioactivity, so only your internal clock. You go in the site this way.

                    So locking the bolts with the screw in there, you think that maybe 10 minutes passed; maybe 15 minutes passed, your mind goes only there. The ring of the alarm meter is scary. The arm meter makes an outrageous sound. When one hears it for the first time, it is scary that your face can become bloodless. You can know if you don’t experience it. When it makes the sound, if it is x-ray, it approximately equals to the amount of radiation that can transcribe dozens once. So even you instruct them that “clock it in…

                    • zogerke zogerke

                      I have had internal exposure more than 100 times, so I have cancer. When I was told that I was diagnosed with cancer, I was so scared thinking of what to do. I am going to die. However, my mother always said, “there is nothing that is greater than death." So well, I thought I’d do something before I die. What I thought is that I’d reveal all the things I know about nuclear power plants.

                      It is Completely Different from a Usual Workplace.

                      Radioactivity accumulates. No matter how minor, if it’s 10 years, it accumulates for those 10 years. This is scary.

              • 富岡_Blue_Heron 富岡_Blue_Heron

                What a terrific read. thanks for linking. I thought the author's remarks re inspections were especially interesting. It raises the whole issue of licensing and accreditation and the cozy relationship between the industry and its regulators.

              • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

                weegokiburi…thank you so much for this link, and thanks to zogerke for the printed translation. It really explains the depth of suffering Nuclear Energy has caused humanity and the Earth.

          • name999 name999

            a really really big plate.

          • James Tekton James Tekton

            "I’d say go swimming, go boating and eat the fish in the Pacific Ocean."

            "I think he should take his money from Paul Allan and buy a big plate of Sushi."

            Hey yo, News.

            One is reminiscent of the broadcaster in japan that said somewhat these same things, and actually ate the food.

            Isn't he dead now?


      • mairs mairs

        That's why there's been a push to defund agencies and have them beg for donations from the wealthy. That's why Mitt Romney mentioned defunding "Big Bird"… PBS. Billionaires then step into the funding gap and can then influence and censor what we're told. Not that the government doesn't have their own spin on things… *sigh*

      • Cisco Cisco

        Paul Allan is getting out of Dodge, or maybe Fuku's plume? He's not waiting for real estate prices to firm up. I wonder why!

        Listed in 2005 for $25 million and slashed to $13.5 million in 2009, Allan Island sold Dec. 20 for a mere $8 million, according to data from the Northwest Multiple Listing Service.

      • GOM GOM

        I know that Paul G Allen and his buddy Bill gates are deeply involved in Eugenics. The whole 'I, Robot" concept was developed by their technology programs. And now he's involved with Obama's 'Brain Initiative'. It would be in their best interest to de-populate the planet. This is evidenced by Fukushima.

      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        Great research Admin. Nice to know who we're hearing from. Ken is just about the only academic even talking about Fukushima. Good to hear where he is coming from. Typical comments here. KB is all like: "With current conditions I’d say go swimming, go boating and eat the fish in the Pacific Ocean."

        Well, Ken is welcomed to eat my share of Pacific Ocean seafood. It's not like there are signs that the Pacufic Ocean Ecosystem is collapsing, or anything. 😉

  • Flapdoodle Flapdoodle

    " the plume of radioactive isotopes is set to finally reach Central Coast waters"

    This is the biggest threat to the existence of the United States since those pesky Redcoats.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      So much of the food eaten in the US comes from California. The economic repercussions from the collapse of California alone will destroy the US economy.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        California, the ninth largest economy in the world, resorts to austerity

        “A homeless man in Los Angeles, California: the state is cutting healthcare and welfare payments”

        “California's economy is the 12th largest economy in the world (2012),[9] if the states of the U.S. were compared with other countries.[10][11] As of 2012, the gross state product (GSP) is about $2.0 trillion, which is 12.9% of the United States gross domestic product (GDP)[12]…”

        • mairs mairs

          Actually California has been doing better since that article came out 20 months ago. They are rebounding economically, and the unemployment rate which was 11% when that article came out, is now down to 8.3%.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

            Well, I was talking about the effects of radiation contamination and poisoning that is now occurring and will keep getting worse for the next 250,000 years. You can't have an economy when everyone is dead from either radiation poisoning or frying when the ice melts totally in the north pole because nuclear energy, weapons, and waste promote climate warming that can never be reversed for millions of years.

        • mairs mairs

          Oh, and in California in December, more than 15,000 people were enrolling in the insurance exchange daily, and they took the lead in implementing Medicaid expansion under the ACA for poor folk.

      • James Tekton James Tekton

        Ahhhh…now you’re getting it Anne.

        The sad thing is, these killers and corporate clowns of the money-god will profit from the death and poisoning of the crops and manufacturing until the very last minute when the entire western half of the united states is declared an unsafe forbidden zone that has daily readings of around 2,756 CPM every day all the way to the east coast.

