“Extraordinarily high levels” of radioactivity detected in household dust — 100 km from Fukushima Daiichi we’re finding tens of thousands of Bq/kg in vacuum bags (VIDEO)

Published: June 29th, 2012 at 1:47 am ET
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Interview with Arnie Gundersen
EcoReview
June 26, 2012

At 7:40 in

Arnie Gundersen, Fairewinds Associates: The last thing is is the contamination throughout Japan.

On the ground we’re finding house contamination in the form of household dust at extraordinarily high levels.

People are sending us their vacuum cleaner bags from Fukushima Prefecture, as far as 100 km or 60 miles away, we’re finding tens of thousand of disintegrations per second in a kilogram vacuum bag.

Published: June 29th, 2012 at 1:47 am ET
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31 comments to “Extraordinarily high levels” of radioactivity detected in household dust — 100 km from Fukushima Daiichi we’re finding tens of thousands of Bq/kg in vacuum bags (VIDEO)

  • Max1 Max1

    David Blume has a great middle step to 'Greener' technologies for countries that are stuck in the mode of direct dependancy to energy sources that emit toxic by-products. I just caution, as I wish the world would just pay attention, but mom earth can't take much more. Be it carbon or nuclear, mom can't take much more.

    What people need to truly understand is that to achieve this 'Green' solution, people need to be demanding 'Green' solutions, NOW! People need to be striving toward non-toxic emitting energy sources and improving THEM! But instead, we're saddled with politicians and 'Deciders' that keep making bad choices.

    Wind… Name the toxic byproduct?
    Solar… Name the toxic byproduct?
    Tidal… Name the toxic byproduct?
    Geo-thermal… yea, you get the question.

    /rant.

    Why are our lives (people's of the world) and our health held in balance of someone else's profit/loss spread sheet?

    • Wind, solar, and tidal do not add to the thermal content of the Earth. Geothermal is thermally polluting by adding heat content that would not be here. However, compared to NPPs, it is very minor indeed.

      • Max1 Max1

        Yes.
        Keep in mind that geo-thermal is a natural action of mom's digestive system, so to speak…
        … Nothing wrong in capturing the potential energy from her farts, is there? And then maybe in that process, we can filter it, too?

        LOL, but you get the idea. :wink

        • Max1 Max1

          Not to stray too far off topic, but here's an example of good technology that needs a boost.
          <em>EoleWater</em>
          http://www.eolewater.com/gb/our-products/communities-project.html
          video
          http://youtu.be/zhe4jDWfFAY

          • Chelsea_

            Last one to add to your list. I like this idea as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_power

          • fredlvie

            another one…can't remember if it was danish,swedish,or norway…
            they built large chambers on the coast,that reach below watersurface.so every wave that's coming on rises the air-pressure within the chamber and then it lowers again….above there is a building with a special air-turbine within,that is turning the same way wether the air goes in or out of it.so the air from the waves drive the turbine,and it produces electricity.nearly eternally.THAT's it,folks.1 turbine produces enough electricity für a little village…

            • weeman

              It is in Scotland, they have invested heavily in tidal power and are perhaps the leaders at this time in tidal power.

              • fredlvie

                NOT tidal.its the hub of the WAVES that roll to the shore und leave it.so the air in these huge concrete-chambers is compressed upwards and lead through the turbine.the leaving wave sucks the air back and so on…

      • Toadmac

        This one could be a good start?
        Electricity generated from water: Major breakthrough in clean Free Energy confirmed.
        http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/05/30/electricity-generated-from-water-major-breakthrough-in-clean-free-energy-confirmed/
        “BlackLight’s continuously operating, power-producing system converts ubiquitous H2O (water) vapor directly into electricity, oxygen, and a new, more stable form of Hydrogen called Hydrino, which releases 200 times more energy than directly burning hydrogen,”

        • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

          Hi Toadmac & all, interesting comments! Would you mind re-posting them in the "Alternative energy" forum – they might get lost here, I'm afraid!! And the AE forum certainly need some more meat on its bones 🙂

          *peace

        • dunno

          It's corporate pseudoscience, BlackLigh have not produced any power plant during 5 years and also don't give evidence that it works. It's hoax.

    • mikael

      Wind mills are completly usless in large scale and have zero relyibility, and even wurse in withertime, the wind is gone when the temp crawls under -20 a.s.o.
      All the existing sites are a failure, come up with some credibility regarding windmills not, the are simply not efficient anouf.
      And besides are hughly effective meatshoppers and THATS a fact.

      Solar pannels er in the sme category as windmills, usfull in small scale, as cabinlight a.s.o.

      Wawe teck is dead already so its out, somosis is in the same categry as wawe generatores are, there are simply not space anouf to install them all.

      Stopp fooling around and be sober regarding powers, not serve drivel. There are alternatives, its to stop the lies. Its the powerconsumpiton today that can be dealt with, there are simple things like start to figure out where is the waste. Why is everywhere lights on, 24/7, why. In a ordinary state, the commonhousing usess aprox, 1/4 of total power and where goes the rest. The Nukl ind. survives on the armsrace, and its leathal byprod. is boiling water, its insanity displayed.
      They have made them selfs usfull, by simpl Lies and forgerys of sience, aka The Global Warming hype. Where the Nukl made the move under the hide of CO2 scaremongerings, also withoput any reliability, at all.

