Experts on iodine in Europe: Something very unpleasant has happened — Either serious accident or reactor emergency required venting radioactive substances

Published: November 17th, 2011 at 11:40 am ET
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ANALYSIS: European radiation safety agencies detect traces of iodine-131 in air, source of leak unknown, Bellona, Nov. 17, 2011 (Emphasis Added):

[T]hose with knowledge of the field who have lent their views to Bellona were not so quick to discard the possibility that an event at a reactor, commercial or otherwise, could be the potential cause of contamination.

“If even the IAEA has acknowledged elevated levels of iodine-131 not only over the Czech Republic but over other European countries as well, then it means something very unpleasant, and uncommon has happened,” the renowned Russian environmentalist and a corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Professor Alexei Yablokov told Bellona in an interview. [...]

Other experts that Bellona has talked to agreed that either a serious accident has taken place or an emergency situation at a research or power-generating reactor that necessitated “venting” radioactive substances in the course of an “emergency discharge” into the atmosphere.

The Nuclear Industry’s Pharmaceutical Hypothesis

[W]hat would remain most likely is that the source of the radioactive iodine is either a commercial or research reactor. [...]

For iodine-131 to appear in measurable quantities, it has to result from a chain reaction of uranium fission – something that takes place in nuclear reactors run at commercial nuclear power plants or research organisations.

And despite suggestions made that the concentrations detected in the atmosphere above Europe could have come from medical sources, a health institution that routinely uses radioactive iodine for medical or pharmaceutical purposes would hardly have enough of the substance for the leak to spread as wide as was recorded in measurements taken in countries that are thousands of kilometres apart.

From Sweden to Austria

The very fact that radioactive iodine has been detected in the air above countries that lie as far apart as Sweden and Austria prompts one to suspect that the leak is of a rather substantial scope – meaning that the actual concentrations near the source, which is as yet to be established, would also be significantly higher and present a much graver health risk.

Where’s the Iodine-132?

[A] November 11 report by RIA Novosti (in Russian), which said that “iodine-131 is considered to be the most dangerous nuclide produced as a result of nuclear fission. This isotope triggers mutations and destruction of cells that it penetrates, as well as of surrounding tissues, to a depth of several millimetres.”

See also from today: Hungary lab emitted iodine-131 -- But lab director says "It cannot be the same as what was found covering Europe"

Published: November 17th, 2011 at 11:40 am ET
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67 comments to Experts on iodine in Europe: Something very unpleasant has happened — Either serious accident or reactor emergency required venting radioactive substances

  • bmurr bmurr

    does it sound crazy to think that this is happening intentionally ? Where the hell is the media on these events?


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  • Rosie

    That’s my constant cry too as everyone on here knows!!!! Where are the whistle blowers when you want them?


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  • I’m glad nuclear energy is so safe and only the trustworthy operate them, Thank you IAEA !

    “‘eyes’s roll’”


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  • ocifferdave

    OT, wife just found this 1 hour docu-drama about chernobyl that was posted Nov 14.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqDYC681I-M&feature=player_embedded#!

    She then posted what our children and grandchildren in Japan and on the West Coast (and Europe even?) will look like more and more:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXMUTaSortI&feature=related


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  • ocifferdave

    I post our first snowfall and mention in the video I’m keeping my kids inside out of this Fukushima Snow. I suddenly have people making “it’s all okay, no worries, man” comments. Wild.

    http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=YT24cQfECFM&email=comment_received


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    • ocifferdave

      Lovely response:

      joelb79 has replied to your comment on Fukushima Snow in Goldendale:

      @ocifferdave This is not your field of expertise Dave. I can tell. You are living proof of the Dunnin-Krueger effect. “Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge”. Bionerd23 is right on the money and an expert in this field of radiation. She is giving you sound information. Many of us who know a thing or two about radon washout are not afraid to go out in the rain and unable to be scared by people potrblog, eviroreporter, ect. Please read about radon washout.


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      • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

        Mornin Dave….
        I read this guys comment on your youtube post. I think this particular sentence applies more to him than you…..“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge”.
        It is hard to stay informed when there is a concerted effort to obfuscate, but the folks on enenews have a better handle on Fuku stuff than EPA, IAEA, NRC, etc.
        Stay concerned….it is what it is.


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      • Bobby1

        Paid shills are all over the internet now, spewing their crud.


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      • Just more “whistlin’ past the graveyard” from the pro-nuke radiation risk denial goons. Remember: smile and the nasty nuclides cannot harm you. Think happy thoughts and you can fly Peter-Plutonium! Fly?
        Yes! FLY!! And resist cancer, immune-suppression pneumonia and massive degradation of the human genome by radiation damage! Think happy thoughts… see no evil, hear no evil… and NEVER speak any evil about Father Nukey… Good Monkey…


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      • ocifferdave

        @all of you guys, thanks for the support. I updated my video description bit by bit…and with your help from yesterday and today it is very solid with good links for more info for those that are willing to find out more and become a little uncomfortable.