        We have finally come to the day that we just better not eat foods that are hotter than our already high environment. Even after it is washed. The last salad and spinach we got from the store, got it back and was told it was radioactive. The awakened clerk in the store said she already knew that. No more organic salads from the store..ever more?


        • Daisy207

          They will soon find out that they can't eat money. Or buy pure water that is not radioactive. Or buy anything for that matter – because there will be nothing to buy. Medical treatment for radiation poisoning – the Doctors will be sick. If you think radon in your home will reduce the value – imagine what a tritium water supply will do to it. Its all funny money anyway – may as well have Bill Clintons picture on the front of it and read "Trust Me" with a picture of Monica on the back.

      • GOM GOM

        anne. What you said, and now everyone will get sicker, quicker. I am starting to see things in a whole new light. Have been reading up on the whole NWO takeover. They must by ecstatic now that healthcare is going single-payer [the goal] You and I both know when the 'system' is overwhelmed with radiation induced illness, we will become Japan. Next: Our biggest concern as Americans going into 2014 would be hyper-inflation. I see us sick and not affording to eat properly. A death sentence in itself.

      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        Loss of the Pacific Basin Fishing Industry will produce a decades-long recession throughout the Pacific Rim, IMHO. Thank you, Anne, as always. 🙂

    • Daisy207


  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    The levels of radiation are going to keep increasing and increasing for 250,000 years, not 2 years. The earth cannot handle another nuclear accident. Please shut down all nuclear power plants, reactors, and weapons making facilities. Nuclear reactors cause global warming and acid rain. The radiation kills the immune system and the human genome. Please leave the earth the tiniest chance.

    • Jebus Jebus

      Hear, Hear

      Words To Live By…

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Thanks Anne…the press should interview you instead of Buesseler. (IMO)

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      50 times Chernobyl's level 7 makes Fukushima a 350 at least:

      “…Fukushima Daiichi Equals 50 Plus Chernobyls
      “As Dr. Michio Kaku, a world renowned CUNY theoretical physicist pointed out on CNN March 18, 2011, Chernobyl involved one reactor and only 57.6 Tons of the reactor core went into the atmosphere. In dramatic contrast, the Fukushima Daiichi disaster immediately involved six reactors and a whopping IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency, a UN Agency) documented 2,800 Tons of highly radioactive old reactor cores.
      “Simple division tells us there are at least 48.6 Chernobyls in the burning old reactor cores pumping fiery isotopes into the Earth’s atmosphere. It is no stretch to say Fukushima Daiichi’s six reactors and the dry holding pools for old reactor cores are equal to more than 50 Chernobyl disasters.
      “Further clarification is needed, of course, and it is being worked out now by independent physicists. Note that the lethality of radioactive reactor cores goes up the first 250,000 years they are out of the reactor – not down….”

      • norbu norbu

        Thank you anne for your continued wisdom here. My alarm has not stopped since 3-11-11.
        Peace and wellness

      • SadieDog

        Anne knows of what she speaks.. Michio Kaku –

      • Most scientists are going with this;

        "total Cs-137 directly released in the ocean range from only ∼1 PBq up to as high as 27 PBq, when estimated from measured radioactivities "

        • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

          Total fuel load on 3/11 for Reactors1-3 was 690PBq of cesium.

          There has been a release into the environment of the total fuel load from Reactors1-3.
          MOX fuel was blown clean out of Reactor1&3, some fuel pellets being found 2km from Unit3.
          All remaining fuel melted down, melted through, and melted out of Reactors1-3.
          Reactors and Containments have been rinsed out with water continuously since 3/11, with only a portion of the rinse water being recovered.
          Even the tank farm is leaking recovered rinse water.
          Groundwater is flowing through corium lava tubes and into the Pacific Ocean.
          Reactors1-3 and Containments1-3 are cracked and leaking, so there is no longer any " containment" in place at Reactors1-3.

          Therefore, there has been a release of cesium into the environment from Units1-3 of 690 PBq.

          And this doesn't even count burning SFP4 and releases from Unit5, etc.

          • Agreed… the spent fuel pools contained MULTIPLES of what was in the reactors, and it was all highly radioactive, so you can easily quadruple the 690 PBQ number.

            2,100 Pbq is probably closer to the truth of what happened.

