Experts: Areas along West Coast “may be… affected in a significant way” by Fukushima plume in coming months — Impact cannot be accurately predicted, currents to produce complex results — Radioactive materials can be ‘fairly concentrated’ even after crossing Pacific

Published: February 24th, 2014 at 2:57 pm ET
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Center for Marine and Environmental Radiation, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, Feb. 2014: Models of ocean currents and cesium transport predict that the plume will arrive along the northern sections of the North American Pacific Coast (Alaska and northern British Columbia) sometime in the spring of 2014 and will arrive along the Washington, Oregon, and California coastline over the coming one to two years. [...] We expect levels of cesium-134 to become detectable in coming months, but the behavior of coastal currents will likely produce complex results (changing levels over time, arrival in some areas but not others) that cannot be accurately predicted by models. That is why ongoing support for long-term monitoring is so critical [...]

Huffington Post LiveQ: Does the disaster have the potential to disrupt the West Coast ecosystem entirely or at least in part? Tim Mousseau, Professor in the Department of Biological Sciences at University of South Carolina: At this point it’s a huge unknown. [...] There’s suggestions that there may be pockets of high contamination that get carried relatively intact across the ocean, so these have the potential to lead to some contamination. […]

CKNW AM VancouverTim Mousseau, University of South Carolina: In terms of fish from the West Coast, what we need to be doing is monitoring the ebb and flow of these pockets of high contamination [...] Given what we’re seeing off the coast of Japan right now with some of these new models and these new studies showing pockets of fairly concentrated materials can be carried relatively intact — even all the way across the ocean — there may be little patches of areas that are affected in a significant way.

See also: Professor on PBS: The Fukushima plume is heading to West Coast in "a consolidated mass of water that’s moving in unison" -- Study: Nuclear waste "confined to a narrow band" crossing ocean -- "Very little dispersion in eastern Pacific" (MAP)

Published: February 24th, 2014 at 2:57 pm ET
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64 comments to Experts: Areas along West Coast “may be… affected in a significant way” by Fukushima plume in coming months — Impact cannot be accurately predicted, currents to produce complex results — Radioactive materials can be ‘fairly concentrated’ even after crossing Pacific

  • Homolumina Homolumina

    Why not making a public international call out to all scientist and students to develop technologies to deal with this disaster – I am sure there are already solutions in the drawers or even out there that would apply – I am developing such an aversion against feeling so victimized and doomed to helplessly watching. Humanity MUST be more than this. How could such an "international call" out to every scientific brain be organized ? I am for ex. actively working on a public spokesperson, a celebrity who reaches especially young people. How about mobilizing and utilizing the unbiased brains of our young people ? Any ideas ?


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    • FallOut FallOut

      The sprawling State of California is in quite the quandary and experiencing the sobering repercussions of back to back disasters and upheavals. Some of the problems are so severe that many residents are making plans to the flee the state and head for more stable ground. Tensions are increasing as drought settles over much of the northern region where most of the giant states agriculture resides. It is also becoming more difficult to govern the large state as different regions have vastly different needs. This has prompted venture capitalist Tim Draper to press harder for a ballot initiative that would see the Golden state split into six individual new states. Add to that the growing concerns of radiation poisoning in the Pacific Ocean from the ever leaking Fukushima nuclear reactors in Japan. California has reason to worry about the oceans level of nuclear waste just as much as the drought that is causing quiet but widespread panic on top of the growing momentum for a split state bid.

      Despite media attempts to down play the growing disaster, researchers have confirmed that radiation has continued to build up in the waters off the West Coast. They are racing against time to figure out the extinct of the damage and just how much radiation is getting into the ecosystem. As the government continues to turn a blind eye to the seriousness of the threat, the public’s distrust continues to grow and concerns are mounting in regards to the safety of Pacific Ocean seafood.


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    • Socrates

      Hey, kid…. Mother Nature does not work that way. Once a meltdown occurs, all the king's horses and all the King's men cannot put poor 'ole Humpty back together again. Even industrial strength Nuclear Corexit will not bring back the ecosystem. They tried that in the Gulf and made it a million times worse.

      The media is owned by the same folks who created this mess; but they can no longer hide the truth. By the way, Iran plans on 20 new reactors from Russia with love.

      The future looks dimmer each day.


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Iranians appear to be fools… :(


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      • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

        Grave marker in Solar system:
        Earth, Born: billions of years ago… Death: 21st century
        r.i.p.
        :-(


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      • Questionit

        There is more to be considered. It may have happened and I'm not too unaware the situations.
        Has the US (NATO) ever launched a major bomb and missile attack against a country with nuclear reactors?
        Has the US sponsored a trademark "rebel" overthrow (by outsiders) of a country with reactors?

        I do not count Ukraine, the overthrow was sponsored and assisted by the US but the participants are in fact homegrown. However, I think the US and EU is going to get real nervous when they see the future actions of the rebel leader (or the US plans to kill them off to make room for their puppet).

        Turkey is in their sights (perhaps) and I believe they are working on a reactor. Just another reason Turkey may be destabilized now.

