Expert: Minor quakes now being detected by other salt caverns near giant Louisiana sinkhole (VIDEO)

Published: May 2nd, 2013 at 4:54 pm ET
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Title: Public Briefing 5/1/13 – Part 5
Source: Assumption Parish
Date: May 1, 2013

At 11:30 in

Gary Hecox, CB&I hydrogeologist: The seismic array has now been updated.

The initial seismic data, what we’re finding — the locations of all the micro-earthquakes have been recorded — as you can expect, most of the micro-earthquakes have been located around the Oxy 3 cavern and in the salt.

We do have some minor earthquakes out away from that in the vicinity of the other caverns.

Watch the full 14-part briefing here

Published: May 2nd, 2013 at 4:54 pm ET
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19 comments to Expert: Minor quakes now being detected by other salt caverns near giant Louisiana sinkhole (VIDEO)

  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    "We do have some minor earthquakes out away from that in the vicinity of the other caverns."

    And so the deterioration through lethally toxic erosion of Southern Louisiana continues. I'm sure Jindal is right on top of it.


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  • Lion76 Lion76

    while all these stored chemicals slowly leak out, the gameplan is to maintain the illusion of control until it becomes so self evident that those in charge will have to act all surprised at the obvious. business as usual, corporatism 101


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  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    I wonder about the strategic oil reserves. In my simple mind, storing liquids that deep where it was salt before is the same as fracking. Do we know for sure that the whole dang place wont crack up, oil drain into the ocean as aquifers and rivers wash the salt away? I would be looking at that nearby lake, and the 50 plus oil caverns to see if a interconnected super event isnt about underway. Just a thought


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  • In the middle of 3 eclipses….everythings going to be humming nicely until the solstice now.


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  • irhologram

    …"Going to review the laundry list of needs…created in the last 3 days(!) starting TOMMORROW(?!!) Many things we can request to start a state data base, Dept. of Natural Resources… And they haven't set up this laundry list until now? "In a swamp environment it's not an easy thing to do…" So citizens asked for a list of all monitoring so far…and the answer was we have been monitoring for years…a good base record available… And then they sited the flyovers require a year …& they're just now using reflectors to tell benchmark elevations…."We can provide you with information now, but I dont want to tell you its reliable" because its only been 277 days for flyovers..".to narrow the resolution down to an acceptable level." Then they relented and said they would supply the elevation of one citizen's property from data they've had since February and March?… The methane has been detected below 2 floor slabs…"We do have some minor EQs in other salt caverns" (which ones?) 3400 feet or in cap rock at 1000 ft. …"Methane gas is accululating against the clay and working its way through preferred pathways." It IS thermogenic gas that is displacing swamp gas…in some places, it's mixed…and then concluding that thought, he says "Unfortunately…" and the video cuts off. Mixing the two is worse? Remember the discussions we had about the source implications of areawide bubbling if not swamp gas, and the methane elephant in the room? It ain't…


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  • irhologram

    Cont. It ain't swamp gas. As logic dictated and i shared months ago…that.puts several "smart" money theories espoused here…to bed. It's thermogenic. It's throughout the area. Methane, officially now, is breaking through clay and working into several other caverns… (as well as elsewhere logic would find….and logically, too, as has been found at the sinkhole already, the methane may be accompanied by H2S, and so that deadly gas should also be expected to break through the clay.).


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  • 16Penny 16Penny

    Also Hecox states @ approximately 12:30 that micro EQ's are also happening in the caprock. That is a holy poo poo moment. If the caprock is fracturing then there will be an additional pathway for the aquifer to erode more salt.

    Props to Bruce from Texas Brine (@ approx. 8 mins.) for responding positively to Mr. Ramero's request for the elevation data. This was a stark contrast to the tone coming from Texas Brine in the past. Thank you Mr. Bruce.


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  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    DC are full of fools, look at the amount of water that has to yet come down the MISS River & it will only get worse!


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  • razzz razzz

    I said to start filling in the sink hole just to keep the fresh water away from the salt dome before it fills itself in with any available mass. If other caverns cave in then the sink hole could become wider than it is deep as it finds the cavern melted openings. Hell, it could undermined the cap rock first from underneath then cap rock could fall into a cavern void.