            That is still ignoring the massive amount of plutonium released and the effect that it has on all life forms.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      Chernobyl is still getting worse, Mayak is still getting worse, Hanford is still getting worse, Los Alamos is still getting worse:

      Chernobyl: Crime without Punishment [Hardcover]
      Alla A. Yaroshinskaya (Author)

      This Russian journalist also discusses accidents at Mayak and contamination in the Urals, pp. 219-

    • name999 name999

      You say this so well for all of us here.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      “…Remember, the long-lived element plutonium-239, which most Earthlings have heard about, and should fear essentially forever, has a half life of 24,000 years, and a hazardous life of 240,000 to 480,000 years. Only one microgram, or one MILLIONTH of one gram, has been found to be the lung-cancer-causing dose. There are 454 grams in one pound, to give you an idea of plutonium’s potency. Just twenty pounds of plutonium-239 could theoretically cause lung cancer in every human being on Earth. And there is then plenty of plutonium in Fukushima’s nuclear waste, Chernobyl’s nuclear waste (the devastated reactor No. 4 is now leaking through its surrounding sarcophagus), plus the rivers and groundwaters around Fukushima, and now the Pacific Ocean and all the land masses it touches, plus the fish and seaweed, etc., potentially vulnerable to its contaminating radionuclides’ effects. Every commercial nuclear reactor produces 400-1000 pounds of plutonium per year….”

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      Wastes of War
      Radioactivity Threatens a Mighty River
      August 17, 1998
      “…According to studies completed since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Yenisey River has been contaminated – severely in places – by three decades of discharges of radioactive particles from a state-run factory making bomb-grade plutonium. Bolshoi Balchug is just downstream from the factory.
      “The contamination is hidden in the sands of the riverbed, on the islands and in the flood plains. Radionuclides, the product of nuclear fission, including plutonium-239, cesium-137 and strontium-90, have been found hundreds of miles downstream, apparently carried by the river's powerful floods, and have been detected in the food chain….

      “In addition to nuclear tests, dangerous radiation releases came from three factories that manufactured the plutonium for the Soviet atom bomb. They contaminated the air, water and soil of the regions around them long before the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear power plant accident. The three factories were contained in secret cities known by their military designations: the Mayak facility at Chelyabinsk-65, the Siberian Chemical Combine at Tomsk-7 and the Mining and Chemical Combine at Krasnoyarsk-26, which stands on the shores of the Yenisey….
      “At Mayak, located in the Ural Mountains, immense releases of radioactivity came from wastes that were pumped into open reservoirs and Lake Karachai, as well as the 1957 catastrophic explosion of a radioactive waste container that created a…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        the 1957 catastrophic explosion of a radioactive waste container that created a massive aerial plume that exposed hundreds of thousands of people to radiation. At Tomsk-7, there was an explosion in 1993 in a 9,246-gallon tank containing uranium and plutonium that released substantial amounts of radioactivity.
        “After the Mayak explosion, the Tomsk and Krasnoyarsk factories began injecting their radioactive wastes into deep underground caverns, a practice that has pumped far more contamination into the Earth than was released at Chernobyl, though the effects of Chernobyl were more immediate because the radiation was released into the air….
        “For 30 years, the Yenisey was contaminated by radiation from a secret plutonium plant built in a city that was itself secret. Krasnoyarsk-26, now known as Zheleznogorsk, was built after World War II along the rocky east bank of the Yenisey, 37 miles downstream from the industrial city of Krasnoyarsk in central Siberia. The Yenisey, Russia's most powerful river by water volume, runs 2,050 miles through Siberia before emptying out into the Kara Sea in the Arctic Ocean….
        “These injections remain some of the largest discharges of radiation ever made into the global environment. Donald J. Bradley of the U.S. Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, in a recent study on radioactive waste in the former Soviet Union, reported that the injections at Krasnoyarsk released 1 billion curies of radioactivity into the Earth, of which 450 million curies…

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

        released 1 billion curies of radioactivity into the Earth, of which 450 million curies remained in 1996.
        “By comparison, he said, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant accident in April 1986 released 5.8 million curies, of which 1.57 million remained….”

        • orsobubu orsobubu

          Anne, every word from yours is very instructive and inspirational for me; only thing that seemingly still divides us is the interpretation of east-block political economy. In my opinion, the correct term is state capitalism, not communism, because every regime based upon wage work, money, banks and market is defined as capitalism, and every regime based on monopolism, finance, capital exports, competition on global markets and fight for strategic influence sphere is defined as imperialism. Nobody can say in USSR, China, etc there was a system independent from these factors, just the contrary. To say that in USSR there was communism without workers' exploitation is equivalent to say that in USA there is a free market without state bailouts. Since every poltical and ideological action depends directly from economy, this is a crucial question, not a mere sophism, because also nuclear policies can this way been explained by capitalistic and imperialistic conditions.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

            orsububu, why throw in the red herring of a political discussion. The point is there is so much nuclear waste stored in Russia. They are storing waste for France. Where is all the Chinese nuclear waste? We see in Louisiana the huge sinkhole. The sea floods all the caverns full of nuclear waste. The Arctic is melting and releasing methane from the northern shores of Russia. It is also flooding all the oceans of the world with radioactivity. There is no room in the world for more nuclear waste. There is already too much. We need the oceans and clean water to sustain life. We need rain that is not radioactive.