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      • Anthony Anthony

        Yeah Dave this guy should tell it to the mutated tomatoes I harvested this fall! Rock on, chin up and all that…


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    • For some reason I can’t post comments to yt. If you want to drop the
      http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/nnn.html link on your page I would appreciat it. My response to the mo-rons posting at your page is look at the mountain of evidence gathering and STOP DENYING this world wide nuke tragedy is happening! Grrrr


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      • YouTube doesn’t let you place links in the comment areas, for some odd reason.

        I think if you disguise the link somehow it works, e.g.

        realitycheck dot no dash ip dot info slash nnn dot html


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    • First snow in Tacoma WA. (yesterday).

      I am with you on this one dave.
      Avoid, protect, and prepare.

      I am also with bobby1
      Too many paid online bloggers indeed.


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    • Good work ocifferdave. Some great comments and replies to anti-protons and bionerd23 too. You held your ground well. :)

      Those folks will come around soon enough. I have no doubt. They have the equipment, they have the brains, so it’s just a matter of time.

      joelb79 is in denial. “..not afraid to go out in the rain and unable to be scared by people potrblog, eviroreporter, ect…” – This person is obviously not listening.


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    • NoPrevarication NoPrevarication

      @occiferdave

      Do you have the feeling that you would get when yelling to someone that they are about to go over an enormous waterfall and they yell back “it’s o.k. man, I’m fine.” It’s the strangest feeling that people are not interested in the truth about their own, or their children’s level of risk.


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  • IAEA just announced that it came from “the Institute of Isotopes Ltd., Budapest” and that “There is no health concern to the population.” Right… :\
    I live in Europe! Last weekend I was talking to a family member and he was in favor of nuclear energy. I tried to explain how seriously dangerous it is but he just wont understand… and most people I know just don’t care about the subject at all… We’re going to destroy ourselves and this planet from being so passive and believing everything we’re told :( This makes me so frustrated! >_<


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  • ion jean ion jean

    Let’s face it…they don’t intend to be transparent With any of this. WhAt about strontiums…U know they’re monitoring they’re just not telling. The older folks will freak out and warn the younger Sheeple.

    Now, according to Chris Busby some scientists are startiNg to believe this to be intentional!


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  • ion jean ion jean

    What a convenient way to shrink the population

    Someone needs to start watchdogging WHat the elites are eating, not eating or taking to tHink they won’t be damaged LiKe so Many Others!


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  • lam335 lam335

    “The brief statement leaves much room for speculation. It makes no mention of specific iodine-131 concentrations – information that would be necessary to try to establish the source of origin or the implied risks.”

    No doubt the IAEA has this info, but are not releasing it because they know exactly which country it will point to. They have chosen to protect that nuke plant operator instead of international public health.


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  • Mauibrad Mauibrad

    WHAT HAPPENED IS IN FUKU-SHIMA, NOT EUROPE!!!!


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  • Lacsap Lacsap

    So now they name/call a nuclear power station a power-generating reactor.. to exclude the thought of nuclear (disaster).


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  • Lacsap Lacsap

    IAEA could probably request the log files from the nuke plants in Europa (maybe even they are hooked up to a central system) and check for abnormalities and such in the their operation.


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    • dosdos dosdos

      Request is all that they could do. The IAEA has no authority to demand anything nor financial reward. They’re just lip service and soft shoulder to cry on for the industry.


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      • Lacsap Lacsap

        They can do more, they have the right to go inspect.

        Het bureau (IAEA) heeft het recht om inspecties te doen bij nucleaire installaties van de lidstaten. Sommige landen, zoals Iran en Noord-Korea, verzetten zich daartegen.
        Tranlated: The agency (IAEA) has the right to make inspections at nuclear facilities in the States. Some countries, like Iran and North Korea, resist this.
        http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationaal_Atoomenergieagentschap

        The IAEA exists to pursue the “safe, secure and peaceful uses of nuclear sciences and technology” (Pillars 2005). The IAEA executes this mission with three main functions: the inspection of existing nuclear facilities to ensure their peaceful use, providing information and developing standards to ensure the safety and security of nuclear facilities, and as a hub for the various fields of science involved in the peaceful applications of nuclear technology.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Energy_Agency


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  • sueec

    Potrblog postulates that the iodine-131 is indeed an unusual event. A fission that has occurred because of major solar activity in oct around 28 th and that it is fallout from this fissioning in the upper atmosphere .
    He says that NASA admitted that it might be such and then santised the post.
    He predicted that this could happen in April……cleaning the upper atmosphere of radiation; bad for human gene pool but maybe good for the earth longer term. ( At the end he mentions that a nuclear power station might be responsible but that would not be good news either).


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  • Lee Binder

    The press release http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/2011/prn201127.html titles “Source of Iodine-131 in Europe Identified”, however in the text itself they relativize “most probably”! How scientific is that! Either/Or! What they created is an oxymoron – dry water, cold sun .. And these are the morons we have to rely upon (officially, to a certain extend) ..