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  • pcjensen

    yeppers… langoliers… no place to "be" there


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  • irhologram

    Focusing on the sinkhole is like not seeing the forrest for the trees. The bigger picture (huge) is that methane/ H2S is busting out EVERYWHERE, other caverns, under house slabs, and throughout the swamps, displacing the very swamp gas…from at least a depth of 3400 feet, as admitted here. Now that this IS announced as thermogenic, and all those old ROX arguments: It's only the belching sinkhole that's a problem… Bubbles and gushing gas and spontaneous fires in the bayous are merely swamp gas… The brine saturated waters won't erode the sinkhole further…. Those discussions? Are OVER. Now. WHAT has brought this ignored elephant into the room? Because most surely, you must see undeniably now that there is one. WHAT IS THE SOURCE of the methane? How wide an area is the swamp gas displacement? What other monitoring is on their laundry list just compiled? How far a circumference will they monitor? Are they monitoring the aquifer involvement at distances? I want you to think about something here, too. Do you remember the mocking of those of us cheeky enough to believe our logic and senses, rather than industry-speak? The arrogant sneers and the self promoting? The starstruck cliques that formed like blogger thought police?


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    • 16Penny 16Penny

      irhologram,

      "The brine saturated waters won't erode the sinkhole further…. Those discussions? Are OVER."

      Yep, confirmed. In part 7 @ approx. 9:20
      "cavern is behaving like a piston"
      "brine is finding a path out … down or out the side"

      Take you perfect physics U tube model and put it away, it does not apply.

      irhologram:
      "WHAT IS THE SOURCE of the methane? How wide an area is the swamp gas displacement? What other monitoring is on their laundry list just compiled? How far a circumference will they monitor? Are they monitoring the aquifer involvement at distances?"

      Part 6 @4:50 paraphrasing:
      "cavern (remains of Oxy 3) is around 500 psi and we can't lower it. We attempted to bleed it off and it rebuilds"

      Part 9 TB says they are now mapping the MRAA more extensively to determine likely migration pathways for gas in the aquifer and locate potential gas pockets.

      Pt. 9 @ 7:15
      T.B. claims "no water contamination outside our property." Where are their teat sites located?

      As I explain in the following BC thread, the sunken zone will act like a funnel, forcing any gas coming up outside the penetration of the sinkhole to follow it's incline up to the perimeter of the 37.5 acre sinkhole. Water and soil tests should be done at least 500 feet radially outside of that "settlement" zone as they call it. That is where you will most likely find it and shallow soil tests are not cost prohibitive. They do not want to see it so choose not to test.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    New studies..indicate the dome is mushroom shape..there is no other place for the fractured caprock to go..but down the sinkhole.
    Looks like the whole salt layer in the area is disturbed…and at some depth is being affected by tidal flow.

    Man-o-man….phew..


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    PS.Above ..I did not express my true emotion.
    I think..it is important..perhaps because I am a woman..I express myself in a toned way..not to be mistaken for over-dramatic.

    Having said that.
    I'm worried.


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    • Sol Man

      There is little that is not worrying about various situations in the world today. Keep your family and friends close. Good luck to all!

      Opportunity lost. It could have been different.


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    • James Hollen

      Heart of the rose, what do you think is really going to be the final outcome? I have been told in so many words from a few select people that I have no idea what I am talking about. Well, I say that this situation will degrade to the point of surface water getting to these salt domes and everything above the salt dome will collapse. From what it looks like, these salt domes are connected. So far as it goes, "we ain't seen nothing yet" Wait til all of that stored gas escapes.


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    James Hollen..Hi..This is the time of day that ..I go to work.
    When I get back..I'll try to say something.
    At this time..I will say ..I haven't done all the research necessary..to say a whole lot.

    It is ongoing…


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  • irhologram

    16P "cavern (remains of Oxy 3) is around 500 psi and we can't lower it. We attempted to bleed it off and it rebuilds…" So, even trying their best to get the pressure lower than 500 psi (and we can assume the bleeding HAS already lowered the pressure to some degree?), they can't control the pressure. What about the building pressure and new pathways because of uncontrolled building pressure in this "chimney" (I'm not sure of the geological term…flue, maybe?) And the clay throughout the region only withstands pressures of 15 psi…umm, no wonder the entire bayou is bubbling and gushing gas.

    Ahhh, but they're now telling us they've had the forethought to ask the right question about new migration. Just now. 16P "….now mapping the MRAA more extensively to determine likely migration pathways for gas in the aquifer and locate potential gas pockets." Back a couple of months ago, when we were discussing imagery and Erin Brockwich and a Congressman having said they were told "they" already have this "picture" of underground gas pocket and oil repository mapping…it was said then that officially "they" were going to have that info in a few weeks. What became of that?


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