            But still the plunder and pillage of the earth continues at an ever increasing rate by the nuclear industry.

            The Cold War continues, but it is extremely lethal. Countries are just killing off all their own citizens and the citizens of the rest of the world. There is no win win here.

            We definitely know that information is being stifled in all the nuclear countries. There is no freedom of uncontrolled press in Russia or China. TV and movies are used to brainwash and control the populace. Forget the political rant and focus on the deadly nuclear industry that is suffocating the world. This is a global cabal outside and controlling the populations of the world. It is supra governmental. Forget the divisive discourse. The nuclear economy is destroying all economies for the privilege of the very few global banker families.

        • unincredulous unincredulous

          "[…] He said "a narrow shore strip" downstream from the plant had been contaminated, and that some flood lands and islands were polluted by sediment carried there by flood waters. Morozov said the factory believed the contamination was caused by "natural uranium" in the waters of the Yenisey that passed through the reactors and turned into plutonium. […]"

          Forgive me for blushing sophomoricly. Reminds me of the accidental impregnation story from high school: "Oops, I accidentally tripped and stuck my dick in it."

          Digs up that old peanut butter cups commercial, "Hey, you got your chocolate in my peanut butter!"

          Hey, we built this nuclear plant, but left it lying around, and some uranium fell into it, and created some PU. Anyone wanna buy some?

  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    Again the dribble of Ken "Woodhole" Buesseler…. the synopsis of every interview is "there is nothing to worry about"….I would respect him more if he said "nukes are good because they pay my bills."

    Ken can continue to enjoy his fish-which at McDonald's because there is nothing to worry about.

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    Why is he still talking about 'potential' release of strontium?
    Thought it had all gone sky high when unit 3 blew.

    • guevara3712

      they are talking about the groundwater release. there are models for this situation, it takes a couple years for the strontium to really start entering the water. still your question is a good one because there has been steady growth in strontium contamination in test wells at the site since we reach the 3rd year the levels are pretty dang high, and this will be spilling into the ocean reinforcing the plume reaching the west coast. several articles on ENE lately about the test well readings, check'em out.

  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    Buesseler's interview seems like misinformation…very disappointing…it should have the NOAA Tsunami wave height map next to it and then it would be complete.

  • guevara3712

    i might add, per the model i spoke of, release of significant levels of strontium would go on for like 15 years.

  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    America’s Nuclear Radiation Cover Up 1946-1958 – Barbaric Racism

    They have had practice at covering these things up. Good article and timely.

  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    Reality Video (caution strong language) Kevin Blanch

    • Jebus Jebus

      Truth Shines

      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA


      • Wyakin Wyakin

        Jebus-several days/weeks? ago you posted links to "Pandora's Lie" by independent director Ebisu. Thanks for the links. Can't find your original comment to which to link.

        I usually copy links in comments for subseuent review when I am able. The links:

        We should be alarmed by the consequences of dumping radioactive wastes at sea, and fixated on how to stop those who think it is OK to continue their toxic discharges into the air which we breath and the water we ultimately consume.

        This documentary is a great high level synopsis of the FU disaster and the appropriation and seizure of the US and international political and economic systems by the nuclear mafia. I assume no surprise to those following Enenews, but pictures and narrative assembled here are worth much more than the NP banana propaganda, especially for those being introduced to this topic.

        • Wyakin Wyakin

          The truncated list of agency colluders includes US and Canadian regulatory agencies; specific emphasis on the Department of Energy; the US corporate citizens Monsanto, Westinghouse, and GE,etc; and with honorable mention, Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas Queen, Defender of the Faith…etc.

          The business is international uranium mining, nuclear power production schemes almost wholly subsidized at the expense of taxpayers, the DU weapons industry controlled and profits gained by the privileged few(some with sovereign immunity), and the corporate nuclear mafia which knows no international boundaries and has no moral or economic hesitation to use the homeless and destitute as its fodder.

          I have shown this documentary to several individuals and without coaching, the response can be characterized as conscious awakening.

          For all, check out Ebisu. He has much to offer.

        • J.

          Thanks for this. Very valuable indeed. I hadn't heard of Andrew Ebisu. He's done fine work.

    • name999 name999

      don't think Arnie Gundersen deserves to be on Kevin Blanch's s— list. But the rest of it works.

      • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

        Well he's hard core. If they're not firmly in his light, then they're no good. I used to believe it was better to use sugar to catch flies than vinegar but not any more. As I said earlier, Mr. Nice Guy died from toxic poisoning.

    • James Tekton James Tekton

      "Reality Video (caution strong language) Kevin Blanch"

      Gotta love this guy that is NOT afraid to speak his truth!