        Pakistan would have been destabilized a few years ago if not for their reactor(s) and nukes.

        North Korea would have been gone long ago despite China.

        Did Chile have a reactor when it was messed with (or any other South American country)?

        I'm curious as I do not know the answer to some of that.

        If Iran had 20 nuclear plants right now do you think anyone would sponsor a radical religious/militant invasion of their country?

        Iraq was modern, clean, university's with women, women in police uniform. I was told Iraq did one of the first heart transplants. Libya simular, Syria had religions living together. And now? What should Iran choose? DU genocide? Better to go sampson on someone.


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      • humptydumpty humptydumpty

        I heard that bit about all the King's horses and men! And I feel it, and I also live in CA. This is the "new normal" that people keep referring to — the acceptance of ever higher radioactive contamination, more severe storms, a deteriorating environment, lower living standards and no job security, phony democracy, corporate fascism, and perpetual war. That is, until we can't take it any more, then we stop being broken and we start breaking down the system that is ruining our lives.


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    • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

      Homolumina:

      No way to explain this outside of being a major buzzkill.

      If there was a fix for a radiological mess like this, it would
      have been used by the Russians on their nuclear sub that messed
      up badly about 20 years ago.

      It would have been used at Chernobyl.

      If there was a fix, the nuclear industry and govt would have used
      the existence of such an option as a major PR talking point as to why it is they think nuclear is safe.

      THERE IS NO FIX.
      Or Santa Claus
      Or Easter Bunny.
      And the next one I want to offer will only start a flame war,
      so I will leave at that.

      What you are asking for is so fundamental at a physics and chemistry level that you may as well ask for "us" (I was major geek long before the word) to develop a Star Trek transporter or a means of time travel.
      The problem is that complex and that difficult.

      Not going to happen.
      At least not in our life time here.

      Your request might make sense for a fully contained partial melt down where there were no releases of radioactive elements.

      And even the latter would be probably the most challenging task any group of people have ever attempted within known human history.

      Getting in to space was much easier than putting the nuclear genie back in to the bottle.


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  • Nick

    "…there may be little patches of areas that are affected in a significant way."
    (T Mousseau)

    The patches will be significantly affected.

    Awake yet California? How about Oregon and Washington State.

    Time to get really pissed off folks, you have been had if you believed for one minute that Fukushima was a non-problem.

    It isn't just cesium. The AWOL reactor cores and fizzed out fuel pools of Fukushima have been flooding the biosphere 24/7 for almost 3 years.

    I bet somebody has the data to back up my assertion.


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  • magikald

    So………………..

    I thought the "experts" claimed all of this would be diluted in the Pacific? No worries!!! It will be diluted with no harm to anyone or anything!!

    Now they state otherwise. So what happens when TEPCO dumps all that water into the Pacific that they haven't already? I mean they did get the all clear from the IAEA a few weeks ago to go ahead and dump it all.

    Guess they can't hide the damage now.


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  • rakingmuck

    I could not be more awake. What is hard if finding a way out if you cannot afford to move. Then again – where to. With WIPP it shows nuclear is not safe and an accident can happen anytime, anywhere till all are shut down.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    I've been seeing less and less people outdoors over the past months.


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      A natural aversion to powered aluminum and barium.

      What's scary now is the planes are still flying the same paths, but nothing visible is coming out. They don't need to fly for practice. They're spraying something else we can't see.

      Oh, well. Next crisis, please.


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  • Nick

    Folks, tis a fool's errand to think that SHUTTING DOWN all nuclear activities planet wide will make life tolerable once again.

    No, the amount of toxins already in the biosphere has sealed our fate.

    That is a reality that more humans need to grasp.

    Our energies need to go in 2 directions.

    #1: Love now.

    #2: Cherish the past, the future is gone.

    We keep thinking that SOMEONE will INVENT a NEW technology that will magically sequester this shit from the biosphere.

    No, we are the enemy, and we are meeting ourselves.

    The best anyone can do is to admit to themselves the truth. Let other's discover it on their own. No one likes to hear gloom and doom anyway.


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  • weeman

    The future of the west coast of North America for the foreseeable future is wave after wave of radioactive isotopes of varying intensities washing up on your shores and depending on the concentration at point off realease will determine its value when it reaches the coastline.
    So if today's report is correct and the tank that leaked released 1/8 of strontium since 311, then in approximately three years we will see the results in water column on coastline.
    We want to see the authorities test every single radioactive isotope known to mankind, from now to eternity and cost is not a factor, make it so prime directive.
    Let the people know? We are not a commodity.


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  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    Woods Hole…Ken Buesseler…is majorly funded by the federal Government. Check the funding partners for Woods Hole Oceanographic institute.

    https://www.whoi.edu/main/partners-sponsors


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  • Station 106 Coverup, Plutonium Ejected from WIPP Nuclear Waste Storage Site
    WIPP Station 6 Coverup. At least TEPCO presented the data, even if lying about it.