      Wake up, the AGW is dead, it never was, and never will be.

      Get you figures strait, and then we talk.

      • mikael

        [REMOVED. Global warming debate… too far off topic.]

      • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

        mikael:
        Not sure of where you are geographically.

        Here in the US there are tons of residential PV systems that
        are tied directly in to the grid….hence the industry term "grid inter-tie". And they are built with off the shelf components.

        So if these PV systems are only useful for "cabin light", then how is it that my personal off grid system will power my Skil saw, my table saw, my hack saw, my cement mixer?????
        And I don't have a system that cost 10s of thousands of dollars either. Far from it!

        And how is it that my system would easily power a modern high efficiency refrigerator?? (I just haven't bought the frig yet).

        And all of that was before PV prices dropped so dramatically in the last few years.

        It is easy to add up the kWh from them and see a ROR that makes sense even from a conventional business model.

        PVs lend themselves to being distributed sources within a grid based system in a way that coal and NPP and hydro could never do.
        EVER!

        So if solar doesn't work, please educate me on it.

      • richard richard

        @mikael – i can't agree with you regarding alternative power. but i do agree with you on your points about efficiency/waste and the nuclear trojan horse of global warming 'solutions'.

        far to much energy is thrown away. if we can cut 30%, we can take away an excuse for nukes.

        whether global warming is occuring or not, the nuke industry is playing the 'low emissions' card to keep its foot in the door of public awareness as being 'green'. (we all understand that 'low emissions' is false, right?).

        so thanks for those reminders mikael.

        do check wind power in australia, it seems to work. different technology will be required depending on regional environmental factors. horses for courses, as they say.

        (sorry for continuing off-topic, but he started it 😉 ).

      • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

        Ten Largest Wind Turbine Manufacturers; Largest Wind Turbines, Wind Stats; via A Green Road Blog
        http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/ten-largest-wind-turbine-manufacturers.html

        Sustainable, Green, Alternative Energy Products And Experiments; via A Green Road Blog
        http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/sustainable-green-and-alternative.html

  • mungo mungo

    11690.5μSv/h in fukushima, NOW…
    http://new.atmc.jp/pref.cgi?p=07

  • mungo mungo

    2571.3 % above average

  • or-well

    An important point from mikael –
    "…powerconsumpiton today that can be dealt with…"
    Yes, an important part of the solution -using less in the first place.
    Conserve. Reduce. It's a difficult sell to the mainstream.
    Whatever alternative suggested, there's little mainstream talk of just using less.
    Part of the promoted mindset-myth is "We can have all we want!"
    We can't.
    That's OK, because we don't NEED all we WANT.

    I better get on-topic.
    I do wonder if another nuclear plant – or plants – are spewing somewhere in Japan, and that's been completely buried.
    Are they going to pull that out of the hat?
    As in "OH look, it was that ONE-TIME release from such-and-such that's responsible for these findings. Problem fixed now."
    That would downplay Fukushimas' impact, hide its' enormity.
    OR, would they use that to draw attention away from Fuku if the event conditions there worsen.
    How much contamination resulted from those early plumes and how much from ongoing releases?
    How much from debris incineration?
    How much being relocated from people and vehicles moving around?
    (Shakes head.)
    If there's hotspots so many places and contamination so dispersed, then how can anyone give credibility to the absurd geographic fine-tuning of where is "safe" in Fukus immediate proximity?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Household dust with high levels of radiation hundreds of kilometers from Fuku..is basically a given.
    On this thread we have some great reponses to a post by mikael..but mikael's post has been removed.
    The thread reads poorly.

  • Sickputer

    Easy to get offtopic… I can be just as guilty at times. Too much IM and Twitter habits to overcome for manh if us.

    But I find the vacuum dust another evidentiary piece of information confirming the situation in Japan is spiraling down a slippery road straight to hell.

    What do you think Daniel K? You said it Is safe in Fukushima prefecture? You may not be so safe in your neighboring prefecture. Checked your household dust lately? Arnie doesn't lie about his tests.

  • or-well

    Radioactive dust –
    is that what we're to be,
    in the fullness of Time,
    for Eternity?
    Or do we sweep out the dust
    of ideologies rusting
    and of the Elite
    no longer be trusting?
    Have we seen long enough
    them us to strife thrusting?
    Have we seen enough
    of the Life-web their busting?
    Have we heard enough
    of their lies and their hustling?
    Are we tired of being treated
    like cattle they're rustling?
    Do we not see the damage
    of their selfish lusting?
    Like a foul excrescence
    they lay on us still,
    a thin scum encrusting
    a placid Will,
    beneath which flow currents
    of Goodness and Rage –
    We balance these forces
    and end Nuclears' Age.

  • [REMOVED. DUPLICATE POST. OFF-TOPIC.]

  • Hepa Filter LA USA tested 'hot' too.

    June 2012 tested at 6.68 x background.

    Hepa Filters tend to concentrate this 'goo'.
    However, so do your LUNGS.

    Article:
    http://www.enviroreporter.com/2012/04/la-air-even-hotter-with-radiation/

    Video:
    http://www.enviroreporter.com/2012/03/highest-radiation-in-l-a-air-yet/

    These numbers are ABOVE what the California Highway Patrol would consider a HAZARDOUS situation.

    It's ongoing, it's upon us.