  • SadieDog

    "It is not twilight… But a new dawn, that is breaking over Japan…" – Shinzo Abe,

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Sadiedog…good article… Abe doesn't realize Japan's new dawn is the glowing reactors to the west….

    • SadieDog

      "I was greatly encouraged when Hillary Clinton told me that Japan’s GDP could be 16 per cent larger if women participated in the labour market at the same rate as men. Indeed, Japan’s female labour force is the economy’s most underused resource."
      – this is what we are to them…

      • SadieDog

        Umm, and by we I mean the 'royal' we. All of us. I'm a dude. Just to be clear. 😉

        • No Immediate Danger No Immediate Danger

          I despise the word "resource" almost as much as "environment." I hate the words because they're only useful to express a thought reinforcing a world view I hate. That is, separation of yourself from the whole, even one thing from another thing. I'm not saying you actually separate from the whole of nature — that's impossible — but that the world view says you're separate. This world view allows for the continuation of actions that are destroying us.

          I'm not suggesting banning any words, by the way, or even discouraging usage of the words. I just don't like them, and I said why. I happen to use these words myself 20-1000 times a week as a software engineer. And yes, I object to the world view that informs me to program computers as a means of earning money as a means of buying things… to what end? I'm not asking in the Fight Club sense — I'm asking: to what end?

          Means without ends are what we've got. Means to run reactors, for instance.

          – Why do you run reactors?
          – To create nuclear chain reactions (or enrich uranium, synthesize plutonium, boil water).
          – Why do you create nuclear chain reactions?
          – That's my job.
          – What's your job?
          – I'm a highly trained nuclear physicist.
          – Why did you get trained?
          – Because I'm passionate about learning how nature works.

          Yeah, right. Means for days with no ends in sight.

      • Daisy207

        When they socially engineered us into two income families – they converted public schools into day care centers. Now that was a good choice right?

    • name999 name999

      excellent. He has a Reaganesque quality.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      "Over the next two years, in designated areas, no vested interests will remain impervious."

      Kind of like a US "free speech zone" I guess.

      I bet Tepco is not in a "designated area." State secrets, anyone?

  • Ontological Ontological

    Been holding a steady average of 22 cpm dosimeter reading. Been days same ave. Nasty peaks of 34 inside, then down to 2. Almost like propagation. Never seen such rock bottom lows before, very strange.

    • 2ndTrumpet

      Just checked a room in my house after having the window cracked open all day and got a reading of 30 cpm. Needless to say, i have all of my air filters on high as if that will help.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      I had spikes at 33-38 inside yesterday was averaging 12-13- now never lower than 19, but averaging 24 now.

    • jonnyboy jonnyboy

      22 is pretty normal, not nasty!!

  • rogerthat

    “Well, nobody has died and no one has gotten sick from radiation, and no one ever will.''

    This is going to be a great disappointment to Japanese deputy prime minister and finance minister Taro Aso (short for asole) who believes the country's elderly should ''hurry up and die''. Aso is 73 and presumably is in no personal hurry.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      rogerthat….yes…like no one dies of gunshots wounds, they die of lead poisoning.

      • And no one died from the Titanic sinking, because the ship was already underwater when the first people starting drowning.

        Just coincidence that people died afterwards, nothing to do with the Titanic. They must have all decided to commit suicide..

        Zero casualties due to Titanic sinking.

        Uh huh, uh huh, let's all sing it together now..

        No one died, no one will die after the Titanic sunk.

        No one died, no one will die after the Fukushima plant melted down.

        • artika rama

          dr goodheart I heard those people from titanic all died because of seawater poisoning ,, but i might be wrong ,,,

          • They all died from an eating too much salt and drinking too much water…

            • unincredulous unincredulous

              How did that iceberg get to Fukushima?

              • Easy, they towed it there with the Ronald Reagan.

                The iceberg then accidentally got sucked into the cooling tubes and cracked the reactor.

                It was definitely NOT the earthquake, and the tsunami had no real effect on FUKU.

                It was really just an iceberg that clunked into one of the reactors, which caused the 'harmless' hydrogen explosions..

                This fairy tale makes about as much sense as the official TEPCO version of events.

                • unincredulous unincredulous

                  The sailors are just suing for temporary brain freeze. Just minor discomfort, from towing that ice around…

                • artika rama

                  so let me get this straight ,, you are saying ,, those rumors about deadly bananas ,, are they all false then ? was it the iceberg from the beginning ?
                  WHat about the salt ?
                  I never believed bananas could hurt you anyway ,, unlless ,,,,,ofcourse ,,, used in an improper way ,,, . anyway ,,,,
                  Earth quake may have no effect on fuku but is well known for its salt related effects ,, so there you go ,, salt from earthquake ,, water from the iceberg ,, and its titanic all over again ..
                  maan we never learn ..pfffff

                  i hope noone takes this seriously :)) its banana talk again , so that means its time for me to go 🙂

                • name999 name999

                  now TEPCO is building a wall out of it…an ICE WALL…clever folks.