    This release is to gain time … I can already see a 2nd press release in a couple of days or weeks: “Another possible source could be the power generating station blabla at blabla”. That release then won’t be considered as serious as the current one, because it has been (purposely) diluted .. what a bunch of fricken assholes .. it should be possible to file a police report and have someone at the IAEA dragged to court and put behind bars for some weeks just for a misleadingly phrased public statement like this …but no, we’re so proud of living in a “FREE” world, which means that assholes are FREE to get away with pretty much anything ….


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  • jimbojamesiv

    Someone should tell the nuclear experts in Europe that there’s this situation going on in Fukushima, and point it out to them on the map.

    This is ridiculous if you think you’re telling me they don’t know where the radiation is coming from, as I believe the laws of physics still exist to enable them to figure out exactly where it’s coming from.


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    • Anthony Anthony

      Maybe this is how *they* are going to tell the world about the seriousness of Japan.

      The whole world.

      I could see it.

      *They* have mentioned Fukushima more times in the last week than the whole nine months just defending themselves repeatedly noting it is definitely NOT Fukushima.

      Everyone Fuku-oblivious in Europe was informed this week that the pesky Japanese problem isn’t what’s happening here in Europe.

      Many would admit they didn’t even know there was that *pesky nuclear problem* in Japan until this European contamination was reported.


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  • strAtum5

    Something looks fishy to me in IAEA report:

    “If any member of the public were to breathe iodine for a whole year at the levels measured in European countries, then they would receive a dose in the range of 0.01 microsieverts for the year.”

    A very rudimentary maths would say that the person in the above scenario would breath the equivalent of 0.01 uSv / 365 = 27.3 pico Sv a day. That would point, I guess, to a tinny low concentration of I-131 in the air. Can somebody calculate what that concentration might be ?

    My idea is that, should we believe IAEA figures, we would end up to a concentration that is so low that humans could not even detect it.

    And from September 8 to November 16, 2011 ??? That’s 2 months !! How on Earth did it go on “undetected” for so long ? Or was it truly “undetected” ?!


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    • Lacsap Lacsap

      –And from September 8 to November 16, 2011 ??? That’s 2 months !! How on Earth did it go on “undetected” for so long ? Or was it truly “undetected” ?! –

      1. The people from IAEA where on a sooo earned vacation after the
      hard work on watching over Fukushima radiation..

      2. They have no idea what they are doing (homer simpson)

      3. Data is delayed from Earth to Mars.

      4. Depopulation by invisible death ray’s setup by the ‘elite’.

      5. Secretary/assistant was sick so no report could be typed.

      6. They went to inspect a nuke plant and where killed on spot.

      7. Personal and their computers had radiated worms and where in
      decontamination..


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  • Bleifrei Bleifrei

    I must say it again
    In recent years… rising to the present day.
    The conservative-media doctrine suggests more and more afraid of dirty bomb with active radioactive scrap.. They stoked the fear, proceed according to beware of terrorists
    (Some properties they own and probably formed from them)
    gave more and more money for security and surveillance from.
    There is nothing more dangerous they said, the smallest quantities bring thousands dead….we need a Strong Law! And protect our tax will spend up
    . And now all types of radiators + Active metals, dispersed in Jp and beyond (oh lovely Pacific, what they do to you to)
    And now the same people remain silent or say the opposite today..
    How many politico freaks in Jp+ other around, tell us at the past
    it is not dangerous, a little radiation and scrap. is harmless … so there can be no problem with the garbage…
    people like this are the real devil
    they burn the live out, one this way or this way , mentally
    and/or physically.
    they are the true poisonous of the earth


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  • DannieJ DannieJ

    Maybe Chernobyl did something …


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    • Anthony Anthony

      Maybe multiple *simultaneous* high levels are the result of what happens when an uncontrolled corium (Chernobyl) eats its way underground or shall I say, in-der-groung…..

      Maybe Chernobyl is fully free and reacts in unknown ways to man when it hits groundwater?

      Maybe it has some type of criticality and spreads in ways, over a generous 25 years and one day emits enough radiation – which shows up all the places it has been to in 25 years.

      What if?


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  • Bleifrei Bleifrei

    the closer the source, the greater the values ​​…
    who has data they can also read
    who asked not to respond freely ……..


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  • Bobby1

    Without details about where and when the I-131 was detected, and the amounts of it, along with details of other isotopes, blaming the radiopharma company should be considered as self-serving propaganda on the part of the IAEA gangsters.


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  • dosdos dosdos

    And the nuclear industry shall inherit the Earth…..


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  • yogda yogda

    joelb79 is most likely a shill suffering from the Petkau effect.


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  • ExposeEvil OriginalSinRising

    This power compelling us – a magic spell. Vision without action, a day dream; Action without vision, what a horrible nightmare!

    - Find your true mind cherishing timeless values with compassionate virtue; darkness shall hide no more in our hearts when we all become vessels of light and truth acting upon divine intention.


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