    I was kind of hoping that the "scientists" <quotations, since when you serve your grant funding masters, you no longer serve science> would release the data Station 106, about 325 feet north of the Station B exhaust port, by Monday 2-24-14.

    That filter at Station 106 was collected on February 18, 2014. It is likely the most telling data that we know exists to show plume strength into the public airspace. It is now 6 days later.

    If they released the information, then we would have more data to assess the dangers.

    What kind of lies might they be trying to conjure up?
    "Since the nature of the test is a destructive test, the data on this filter was actually destroyed in the process."
    "The sample was contaminated with blown dirt and would not be read out."
    "The sample was far below any level of concern"

    Let's see what happens, I will query the WIPP director at this time.

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/02/station-106-coverup-plutonium-ejected.html


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  • bozzy54

    Commission votes to close fishing in American and Russian rivers, by; Dan Bacher, http://www.fish sniffer.com
    The emptying of northern california reservoirs. http://www.fish sniffer.com by; Dan Bacher
    Folsom @ 17% of capacity
    Shasta @36% of capacity
    Oroville @36% of capacity

    Water diverted to LA and hydraulic fracturing.
    Jerry brown peripheral tunnel project.
    No rainfall that will help.

    California debt clock @ 419,210,979,999 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Taxes at highest level in history.

    Radiation levels increasing on the west coast.

    Today's 2 minute test @ 0.48 McSv/h Soeks

    Gas and food prices at a all time high.

    Beef going up (imported) I may add

    Can't flush toilet after a burly shit

    Paycheck stolen from the mail box, child birthday card in trash with 2 5$ bills from grandma. ( return to Sender )

    Million of pounds of beef recalled (refer to burly shit) LOL

    50,000 toxic drum and ship at the best off shore fishing grounds( Leaking)

    Time to leave ???

    HELL YES

    Maybe I can take Jerry Browns 20 billion dollar bullet train to no where,

    Hum,,,,,,,,…… Sounds like a country song, getting guitar out

    Just need to get the dog involved some how?

    Thinking"……………………………………………dam-it…………………………………….

    Help


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  • Q: Does the disaster have the potential to disrupt the West Coast ecosystem entirely or at least in part?"
    - Huffington Post Live

    The REAL answer IMO…
    [paraphrased]
    A: "I'm not allowed to say, but the answer would be yes."
    (Some contamination is a YES.)
    — Tim Mousseau, Professor


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  • We Not They Finally

    The discussion cited in the article above is highly deceptive. Once the plankton (lowest on the food chain) is contaminated, it bio-accumulates and bio-magnifies up the food chain. No one has to breathe in anything directly from Japan or across thousands of miles of ocean transport.

    It's ALREADY too late to stop this, but getting a little truth about it finally would still be welcome.


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  • We Not They Finally

    We think that California might wake up one morning and suddenly it's all about radiation? Maybe not.

    Maybe we may need to be paying more attention to the California DROUGHT. Because it has apparently been VERY FREAKISHLY EXTREME. It has been suggested (though I have no proof) that MAYBE this was geo-engineered to keep radioactive rainfall out of California.

    Me, I'm not sure that TPTB would be that benevolent! But since California is "a breadbasket," then if enough crops fail, the populace would worry more about too little food than about too much radiation. Plus a certain number of people would self-evacuate from California, reducing any need for forcible efforts because "they're leaving anyway." Plus Monsanto could pick up failing farms on the cheap and have the resources to bring in irrigation. Then we could have Monsanto as our "savior." (Bad sci-fi, anyone?)

    I don't know that any of this is true! Just that something about this FEELS ALL WRONG. If anyone has better hard information, please post. Thanks.


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  • dosdos dosdos

    Church of the Holy Banana wants us to believe that the currents dilute uniformly as they progress. The further they go, they more they geometrically dilute.

    Again, point to one sample of water and declare that the whole ocean is that way. Again, inductive reasoning. When you have one sample, there is no variation in density. Nice song, but doesn't hold water.

    Ocean currents tend not to blend with the surrounding waters. Large segments move largely intact, as a body. Temperature and flow patterns make insulating walls that move along with the mass, blocking off exit paths, keeping the mass from mixing with the ocean at large.


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  • MadScientistJames

    Let's PLAY Connect the dots.

    DOT 1 – The so called "ELITE" are on record declaring 95% pop
    redux

    DOT 2 – 95% of world pop resides in Northern Hemi.

    DOT 3 – Northern Hemi appropriately located in Tropic O CANCER!

    Even the lamest sheep should be able to connect these DOTs!!

    From Linkin Park:

    "…I wanna run away, never say goodbye. I wanna know the truth, instead of wondering why. I wanna know the answers, no more lies…"

    Time to immigrate to T O Capricorn! Run away from T O Cancer.

    Time is runnin out! Get ur passport and run, run, run. Soon we will be declared contaminated and will not be allowed in S. Hemi.

    The New World Ellis Island – Anywhere, O Capricorn

    It worked for my Grandparents!


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  • UncleCrusty

    I'm sticking to "Catalyst" and "Waiting for the End" myself. With a side of "Nowhere to run" by Martha.


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