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Home > News > DAFF ceases radionuclide testing of imported Japanese food
    Posted: Jan 24, 2014
    Topics: Business solutions > Rules & regulations
    DAFF ceases radionuclide testing of imported Japanese food

    The Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry (DAFF) has announced it will cease testing food imported from Japan for radioactive contamination.

    After Japan’s Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear facility sustained damage in March 2011, DAFF implemented a precautionary monitoring program, the Imported Food Inspection Scheme (IFIS).

    The scheme was based on assessment policy from Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ) and theAustralian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency (ARPANSA), which advised on the types of foods that should be subject to monitoring and testing for radionuclides, including which prefectures that contaminated food could be sourced from.

    Foods monitored for radionuclides include milk and milk products, rice and cereals, seafood, seaweed, fruit, vegetables, tea and dried mushrooms. From September 2012 to January 2014, the monitoring was targeted to fish, tea and dried mushrooms from the prefectures of Chiba, Fukushima, Ibaraki, Miyagi, Saitama, Tochigi, Tokyo and Yamagata.

    Results from more than 1400 tests under the IFIS program showed that all samples passed the radionuclide screening test, DAFF says.

    ARPANSA’s latest assessment reviewed the current targeted monitoring program and recognised the ongoing…

      • vital1 vital1

        Food safety levels deception, this is how it works. Raise the safety levels by 10 to 20 times, test then tell you it is safe.

        10th January 2014 – With radiation in food safety limits 10x weaker than Japan’s, North American food and agricultural imports from Japan escalate.


        The US has the weakest standards of those studied. In comparison, the EU has stricter standards, and Japan’s standards are the strictest. In comparison to Japan and the EU limit for imports from Japan, the US and Canadian limits are 12 and 10 times weaker, respectively.

        The conclusion, based on the data, appears to be yes. With food safety limits at least 10x weaker than Japan’s, North America could have become a target for Japan’s radioactive food. This has implications for consumers, who may not be fully aware of the fact that these varying standards may result in food deemed as too radioactive in Japan being exported to the US and Canada for human consumption.

        • vital1 vital1

          This situation is not just isolated to the USA. This New Zealand Ministry of Primary Industries New Zealand testing report (Link below), indicates that contaminated Japanese tea that tested above the Japanese 100 Bq/kg limit, was allowed to be sold to New Zealanders!

          Ministry of Primary Industries New Zealand, “Radionuclide testing in Imported Foods Survey,” 21st August 2013.

          Quote Page 9 “Summary”: (This was for imported Japanese tea.)

          “All results were well within Codex limits, with the highest results being 76.7Bq/kg for 137Cs and 57.4Bq/kg for 134Cs.
          Total Cesium content 134.1 Bq/Kg.”

          (The codex limit for these radionuclides is 1000Bq/kg, which applies to foods for a year following a nuclear incident.)

          Quote Page 10 “Conclusion”:

          “The tea samples tested indicates that there is no concerning levels of radionuclide contamination in food products exported from Japan to New Zealand.”

          • vital1 vital1

            My Opinion:

            Why would any country outside of Japan be using this criminal standard anyway? Japan isn’t even using using it!

            A 1000Bq/kg is way too high an international standard for Cesium, Nuclear Disaster or not. Recent research is suggesting 5 Bq/kg or less for children is more realistic, but preferably none! if I knew tea had a total 134 Bg/kg of detected Cesium in it , I certainly would not be using it. In my opinion it is criminal to allow anyone, particularly children or pregnant mothers, to consume tea at this level of contamination!

            If Cesium is present, it is very likely other isotopes are also!

            Full Report June 2013:


            Current advice to importers;


            Here is an excellent article on the effects of Cesium food contamination, based on lots of research.


            • There is no reason to test food for radiation when the 'safe' amount is so high, that even fish that are highly contaminated really close to the nuclear disaster would pass it.

              Why even bother to pretend?

              Just declare open season on humanity and start the genocide!

              Hormesis for everyone.

              Achtung, Achtung.. Vee have an announcement..Heil Hitler

              From this point forward, everyone will be a supporter of nuclear power and eat at up to 1,000 bq/kg of radiation in ALL their food and liquids, and LIKE IT.

              Heil, Heil, Heil, to the Sun God RAD.

          • unincredulous unincredulous

            "The codex limit for these radionuclides is 1000Bq/kg, which applies to foods for a year following a nuclear incident.)"

            So, err, uh, if you have a nuke accident every year, you can legally keep on selling it.

            Oops, damn, just had another accident, can haz buziness license renewed. doh.

        • Daisy207

          Its not just the imports. Food grown on the west coast is grown on fields that are inundated with rain outs and initial fallout from the explosions. The radioactivity is in the soil and the rain and is in the food. The west coast of the US could be far worse than the west coast of Japan (for now) as the winds and currents come this way. And Fukushima is not shut down – its releasing raidioacitve water (tritium along with all the other toxic metals) every day non-stop and will probably be for eternity. What happens when the phytoplankton can't make oxygen any more? The fish in the sea need the oxygen in the water as much as humans need it in the air.

      • Angela_R

        they are racing to sign the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement and then, I suspect, we will not know the country of origin.

        Likely, this will introduce the means by which Plausible Deniability can be invoked.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Not buying fish. Not buying anything from Australia. Not buying anything packaged or processed there. Nothing "made" there. My version of not testing the stuff.

        • Sol Man

          It sounds like people will soon have no reasonable assurances of the source of any of their food soon, if not already the case. Can't remember which politician said that more Japanese food imports is good (enough) for the U.S. people (regardless of the count)?

          The crimes against humanity stack up.

    • name999 name999

      there it is. The Big Lie.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Quite good…

  • Tedd Tedd

    Friday Nightshift Entertainment

    Its been a hard week here. You can feel the growing frustration and anger. In my case its anger. But its been that way for me long before Fukushima or the British Petroleum stunt. I wrote the human race off long ago as a waste of oxygen.

    They've got us just where they want us. Ranting on forums. You can here their laughter.

    Never cared for classical opera type music, but then there's the stunning Sarah Brightman.

    Lets try and relax for a while and regroup. Sarah could relax Godzilla.

    Sarah Brightman: One Night in Eden

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Tedd:…this one of hers fits to the moment somehow….
      Great link thanks.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        How did they get reactor #4 up on that platform? Lady Fuku as the IAEA wants you to see her.

        Who wants to raise allowable limits forever?

    • No Immediate Danger No Immediate Danger

      Just need to point out, Tedd, that you can't say you've written off the human race as a waste of oxygen, then revel in the performance of a human being. You're appreciating a wholly human sort of beauty; the human voice and language.

      Art, artifice, artifact: these are all human expressions, and I wish people would give them due credit before wishing for the annihilation of mankind.

  • Daisy207

    Stop chasing the Sr, CS, PU – too expensive to run and hard to find a lab that can do it- Take water samples for Tritium – I found a private lab that will run them for $75. they have to be collected in glass jars, no preservative. The lab will lower the pH to precipitate anything metalic out in the sample then distill it – then half way through the distillation – they take the sample and run it through a scintillation counter. If Tritium is significant – a beta source by the way – everything else is there too.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Well, if nuclear fallout is no longer to be worried about, I guess nuclear arms are no longer a deterrent. I guess we can just stop building nuclear arms. IF Iran gets a nuclear arsenal, so what? Who cares? A little radiation is good for you. Nothing to be worried about, right? I might just name my next pet Strontium. Sweet little mutt. I guess we'll have to paint pictures of the boogey man on the side of our nukes, if we want to scare anyone with them. OR maybe just a picture of a celebrity drinking and driving…

    • ftlt

      UNI: Excellent point there on deterrence.

      The Bush admin was chomping at the bit to use them in the Afghan early on. We developed bunker busting ones for use there then.

      Rumors say, they were used – Myth???

      This whole FUFU mess is falling in line with all of the rest of the abuses of the past 3.5 decades since globalists Reagan and Thatcher took state power. Being ignore it and count your money.

      Where we stop nobody knows.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Significant ‘discreet leaks’ recently. Had the flu

  • Radiation Safety Standards for Food: Comparing Chernobyl vs Fukushima; via A Green Road Blog

  • Nick

    I smell blood.

    I can't imagine what is going through millions of people's heads right now as they wake up to the Fukushima nightmare?

    You have a fabulous house near the ocean, but now you are afraid. Afraid like you never felt ever in your entire life.

    The silent migration begins.

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    The snow and radiation have had me nervous since the beginning. But this year there is so much salt being used. The melt and spray from vehicles concerns me not to mention all the run off. I can't find any info on this. I imagine it might be something like the buckyballs that whwrw mentioned with sea spray. Though the I think the salt they spread on the roads might be structurally different. It gives me nightmares. I wish I had the means to test this stuff because I sense it is very Bad.

    If anyone has any info it would bw deeply appreciated.

  • combomelt combomelt

    At the Dai-ichi
    Gamma ray haze blankets all
    California cooks

  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    In the West it has been quite a long time (about 70 years) since people had direct contact with large scale violence–WWII. So especially in America which had virtually no serious war events, we have drifted into a false sense of how things should be–prosperous and healthy. But that is not a sound historical position. Plague, war, famine, etc. are more generally the case. People from Eastern Europe for example have a sounder idea of how life goes.
    Thus, to find ourselves in the USA with a government not terribly interested in the little people is a bit hard to get used to. Democracy and all. But to conclude as we must that the gov here really does not care if a few million Californians end up with cancer. Or there are more miscarriages. More serious childhood ailments. Just consider the normal 35 vaccinations of childhood for example. That's about money not health.
    Hence, we are on our own. Academics have jobs to protect. There is no money in monitoring radiation for corporations. I suppose an enterprising person could start a non-profit that would monitor the whole West coast. Initially it would need to be largely volunteer with donations for equipment. Later on it could be more paid jobs. Then at some point either threats or bribes would enter the picture. History.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Capt. Nemo…you make many valid points…but how about the attack on the world trade center (probably a false flag)? Quickly it has been forgotten…because everyone was hypnotized into believing the "government" was on the case and going to protect everyone and so entered the age of the Safety Police….DHS, TSA etc. people willing to give up every right in order to "feel safe."

      And then it was time to watch Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian and Britney Spears.

      Everyone I know lives like the ostrich hiding their eyes and feeling like as long as their family is safe that is all they have to worry about. People do not care if their neighbor gets cancer as long as they don't get cancer. Humanity has become inhumane and the rule of the day is selfishness.

      The USA is sending drones to kill civilians and none of us complained, they have scattered DU in Iraq and Afghanistan and no one complains. Every citizen in this country has innocent blood on their hands because this happened on our watch, and we never said a word. History will reflect that fact.

      Fukushima is a tragedy on so many levels, but no one cared until it started effecting North America….

      When I discuss all these things with people I know they don't want to hear it….thanks for your thought provoking post.

  • califnative califnative (NY)

    MSN video by Annie Gaus downplaying the high radiation readings at Ocean Beach San Francisco – "Fukushima is Here, Not so Fast" calling it rumors and saying what's the big deal?
    We should tweet her with ENEnews link!

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      califnative….Thanks for the link….I wanted to scream watching that propaganda the talking head mentioned seal deaths in California….here is the chart to prove this has/is occurring in California:

      They quit posting statistics after May 13, 1013 because it was rising so quickly.

      Arnie plays both sides of the fence….hence the name "Fairewinds" we need to realize there are no sacred cows, people either say the WHOLE truth or they are lying.

      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

        I mentioned Arnie because his quotes have been used by MSM to downplay Fukushima. I like him and respect what he has done so far, but I think he needs to be more blatant in his disclosures because that is what most people need to wake up.

        • califnative califnative (NY)

          NBUSA – good links, this is so upsetting. I think Arnie is at least someone reputable, I didn't realize he downplays though.

          • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

            Califnative….Arnie is actually a good guy…I just wish he was more hard core as that's what it's going to take before people wake up…

            We need an expert who is willing to say "bend over and and kiss you *** goodbye because this radiation is going to kill you"…

            My frustration leaked out onto Arnie…much like the ongoing leaking from Fukushima pouring non-stop into the Pacific Ocean for over 1055 days….

            • guevara3712

              i wish he was a bit more hardcore too, but that is for personal reasons. i think we will not serve ourselves well having just hardliners on the case. in my opinion Arnie is very valuable for getting through the beginnings of understanding the issue. His persona reeks of reasonableness, kind of like a ladder, if you will, leading to more steps of truth. not everyone is gonna be ready for the cold hard truth right at once.

              • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

                guevara3712, agreed, we need all approaches…as I said above my frustration got out of control, sort of like the leaks at Fukushima Daiichi.

                • guevara3712

                  notice i said REEKS of reasonableness, lol. i keep telling everyone he will redeem himself from any shortcomings on the epidemiological front in keeping people aware of why they are getting sick.if that is not the case the crow population will be one of the first to go completely extinct as i will be forced to eat so many.

                  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

                    Lol….I realized when I read my post that I have become cynical of all experts, government agencies, companies, corps, and humankind in general. I just hadn't realized it until you called me out! 🙂

                    • unincredulous unincredulous

                      Well, we can only take so much (corrupted) communism, capitalism, socialism, etc. And in the end, the natural tendency is a perfection of cynicism. Cynicism — the new, dark, white meat.

            • That is why AGRP is here, to stake out the worst case scenarios.

              Then Arnie can hold the middle ground, while the nuclear industry holds ….

              no ground… because no one dies, no one ever dies with them.

              The Titanic sunk and no one died, according to them.

    • Sol Man

      When we want to be misinformed we can tune into Annie.

  • Critical thinkers have more fun, because they can poke at both the white/dark meat… cooked or uncooked and laugh while doing it..

    Most people only like their meat one way and you better not laugh while they are eating it.